I want to know what you guys think a lot Soft Swap couples.... We are Soft Swap couple and we get some people telling us that is not swinging or don
We would absolutely soft swap. We are very oral as a couple, and oral is fine with us! 
I have to admit we were once one of those couples that never entertained the thought of "soft swap". We had always full swapped and been happy with it. UNTIL...we met a couple who were in town over nite and only SS. We had an AMAZING nite and one of the hottest experiences to date. So it DEFINATELY changed my outlook.
Dont let anyone pressure you into something you arent ready to do. Afterall...THEY may be the ones who dont know what they are missing!!
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Dont let anyone pressure you into something you arent ready to do. Afterall...THEY may be the ones who dont know what they are missing!!
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Don't let them get to you. Do what you two like and are comfortable with. While we have enjoyed full swaps, soft swap sometimes seems more sensual
Some time back there was a pretty long thread on what is considered swinging. My point of view, It's what you feel comfortable with. Everyone is different and has their own limits or something different that they're looking for. It's supposed to be fun, not something you're pushed into. Whether you just like to watch, have same room sex, full swap, girl girl, FFM, FFMM, FFFFFM, or even MMMMMF, lol, or anything else, it's what you want it to be. Have fun!
Soft swap is great... very oral here and its cool to do it with others! *smile*
Thanks for the reply hear is another question???!!! k we get couples that bug the hell out of us until we stop talking to them or block them because we wont full swap . why do feel the need to pressure SS couples to FS??
good question.. we've no idea why people try to turn people into something their not...
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Anyone who tells you that soft swap is not swinging, is not a swinger. They are trying to oppress you with their idea of sex and relations with others. That in itself goes defies the definition of swinger. So just say fuck those fuckin fuckers. They are not worth your time. Vaginal intercourse with a stranger, does not make a swinger. If that were true, then all prostitutes are swingers.
If it were me, I would say, "I'll full swap if I can take a morning shit in your fuckin mouth." Be sure to tell them they're not true swingers unless they fully open up to you. Lay on the pressure. See how they fucking like it. I hate fuckin' people that use snakey tactics and pressure.
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Anyone who tells you that soft swap is not swinging, is not a swinger. They are trying to oppress you with their idea of sex and relations with others. That in itself goes defies the definition of swinger. So just say fuck those fuckin fuckers. They are not worth your time. Vaginal intercourse with a stranger, does not make a swinger. If that were true, then all prostitutes are swingers.
If it were me, I would say, "I'll full swap if I can take a morning shit in your fuckin mouth." Be sure to tell them they're not true swingers unless they fully open up to you. Lay on the pressure. See how they fucking like it. I hate fuckin' people that use snakey tactics and pressure.
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Always be true to who you are. People who pressure you are not your friends, right?
If they want something they have the freedom to ask, and you have the right to answer however you want.
If they want something they have the freedom to ask, and you have the right to answer however you want.
My humble two cents worth....ANY sexually driven activity outside of your relationship or marriage is "swinging", from casual necking thru "hold on cause we wont be back this way soon" fucking. Everyone and every couple have their comfort zones, as with everything in their lives. Used car salesmen, realestate agents, anyone who has a need to "perform" will try to get you to go beyond your comfort zone....IF its not in your zone, the answer is simple and do as others have, IGNORE or BLOCK, or simply walk away.....I have experienced others being banned from groups for the same behaviour, and you have to admit, when you can offend an entire group, you really dont understand how the game is played....all this is for fun and fulfillment, not hate and fighting.
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Then again, you'll never please everyone, so you gotta please yourself. I for one am not here to ensure group cohesion, walk on egg shells or pamper the thin skinned whiners of the swinging community. I am here to find people we (TR) click with and fellow boisterous, opinionated people like me. I for one, like weeding out all those people that make it their life's ambition to be offended and judge others. I say if they don't like me, they can fuck off, because I have places to go and people to meet. Know what I mean? Man I wish these forums were more diversified.
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Then again, you'll never please everyone, so you gotta please yourself. I for one am not here to ensure group cohesion, walk on egg shells or pamper the thin skinned whiners of the swinging community. I am here to find people we (TR) click with and fellow boisterous, opinionated people like me. I for one, like weeding out all those people that make it their life's ambition to be offended and judge others. I say if they don't like me, they can fuck off, because I have places to go and people to meet. Know what I mean? Man I wish these forums were more diversified.
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TR...Can't agree with you more on this issue...Both posts...
And, YES, SS is swinging...Everyone does what they like...
And, YES, SS is swinging...Everyone does what they like...
"Then again, you'll never please everyone, so you gotta please yourself. I for one am not here to ensure group cohesion, walk on egg shells or pamper the thin skinned whiners of the swinging community. I am here to find people we (TR) click with and fellow boisterous, opinionated people like me. I for one, like weeding out all those people that make it their life's ambition to be offended and judge others. I say if they don't like me, they can fuck off, because I have places to go and people to meet. Know what I mean? Man I wish these forums were more diversified.
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Wow, I could not have said it any better than that! Meet a fellow boisterous, opinionated couple from the Tampa area!
Ron & Chrissy
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Wow, I could not have said it any better than that! Meet a fellow boisterous, opinionated couple from the Tampa area!
Ron & Chrissy
Have you all already come to agreement on what "soft swap" means?
When we started, "Soft swap" meant *NO* physical contact across couples: each couple did their own thing and *watched* the others.
Some take it to mean "touching, but no genital contact".
Some take it to mean "Oral, no penetration".
I suppose this goes along with the other "labels" discussion: Straight, bi, gay. What I mean is that perhaps labels are never really useful since there is such a continuum of activities and preferences. Just be clear on what your limits and desires are - and stick to them.
When we started, "Soft swap" meant *NO* physical contact across couples: each couple did their own thing and *watched* the others.
Some take it to mean "touching, but no genital contact".
Some take it to mean "Oral, no penetration".
I suppose this goes along with the other "labels" discussion: Straight, bi, gay. What I mean is that perhaps labels are never really useful since there is such a continuum of activities and preferences. Just be clear on what your limits and desires are - and stick to them.
thank you wild cat
We will never feel comfortable with the full swap. we in to the lifestyle for fun not pressure and we have had couples quit hanging with us because they felt they werent going to get any. but they were right...
I am extremely oral and my first few experiences were "soft swap" with friends from Tacoma. It happened kind of slowly and naturally but what a trip! My friend's wife must have a PhD in blow jobs. We still hook up when I go to Tacoma
We prefer full swap but like many have said the soft swap experiences that we have shared with others have been awesome!!!
I have to wonder how those that try and pressure ss couples to fs are with their non-lifestlye friends (assuming they have any). Do they also pressure them to do things that they don't want to do? Its all about personal character. Those of us that are true lifestylers so know that not everyone is built the same and have the same desires.
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I have to wonder how those that try and pressure ss couples to fs are with their non-lifestlye friends (assuming they have any). Do they also pressure them to do things that they don't want to do? Its all about personal character. Those of us that are true lifestylers so know that not everyone is built the same and have the same desires.
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We did soft swap once because the couple was from out of town and not into full swap. Did it that once, but will never do it again. It was very UNfulfilling!!!!!!!! In fact, more frustrating than anything else. But, having said that, I certainly would not judge someone that only does soft swap. That is their preference, their rule/limit. It is just not something we want.
Do what as a couple feel's right it's your life. We are a full swap started that way and will stay that way. But that does not make us more of a Swinger We just go about it our way. Saw your photos your hot don't worry lol Wet Kisses
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Great answer! NO ONE defines swinging. Anyone that uses sentences that start with, "Your not a swinger unless.." or "Real swingers do...." or something similar. These people don't know shit. It's just a way to pressure you. It's sophomoric bullshit, used by kids to pressure each other. They're not unlike the morons that measure their worth by their posessions. Spare yourself the trouble.
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Great answer! NO ONE defines swinging. Anyone that uses sentences that start with, "Your not a swinger unless.." or "Real swingers do...." or something similar. These people don't know shit. It's just a way to pressure you. It's sophomoric bullshit, used by kids to pressure each other. They're not unlike the morons that measure their worth by their posessions. Spare yourself the trouble.
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We are a full swap couple, but we would have no problem at all being with a Soft Swap couple.
It can be just as, or more fun sometimes.
And if a FS couple trys to change you, then there not worth being with in the first place..
It's all a mater of preference, and yours happens to be soft swap. Nothing wrong with that at all
And to the post that said that soft swap was two couples doing there own thing and not touching the other couple at all.???? (or something like that)...
How do you get that? what are ya swappin?
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It can be just as, or more fun sometimes.
And if a FS couple trys to change you, then there not worth being with in the first place..
It's all a mater of preference, and yours happens to be soft swap. Nothing wrong with that at all
And to the post that said that soft swap was two couples doing there own thing and not touching the other couple at all.???? (or something like that)...
How do you get that? what are ya swappin?
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we believe soft swap is swinging - That is still sharing your wife with another person. We prefer soft swaps over full swaps (havent full swapped yet)
why is it sharing wife
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It can be called "husband sharing", if <i>you</i> wish to say it that way. No one ever said "you can't", did they? You have just as much power to affect change as anyone else. If that is the way you wish to refer to it, then do so. :-)
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It can be called "husband sharing", if <i>you</i> wish to say it that way. No one ever said "you can't", did they? You have just as much power to affect change as anyone else. If that is the way you wish to refer to it, then do so. :-)
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YOUNG perhaps the other couples trying to convince you to full swap have read your profile and think that they are the ones.You know the prima donna type that think other couples should be begging them.Try changing your profile to reflect that you are definate soft swap only and then if and when you decide to full swap it will be with no pressure and your choice. Just my opinion but as beard said there are many different ways of being soft swap,but it is all swinging.
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we are a fullswap couple but we have goodfriends that are not.but we do not feel we are anymore of a swinger than them.we have just as much fun with softswap as we do fullswap.we just do what we want to do and never try and pressure anyone into anything.
we did say sharing wife in our post- Obviously its not just sharing wives- just wanted to clarify that.