why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single females?
all i can say is WOW
Wow...I don't think Tequila Rose needs to jump on this one, as your "opinion" is very clear, and gosh...just right out there, ain't it?
However, we simply want to state that in our "opinion", your "opinion" is found to be completely lacking in tact, good intent, social grace, and was completely unkind.
If you felt such a necessity to answer with such...how can I put this..."honesty", then could you not have done it with at least more flair and less bluntness?
I am not going to get on my "we're all going to be there someday" soapbox, because that is stating the overtly obvious.
However, I certainly hope that by the time we get there, we don't run into many people either in or out of swinging, that would have such an utter lack of integrity and social etiquette to tell us that we are no longer considered viable and attractive members of society to at least someone.
We wish the best of luck to the senior gentleman, and may he find exactly what he's looking for!
However, we simply want to state that in our "opinion", your "opinion" is found to be completely lacking in tact, good intent, social grace, and was completely unkind.
If you felt such a necessity to answer with such...how can I put this..."honesty", then could you not have done it with at least more flair and less bluntness?
I am not going to get on my "we're all going to be there someday" soapbox, because that is stating the overtly obvious.
However, I certainly hope that by the time we get there, we don't run into many people either in or out of swinging, that would have such an utter lack of integrity and social etiquette to tell us that we are no longer considered viable and attractive members of society to at least someone.
We wish the best of luck to the senior gentleman, and may he find exactly what he's looking for!
well said thoughtgarden
Have your back on that response THOUGHTGARDEN!
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Nice job Thoughtgarden well put!
If I knew how to make that clapping smiley I would!!! :l
SINCITY. am glad you are in SIN CITY cause YOU SUCK FUCKTARD! what an asshole
oh Secret right there with ya bud! Thats was very well put!!! wOOt to you too!!!!
Dave and Aleta
If I knew how to make that clapping smiley I would!!! :l
SINCITY. am glad you are in SIN CITY cause YOU SUCK FUCKTARD! what an asshole
oh Secret right there with ya bud! Thats was very well put!!! wOOt to you too!!!!
Dave and Aleta
interesting how when sin realized how much an ass they made of themselves and knew they just limited any potential playmates, they deleted the rant on old people.
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SIN, deleted their posts. I deleted ours as to not let them involve us in their game. My advice to the author is to just keep trying. There are other swingers out that fit your wants. Just gotta keep lookin.
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SIN, deleted their posts. I deleted ours as to not let them involve us in their game. My advice to the author is to just keep trying. There are other swingers out that fit your wants. Just gotta keep lookin.
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wow,what fire i started. what letter set off the comments? i was serious about the topic. one person was right when they said what goes around will come around and usually kick your cute little butt. thanks
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Telling someone that they are too old to participate, using derogatory desciptions and hurtful language, isn't funny. If you find humor in belittling others regarding things they can not control, then you've crossed the line.
You can control or change your political views, religion and stances on many things... You can't readily change how you look, how old you are, and sometime how heavy you are... Attacks against an individual's being should be avoided. We are who we are. We all deserve the same freedom and liberty.
I respect you choice not to involve yourself with the elderly, just as most of them should. However, you have no right to tell them that they should give up their pursuit of happiness. To do so, then call it a joke, just makes you look like and even bigger prick. That is just my opinion.
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Telling someone that they are too old to participate, using derogatory desciptions and hurtful language, isn't funny. If you find humor in belittling others regarding things they can not control, then you've crossed the line.
You can control or change your political views, religion and stances on many things... You can't readily change how you look, how old you are, and sometime how heavy you are... Attacks against an individual's being should be avoided. We are who we are. We all deserve the same freedom and liberty.
I respect you choice not to involve yourself with the elderly, just as most of them should. However, you have no right to tell them that they should give up their pursuit of happiness. To do so, then call it a joke, just makes you look like and even bigger prick. That is just my opinion.
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for what it is worth i asked sin to send me the original letter which he said he would but it never arrived-no surprise i suppose.
I am 52, and considered a senior or close to it, and i have had more pus----y than a lot of these kids who think they are all that. I have my memories of the 20year olds I have been with and they remember me too. though they are now 40. Age isnt that important.I dont feel insulted by the discussion at all.
ON a serious note ...... We are definitely seniors... OH and our pics are pretty recent... with in 2 years.... B is 54 and a body that could be on a 30 yr old and I am in my X0's and I don't think I look my age.. At the clubs that we go to, B is called the Energizer bunny because she dances all night long and is known for danciong on the table and strips to Zip... I n the other hand am not so lucky... but Have very little trouble with the ladies.... I have 2 girl friends on eless than 40 and another in her 40's. I'm not as good as I once was but...... I'm as good once as I ever was ...well not quite...but my dad used to say..." when you get too old to cut the mustard, you're never too old to lick the jar it came in and besides The ladies consider me a real gentleman, I've been told that I "kiss good" and I'm not in a hurry and respect the journey.... So it may be about attitude and humor and caring and how one presents one's self.We get hits on several sites still from people 40 and up ...so age doesn't seem to be a deterant.... but I can understand how it might be...Hope you have better luck from now on.... take care...
PS... If more people put pics n with a smiling face on here they would probably get more hits.. A smile opens the viewer to the soul of the person in the pic... A frown or a blank face also open the soul but that opeing is not always something wanted..
PS... If more people put pics n with a smiling face on here they would probably get more hits.. A smile opens the viewer to the soul of the person in the pic... A frown or a blank face also open the soul but that opeing is not always something wanted..
As one who has done older but sooo much more experience I have to say wow have you been nieve to try it all, lol! Yes my opinion and experience lol! But if all you seek is young and young experience then don't speak out unless you know what you are talking about! Not to knock younger, for some of them are great too but don't sell older til ya have tried it babe!
ThoughtGarden, you are so "right on"! KarKar, loved your comments. Anytime Babe!
I'm 51 she is 49 and we get all the pussy/cock that we want it is not age that counts its more about personality and keeping fit helps too.
We realize we do not appeal to the younger crowd and thats O.K. as we have found alot more open minded cpls in the over 40 range but we also have swing friends in the late 20's to mid 30 crowd too. Age is NOT a factor in all peoples mind only ones who THINK they are never going to grow old we have news for them its GOING to happen to them too.
We realize we do not appeal to the younger crowd and thats O.K. as we have found alot more open minded cpls in the over 40 range but we also have swing friends in the late 20's to mid 30 crowd too. Age is NOT a factor in all peoples mind only ones who THINK they are never going to grow old we have news for them its GOING to happen to them too.
WELL DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU ARE IN DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TACT YOU HAVE. THESE ARE THE THING WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE EVER WE GO. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION WHEN SOME ONE ASK SUCH A QUESTION AS THIS AND REMEMBER THEY GET TO VOTE FRIST, SO THAT TELL YOU ALOT AND THEY ARE A RED STATE WHICH SAYS EVEN MORE.SO TACT IS NOT A MATTER OF WEATHER THEY HAVE IT OR NOT IT IS JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD,NEEDLESSS TO SAY IT IS NOT PART OF THERE VOCABULARY SO WE ASSUME THEY DONT HAVE ANY.JUST LIKE THEY HAVE NO "R" IN THERE EITHER. BUT THE OLD ADDAGE IS GET TO THE POINT AND ONE OR TWO THING WILL HAPPEN YOU WILL GET LAID OR GET SLAPPED. LOL
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I don't think you can generalize people by locale. Political position also has nothing to do with tact. Both Dems and Reps can "mud sling" and both can be vulgar. You can't say that all southern people are well-mannered and cordial, after all they still have the highest levels of open racism in their states, to include forms of self-imposed segregation. We know first hand, we moved from the south to Utah. A year in the South Carolina (An Uber Republican State), we saw racism, like we've never seen it. Does that mean all Southern people are ignorant racists??? No, just as it means that not all are good well mannered, polite individuals. The same applies to the more liberal states. Locale has absolutely nothing to do with it. Thinking like that... generalizing... sterotyping is what breeds hate and intolerance.
Using these forums as an example; most people that claim that they are above the mud slinging, name calling or other social taboos, are a regular source of it. They are the first to critisize everyone they interact with, yet pull no punches and often hypocritically violate the rules they try to impose on everyone. I've learned that there are a lot of people here that like to dictate to others what swinging and social interaction should be, yet they do not wish to be generalized or categorized within those confines.
Regarding the subject of this thread... I think that if you have an attractive quality a "draw" and there is someone available that is draw to said quality, then you will be successful. We all have factors which attract or repel others. Unfortunately, sometimes this is age. Just as it maybe financial means, material possessions, breast implants, flawless skin, sense of humor or a million other things... We just have to keep our bait out their and someone will bite.
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I don't think you can generalize people by locale. Political position also has nothing to do with tact. Both Dems and Reps can "mud sling" and both can be vulgar. You can't say that all southern people are well-mannered and cordial, after all they still have the highest levels of open racism in their states, to include forms of self-imposed segregation. We know first hand, we moved from the south to Utah. A year in the South Carolina (An Uber Republican State), we saw racism, like we've never seen it. Does that mean all Southern people are ignorant racists??? No, just as it means that not all are good well mannered, polite individuals. The same applies to the more liberal states. Locale has absolutely nothing to do with it. Thinking like that... generalizing... sterotyping is what breeds hate and intolerance.
Using these forums as an example; most people that claim that they are above the mud slinging, name calling or other social taboos, are a regular source of it. They are the first to critisize everyone they interact with, yet pull no punches and often hypocritically violate the rules they try to impose on everyone. I've learned that there are a lot of people here that like to dictate to others what swinging and social interaction should be, yet they do not wish to be generalized or categorized within those confines.
Regarding the subject of this thread... I think that if you have an attractive quality a "draw" and there is someone available that is draw to said quality, then you will be successful. We all have factors which attract or repel others. Unfortunately, sometimes this is age. Just as it maybe financial means, material possessions, breast implants, flawless skin, sense of humor or a million other things... We just have to keep our bait out their and someone will bite.
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WELL THAT WAS LONG WINDED TO SAY THE LEAST. READ WHAT WAS WROTE AND HOW IT WAS WROTE. IF YOU HAD LIVED IN THE SOUTH FOR MORE THEN A YEAR AND I DONT MEAN SOUTH UTAH. YOU WOULD OF SEEN THAT THE REASON FOR WHAT YOU SAW THERE WAS THIS. WE AS SOUTHERN FOLKS OWE NO ONE A APOLOGY FOR ANYTHING AT ANY TIME, BUT WE AS SOUTHER FOLK HAVE PUT UP WITH THE BULL FOR SO LONG WE ARE TIRED. SO IF WE DONT COME OFF LIKE WHAT YOU ARE USE TO SEEING IN THE OLD DIXIE LAND MOVIES WE ARE SORRY. BUT SENCE YOU DONT HAVE MUCH OF THAT OUT HERE YOU WOULDNT KNOW WOULD YOU. BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE I GOT A HOME IN TENN AND FLA YOU ARE WELCOME AT EITHER AND YOU WILL SE HOW IT REALLY IS WHEN YOU LIVE IT. WHEN I GO TO SOME SOCIAL GET TOGETHERS HERE IN UTAH I HAVE TO HEAR HOW BAD WE ARE IN THE SOUTH TOWARDS OTHER RACES,AND HOW WE DID THIS AND WE DO THAT AND ALL THAT CRAP. AND IT PUTS US ON THE OFFENCE AT TIMES. BUT LIKE BOB (MARLEY) HAS ALWAYS SAID DONT WORRY BE HAPPY OR AT LEAST HIT A FATTY. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT A FATTY IS THERE TR I CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAN THAT ONE TOO. LOL BUT THEN KNOWING ALL MUST BE A GREAT BURDEN TO SOME. TO ME AS LONG AS I KNOW IT 5:00 SOMEWHERE I AM HAPPY CAUSE I KNOW IT WILLL CATCH UP TO ME SOONER OR LATER.LOL BUT BEING A JACK MUSLIUM AND ALL THAT IT INTELLS I LOOK FORWARD TO POSTING STUFF LIKE THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IF ALL THE NICE FOLKS ON HERE TOOK THE CRAP I READ FROM TR TO BE THE WAY OF THINGS IN THIS WORLD WE WOULD NAVER GET NAKED AND WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN A GEORGE ORWELL BOOK CALLED 1984. SO TR GET LAID CHILL OUT ON THE UP TIGHT ASSHOLE ATTITUDE AND FOR GOD SAKE DONT WORRY WE ARE ADULTS AND MORE THEN ANYTHING WE ARE NORMAL AMERICANS WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH, WE CAN HANDLE THE COLOR THING IN AMERICA AND MOST OF ALL WE CAN HANDLE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. QUESTIONS CAN BE ASK WE MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT IS ASK BUT THEN WE HAVE TR TO TELL US WHAT WE LIKE AND DONT LIKE,RIGHT. HELL IF WE ALL LIKED THE SAME THING WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN SOME PLACE LIKE IRAN OR CHINA OR SOME OTHER 3RD WORLD COUNTRY WHERE WE WOULD BE DAMN SCARED TO SAY WHAT WE THINK. SO CHILL OUT GET NAKED HAVE FUN I HEAR ALL THE DOUBLE SPEAK I WANT ON TV I DONT EXPECT IT IN A SWINGER ROOM.AFTER ALL WE AS ADULTS AFTER SEX WITH OTHER PEOPLES WIFE AND OR HUSBAND DOES NOT BEING NAKED WITH A STRANGER NOT BRING ONE DOWN TO THE VERY BASISC THING IN LIFE. BUT HERE I HAVE WENT AND GOT LONG WINDED MY SELF.SORRY FOLKS. BUT I KNOW THERE WILL BE A ANWSER TO THIS FROM OUR LIBERAL FRIEND THAT IF I DIDNT KNOW BETTER I WOULD SAY HE WAS RUNNING FOR A FEDERAL OFFICE IN UTAH OR WASHINGTON OR MAYBE HE WANTS TO THE FRIST TOO RUN THE NEW WORLD ORDER THEY ARE TRYING TO INVOLK ON US UNDER KING GEORGE LOL. WELL I MUST SAY GOOD NIGHT MRS.CALIBASH WHERE EVER YOU ARE.
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You seem to be a very presumptuous person. I was born in South Carolina and have lived there on and off. I was also a soldier for a time in the south. I am not from Utah. I have only been here for a little over a year. I was raised in Oregon. I have lived in both extremes. I have seen both sides of the world. I could care less what you are apologetic for.
The bottom line is, that a Southerner's shit stinks just like everyone elses. They have and still commit atrocities in the South, just like anywhere else. Just as there are people that are hospitable in <u>all</u> of the world. Southern Hospitality is no more present than Northern Hospitality. Where you are from says nothing about the individual. If you understood any of what I said, you would know that. Your post suggested that the state you live in has something to do with your tact. That is absolute disinformation. It is propagandist intolerant garbage. All states have their assholes and their good people.
I would also like to say that Liberalism or Conservatism also have nothing to do with it. All you are proving is that you, like most other are biased based upon your affiliations. Is that bad??? No. Just don't try and convince everyone that you are somehow better based upon your locale or political affiliation. We are all human. We shit, eat, sleep, hate, love, laugh and cry the same. You are no better than the next.
Remember, it was you that was making the bold statement that where you were from had something to do with your tact. So, before you imply that I am somehow bitching at you for expressing your opinion remember, you posted it for others to reply, that is the point of this forum. I am after all giving my opinion as well. So feel free to post whatever you wish, as I am doing the same. Thank you.
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P.S. It is bad form or improper etiquette to type in all caps when posting in a forum or chat, as it is considered yelling when doing so. I figured you would like to know, given the subject of etiquette and tact. Oh and it was Bobby McFerrin that said, "Don't Worry Be Happy". Bob Marley said, "No Woman, No Cry". LOL!</p></div>
You seem to be a very presumptuous person. I was born in South Carolina and have lived there on and off. I was also a soldier for a time in the south. I am not from Utah. I have only been here for a little over a year. I was raised in Oregon. I have lived in both extremes. I have seen both sides of the world. I could care less what you are apologetic for.
The bottom line is, that a Southerner's shit stinks just like everyone elses. They have and still commit atrocities in the South, just like anywhere else. Just as there are people that are hospitable in <u>all</u> of the world. Southern Hospitality is no more present than Northern Hospitality. Where you are from says nothing about the individual. If you understood any of what I said, you would know that. Your post suggested that the state you live in has something to do with your tact. That is absolute disinformation. It is propagandist intolerant garbage. All states have their assholes and their good people.
I would also like to say that Liberalism or Conservatism also have nothing to do with it. All you are proving is that you, like most other are biased based upon your affiliations. Is that bad??? No. Just don't try and convince everyone that you are somehow better based upon your locale or political affiliation. We are all human. We shit, eat, sleep, hate, love, laugh and cry the same. You are no better than the next.
Remember, it was you that was making the bold statement that where you were from had something to do with your tact. So, before you imply that I am somehow bitching at you for expressing your opinion remember, you posted it for others to reply, that is the point of this forum. I am after all giving my opinion as well. So feel free to post whatever you wish, as I am doing the same. Thank you.
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P.S. It is bad form or improper etiquette to type in all caps when posting in a forum or chat, as it is considered yelling when doing so. I figured you would like to know, given the subject of etiquette and tact. Oh and it was Bobby McFerrin that said, "Don't Worry Be Happy". Bob Marley said, "No Woman, No Cry". LOL!</p></div>
Mark it on the calendar, I agree with Tequila Rose!!LOL
Tact is usually taught by our parents and environment, not geography.
However.........(speaking of Southern Utahans) We live in a "Jack Mormon" area of the "south" people don't shove religious beliefs down our throat, different Mormons in different places (not trying to bag on Mormons, just a using them to make a point) 50 miles south, they are not as tolerant of us "Non-members"
My point is this......TACT is something you have to WANT to learn and apply to your life, where you live usually only decides how far you can run your mouth before getting punched out, some people tolerate others better over different subjects, you might find more racism in a community that has a majority, the more mixed the culture, the more diverse, the less mixed, probably less diverse (that can be a matter of geography.)
BTW, how did this topic take such a sour turn? from swinging seniors to tactless posts on the forum........UGH
Anyway......back to the sex......
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Tact is usually taught by our parents and environment, not geography.
However.........(speaking of Southern Utahans) We live in a "Jack Mormon" area of the "south" people don't shove religious beliefs down our throat, different Mormons in different places (not trying to bag on Mormons, just a using them to make a point) 50 miles south, they are not as tolerant of us "Non-members"
My point is this......TACT is something you have to WANT to learn and apply to your life, where you live usually only decides how far you can run your mouth before getting punched out, some people tolerate others better over different subjects, you might find more racism in a community that has a majority, the more mixed the culture, the more diverse, the less mixed, probably less diverse (that can be a matter of geography.)
BTW, how did this topic take such a sour turn? from swinging seniors to tactless posts on the forum........UGH
Anyway......back to the sex......
~K~
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I would hope that it is not sour. I am only trying to prevent disinformation. It is unfair to pigeon hole people based on locale. I think a lot of the issues here stem from differences in culture. Most apply their own upbringing as the standard for which is considered appropriate. If we are more open-minded about others view, we will often find the intent is good. I, like many, am guilty of letting my own perspective cloud my judgment. We are all guilty of it to some degree. It is the very reason wars are started. Human nature is plagued by this unfortunate trait. Anyway, my intent here is not to cause mayhem, only to express my opinion and promote tolerance.
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I would hope that it is not sour. I am only trying to prevent disinformation. It is unfair to pigeon hole people based on locale. I think a lot of the issues here stem from differences in culture. Most apply their own upbringing as the standard for which is considered appropriate. If we are more open-minded about others view, we will often find the intent is good. I, like many, am guilty of letting my own perspective cloud my judgment. We are all guilty of it to some degree. It is the very reason wars are started. Human nature is plagued by this unfortunate trait. Anyway, my intent here is not to cause mayhem, only to express my opinion and promote tolerance.
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TR,
By "sour" I meant "off subject" (these dam threads have a tendency to do that don't they?).
Your are correct, I am guilty of being intolerant as well, I have ZERO tolerance for bullies or bullying, and have a tendency to speak my mind to these type of offenders I believe in treating people they way they treat me, even if its rude and ignorant. (My Mother said if you can't find something nice to say, not to say anything at all.....I have often struggled with this)
"It is the enemy who can truly teach us to practice the virtues of compassion and tolerance."- Dalai Lama
But to go back to the original subject: SWINGING SENIORS!!!
"Like childhood, old age is irresponsible, reckless, and foolhardy. Children and old people have everything to gain and nothing much to lose. It's middle-age which is cursed by the desperate need to cling to some finger-hold halfway up the mountain, to conform, not to cause trouble, to behave well...."-Sir John Mortimer
~K~
By "sour" I meant "off subject" (these dam threads have a tendency to do that don't they?).
Your are correct, I am guilty of being intolerant as well, I have ZERO tolerance for bullies or bullying, and have a tendency to speak my mind to these type of offenders I believe in treating people they way they treat me, even if its rude and ignorant. (My Mother said if you can't find something nice to say, not to say anything at all.....I have often struggled with this)
"It is the enemy who can truly teach us to practice the virtues of compassion and tolerance."- Dalai Lama
But to go back to the original subject: SWINGING SENIORS!!!
"Like childhood, old age is irresponsible, reckless, and foolhardy. Children and old people have everything to gain and nothing much to lose. It's middle-age which is cursed by the desperate need to cling to some finger-hold halfway up the mountain, to conform, not to cause trouble, to behave well...."-Sir John Mortimer
~K~