Swingers Forum - Your identity and security may be open.

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We recall the same person writing "congradulations", instead of "congratulations" in another thread. What you are proving, is that you didn't spell and grammar check your profile before you posted it. With all the arguing and bickering that doesn't involve you in all these threads, you say, you are the sole victim of "hackers" and implicate Admin to boot. It seems you'll stop at nothing to cry foul after you commited offenses against the entire population of the site.

My wife caught you trying to play the sweet and innocent role when your profile clearly stated your feelings. You covered your tracks and now you are blaming mysterious hackers. Please dude. I for one am finished with interacting with you. You've shown that you are not a swinger, but someone that would rather the "hot wife" leave her fat husband at home so that you, "the all night stud", can show her what a real man is. You are a lonely asshole that took is frustration out on the forum and someone called you on it. All I have to say is good luck with your methods. I am done.
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-Don-</p></div>

WEGUARANTEEU, I found this kinda funny.

http://www.xomreviews.com/swingular.com

Nice review there...

Well dude just TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROFILES ON HERE WHO REALY CARES IF YOUR GRAMER IS RIGHT . we are a freindly bunch for the most part there is a few that dont get along but there polite to each other . and as for some one changeing your profile. evan the addmin cant change your profile he can delete it but not change it . he controls the site not your personal file .belive as you will but most of the people on this site has chated with rob or meet him so grow up dude get a life or maybe even a wife that you like .

hacking, identity theft
someone hacked into my profile and completely changed it. It is defaming to me and others. I am also worried about financial, SSN and other personal information. There needs an investigation.
Posted By: Gary Schaeffer (75.92.30.

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Not to mention that he signs his posts as "Gary" lol. Also, in order to hack his account one of two things would've had to happen. He would've had to download a keylogger or a would-be hacker would've had to continuously try passwords using his username. Admin would see this in the access logs. I think Mr. "Gary" needs to get his facts straight. I also think he needs to come clean and admit that he wrote that bullshit on his profile. After all, it only reflects what he was saying in that riduculous thread that he started.
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You can't escape your bullshit this time. The IP address of that post came from an ISP near BOISE, Idaho. Since Boise is where you just admitted to living, I think you are going to have a hard time convincing people that I gained an account through your ISP and defamed your character. The more you write, the deeper your hole gets. Rob is not stupid. He knows how IP's work. They are assigned by your ISP. He'll know that it was you. Cry all you like and I welcome you to tell him I hacked you. Then provide him proof of your allegations.

All the evidence shows that it was you. You got caught red-handed. You can't lie this time dipshit. Unless you are saying I drove from the Ogden Area to the Boise Area and bought an account from your ISP, using your name and posted on some obscure website that another member found... You sound like a fuckin child. Why don't you just say the Gypsies did it. PUHHHHHHLEEEEEZZZE!!!!!!

The rest of you feel free to believe this moron. All I got to say WEGUARANTEEU, is show us your proof. I've shown mine. Everyone can see your name, not mine. We have logged posts from you on another site trying to discredit swingular, we've all seen a thread from you, that reflects the same bullshit that your profile does and now you're saying you were hacked. I am waiting for your proof. All we hear from you is your threats to tell Admin. DO IT!!! I dare you. I would love see what the server logs say. They'll show the IP of the person logged in during the time you are claiming you were attacked. Quit talking and call him. I rest my case.

Everyone else, his babbling about the amount of Gary Schaffers (sp) in Boise area means nothing. What means something is the amount of Gary shaffers that spelled it the way he did on the other site, that also have an account on swingular, that also have a complaint matching this thread. What's being said on that site and this site are the same. What was said in his ridiculous thread matches his profile. The names match as well as the IP with the location this moron resides. What does he offer? He offers that he may have been hacked and he thinks it may have beem me. I say, have admin check the server logs.

In order to hack this retard's account. He would've had to have downloaded a keylogger trojan that emails his password or someone would've had to have repeatedly bombarded the server with password attempts. All of this would be trackable. Mr. Schaffer would be able to one provide evidence of an email containing a trojan that traces back to the "hacker" or two, he would be able to show on the server repeated attempts to login from the hackers location (IP) using various PW's. He provides no such evidence. This guy is a fraud. I challenge him to call admin, the FCC, the FBI and whomever he wishes. He's a bag of fucking hot air.

Here are some excerpts from the privacy statement:
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"<b>What information will you ask me for?</b>

When you register to use any Swingular service you will be asked for some general identifying information, which will enable us to provide you with this individualized service. We gather contact information (like your email address), demographic information (like your city of residence or age). This information is accessed by the Webmaster[s] and no one else. If you choose to become a Full Member, we collect financial information (like your credit card number and expiration date). This information is strictly confidential, and will not be shared with anybody. We will only use this information in the course of providing our service to you.

Once you have registered, you will be given the option of creating a pseudonymous profile (nickname and personal description) within our community. You will be asked for some personal, but non-identifying information to complete your profile (i.e, height, hair color, age, etc). This information is not linked in any way to your personally identifiable information, for other members to see. Obviously, if you provide us with a photograph, some of your information may become personally identifiable information.

<b>How will this information be used and who has access to it?</b>

If you choose to have them sent to you, we may use your contact information to send you valuable updates and timely notices of special events and mailbox status reports. Our site provides you with the opportunity to opt-in to receiving different types of communications from us at the point where we request registration information. Your non-personally identifying demographic information is used to personalize your experience, allow other members to find you through a search, to compose your personal profile - which is associated with a pseudonymous identity you have created. Other than your mailbox, your contact information is never available to other members or organizations.

In the event that you decide to become a Full Member of the Swingular community, you will be asked for your financial information (like credit card number), which cannot be read by others when you initiate your order through a secured system.

The personally identifiable information we collect from you is used for Internet review and to improve the content and functionality of our web server or customize the layout of our pages for each individual member. The specific information we collect is not shared with other organizations and we will never release your personally identifiable information to an external organization without your prior consent except for the purposes of validating credit information., or unless we reasonably believe we are required to do so by operation of law."</font> You can view the rest <a href="privacy.php" target="_blank">here.</a>

Which means... Your personal information (name, SSN, CC info) is stored on an entirely seperate server. No one has access to it here. Thank you.
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-Don-</p></div>

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<p class="doran"><font color="00ff00" size="3"><b>WEGUARANTEEU,</b></font> shut the F**k up. I know him and I know the owner of Swingular as well he knows me and he knows Don so good FUCKING luck. Go home to your mothers basement where it is obvious you live and your make believe women that will come with you to parties. Your obviously someone that has been burnt via the lifestyle. Yes I know I have run on sentences etc etc. Your not an english teacher and if you are I feel for your students. So just go home jack off and dream on. If your wife/girlfriend left you because of the lifestyle then obviously you have been weighed, you have been measured and you obvioulsy WERE found wanting. So see ya. Most of us on here know Don and Tami and we know better so call who you need to you will be the one in the hot seat.
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hey weguaranteeu where did the fat geek thread go?i wanted to reread it to see all your great spelling but i can not find the thread.did you delete it????????if some one changed your profile why have you left it there for all to see?you could have just as easily printed it or copied it to another page to save for evidence.hell you deleted your pictures.as i said before i do not know of any swinging site that want your ssn so grow up,take the lashing that you deserved for calling all male swingers fat geeks and move on.try to go to your happy place,take a chill pill and just relax.
Phil

Phil,

Are u starting shit again Mr?........Road trip brother! Im telling you the wide open spaces and fresh will do ya some good! And dont be strarting any shit with me man....Id have to kick yor ass too...........LMAO

I wouldnt worry about Mr WE....hes so full of shit that even the stock yards in Nebraska cant keep up with him.....Hes a VeitNam vet.....LOL kinda young to be a Nam vet if you ask me....But what do I know Im just a fucking idiot from Wyoming......

Laterzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Peace
Dave

No one is safe on the internet. Various sites use something called "robots" to ferret out infor that has been published, even on this site. If you fo to Google.com and usig their search find out just how private your posts etc are. There is info a mile long on us because of activity on a now defunct site. Check yourself out... TR you would be surprised.... This topic was brought up about a year ago here. I went to Google and told them they had no right to publish stuff on what I've posted on private sites. Having gone back to google and looked... Google basically has the attitude that they can publish anything or amke anything available that they can gleen with their "robots". There is no privacy on the internet.... maybe What's his name who was president in charge of vice is to blame since he, by his words, invented the internet....ROFLMFAO

Ray

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I would also like to add. I am notorious for being in the middle of it with all sorts of people here. My service to this country has been attacked and my disability by another individual from Nevada. I use to have a fake tan couple regularly attack me from UT, hell they used racial slurs against me. Why would I save my mysterious "hacking" move for Mr. Gary in Idaho? What's more is that Mr. Gary's profile is just a reflection of what he was saying in his dumb thread. I am still waiting for the moron to post proof. We caught him red-handed posting shit that was defaming to Swingular.


<b>Ray,</b> I am not surprised by Google indexing a site that does not have a robot.txt that tells it not to index. This topic was the center of a huge debate in the past. I still maintain that this was done to market the site. I am all for a public section and private section to the forum. That way, individuals wishing total anonymity can get it, whilst those of us that don't care as much, can broaden their gamut can do so. You don't need to go to google.com to see how private your posts are. You can go to the access point of this website prior to logging in and gain access to the forum. There are link on the front page. Try it log out and go to the login page, don't login and just look at that page for links to the forum.

-Don-</p></div>

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That is not an unknown issue here. As I just said, that was the topic of a huge debate here already. You do not even need to Google your name to have access to the forum. However, you still have the ability to control what is indexed by Google.

The issue with WEGUARANTEEU (Mr. Shaeffer) is that he is defaming this site on another website claiming unfounded security problems because he was caught being a hypocrite. Rather than owning up to the hypocrisy, he decide to blame "hackers" for the offense he was guilty of.

Hey, did anyone notice that Mr. Shaeffer is using a couple profile, yet admits that he is a single male? That in of itself is fraudulent and misleading.
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-Don-</p></div>

Here we go with the single male bash AGAIN! The guy's a jerk period.

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I wasn't pointing out his singularity, I was pointing out his dishonesty. I think he is reflecting poorly on you single guys as well. I could care less regarding "hook-ups", as we do not entertain singles in the bedroom. We do however have single friends. I think the intent behind CNKCPLJAX comment was just pointing out that Mr. Shaeffer is the stereotype incarnate. I didn't see that comment as a stab at single males. I saw it as pointing out another group of victims this guy caused to be.

We know several cool single males on this site. ValenceParadigm, T4REAL69 and DARC0NE are just a few that we've interacted with that are very cool. I would recommend any of these gentleman to a couple or single lady looking.
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-Don-</p></div>

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a person born 50 years ago was born in 1957. Meaning a person was 10 years old at 1967, meaning 18 in 1975 the year that it was over. Now if he's only 49 that makes 17 years old 1975. This would've put him in training at 17 years old prior to April 30, 1975, the official end to the war. So he would've had to complete training, shipped over just in time to come back because the fight was over. We can only speculate. My money is on the extreme likelihood that he is bullshitting. However, There is no need to drawn anymore attention to this guy's faulty character and lack of integrity. I think people have stopped caring about this subject. The horse lies dead atop yon hill. LOL
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-Don-</p></div>