Good to see I'm not the only one saying "WTF?" about that ad. Its seems highly inappropriate. But then its also like all those sultry spam messages I get in my email promising "hot milfs in my area" and "find a fuckbuddy tonight". I've looked at some of their sites and I hate to tell them this, but I wouldn't want to meet with most of the people they have on their sites, cuz I'd be willing to bet most of them are nothing but cheaters AND I already know how to find those myself. LOL
Guess those sites are for people who don't know about the lifestyle. Would just to repeat though, that ad doesn't belong on here.
Guess those sites are for people who don't know about the lifestyle. Would just to repeat though, that ad doesn't belong on here.
Let's face it.
We're in a "Kink" mainstream. It's popular, trendy and the "Underground IN" right now. We'll see a lot of crap float to the surface for awhile.
Time to break out the Turd Filters!
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We're in a "Kink" mainstream. It's popular, trendy and the "Underground IN" right now. We'll see a lot of crap float to the surface for awhile.
Time to break out the Turd Filters!
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Haha Kin...does shit always float?
Thought -
Nope...sometimes the Good Shit settles!
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Nope...sometimes the Good Shit settles!
...hehehehehe!
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I was asked to explain an earlier post in an email...got so dammed eloquent I decided to put it public as well. :P
Kink behaviour (Swinging, BDSM, etc.) is being written up in the news, appearing on TV, you can find articles in journals like Psychology Today talking about it. What they're saying is this all appears to be a "Normalization" or "Balancing" out of sexual behaviour in today's society.
Swinging even seems to be an acceptable part of modern "Peer" marriages as a sexual outlet.
So, what I was saying was this. As our lifestyle choices are mainstreamed we'll see those who are Curious and those who just want to Exploit it come and go.
We welcome the Curious.
We wish those who want to Exploit would simply go away...they are the Turds I was talking about.
Hope that makes sense!
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Kink behaviour (Swinging, BDSM, etc.) is being written up in the news, appearing on TV, you can find articles in journals like Psychology Today talking about it. What they're saying is this all appears to be a "Normalization" or "Balancing" out of sexual behaviour in today's society.
Swinging even seems to be an acceptable part of modern "Peer" marriages as a sexual outlet.
So, what I was saying was this. As our lifestyle choices are mainstreamed we'll see those who are Curious and those who just want to Exploit it come and go.
We welcome the Curious.
We wish those who want to Exploit would simply go away...they are the Turds I was talking about.
Hope that makes sense!
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I appreciate your sentiment but it sorta looks like an attractive effort to promote cheating. I appreciate that the numbers make this look attractive to you but maybe a disclaimer that says something like "Swinging is opposed to cheating yada yada yada but if you are looking to cheat with other cheating spouses then try this link" Amen.
Just seems like it is a promotion or ad to attract non-swinger type behavior. Thanks for paying attention tho'
Dave
Just seems like it is a promotion or ad to attract non-swinger type behavior. Thanks for paying attention tho'
Dave
We tried to just look at it and it says our email is not valid. LOL damn why do we keep getting mail then?
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I think we swingers have no right to make moral judgments. After all, we are not following what the majority of our society deems morally sound. I do not agree with cheating either, but who am I to judge. All of you may not agree with me. I'll bet my life that many of your families, friends, employers and churches would not agree with your lifestyle choices. Who are we to judge?
Think of it this way. It's a given that many of you partake in the marijuana plant. This is a violation of criminal and moral law. Yet many many people here proudly boasted this fact in the D&D forum. So much so, that they mistook my posts as anti-marijuana, when I said that I didn't want it around me because of my occupation (military). I highly doubt that if Rob were to post a link to a Caf
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I think we swingers have no right to make moral judgments. After all, we are not following what the majority of our society deems morally sound. I do not agree with cheating either, but who am I to judge. All of you may not agree with me. I'll bet my life that many of your families, friends, employers and churches would not agree with your lifestyle choices. Who are we to judge?
Think of it this way. It's a given that many of you partake in the marijuana plant. This is a violation of criminal and moral law. Yet many many people here proudly boasted this fact in the D&D forum. So much so, that they mistook my posts as anti-marijuana, when I said that I didn't want it around me because of my occupation (military). I highly doubt that if Rob were to post a link to a Caf
Don,
I would absolutely agree that, within the lifestyle, there's often a humorous amount of both irony and hypocracy in the comments sometimes shared (again, like you, this isn't directed any anyone in this forum thread, just a general statement). Add to that that the idea of judging and being judged by others, ranks as one of the most repugnant qualities a person can have or which to be subjected.
That being said, I do agree with the sentiment that there's a right and wrong place for many things. Given that this lifestyle is predicated on openness and honesty, a banner ad from a site that supports activities or lifestyles based in dishonesty (which for the record isn't a moral judgment on my part, as everyone has the right to make decisions and for their own reasons), probably isn't what I would deem "symbiotic" with Swingular, hence a number of the comments.
Then again, my point is mute, as Adblock prevents me from seeing any banner ads, good or bad
chris
I would absolutely agree that, within the lifestyle, there's often a humorous amount of both irony and hypocracy in the comments sometimes shared (again, like you, this isn't directed any anyone in this forum thread, just a general statement). Add to that that the idea of judging and being judged by others, ranks as one of the most repugnant qualities a person can have or which to be subjected.
That being said, I do agree with the sentiment that there's a right and wrong place for many things. Given that this lifestyle is predicated on openness and honesty, a banner ad from a site that supports activities or lifestyles based in dishonesty (which for the record isn't a moral judgment on my part, as everyone has the right to make decisions and for their own reasons), probably isn't what I would deem "symbiotic" with Swingular, hence a number of the comments.
Then again, my point is mute, as Adblock prevents me from seeing any banner ads, good or bad
chris
<em>It's a given that many of you partake in the marijuana plant. This is a violation of criminal and moral law.</em>
Well, I agree it's a violation of criminal law. There's not really any such thing as "moral law." Just had to throw that in.
As for the link in question, I'll weigh in and say that I don't want it here.
Deciding to engage in sex with others with your spouse involved is a real investment in honesty. Let's face it, any of us could go out and cheat right now and it would most likely be easier than swinging. Personally, I regard the emotional intimacy my wife and I share as one of the most precious things I have, which is why we have chosen to be up front with each other.
Lying to your spouse is prioritizing yourself above her/him and deciding you are more important, which is a bullshit premise to begin with. Swinging is materially different from cheating in that regard and an environment of honesty is what we are trying to foster here.
Mr.
Well, I agree it's a violation of criminal law. There's not really any such thing as "moral law." Just had to throw that in.
As for the link in question, I'll weigh in and say that I don't want it here.
Deciding to engage in sex with others with your spouse involved is a real investment in honesty. Let's face it, any of us could go out and cheat right now and it would most likely be easier than swinging. Personally, I regard the emotional intimacy my wife and I share as one of the most precious things I have, which is why we have chosen to be up front with each other.
Lying to your spouse is prioritizing yourself above her/him and deciding you are more important, which is a bullshit premise to begin with. Swinging is materially different from cheating in that regard and an environment of honesty is what we are trying to foster here.
Mr.
HEY GOODGENES...
See if they will put up a banner for your website GENITAL MATCH.com..
See if they will put up a banner for your website GENITAL MATCH.com..
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That being said, I do agree with the sentiment that there's a right and wrong place for many things. Given that this lifestyle is predicated on openness and honesty, a banner ad from a site that supports activities or lifestyles based in dishonesty (which for the record isn't a moral judgment on my part, as everyone has the right to make decisions and for their own reasons), probably isn't what I would deem "symbiotic" with Swingular, hence a number of the comments. </font>
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The dishonesty that occurs between the couple where the cheating happens. Both parties the get involved on a "affair" or "cheating" site, know what is going on. The unfortunate victim of the affair is the person that is being lied to.
If what you are saying applies, then any person that is actively involved in church and swinging should be chastized and not allowed to participate either. I am betting in Utah alone, there are a great number of members that are attending LDS church. Some are probably even doing it with Temple recommendation. Is this up to me to judge them??? ORRRRRRR is it they're life and between them and their dogma??? I would say that the latter is most fair in my opinion. I could care less about what you do in your life as long as it's consentual between participating "statutory legal" parties.
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P.S. GOODGENES, The bible states you should obey the laws of your land. If you smoke weed, it's immoral (according to the Christian Gospel). :-) You are also stating your view on the moral implications of cheating and dishonesty. What suits you may not suit others.
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The dishonesty that occurs between the couple where the cheating happens. Both parties the get involved on a "affair" or "cheating" site, know what is going on. The unfortunate victim of the affair is the person that is being lied to.
If what you are saying applies, then any person that is actively involved in church and swinging should be chastized and not allowed to participate either. I am betting in Utah alone, there are a great number of members that are attending LDS church. Some are probably even doing it with Temple recommendation. Is this up to me to judge them??? ORRRRRRR is it they're life and between them and their dogma??? I would say that the latter is most fair in my opinion. I could care less about what you do in your life as long as it's consentual between participating "statutory legal" parties.
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P.S. GOODGENES, The bible states you should obey the laws of your land. If you smoke weed, it's immoral (according to the Christian Gospel). :-) You are also stating your view on the moral implications of cheating and dishonesty. What suits you may not suit others.
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Don,
Actually I am saying absolutely nothing to the like, and am for the most part agreeing with everything you said earlier. Sorry if my original post came out obtuse.
I took exception to the fact that this lifestyle is arguably grounded on the openness and honesty between two consenting adults (or more, if we're being real here lol), whereas an affair is arguably grounded in varying levels of secrets and dishonesty between two consenting adults. It's not for me to judge morality or reasons - for me, its "to each their own" - I was simple pointing out the irony of a website devoted to an open lifestyle, having the banner ad of a website dedicated to a secretive lifestyle, and how the two sites have little in common other than sex at its most basic level.
Chris
Actually I am saying absolutely nothing to the like, and am for the most part agreeing with everything you said earlier. Sorry if my original post came out obtuse.
I took exception to the fact that this lifestyle is arguably grounded on the openness and honesty between two consenting adults (or more, if we're being real here lol), whereas an affair is arguably grounded in varying levels of secrets and dishonesty between two consenting adults. It's not for me to judge morality or reasons - for me, its "to each their own" - I was simple pointing out the irony of a website devoted to an open lifestyle, having the banner ad of a website dedicated to a secretive lifestyle, and how the two sites have little in common other than sex at its most basic level.
Chris
SEXYPANTS,
<em>See if they will put up a banner for your website GENITAL MATCH.com..</em>
You're right. That will be much more successful than my other site: felchfinder.com. Would you mind if we renamed it to: snatchmatch.com? It has a certain ring to it...
TR,
<em>GOODGENES, The bible states you should obey the laws of your land. If you smoke weed, it's immoral (according to the Christian Gospel). You are also stating your view on the moral implications of cheating and dishonesty. What suits you may not suit others. </em>
True enough. I personally don't believe there's such a thing as right, wrong, moral, or whatever. But I can say I don't like it and don't want it around me. And that's what I'm saying.
As for the bible, here's what I've been told:
<em>See if they will put up a banner for your website GENITAL MATCH.com..</em>
You're right. That will be much more successful than my other site: felchfinder.com. Would you mind if we renamed it to: snatchmatch.com? It has a certain ring to it...
TR,
<em>GOODGENES, The bible states you should obey the laws of your land. If you smoke weed, it's immoral (according to the Christian Gospel). You are also stating your view on the moral implications of cheating and dishonesty. What suits you may not suit others. </em>
True enough. I personally don't believe there's such a thing as right, wrong, moral, or whatever. But I can say I don't like it and don't want it around me. And that's what I'm saying.
As for the bible, here's what I've been told:
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I am with you on the religion stance man. I wasn't thinking you were trying to imposing your view. I was just making mine clearer. I feel that religion often corrupts people worse than their "counterparts", if there is such a thing. I think we are in agreeance and this is becoming a matter of semantics.
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I am with you on the religion stance man. I wasn't thinking you were trying to imposing your view. I was just making mine clearer. I feel that religion often corrupts people worse than their "counterparts", if there is such a thing. I think we are in agreeance and this is becoming a matter of semantics.
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I think it is a bad idea to connect two totally different concepts. Cheating is not a part of this lifestyle even though cheaters often exploit it. I'm not making a judgement here. Rob, I just think you are making a mistake, by seemingly promoting it on this site. It is kind of like running a cigarette add in a parenting publication. It just doesn't belong on this site in my view and sends a message that we might be interested in taking part. Now, if it was put up as a post for imformation that would be different and would better acheive your goal of sending exploiters elsewhere.
Very well said Lusty... and many others of you... Its not a matter of judgementalism for I too fall on the perhaps wierdly mystical side that "everything is perfect, there is ultimately no "making right or wrong". However, thats not to say that we dont all have 'preferences'. It just seems wierd to attract cheating spouse lurkers to a dedicated swingers site. Did we ever find out if Swingular has a similar ad on the Married Affair site attracting affair seekers to what they might believe is an "easy hunting ground" for tail?
PS... it is sooo good to hear so many speaking about how important it is to hold a field of Non-judgement and full acceptance. For the record, my opposition to this banner ad reflects my present desire to align myself with with open, honest swingers. In my past I have both been a cheater and played with cheaters. Its nice to have evolved into a fully honest, open marriage and found you all in a community of so many who embrace just how strong, good and honorable this type of relationship can be. Thanks to you all and hope to meet many more.
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Dave
PS... it is sooo good to hear so many speaking about how important it is to hold a field of Non-judgement and full acceptance. For the record, my opposition to this banner ad reflects my present desire to align myself with with open, honest swingers. In my past I have both been a cheater and played with cheaters. Its nice to have evolved into a fully honest, open marriage and found you all in a community of so many who embrace just how strong, good and honorable this type of relationship can be. Thanks to you all and hope to meet many more.
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Dave
Well it goes back to what a Wise Lady told me once and I quote
"THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE,
BUT JUST REMEMBER IT IS OVER THE SEPTIC TANK AND IT SMELLS
LIKE SHIT".
She was a very wise LADY. Cheaters suck and not in a good way.
Hope not to offend anyone but that is my thinking.......T
"THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE,
BUT JUST REMEMBER IT IS OVER THE SEPTIC TANK AND IT SMELLS
LIKE SHIT".
She was a very wise LADY. Cheaters suck and not in a good way.
Hope not to offend anyone but that is my thinking.......T