I recently received an e-mail for a friend in the Navy. He was relaying to me a list of accoplishments that have been achived over there by our troops.
15000 primary and secondary schools have been built or re-built.
All universities and collages are open
Teacher salaries are 10 time higher than pre-war
Annual shipments of medical supplies to Iraq per-war topped out a 100 tons. Just since may 1 of 2003, the worald has sent over 750,000 tons.
EVERY town in Iraq is undergoing construction projects lead by Iraqi companys and manned by Iraqi people.
All of this accomplished through the leadership of our military. When we bring them all home I vote they go to work on our problems. Thay seem to be able to get things done
15000 primary and secondary schools have been built or re-built.
All universities and collages are open
Teacher salaries are 10 time higher than pre-war
Annual shipments of medical supplies to Iraq per-war topped out a 100 tons. Just since may 1 of 2003, the worald has sent over 750,000 tons.
EVERY town in Iraq is undergoing construction projects lead by Iraqi companys and manned by Iraqi people.
All of this accomplished through the leadership of our military. When we bring them all home I vote they go to work on our problems. Thay seem to be able to get things done
I agree with Hotfun......
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Go Navy!
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Go Navy!
It's OK for you to disagree, but maybe you'd like to tell us what you disagree with. Those are facts. Those are the good things that we've done over there. You don't ever get to hear them because there is no interest in our media reporting good news about our military and what is happening in Iraq. YOu don't have too believe it or even like it. But facts are facts.
Ofcourse I did spend 22 years in the military so I'm probably just all sorts of brainwashed. But at least I spent half of my live defending your right to disagree.
Ofcourse I did spend 22 years in the military so I'm probably just all sorts of brainwashed. But at least I spent half of my live defending your right to disagree.
Why can't they do that here?
From an military brat.
From an military brat.
First, this is a forum section for non-swinging topics.
Second, I am a Vietnam vet and was in the Navy for 14 years. We were never expected to build schools, etc. We were expected to maintain control of the seas for the benefit of the United States (per Alfred Thayer Mahan, Naval Historian, from my Midshipman days).
Third, while I cannot confirm or deny the statements in this thread's initial post, none of it can justify the Bush pre-emptive war or the mounting death total of our troops in Iraq.
Fourth, the political views of those we might consider for sexual play are important. We really don't want to get fucked by the right-wing any more.
Second, I am a Vietnam vet and was in the Navy for 14 years. We were never expected to build schools, etc. We were expected to maintain control of the seas for the benefit of the United States (per Alfred Thayer Mahan, Naval Historian, from my Midshipman days).
Third, while I cannot confirm or deny the statements in this thread's initial post, none of it can justify the Bush pre-emptive war or the mounting death total of our troops in Iraq.
Fourth, the political views of those we might consider for sexual play are important. We really don't want to get fucked by the right-wing any more.
all i have to say is...
IT TAKES A MAN WITH BIG BALLS TO STAND UP TO THE WORLD AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN FUCK OFF!!!
and also in my opinion, it should have been done back in the early '90s insted of 13 years later and 2 so called presidents!!!!!
IT TAKES A MAN WITH BIG BALLS TO STAND UP TO THE WORLD AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN FUCK OFF!!!
and also in my opinion, it should have been done back in the early '90s insted of 13 years later and 2 so called presidents!!!!!
I wouldn't so much say a big man as, oh.....a Fucktard. Us attacking Iraq, made us much less safe. plus us going into Iraq was like getting hit by a car, and coming home and beating your dog...no connection whatsoever.
I just want to say " WHAT THE H>>> IS WRONG WITH ALL YOU LIBERAL IDIOTS" but I know that wouldn't be ethical. So I will say if some one came to your house RAPED your wife and and brutelized your children, you'd feel a little different then wouldn't you. This country is what it is because were all one big family, we don't always agree but when you pick on one of us you pick on all of us. And in my opinion if you don't feel that way, then there's probably awhole lot of realtors in IRAG wanting to sell some desert estates you people just like you. Maybe you will get LUCKY enough to becoime part of their big family and get some of that OIL revenue.
26 Years AF .......................... HooooooYaHHHHHH
26 Years AF .......................... HooooooYaHHHHHH
Altough there were some good points
and stupid points :! . I would like to take the time to thank our troops for all they do. Soldiers dont start wars but god willing our troops will be victorious and kill a lot of people that need killing LOL Give'um hell!!!!!!
And Liberals do serve a purpose ... They make the rest of the world think we are sorry for having to go over there and kick ass...
Thank you for keeping the balance and making us appear sane LOL...
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And Liberals do serve a purpose ... They make the rest of the world think we are sorry for having to go over there and kick ass...
Thank you for keeping the balance and making us appear sane LOL...
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Wow it just amazes me how some people rationalize things. Big Balls, Fuck off etc. etc. all BIG talk that's all. Did Bush actually lead the charge? Hell no!! He even chickened out of Vietnam as did his Veep. Made us safer?? I can't rationalize stirring up a dozen hornets nests as being safer. If those who are so quick to tout the Iraq accomplishments (which by the way are far overstated) paid any attention to world affairs and and the continual flow of information negating this administration I doubt they would be so quick to trumpet their feats. Iraq is a failure plain & simple, a coverup and a white wash. Bush is a bold faced liar proven time and time again. Just consider the known facts, NO WMD, NO Iraq link to Al Qaeda, just released by the CIA is a report well known to the defense department that Saddam DID NOT gas the Kurds in 1988 but rather it was the Iranians who did and as a result of that attack the U.S. and Britain secretly supplied Saddam and Iraq with large quantities of Mustard gas this is info that GW knew as his daddy was in office at that time. The list goes on and on virtually indefinately. Every rationale for invading Iraq has been irrefutably proven to be a falsehood and knowingly so. Just today the White House grudgingly released info on the Iraq spending, only $366 million of over $18 billion has been spent on reconstruction as of June 30th. Oil flow is far less than pre-war and they can't account for the money collected for the sale of Iraq's oil since it fell under U.S. control, yes they have rebuilt some schools but the number is far less than the original poster boasted, around 2500, electricity is still only at 50%, there's no real security but this administration selfishly wanted to transfer the so called sovereignty to the Iraqi's pre election so they didn't give a damn about those people's well being. Soldiers are still dying and being maimed daily. Terrorist attacks are up over 500% since the Iraq invasion even though the Bush adm. issued a false report stating otherwise until they got caught again. Our energy costs have risen nearly 100% since Bush took office and the created jobs they keep touting are NOT high paying jobs but are more in tune with Wal Mart wages. Folks you should do your own research before you start spouting off how wonderful ol GW and his cronies are, just look at his refusal to fire Rummy over the prison scandals even though he indirectly authorized the abuses. Ask yourself this, Is this the country I have been so proud to be a citizen of?? Is this the way Americans react?? If your answer is anything other than NO then you aren't a true Patriot of the United States of America and all she has stood for the past 228 years!!
hmmmmmmm, first time poster so please be nice.......
We as a 22 yr married cpl feel our only worries and threats are not from a overseas country but from our very own govt.We have a govt (state agency) terrorizing our own people right here in our back yards.This agency, well lets just call it DCF for short, is daily ripping families apart and destroying the very core of America.
So we vote to weed out the terrorist in our yard before we worry about a terrorist 1000's miles away.How can we make the world safe if we cant even make home safe?
We as a 22 yr married cpl feel our only worries and threats are not from a overseas country but from our very own govt.We have a govt (state agency) terrorizing our own people right here in our back yards.This agency, well lets just call it DCF for short, is daily ripping families apart and destroying the very core of America.
So we vote to weed out the terrorist in our yard before we worry about a terrorist 1000's miles away.How can we make the world safe if we cant even make home safe?
Usually people who dont agree with the war dont have the balls to pick up a gun and fight one! I did my time and Im still serving it. Being a hippy and complaining about what the govt is doing is not contributing to the nation. Get off your ass and become a politician or volunteer or do something. If you believe the real war is what the pimp media portrays your a sad brainwashed human being and you need to do a little research. You cant have peace with out war. If it wasnt for war we would all have british accents. Go back to the persian war. The Athenians (where our democracy comes from) , stood up to the Persians for their freedom. If it wasnt for that all of western europe would be oriental. So either fight for freedom or sit back and shut up and thank your troops!
Mike
and PS. To the post above. Your homeland is safe. Things happen everyday you never hear about. You dont know how safe you really are. Our terrorist Govt is the one from keeping a bunch of radical fundamentalists from coming over, raping your wife, cutting the heads off your children and burning your house and your religion. These people dont want to convert you or even live peacefully with you. they want you dead and they wont stop till either you, or they are dead! (I am voting for them to go first )
Mike
and PS. To the post above. Your homeland is safe. Things happen everyday you never hear about. You dont know how safe you really are. Our terrorist Govt is the one from keeping a bunch of radical fundamentalists from coming over, raping your wife, cutting the heads off your children and burning your house and your religion. These people dont want to convert you or even live peacefully with you. they want you dead and they wont stop till either you, or they are dead! (I am voting for them to go first )

I love it -- Politics and Abortions can cause so much controversy. I'll keep my opinions to myself. hehehehe
Some people just show their lack of intelligence and how uninformed they really are!! So let's just go out blindly and start kicking ass that should make everyone feel better right?? We bad we bad!!
Too bad we couldn't ask the opinion from all the ones who died under Sadam but seeing as theyare ALL DEAD kinda hard to do! It was him or us it was stop his evil regime or be the next one on his target list. Lets not forget America did not do this alone oh yeah the Germans and French were no help wonder why? Oh might have it something to do with the the "MADE IN FRANCE" on lots of that Iraqi war equipment? Tired of hearing all you bleeding heart Liberals attack our brave men and women who are defending our ass! I know I know you support the troops well guess what they are supporting thier Commander and Chief and one of the worst things to hurt thier morale is to hear that what they are doing is a mistake . I'm sure some of this liberal garbage that is in this forum is hitting our men and women in uniform so lets get off the "liberal " soap boxes and support our troops and it starts by supporting thier Commander and Chief.
N&S
N&S
You can support the troops without supporting the people who sent them to war.
Education.
No WMD
Destruction of a Government (The US put into power and supported through the Iran/Iraq war)
No link to Osama
Did we do a good thing by removing the Iraq Government? - In the long run yeah.
Did the Iraq government treat some of it's people poorly? - Proven Fact
Did Iraq attack us on 9/11? NO
Were any of the Hijackers on that planes Iraq Citizens? NO
Attacking Iraq is not part of "The War on Terror" Our President is finishing an agenda started by his father. Good, Bad or Indifferent that's what's happening.
Is the US a safer place by invading Iraq? - No safer or less safe
Is the World a safer place? - Some parts
It doesn't matter if we agree or don't agree on the War. It's going to happen the only thing we can do is hope that in Novemeber the great election offical of Florida have learn to count.
If you're pro Bush or Not just remember you have once chance to tell him. Educate everyone around you and VOTE in November.
Education.
No WMD
Destruction of a Government (The US put into power and supported through the Iran/Iraq war)
No link to Osama
Did we do a good thing by removing the Iraq Government? - In the long run yeah.
Did the Iraq government treat some of it's people poorly? - Proven Fact
Did Iraq attack us on 9/11? NO
Were any of the Hijackers on that planes Iraq Citizens? NO
Attacking Iraq is not part of "The War on Terror" Our President is finishing an agenda started by his father. Good, Bad or Indifferent that's what's happening.
Is the US a safer place by invading Iraq? - No safer or less safe
Is the World a safer place? - Some parts
It doesn't matter if we agree or don't agree on the War. It's going to happen the only thing we can do is hope that in Novemeber the great election offical of Florida have learn to count.
If you're pro Bush or Not just remember you have once chance to tell him. Educate everyone around you and VOTE in November.
Why is it the uninformed far right wingers are always screaming bleeding heart Liberals? Just that statement tells me a lot about their knowledge of MODERN day American politics. Truth hurts sometimes but Bill did lie and he did have sexual relations with that woman this we have all acknowledged that a long long time ago but some of you can't seem to face reality when it has been proven time and time again that there was NO collaboration between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Cheney is still rallying the uninformed on this issue with falsehoods and just as the 9/11 commission reissued a rebuttal to his public statements that they found NO evidence of such unless Mr. Cheney had info they didn't. And he didn't but some of you still rally around their war cries. Just for the record as I stated earlier Saddam DID NOT gas his own people as this administration keeps falsely touting, the Iranians did and that was proven by our own CIA back in 1990 & 1991 so WHY do they keep repeating known Falsehoods? Another KNOWN FACT is that Bush #1 along with Britain supplied Saddam with chemical and biological agents secretly to produce weapons to use against the Iranians. This was known by all in the know at the Defence Dept.. I'm sorry that some people believe all the garbage that comes from the White House not to mention their entire agenda is wound around this so called war on terrorism and twisting and distorting the records and words of their opponents. If we did that we would be sued for libel. It's a known FACT that G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney led us into an unnecessary conflict under false pretenses. Let's go back to the ORIGINAL sales pitch given to us!! NO WMD, NO Terrorist ties and most of all NO Bin Laden the real problem hasn't even been addressed and most likely never will, we've just been led down another path to keep our focus off of the real original problem. How do you say DECEIVED!!!
hmmmmmmmmm........i was going to respond to this subject but I don't think it would do any good.
A more interesting and stimulating topic would involve a conversation around the lovliness of Mrs HandC's breasts.
Now you have come up with a post we all can agree on.
Heres a picture taken about 2 weeks ago.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Heres the picture.......computer screw up.......must of been made in Florida during an election year. :l
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm is right!!!
Mrs. Ferdaroad
Mrs. Ferdaroad