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I would sue the shit out of those fuckers. I bet that's why they are keeping it from her. Don't wanna spoil it... Watch.
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I would sue the shit out of those fuckers. I bet that's why they are keeping it from her. Don't wanna spoil it... Watch.
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I think they screwed up during the surgery and want to hide the inevitable lawsuit that should surely follow.
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I think they screwed up during the surgery and want to hide the inevitable lawsuit that should surely follow.
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Oh that is Really Fucked up. Poor Girl. She should sue there asses off.
yea.. that sucks.. better her than me
I live near that hospital and have seen how it works a few times. A pregnant woman who is hemorrhaging has to wait 12 hours in the waiting room to get in the ER while at the same time a teenager who skinned himself up abit skate boarding and just has a few scrapes that aren't bleeding comes in after the woman yet enters the ER hours before...... figure that one out.
Go to Sand Lake Hospital which is just a few miles away and ER admittance is immediate. Makes no sense.
Go to Sand Lake Hospital which is just a few miles away and ER admittance is immediate. Makes no sense.
While unfortunate for that pool gal, and before the lynch mob is gathered and the proverbial healthcare witch burned, I must point out a few simple facts, and yes...even play devil's advocate.
Contrary to perhaps popular belief, and even
Contrary to perhaps popular belief, and even
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I agree people over react, but this is pretty straight forward. Woman goes to the hospital to have baby, woman wakes up missing limbs. All she knows is she was infected by a a fleshing eating strain of strep. She wants to know the details of the situation and the hospital is not divulging. I think you have every right to know about any medical treatment... <b>EVERY SINGLE DETAIL!</b>
What do the doctors have to gain by preventing her from gaining access to the information??? The doctors have time to build a defense against malpractice litigation. They are buying time. You can call it conspiracy theory. I call it damage control.
Granted, infections are a risk during surgery, but negligence could have been a factor in this case and the woman should have the right to view any and all documentation regarding the treatment for her investigatory purposes. Let me ask you this... Why would they not let her have access or tell her anything regarding the surgery??? There is no excuse.
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I agree people over react, but this is pretty straight forward. Woman goes to the hospital to have baby, woman wakes up missing limbs. All she knows is she was infected by a a fleshing eating strain of strep. She wants to know the details of the situation and the hospital is not divulging. I think you have every right to know about any medical treatment... <b>EVERY SINGLE DETAIL!</b>
What do the doctors have to gain by preventing her from gaining access to the information??? The doctors have time to build a defense against malpractice litigation. They are buying time. You can call it conspiracy theory. I call it damage control.
Granted, infections are a risk during surgery, but negligence could have been a factor in this case and the woman should have the right to view any and all documentation regarding the treatment for her investigatory purposes. Let me ask you this... Why would they not let her have access or tell her anything regarding the surgery??? There is no excuse.
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Holy fuck, strep turned into flesh eating disease? I had to study this in pathology, it's a fucking scary disease. I'd be THANKING the docs if they acted quickly on this.
You know what it does?
It goes along the plane of the tissue killing each and EVERY cell as it passes through, if you look carefully, you can see it progressing. Once it reaches any vital organs, the victim is a goner. if it's on a limb, it's cut off, if its on skin or body wall, it's cut out.
Its damn fast and SERIOUS!
if you want the techincal details, look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesh-eating_disease
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Claudia Mejia of Sanford, Florida contracted the disease in May 2005 while at the Orlando Regional South Seminole Hospital in Orlando, Florida to give birth.
Twelve days later Mejia was transfered to the Orlando Regional Medical Center to be treated for necrotizing fasciitis along with toxic shock syndrome and had both her arms and legs amputated.
She sought information on whether there were other patients or someone on her floor with the streptococcus that she might have contracted it from but the hospital refused for fear of violating the other patients' privacy rights.
As of May 2006 a lawsuit has been filed
You know what it does?
It goes along the plane of the tissue killing each and EVERY cell as it passes through, if you look carefully, you can see it progressing. Once it reaches any vital organs, the victim is a goner. if it's on a limb, it's cut off, if its on skin or body wall, it's cut out.
Its damn fast and SERIOUS!
if you want the techincal details, look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesh-eating_disease
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Claudia Mejia of Sanford, Florida contracted the disease in May 2005 while at the Orlando Regional South Seminole Hospital in Orlando, Florida to give birth.
Twelve days later Mejia was transfered to the Orlando Regional Medical Center to be treated for necrotizing fasciitis along with toxic shock syndrome and had both her arms and legs amputated.
She sought information on whether there were other patients or someone on her floor with the streptococcus that she might have contracted it from but the hospital refused for fear of violating the other patients' privacy rights.
As of May 2006 a lawsuit has been filed
oh boy.... using wiki as your evidence isn't a very good source.
I only have a few things to say
1. I fully agree with Thought Garden
2. It is not the Doctors hiding the documents, it is the administration of the hospital.
3. There is definitely more to this story than any of us will ever know
that is all.... thanks for listening
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I only have a few things to say
1. I fully agree with Thought Garden
2. It is not the Doctors hiding the documents, it is the administration of the hospital.
3. There is definitely more to this story than any of us will ever know
that is all.... thanks for listening
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HIPPA only applies to a third party trying to access you records. You, as the patient, have full rights to access your own medical record. Florida, where this happened, has special legislation in place to prevent the hospital from doing what it's attempting to do. This was mentioned in the video.
I think it's very likely the quadruple amputation saved her life. However, I think the hospital has no right to keep documentation regarding her treatment from her. Period.
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HIPPA only applies to a third party trying to access you records. You, as the patient, have full rights to access your own medical record. Florida, where this happened, has special legislation in place to prevent the hospital from doing what it's attempting to do. This was mentioned in the video.
I think it's very likely the quadruple amputation saved her life. However, I think the hospital has no right to keep documentation regarding her treatment from her. Period.
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Thas why you look at quoted sources. If it says quote needed, it's not reliable. It's simple.
Quoted sources:
http://www.wftv.com/news/6253589/detail.html
That's your introduction to research 101, check sources.
Quoted sources:
http://www.wftv.com/news/6253589/detail.html
That's your introduction to research 101, check sources.
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Ok
Come now, Jared...
Do you honestly think that mere facts and troublesome reality is going to matter to those whose only mission in life is making sure their opinion on the matter is the only one that gets heard, while everyone else's is denigrated, dismissed, and discounted?
Do you honestly think that mere facts and troublesome reality is going to matter to those whose only mission in life is making sure their opinion on the matter is the only one that gets heard, while everyone else's is denigrated, dismissed, and discounted?
huh - How about that, two different understanding and views from the same story.
I usually don't watch the video... I rely on captioning to understand the show and internet doesn't provide that (yet. ADA needs to get their act on.)
I usually don't watch the video... I rely on captioning to understand the show and internet doesn't provide that (yet. ADA needs to get their act on.)
Yes Aegis...I know, I'm sooo idealistic.
Either way, opinions are just that; opinions.
Actual events and circumstances stand on their own, independent from anybody's observation, perception, or interpretation of them.
Reminds me of the adage...something about opinions being like some orifice found in the gluteal region...everyone having one....yeah..something like that.
Either way, opinions are just that; opinions.
Actual events and circumstances stand on their own, independent from anybody's observation, perception, or interpretation of them.
Reminds me of the adage...something about opinions being like some orifice found in the gluteal region...everyone having one....yeah..something like that.
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That's precisely my point. When the woman says the hospital won't divulge the information regarding the medical procedure that was performed on her, it's <u>my opinion</u> that it's fucked up. Letting the hospital hold the material for analysis is unacceptable if it violates her rights to access. When you have the right to something it's not at the hospital's fuckin convenience (30 days to be exact). I'd go to the records department, show my ID and say let me see my fuckin record. PERIOD!
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http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs8b-MedFAQ.htm#2
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That's precisely my point. When the woman says the hospital won't divulge the information regarding the medical procedure that was performed on her, it's <u>my opinion</u> that it's fucked up. Letting the hospital hold the material for analysis is unacceptable if it violates her rights to access. When you have the right to something it's not at the hospital's fuckin convenience (30 days to be exact). I'd go to the records department, show my ID and say let me see my fuckin record. PERIOD!
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Whoever could you mean???
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well i normally dont get too involved in these things but i do work in a hospital in florida and do particularly work in information security and am hippa certified. hippa was made to set a standard for sharing phi (protected heath information) with insurance companies and other nessasary third party entities. in no section of the hippa privacy act does it say the patient shall have no access to thier medical record. they should provide the records to the patient and advise any personnell that she came in contact with during any contagious periods that they should be examined. cover ups and burying information is never the standard operating procedure. if they refuse to give the records she will need to get a court order for thier release. just my thoughts.
all that hippa did was make it easier for law enforcement, courts and insurance companies to look at peoples records,
well stated ally. you are correct law enforcement does require a warrent to get the records. she should look into the americans with disabilities act and see if there are any items in there that would require the state to give her assistance incareing for her newborn child.
I really don't post too much but this is one I had to add my two cents and I will disappear back into the realms of searching for happiness and not looking to put others down, or talk bad about their personal points of views. My statement is simply this.......
If this was YOU, and you were in this situation, would you have a different response?
It's funny how we can comment about something and have such firm convictions, when it is not us. Let the tables turn and, as with most people, the response changes. Typical, "It didn't happen to me, why should I care, or give a shit what happens" attitude we have here in America. But when the tables are turned that same person that didn't give a shit about the patient will be looking for someone to give a shit about them. Go for a prostate exam and end up without your legs and arms. Get a blood transfusion and end up with AIDS. Have a surgery, and eat some beef the hospital served you while bedridden, and get Mad Cow Disease. Fill out your allergy information, to have the nurse give you EXACTLY what you are allergic to, then say they don't know what's wrong with you. Not that anyone is pointing fingers, but by telling patients to either, "get over it" or "don't worry, your records are safe and will be released through court, but we took care of you right? You're alive after all!" and oh "We know you are who you say you are (how many cases of women having babies and getting a flesh eating bacteria can a hospital really have?) but we have no REAL idea this is you" is just not smart. I'm sure nobody in America voted to have their own records held from themselves. I also like the finger pointing at Big Business, Lawyers, Law Makers, etc. If we know it is these folks shaping our world and depriving us of the very thing that belongs to us, why are we letting it happen? Again, let this happen to you, and I
If this was YOU, and you were in this situation, would you have a different response?
It's funny how we can comment about something and have such firm convictions, when it is not us. Let the tables turn and, as with most people, the response changes. Typical, "It didn't happen to me, why should I care, or give a shit what happens" attitude we have here in America. But when the tables are turned that same person that didn't give a shit about the patient will be looking for someone to give a shit about them. Go for a prostate exam and end up without your legs and arms. Get a blood transfusion and end up with AIDS. Have a surgery, and eat some beef the hospital served you while bedridden, and get Mad Cow Disease. Fill out your allergy information, to have the nurse give you EXACTLY what you are allergic to, then say they don't know what's wrong with you. Not that anyone is pointing fingers, but by telling patients to either, "get over it" or "don't worry, your records are safe and will be released through court, but we took care of you right? You're alive after all!" and oh "We know you are who you say you are (how many cases of women having babies and getting a flesh eating bacteria can a hospital really have?) but we have no REAL idea this is you" is just not smart. I'm sure nobody in America voted to have their own records held from themselves. I also like the finger pointing at Big Business, Lawyers, Law Makers, etc. If we know it is these folks shaping our world and depriving us of the very thing that belongs to us, why are we letting it happen? Again, let this happen to you, and I
Ok...not really sure what the point was there, but I do know this, I don't recall ANYONE on this thread ever saying anything to the likeness of "she desereved this OR the bullshit afterwards".
Simply put...and speaking only for myself of course, I was trying to identify the fact that a little objectivity is in order when weighing the situation. ESPECIALLY one like this! Hence the so-called "finger pointing" at the lawyers, businesses, etc., was done merely to draw attention to other POSSIBLE aspects of the story.
Simply put...and speaking only for myself of course, I was trying to identify the fact that a little objectivity is in order when weighing the situation. ESPECIALLY one like this! Hence the so-called "finger pointing" at the lawyers, businesses, etc., was done merely to draw attention to other POSSIBLE aspects of the story.
Ok...not really sure what the point was there, but I do know this, I don't recall ANYONE on this thread ever saying anything to the likeness of "she desereved this OR the bullshit afterwards".
Simply put...and speaking only for myself of course, I was trying to identify the fact that a little objectivity is in order when weighing the situation. ESPECIALLY one like this! Hence the so-called "finger pointing" at the lawyers, businesses, etc., was done merely to draw attention to other POSSIBLE aspects of the story.
(Oh, and in case you missed that...the operative word in that last sentence was "POSSIBLE")
Simply put...and speaking only for myself of course, I was trying to identify the fact that a little objectivity is in order when weighing the situation. ESPECIALLY one like this! Hence the so-called "finger pointing" at the lawyers, businesses, etc., was done merely to draw attention to other POSSIBLE aspects of the story.
(Oh, and in case you missed that...the operative word in that last sentence was "POSSIBLE")
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It is possible, though a I think after reading THOUGHTGARDEN's educational post. I think it's more likely not the case. It was most likely a natural cause and the doctors did what was neccessary to prevent her death. However, she still has every right to hear details of what went wrong. The "Right-to-know" act that was passed in her state the year before coupled with HIPPA should ensure that. The fact that her attorney has to sue the hospital to get a judge to interpret a law that is already established for this reason is a joke. What part of Right-to-know is unclear?
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It is possible, though a I think after reading THOUGHTGARDEN's educational post. I think it's more likely not the case. It was most likely a natural cause and the doctors did what was neccessary to prevent her death. However, she still has every right to hear details of what went wrong. The "Right-to-know" act that was passed in her state the year before coupled with HIPPA should ensure that. The fact that her attorney has to sue the hospital to get a judge to interpret a law that is already established for this reason is a joke. What part of Right-to-know is unclear?
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Yes it is a eye opener and very sad and i guess we should read thing better. With less then two months till I go in for the same thing I trust that where I am going is a safe place and hope that my Dr and all of them there are up frount with everyone they see. I know thing can happen. And Jared doing what he done for his job would know better then all of us what goes on in that little room. Your not safe anywhere you go but there are people trying to make it that way.