How is everyone? I have been a member here for a year now. And there have been alot of discussions about single males joinig in the fun. Granted ladies some of your guys are still a bit jealous. Or may be you girls think letting another guy in would ruin the relationship you have. But looking at it from my point of view. I wouldn't meet any of the single girls here if everyone only plays with single females. And it seems that way. Now this site isn't just for meet for sex rather making friends. Friends with the same type of kinks and fetishes as you. I can't think of a better place to meet the type of women I am looking for. I have pics posted been to the chat room a couple times. And participate in Forums. So, I am not a complete stranger. But it still seems to me, some people here are tring to keep things exclusive. I was wondering what everyones opinion is about single guys.
i think that it is unfair to paint every single male with the same brush. Not every single male is just looking for an easy lay. if i wanted that i'd go to a local bar before closing time. some of us are actually looking for friends and sex is a benefit not a necessity. i do agree that alot of single men are just looking for an easy score. if you've been in the lifestyle long one soon finds out that even in swinging there is no easy score. the process of joining a couple is usually more difficult then finding a random person to have sex with you.
LMAO Coupleinsoutahcounty I think I got that same e-mail!
As a single (straight) female, I want to let all you single males know it is always complicated to meet people and become a playmate. Being straight, wives look at me the same way you perceive husbands look at you.
All you can do is get to know everyone, friendships are important, then everyone knows how the other feels about certain things. It makes it easier to respect boundaries, when you know what they are.
Having said that, upon reflection I have to admit, two out of three of my last regular playmates were married men. I know both wives and one (wife) is my best friend! "Husband" seem to understand the "respect" aspect of women in the lifestyle more than single men, in my experience.
As a single (straight) female, I want to let all you single males know it is always complicated to meet people and become a playmate. Being straight, wives look at me the same way you perceive husbands look at you.
All you can do is get to know everyone, friendships are important, then everyone knows how the other feels about certain things. It makes it easier to respect boundaries, when you know what they are.
Having said that, upon reflection I have to admit, two out of three of my last regular playmates were married men. I know both wives and one (wife) is my best friend! "Husband" seem to understand the "respect" aspect of women in the lifestyle more than single men, in my experience.
.Well have to admit a lot of the single guys are a little different but guess what just as many of the couples are too. I can't count the times we have met couples where one of them is odd or weird in one way or another in fact so much so sometimes we prefer singles (male or female) to couples because it has happened so many times. I hate to say that we have seen many posts here from couples whining about single guys and then you look at the pics and think omfg who would do that single or not. Single guys and girls have a place in the lifestyle community as much as anybody else. We have had a lot of fun with singles and so have most of the other lifestyle couples we know
Thanks UTCPL
Curious. I wonder what the response would be if that exact email had a single woman attatched to it? Just a hypothetical question. Would it be ignored and never replied to, would it get a response of yes or no?
SlowHand,
I am a single straight female and I have to agree that many of the single male issues are single straight female issues as well.
Shades
I am a single straight female and I have to agree that many of the single male issues are single straight female issues as well.
Shades
We have nothing against singles males at all. We just don't want them in the bedroom. No matter how much you bitch and complain about it, you can't force someone to want something, they don't want. Do us all a favor and read the profile first. If they are looking for what you have to offer, then great!!!! Go for it. However, if the profiles say, "NO SINGLE MALES." Do you think you'll change someone's mind by pissing and moaning in a forum about it?
We've got an experiment for you, assuming that you are not homosexual. Go let a homosexual fuck you in the butt, while licking the back of your neck and calling you Susan. Then tell us that it's ok to just let some stranger do what they want to you, even if it's something you don't want. Then and only then, will you understand the nature of why this thread is ridiculous.
Remember guys, it has nothing to do with you personally, it has to do with what the individual couple's desire. If they don't want single males, THEY DON'T WANT SINGLE MALES!!! End of fuckin' story. Quit trying to dictate peoples fantasies to them and you won't get flamed by the majority of the members here. Just a thought.
-Mr. TR-
We've got an experiment for you, assuming that you are not homosexual. Go let a homosexual fuck you in the butt, while licking the back of your neck and calling you Susan. Then tell us that it's ok to just let some stranger do what they want to you, even if it's something you don't want. Then and only then, will you understand the nature of why this thread is ridiculous.
Remember guys, it has nothing to do with you personally, it has to do with what the individual couple's desire. If they don't want single males, THEY DON'T WANT SINGLE MALES!!! End of fuckin' story. Quit trying to dictate peoples fantasies to them and you won't get flamed by the majority of the members here. Just a thought.
-Mr. TR-
I AGREE WITH YOU MR TR. A LITTLE STRANGE ANALOGY BUT I AGREE THAT IF A COUPLE DOES NOT WANT A SINGLE MALE THEY SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE. MOST OF THE TIME YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS ABOUT WANTING A SINGLE MALE. I THINK SOME SINGLE GUYS ACTIVITIES MAKES IT ALOT HARDER FOR GUYS WHO ARE SERIOUSLY IN THE LIFESTYLE AND RESPECT THEIR PLACE. IF A COUPLE INVITES YOU INTO THEIR BEDROOM YOU SHOULD AT LEAST PAY FOR THE HOTEL AND DINNER AND DRINKS AND THEN RESPECT THEIR LIMITS, YOU ARE A GUEST REMEMBER.
NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS ABOUT WANTING A SINGLE MALE. I THINK SOME SINGLE GUYS ACTIVITIES MAKES IT ALOT HARDER FOR GUYS WHO ARE SERIOUSLY IN THE LIFESTYLE AND RESPECT THEIR PLACE. IF A COUPLE INVITES YOU INTO THEIR BEDROOM YOU SHOULD AT LEAST PAY FOR THE HOTEL AND DINNER AND DRINKS AND THEN RESPECT THEIR LIMITS, YOU ARE A GUEST REMEMBER.
Wow that is quite an analogy tequila, an amazing imagination! Think we will take a pass on your test. You may want to try it yourself and then post the results unless you already have.
Honestly...I don't understand why it is such an issue...we all come into this with an idea of what works for us and what does not. Much in the same way that we either find another couple attractive or not. Either we're looking for a single male/female, it doesn't matter, or we are not. That's it. It hardly constitutes The Great Conspiracy Theory of the New Millenium.
It's not a personal thing against the character of a single individual if a couple chooses not to participate with or invite them into the bed. It's merely a choice.
That dead horse is lookin' fairly pulpy right about now....
J&L
It's not a personal thing against the character of a single individual if a couple chooses not to participate with or invite them into the bed. It's merely a choice.
That dead horse is lookin' fairly pulpy right about now....
J&L
i think what thought garden said is correct. it should not be a big conspiracy. some couples are interested in the single and some aren't. it is their choice like he said. my rule is contact only people who say they are looking for a single male and be tactful about it. don't say i can do your wife real good or show her a good time. let them know you are intersted and if they are they'll contact you. if not then they weren't interested and leave it at that. i think a little respect and patience goes along way
UTCPL wrote:
Wow that is quite an analogy tequila, an amazing imagination! Think we will take a pass on your test. You may want to try it yourself and then post the results unless you already have.
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Intrigue you did I? My comment wasn't directed toward couples. If you took the time to read it, you would know this. Looks like you have ADD. It's ok, just read it again. If you fail to see the point of my analogy, then maybe it's time for you to get a mental capacity test done. There maybe help for you yet.
As for the intelligent people with an attention span ranging above, that of a fuckin fruit fly, all I was saying was... You can't force someone to be into something they're not into. Period.
Regards,
Mr. TR
Wow that is quite an analogy tequila, an amazing imagination! Think we will take a pass on your test. You may want to try it yourself and then post the results unless you already have.
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Intrigue you did I? My comment wasn't directed toward couples. If you took the time to read it, you would know this. Looks like you have ADD. It's ok, just read it again. If you fail to see the point of my analogy, then maybe it's time for you to get a mental capacity test done. There maybe help for you yet.
As for the intelligent people with an attention span ranging above, that of a fuckin fruit fly, all I was saying was... You can't force someone to be into something they're not into. Period.
Regards,
Mr. TR
Very well put wil....I just might add that as far as the emails we've received from individuals bragging rather graciously about their obvious "skills" in bed, our experience has been that of disappointment. Never ceases to amaze me the lack of tact and social grace demonstrated by individuals of BOTH sexes and marital statuses just to get some ass....lol
~J
~J
Hey Thought, you are so diplomatic :-) Everyone that knows me (Mr. TR), knows that I don't fuckin' pull punches. The issue of this thread is one of common sense. If you read my initial post , you'll see that I totally agree with you. I just like to be more colorful in saying it. Maybe I should rethink my plans of being a children's book author. LOL
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wow i do have to say i dont respond to too many threads,but wow some people really think quite highly of themselves. now having some one ask if you would like another person for company is very annoying if you have stated in your profile NO SINGLE MALES but i do belive we try to keep this whole thing in a civil context. it is no differnent than a couple your not interested in emailing you (we have had this happen) you just be polite and say no thanks, if they still dont get the point that is what the block button is for. so no getting it in the ass by some guy you dont know is not the same as him asking if you want it in the ass.
We have single males blocked. If you read my intial post, you'd see that we agree that single males should have the right to pursue couples that want them. All I ask is they fuckin' READ THE FUCKIN' PROFILE! Then, act accordingly. It's called etiquette and it's respectful.
If your "think highly" comment was directed toward people with my stance or directly to me, I will say this. I think highly enough of my relationship not to subject my wife or myself to something we don't want for the sake of a fuckin strange single guy's libido. Being emailed and harassed by single guys is NOTHING like being propositioned by a couple. We don't want a single guy, have stated it on our profile and therefor should not even be approached, because it's up to the single guy to research the couple's profile. The point of the profile is just that. To show others what you are interested in. How many times do vacuum cleaner salesmen harass you and your family during dinner, before you put up a "no soliciting" sign and start telling the seemingly illiterate ones to fuck off? Don't try to fuckin' tell me that I should tolerate constant bombardment of harassment from single guys for the sake of being polite. IT'S CALLED READING FELLAS!! Oh and if you weren't directing your wit toward me, then kindly disregard this post. LOL
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If your "think highly" comment was directed toward people with my stance or directly to me, I will say this. I think highly enough of my relationship not to subject my wife or myself to something we don't want for the sake of a fuckin strange single guy's libido. Being emailed and harassed by single guys is NOTHING like being propositioned by a couple. We don't want a single guy, have stated it on our profile and therefor should not even be approached, because it's up to the single guy to research the couple's profile. The point of the profile is just that. To show others what you are interested in. How many times do vacuum cleaner salesmen harass you and your family during dinner, before you put up a "no soliciting" sign and start telling the seemingly illiterate ones to fuck off? Don't try to fuckin' tell me that I should tolerate constant bombardment of harassment from single guys for the sake of being polite. IT'S CALLED READING FELLAS!! Oh and if you weren't directing your wit toward me, then kindly disregard this post. LOL
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Wow, now that is somebody who has serious issues ! We will refer to him as Susan as we don't want to mention any names.
Hey UTCPL, lay off the refresh button dude. Call me "Suze", if you must revert to your childish name calling, playground bullshit. As for the thread's creator, good luck in your endeavor guy. I know that not all single males are thick-skulled shitheads. Just remember to read the profile and act appropriately and according to the couples' individual preferences.
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Thought I would chime in again(reluctantly) but I should have clairified my hypothetical in my earlier post. It was ment just for contrast. Anytime anyone here contacts anyone else that does not match what that other person or couple is seeking to me is behaving poorly. Like Mr. TR says it's clearly on the profiles even before you open it. If it doesn't say single males, pass it by plain and simple. Or any other combination. Ive seen straight females hounded by bi females, overly agressive couples, uncooth males, and many other situations that put others in uncomfortable positions. I can only guess at the emails that people recieve. It's just an issue of simple respect for others period. The horse has been reduced to burger and bone meal even I would like to see the topic burried for a good long while, though I don't see that happening anytime soon. As far as single males and STD's posted in another thread,check the stats. There is a big age variable in both sexes and frankly unless most single men are bi which is not the case they have to be getting it from? that's right, women. In thoery every one in this lifestyle shoud be testing as often as porn stars do unless your in a monogamus/polymory relationship with another couple/s, single male or female etc. in which case you probably have no need to be on a site like this. Now if you really want to read something interesting. google "ccr5 delta 32" No it's not a computer virus it's about Black plague and AIDS.
WOW, this is a topic that doesnt seem to die down. I think the poster of this forum made a bold statement when he stated that maybe couples that dont want to bring single males into the bedroom is because the male half of the couple is to jealous (or something to that effect). Thats pretty ballsy if you ask me. Our reason for no singles has nothing to do with jealousy. We've had an experience with a single male and it just wasnt at all what I thought it would be. Also, come to find out he was actually a married man with small children. That happened over 4years ago, and I still to this day feel guilty about that, and I wasnt the one that cheated, but I just feel so bad for his wife. His reasoning for it...was his wife just didnt give him enough sex so he found that through the lifestyle he could get the sex he needed without any strings because the women he played with were all married happily. WOW! so, we have a hard time trusting single males. I do not want to be apart of someone cheating on their spouse EVER!!!! That is upsetting to me, still.
I have to agree with Thoughtgarden on this, diplomatic or not. Everyone comes into the lifestyle with certain ideas that they want to try or things that they desire. It is a choice for everyone to make whether or not they want singles or not in the bedroom. IF you dont want single males then OKAY, you dont want single males. BIG DEAL! Everyone has their reasoning for having singles or not having singles. OUr reason is not because of any jealousy it is because we cant trust them.
For us we can get the 3some fantasy still with married couples... at least with some friends that we have...any 4 of us have no problem taking a step back so a 3some can happen, and we have a ton of fun because we all trust each other and we dont have the problems that come with singles sometimes. Now, it isnt fair to say that singles bring problems because not all our disrespectful, lieing assholes. Their are some awesome single males on this site and they meet some couples that they have fun with because they are respectful and honest so couples that want the single male action can get it with males that they trust, and that is great. Nothing wrong with it at all if that is what you desire. It just isnt for us, but we dont judge those that do like what a single male/female can bring to the bedroom. To each is own....and everyone has the right to make that decision for themselves.
Everyone should be in this lifestyle to have fun...and everyone's idea of having fun is different and unique thats what makes it even more exciting. So, just have fun and be safe!!!
I have to agree with Thoughtgarden on this, diplomatic or not. Everyone comes into the lifestyle with certain ideas that they want to try or things that they desire. It is a choice for everyone to make whether or not they want singles or not in the bedroom. IF you dont want single males then OKAY, you dont want single males. BIG DEAL! Everyone has their reasoning for having singles or not having singles. OUr reason is not because of any jealousy it is because we cant trust them.
For us we can get the 3some fantasy still with married couples... at least with some friends that we have...any 4 of us have no problem taking a step back so a 3some can happen, and we have a ton of fun because we all trust each other and we dont have the problems that come with singles sometimes. Now, it isnt fair to say that singles bring problems because not all our disrespectful, lieing assholes. Their are some awesome single males on this site and they meet some couples that they have fun with because they are respectful and honest so couples that want the single male action can get it with males that they trust, and that is great. Nothing wrong with it at all if that is what you desire. It just isnt for us, but we dont judge those that do like what a single male/female can bring to the bedroom. To each is own....and everyone has the right to make that decision for themselves.
Everyone should be in this lifestyle to have fun...and everyone's idea of having fun is different and unique thats what makes it even more exciting. So, just have fun and be safe!!!
Clearly this topic pisses people off. That is a good thing TequilaRose You are very colse minded. Listen the whole point of me starting this topic was to pinto out the fact that i want to meet a single female that is into the lifestyle. And it seems the only way to do so is through couples. However, There are the occasional pig that wants to play with just females and no males. Wich I guess is fine. But ,what about thoes couples that say they are looking for single males in thier profile. And then turn around and say "What Makes You think We are looking for sigle males?" Because It said single males in your profile. Take into acount that I introduce myself to a single female that is friends with a couple that excludes single males. I know as well as the rest of you that the couple will advise her to stay away from me. More importanty. It is hard meeting people in the life style period. Let alone finding someone you conect with in the way the really matters. I don't want to drag you into this MRtT. but you are right. Any couple on here would reply to an e-mail from a single girl. Not everyone would reply to a single male. More over it seems that said couples treat single males worse than they treat thier dogs. This is not at all fair or conduct becoming of open minded people. You can not ever let the actions of one single guy ruin it for the rest of us period. And I will ask how do you treat that single female that is just looking for a quick lay? There are girls like that out there. I am willing to bet that the male of the couple would cheer about her. I have a hard enough time making friends because I am open about the life style. Let alone hearing crap from a couple that had one bad expierence.
I had a job cooking at a Chi-Chi's in Greensburg PA a couple years ago. I was asked by the Coorperate managers if I wanted to be trained for managemnet. Of course I said yes. However, during my training One of the pot head cooks that was Known for stealing food and such from the store. Got a waitress pregnant, now he was dating her. But, I will give you three guesses who got the management job. As soon as the GM a female who was married to a stay at home husband found out the waitress was pregnant. She sent him To another store for management training. Why does this pertain to the topic? If you can't see how it does then you shouldn't be making comments on this topic. I have slept with a total of 12 women, most of them were girls I was friends with. That on the particular occasion we had sex. But, I can seriously say that three of the girls were looking to get laid and choose me. I have been single for ten years. And that isn't because I am a jerk. It's because I am looking for a single girl in into the life style. But, that is never going to happen as long as close minded couple try to keep swinging exclusive to single females and other couples. Women into the life style are incredible. because of the amount of self esteem it takes to be willing to have sex with someone other than her husband or boyfriend. Women like that a rare. I am really beging to think that the reason for some couples exculding single males is because of a certain amount of jealousy. But, that wasn't the only point I made or question I brought up. If the female in the couple isn't attracted to the single guy. Then there isn't much he can do about that. But, if you are letting the actions of some asshole ruine your opinion on the rest of the single guys. The you are loosing out. Is it because that the male of the couple is afraid of loosing his wife or girlfriend to the single male?
All of you granted, if your propfile says no single males that that is the end of it. But there are people here that have in thier profile seeking single males. And get pissed when a single male has tried to contact them. You are talking to a guy that was molested as a kid and started reading penthouse letters at the age of 15. We do join this site with a basic knowledge of how the life style works. If I met a single girl here than in no way could I ever expect her to not have sex with other males. On the contrary. But seriously there is alot of contempt for single males for alot of people on this site. How can you consider yourself openminded if that is the case?
Take the incident I discribed to you about what happend to my at my job. That is clearly a double standard. Especially, when I recently was suspened from a job. For telling a waitress that came nto work on her day off. Wearing high heels and a pair of short shorts that her ass cheeks were haning out of. Clearly she was showing off her legs. And they were nice legs, She was a tall leggy blonde. I asked her "Hey Joyce, why do you have such nice legs?" I was suspended for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take into account the other cooks were relatively imateur. Like throwing food at the waitresses when they want attention, or pulling thier appron strings. You know monkeys throw crap at eachother when they want to mate. P.S. I quit that job and called a lawyer. They wouldn't take my case. The 60 year old dish washer picked a fight with me one night over something trivial. He put his hands on me right infront of the GM and owner. She took his side on the stuation. That leaves a big question mark. I really do think it was because I am open about being into this lifestyle. Sex helps you conect with people emotionally. But, there is no replacement for that one special person.
Is the horse dead yet?????????????? Cause I got a big club.
Ok, this is just from our experience, but here goes
If there was 'just one single guy' that was pushy, crude, clueless, arrogant and rude, I'm sure that the stereotype that many people have would not exist. There are TONS of them out there that fit some or all of those descriptions.
As far as jealousy being the reason that many couples don't want single guys- no way... one of the things that we like to do when we play is to sit back and watch each other play. I have no jealousy watching my wife bang someone else.... None whatsoever. She likes to watch me also. We just like to share with couples, as then there are many more options for fun and *FUN*
I have never felt that I was in danger of 'loosing' her to someone that we were swinging with. Sorry dude, but the sex is just a game, we have a perfectly good relationship outside of what any of our play partners ever get to know. (Did you hear that?- we are just using you for sex) You might be able to offer the most mind-blowing fuck ever, but I'm willing to bet that she'll still be sleeping next to me in the morning. Why? because she has put up with my shit so far, and I'm lucky enough to have her still want to be around.
So why don't WE (Mr and Mrs UANDUS) go with single guys? Because you have nothing to offer that we can't get with each other and/or a couple. Mr U doesn't want your dick. And while watching you fuck her would be fun, What happens after you are done? Mr U happens to like women quite a bit, and would love to get laid also. If we were with a single guy, those options are limited. If with a couple, the options are endless...
Bring a friend. Find a girlfriend and slowly 'recruit' her into the lifestyle. We just aren't looking for singles. And this includes females also- the dynamics are a little too tricky with either males or females, we are trying to do what we like. So far it has been all couples, BUT- We would play with a single (M or F)if we BOTH felt really good about the possibility for pleasure.
If there was 'just one single guy' that was pushy, crude, clueless, arrogant and rude, I'm sure that the stereotype that many people have would not exist. There are TONS of them out there that fit some or all of those descriptions.
As far as jealousy being the reason that many couples don't want single guys- no way... one of the things that we like to do when we play is to sit back and watch each other play. I have no jealousy watching my wife bang someone else.... None whatsoever. She likes to watch me also. We just like to share with couples, as then there are many more options for fun and *FUN*
I have never felt that I was in danger of 'loosing' her to someone that we were swinging with. Sorry dude, but the sex is just a game, we have a perfectly good relationship outside of what any of our play partners ever get to know. (Did you hear that?- we are just using you for sex) You might be able to offer the most mind-blowing fuck ever, but I'm willing to bet that she'll still be sleeping next to me in the morning. Why? because she has put up with my shit so far, and I'm lucky enough to have her still want to be around.
So why don't WE (Mr and Mrs UANDUS) go with single guys? Because you have nothing to offer that we can't get with each other and/or a couple. Mr U doesn't want your dick. And while watching you fuck her would be fun, What happens after you are done? Mr U happens to like women quite a bit, and would love to get laid also. If we were with a single guy, those options are limited. If with a couple, the options are endless...
Bring a friend. Find a girlfriend and slowly 'recruit' her into the lifestyle. We just aren't looking for singles. And this includes females also- the dynamics are a little too tricky with either males or females, we are trying to do what we like. So far it has been all couples, BUT- We would play with a single (M or F)if we BOTH felt really good about the possibility for pleasure.
we feel singles are as important in the lifestyle as much as anyone else. We will NOT attend any socials, swing clubs etc that exclude single males. What we have found after 20 yrs of being in the lifestyle, that most couples are looking for couples with bi females, which is ok, but seems they are so hard core about it. Another problem with just couple/couple fun is that, I (the female) may end up with a dud that only lasts for 5 or 10 minutes. At parties where there are single guys, at least I can make sure I have fun as well.
We are not so insecure in our relationship to exclude single males as we have found some to be.
We are not so insecure in our relationship to exclude single males as we have found some to be.
Yeah and I'm the close-minded person for saying that single male should be free to engage in the lifestyle with people who WANT single males. How the fuck does that make me close minded?
To the Author specifically...
The fact that you can not see the forest through all the trees in my analogies, makes my point even more valid. By asking you to do something you wouldnt be willing to do in the bedroom is the same as you asking me and my wife to except you in our bedroom. Get it now?
We can be friends with anyone! Hell, you can I could be fishing buddies. The fact that you don't have a wife for me to play with, if the benefits part were to arise, turns me away. As I am not into watching some guy fuck my wife, nor am I into the DP/double fucking her. If I were, it can be done with the male of a couple.
Instead of just saying, "Mr. TR is close-minded", tell me, by quoting my post, what you think is "close-minded" about it. I want to know how asking you, the person interested, to read a profile and see what the couple/individual is into. I mean hell buddy, would you expect a full lesbian to fuck you because you didn't see why they weren't into single males?
Additionally, You stated that you think it's because the males of a couple must be "Jealous" and therefor do not wish to bring another male to the bedroom. Let's not forget "insecure" as ETNMILFSLUT would put it. If I were jealous or insecure of another male, wouldn't I be jealous of the other male in a couple???
Look man, you have to understand a few things. You can't point fingers at people and expect them to change their sexual preferences, because you aren't getting the result you want. Falsely charging people with jealousy or saying they are close-minded to what YOU want is ridiculous and just strengthens the couple's resolve to not only ignoring you and your like, but to have a severe apprehension of other single males.
I hope that was NICE enough for you to not mistake what I was saying for sarcasm or frustration. Do me a favor and try my test out and see what you think. Tell me if it's easy to go against your desire and do something you don't want to do, for the sake of what the other party considers open-mindedness. While you are doing that, we are gonna go hang out with a couple.
Regards,
Mr. TR
P.S.
Slowhand, you are one of the coolest and respectful single males we've met. YOU ROCK MAN.
To the Author specifically...
The fact that you can not see the forest through all the trees in my analogies, makes my point even more valid. By asking you to do something you wouldnt be willing to do in the bedroom is the same as you asking me and my wife to except you in our bedroom. Get it now?
We can be friends with anyone! Hell, you can I could be fishing buddies. The fact that you don't have a wife for me to play with, if the benefits part were to arise, turns me away. As I am not into watching some guy fuck my wife, nor am I into the DP/double fucking her. If I were, it can be done with the male of a couple.
Instead of just saying, "Mr. TR is close-minded", tell me, by quoting my post, what you think is "close-minded" about it. I want to know how asking you, the person interested, to read a profile and see what the couple/individual is into. I mean hell buddy, would you expect a full lesbian to fuck you because you didn't see why they weren't into single males?
Additionally, You stated that you think it's because the males of a couple must be "Jealous" and therefor do not wish to bring another male to the bedroom. Let's not forget "insecure" as ETNMILFSLUT would put it. If I were jealous or insecure of another male, wouldn't I be jealous of the other male in a couple???
Look man, you have to understand a few things. You can't point fingers at people and expect them to change their sexual preferences, because you aren't getting the result you want. Falsely charging people with jealousy or saying they are close-minded to what YOU want is ridiculous and just strengthens the couple's resolve to not only ignoring you and your like, but to have a severe apprehension of other single males.
I hope that was NICE enough for you to not mistake what I was saying for sarcasm or frustration. Do me a favor and try my test out and see what you think. Tell me if it's easy to go against your desire and do something you don't want to do, for the sake of what the other party considers open-mindedness. While you are doing that, we are gonna go hang out with a couple.
Regards,
Mr. TR
P.S.
Slowhand, you are one of the coolest and respectful single males we've met. YOU ROCK MAN.
OK I may get yelled at for this..But..... have to add my opinion. Justin does make a valid point. There are couples out there where the male is too jealous to see his wife with another man, and since she is bi..... well they want women only. We've seen it.
Just like we've seen women too jealous to see their man with another woman, so...... they do MFM only or she plays with the female only while the hubby watches, we've seen this too.
So to say Justin is wrong, he isn't...... there are all varieties of tastes in the lifestyle. Each person is different. Everyone likes something different, and sometimes those tastes change, sometimes they don't.
So, all I can say is, yes we all have our opinons, doesn't mean they are right, but it also means they are not wrong. They are our opinions and we all have a right to them.
I do think its silly though to call each other names. So chill out people.
You may not believe this, but there is a way to state your opinion WITHOUT being rude and offensive.
Mrs Fun.
Just like we've seen women too jealous to see their man with another woman, so...... they do MFM only or she plays with the female only while the hubby watches, we've seen this too.
So to say Justin is wrong, he isn't...... there are all varieties of tastes in the lifestyle. Each person is different. Everyone likes something different, and sometimes those tastes change, sometimes they don't.
So, all I can say is, yes we all have our opinons, doesn't mean they are right, but it also means they are not wrong. They are our opinions and we all have a right to them.
I do think its silly though to call each other names. So chill out people.
You may not believe this, but there is a way to state your opinion WITHOUT being rude and offensive.
Mrs Fun.
DUDES!!!!
it is all about prference...We have meet good single men, single women and couples...We have also met asshole men, women and couples...We all have our prferences...
The one thing I can say is this: Justin...Stop pushing it man...Single men are a dime a dozon...they are all over the place...Let it happen...Quit somplaining...You are decnet looking (sort of like that dude from that band, "Can you take me higher...To the place with golden dreams...not sure of his name)...
As to the jealousy issue...YES...there are people who are jealous...I am a part of a couple...and a LOT of times, we get nixed when we meet other couples because I am blessed...NOT because she doesa not want it...but he does not...I have spoken to MANY women who's husband later said NO...
As to the other aspect of jealousy...I get jealous...I think we all get a little jealous...BUT it is a delicious sort of jealousy...
OK...Now I went into a rave...No worries...it is simple...We all have preferences...Follow them...You will kiss a lot of FROGS...you will have a hard time finding your PRINCE/PRincess....Oh well...Life goes on....
Sorry...Had to pipe in...I am gonna start another thread that has another rant in it...LOL
it is all about prference...We have meet good single men, single women and couples...We have also met asshole men, women and couples...We all have our prferences...
The one thing I can say is this: Justin...Stop pushing it man...Single men are a dime a dozon...they are all over the place...Let it happen...Quit somplaining...You are decnet looking (sort of like that dude from that band, "Can you take me higher...To the place with golden dreams...not sure of his name)...
As to the jealousy issue...YES...there are people who are jealous...I am a part of a couple...and a LOT of times, we get nixed when we meet other couples because I am blessed...NOT because she doesa not want it...but he does not...I have spoken to MANY women who's husband later said NO...
As to the other aspect of jealousy...I get jealous...I think we all get a little jealous...BUT it is a delicious sort of jealousy...
OK...Now I went into a rave...No worries...it is simple...We all have preferences...Follow them...You will kiss a lot of FROGS...you will have a hard time finding your PRINCE/PRincess....Oh well...Life goes on....
Sorry...Had to pipe in...I am gonna start another thread that has another rant in it...LOL
I think somebody here needs a J O B. Too much time on his hands writing long wandering rude & vulgar posts here.
OKAY just read all of this WOW.
We dont want to have single men but they are fine to be around as long as they dont push them self's like email a couple that dont want them and email them over and over and over and comeing up to them at the club and on and on and on. There are some couples that like single men and women and that good for them not for all.
But so how many time do we need the some single guy get BUTT HURT sometime of fells left out so they post on it.
As for single women they can pick who they want not to many of them out there so they really do what they want dont they.
SO I GUESS JUST GIVE IT A REST IF YOUR A SINGLE GUY SOMEONE WILL FIND YOU
THANKS
DW
We dont want to have single men but they are fine to be around as long as they dont push them self's like email a couple that dont want them and email them over and over and over and comeing up to them at the club and on and on and on. There are some couples that like single men and women and that good for them not for all.
But so how many time do we need the some single guy get BUTT HURT sometime of fells left out so they post on it.
As for single women they can pick who they want not to many of them out there so they really do what they want dont they.
SO I GUESS JUST GIVE IT A REST IF YOUR A SINGLE GUY SOMEONE WILL FIND YOU
THANKS
DW
That's all I was saying. It's all about preference. READ THE PROFILES AND CHECK THE PREFERENCE. If it's not compatible with what you are looking for, for move on. My point was to clarify that the "Bad Rap", single guys get is that the majority (it seems), have the inability to adjust fire when rejected. A "NO SINGLE MALES" sign means just that. Just as a "NO SOLICITING" sign means don't come to my door and sell me shit. PERIOD! You can chock it up to "jealousy" or "insecurity" if you want, but as I said before, wouldn't that apply if a couple were involved? The couple has a male in it, doesn't it?
Bottom line is... If we say NO SINGLE MALES, we mean it. Just as all the rest of the couples that don't want it. If a couple wants you... GREAT FOR YOU. I say go for it. You like all of us deserve to get what makes you happy (as long as all parties are willing). How much clearer does it need to be? How is what I am saying out of line? How is it wrong? I keep hearing, "It's not fair" and "You're just jealous". Explain yourself. How am I close-minded??? I never said that couples that want you shouldn't. All I said was to repsect the ones that don't want you by reading their fuckin profile and complying with their wishes.
-Mr. TR-
P.S. UTCPL, I'm not here to make you feel all warm-n-fuzzy. If you don't like what I have to say, exercise your freewill and overlook my posts. None of what I say is directed toward you. A-B conversation C your way out eh?
_____ I wrote this in the "Manners" thread________
It's about as easy as hitting the "View Profile" Button. People want you to the foot work for them, when THEY show interest. It's like a guy going into a Lesbian chatroom trying to pick up the bi-sexual girls. To top it off... They hit on every girl in the room trying to find the bi sexual ones, never bothering to just look on the person's profile. No, they wanna convince a lesbian to be straight for their sake. People need to learn ettiquette. Just a little tip.
-Mr. TR-
Bottom line is... If we say NO SINGLE MALES, we mean it. Just as all the rest of the couples that don't want it. If a couple wants you... GREAT FOR YOU. I say go for it. You like all of us deserve to get what makes you happy (as long as all parties are willing). How much clearer does it need to be? How is what I am saying out of line? How is it wrong? I keep hearing, "It's not fair" and "You're just jealous". Explain yourself. How am I close-minded??? I never said that couples that want you shouldn't. All I said was to repsect the ones that don't want you by reading their fuckin profile and complying with their wishes.
-Mr. TR-
P.S. UTCPL, I'm not here to make you feel all warm-n-fuzzy. If you don't like what I have to say, exercise your freewill and overlook my posts. None of what I say is directed toward you. A-B conversation C your way out eh?
_____ I wrote this in the "Manners" thread________
It's about as easy as hitting the "View Profile" Button. People want you to the foot work for them, when THEY show interest. It's like a guy going into a Lesbian chatroom trying to pick up the bi-sexual girls. To top it off... They hit on every girl in the room trying to find the bi sexual ones, never bothering to just look on the person's profile. No, they wanna convince a lesbian to be straight for their sake. People need to learn ettiquette. Just a little tip.
-Mr. TR-
ok wait I need to get my hip waiters cause its gettin deep in here 
'Tis a dead horse that's now paste. I wonder if my frustration with the subject is apparent? I just wanna know what part of "NOT INTERESTED", is so difficult to understand. Can someone enlighten me?
I am alway perplexed as to why this question is asked, especially by single males. I'm a single male and have no problem accepting the fact that if a couple or for that matter another woman doesn't want me to participate. Fine, I move on, find greener pastures. I have my preferences as does everyone else. I mean, I dont have to have a reason to dislike a particular type of food. I dont have anyone hounding me as to why I wont eat egg plant. I simply say I dont like it and the subject is dropped.
Why is it that its expected for people to provide a reason that they dont want to participate in a particular activity with another person, especially when it comes to sexual activity?
To me it seems the people with the most open minds are those who can accept the fact that not everyone wants to have sex with them. I mean, I'm a pretty average guy, but there are people who might think I'm to fat, others might think I'm to thin, to tall, to short. Not thick enough, not long enough, to long, to thick, wrong color hair, or of course just to long winded.
As a single male, I get to endure the label of being the borish, whiney, ignorant, sex crazed guy who just wants to come in and fuck somebody else's wife. By crying about it and asking others to change their own desires to match mine simply re-inforces that perception. How bout I actually look for those that want a single guy to participate and then treat them with respect and appreciation for allowing me to become a part of their life. I mean, that's how I've managed to develop and strengthen any other relationship I have in my life, why should these relationships be any different?
Why is it that its expected for people to provide a reason that they dont want to participate in a particular activity with another person, especially when it comes to sexual activity?
To me it seems the people with the most open minds are those who can accept the fact that not everyone wants to have sex with them. I mean, I'm a pretty average guy, but there are people who might think I'm to fat, others might think I'm to thin, to tall, to short. Not thick enough, not long enough, to long, to thick, wrong color hair, or of course just to long winded.
As a single male, I get to endure the label of being the borish, whiney, ignorant, sex crazed guy who just wants to come in and fuck somebody else's wife. By crying about it and asking others to change their own desires to match mine simply re-inforces that perception. How bout I actually look for those that want a single guy to participate and then treat them with respect and appreciation for allowing me to become a part of their life. I mean, that's how I've managed to develop and strengthen any other relationship I have in my life, why should these relationships be any different?
WANTINGMILFINUT, That was a beautiful response. That's what I am saying man. You are the type that I could hang with at a party and not feel like you're gonna harass my wife everytime I go to the latrine. WELL SAID MAN!
WELL SAID MR. TR YOU PUT IT THE BEST
DW
DW
At the expense of people thinking that I'm an asshole. Anyone reading the entire thread would know that I am being sincere and my intent was good. Most people only read, FUCK, SHIT, ASSHOLE, DAMN, BUTT, FETCH, LOL. Then label me an asshole. When in fact, I am a loud-mouthed asshole. Thanks DW ;-)
-Mr. TR-
P.S. A little reminder from Swingular. This should clear a few things for the author.
http://www.swingular.com/singlemen.php
http://www.swingular.com/singlemenrules.php
-Mr. TR-
P.S. A little reminder from Swingular. This should clear a few things for the author.
http://www.swingular.com/singlemen.php
http://www.swingular.com/singlemenrules.php
Thanks to everyone that posted for me. I can see this gets people fired up. MTR you did say in anealier thread most single males are well assholes. You didn't use those words exactly but it was in what you said. So I couldn't help but wonder if you were letting one expierence ruin your opinino on single males. I am certainly not asking anyone to change thier preferences. Let me say this it does seem that the couples here are alot more open than single females. Most of the single females I have contacted are down right bitchy. Don't let that piss everyone off. I have not contacted near a fraction of the single females on this site. As for needing a job. I wish I had one. But I was right to quit the one I had for the reason I did. After I quit I went to a temp agency to help me find work. It's been two three months and they haven't even called once. I am a Serve Safe certified cook, And PA State certified. I recently aplied to an ad in the local news paper. For a full time cook at a nursing home the Human resorces person called(female). And after I asked her about pay, health insurance and if they were involved in a union. She said Maybe I wasn't what she was looking for. Then told me it was only a 10-12hr/ week job. The same thing happend to me when I aplied to a local Chuck Cheeses. Only this time The GM(female) tried to tell me she never placed the ad. So I read it right off the news paper. She didn't have much to say. I remember sending an email to a women that had her profile set to single female looking. After a couple of emails sent back and forth they started to get rude towards me. Turns out she had a husband.
And I really would have liked to hear from more single females about this topic. As for finding a girl and introducing her to the life style. I live in a small town. I ran into a girl I went to high school with. We hung out a couple times this summer. One night she let it slip. The guys she's friends with told her to stay away from me> I asked why would they say that. She said well I heard you were gay, Someone told me you had aids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any way like I said thanks to everyone who posted here. I really do apreciate all of the opinions. I does help seriously. But I have never Badgered anyone Couple or single female. I never will, You are either intrested in some one or you aren't. A large range of people posted to this thread. Wish I could have heard from more single females or couples that do play with single males. But this does seem to upset the couples that don't play with single males. I wasn't complaining It did sound like I was. But I have gotten some dahm rude e-mails from people I have tried to contact. And the single females are the worst. The ones that even get back to at all. And thak you for the complement fro the couple sadi I look like whats his nuts from CREED. HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OF YOU.
LifeStylePlayer, Thanks for the kudos. Justin68, I know you are in pursuit of happiness like the rest of us man. All my babble amounted to, "Read the profile, before approaching the couple and act accordingly".
As far as the reasons we (tequilarose), don't want single males... First of all it has nothing to do with a "bad experience" with a single male. It's actually quite simple. A single male can give us no more (in fact less), than a married or attached male in the bedroom. A "coupled" male, if you will, brings a lady for us as well. A single male brings his dick and his libido. I being a married male, bring a dick, libido, a pussy, it's libido some titties, bootie, belly button, etc. You see how things don't add up. A single male might argue that a coupled male may want to watch a guy fuck his wife. Can't another couple's male do that and to top it off, I can watch whilst I'm fuckin' his wife. That's the truth of it. It has nothing to do with Jealousy or insecurity, it has to do with what we view as fairness and equality. Hope this shed some light.
-Mr. TR-
As far as the reasons we (tequilarose), don't want single males... First of all it has nothing to do with a "bad experience" with a single male. It's actually quite simple. A single male can give us no more (in fact less), than a married or attached male in the bedroom. A "coupled" male, if you will, brings a lady for us as well. A single male brings his dick and his libido. I being a married male, bring a dick, libido, a pussy, it's libido some titties, bootie, belly button, etc. You see how things don't add up. A single male might argue that a coupled male may want to watch a guy fuck his wife. Can't another couple's male do that and to top it off, I can watch whilst I'm fuckin' his wife. That's the truth of it. It has nothing to do with Jealousy or insecurity, it has to do with what we view as fairness and equality. Hope this shed some light.
-Mr. TR-
It's interesting how each time the "single male" topic appears,
it is usually followed closely by the obligatory "beating a dead horse" post.
Even MORE interesting though, is how quickly this "dead horse" quickly
reaches 5 or 6 pages of dicussion!!!!
Human behavior is the best show on the planet.
it is usually followed closely by the obligatory "beating a dead horse" post.
Even MORE interesting though, is how quickly this "dead horse" quickly
reaches 5 or 6 pages of dicussion!!!!
Human behavior is the best show on the planet.
I feel like I need to clarify as well that because of my posting about ONE "bad single male experience"we did not base our decision to not include singles in our bedroom because of that one bad experience. that is NOT the only reason !! I have seen a lot of ppl making the comment that you shouldnt give single males a bad rap because of one bad experience....I AGREE with that. Our bad experience was just that.... ONE bad experience...we have had bad experiences with couples as well, but we didnt stop meeting up with couples. It doesnt matter what your preferences are it seems you will have your good times and your not so good times, and then your really BAD times.
Like TequilaRose said in one of his postings...there isnt anything a single male can bring into our bedroom fun that a male from another couple cant bring.....Mr. Stitch LOVES to watch me with other men...and he likes 3somes just as much as I do but as I metnioned before we can get that kinda experience with our couple friends and we are more comfortable with that.
Bottom line...you do what works best for you. You do what you are most comfortable doing. You do what is fun, erotic, and the most exciting for you and your partner if you have one. That doesnt mean that we are closed minded....hell if we were closed minded then we wouldnt be doing this swingen shit in the first place, I would say we are pretty open minded ppl. (GRIN) but for some couples bringing sinlge males in the bedroom just isnt what they want for one reason or the other.
For Mr. Stitch and I we choose not to bring single males or single females in the mix not because we are jealous or worried that the single is going to steal our relationship away (cuz you all know as well as I do that it can happen with a couple too!!! we've seen that happen!) but just because we like the dynamic that a couple brings to the bedroom, it is just our preference, thats all. We just have more fun with couples because for us it is not all about the sex, it is also about the friendship and having a couple to go do other things with like movies, dinner, bbq's, etc. hanging out with singles as a married couple just doesnt work out that well, you know sometimes 3 is a crowd. So the dynamic of a couple works better for us. Just our opinion and our opinion isnt gospel, or law just as nobody else's is either.
Like TequilaRose said in one of his postings...there isnt anything a single male can bring into our bedroom fun that a male from another couple cant bring.....Mr. Stitch LOVES to watch me with other men...and he likes 3somes just as much as I do but as I metnioned before we can get that kinda experience with our couple friends and we are more comfortable with that.
Bottom line...you do what works best for you. You do what you are most comfortable doing. You do what is fun, erotic, and the most exciting for you and your partner if you have one. That doesnt mean that we are closed minded....hell if we were closed minded then we wouldnt be doing this swingen shit in the first place, I would say we are pretty open minded ppl. (GRIN) but for some couples bringing sinlge males in the bedroom just isnt what they want for one reason or the other.
For Mr. Stitch and I we choose not to bring single males or single females in the mix not because we are jealous or worried that the single is going to steal our relationship away (cuz you all know as well as I do that it can happen with a couple too!!! we've seen that happen!) but just because we like the dynamic that a couple brings to the bedroom, it is just our preference, thats all. We just have more fun with couples because for us it is not all about the sex, it is also about the friendship and having a couple to go do other things with like movies, dinner, bbq's, etc. hanging out with singles as a married couple just doesnt work out that well, you know sometimes 3 is a crowd. So the dynamic of a couple works better for us. Just our opinion and our opinion isnt gospel, or law just as nobody else's is either.
THe best way in this lifestyle is to read the Whole profile and see the couples interest...YOU would Not buy a purple car if you wanted red would you??????So respect there wishes and remember. Pushy is a big TURN OFF......simplyhung
we were simply stating our view on the subject. Nothing more.
I think we replied wrong. Still getting used to the site. Our post was NOT directed at anyone in particular. Sorry for any confusion.
Since I
Having been in the lifestyle for 17 yrs, we have noticed that women make the rules within the lifestyle.
Wifes / Women come first, and us men know that we are lucky to have such wonderful wifes to allow us to share this life with them, so when they want another man they get it and when they want another woman they get that.
It is just that they enjoy another woman more often when they are seeking one other person to join in the fun.
Wifes / Women come first, and us men know that we are lucky to have such wonderful wifes to allow us to share this life with them, so when they want another man they get it and when they want another woman they get that.
It is just that they enjoy another woman more often when they are seeking one other person to join in the fun.
Not so fast SENSUAL_GEMINIMAN..................... HOLLY_WOULD and MR>WOULD clever names. The thing is, I was tring to be honest about my self. At the same time leave people who read it with questions. Hoping that, that would give them a little insentive to get to, or want to get to no me more. I do understand what you were saying about what I put in the SEARCHING FOR description. That would put off certain single females. And everyone on this thread is right when they say personality is a bigger factor than looks. But I have to say, women with thoes physical features really make my knees weak. DON'T GET FAT ON TURKEY EVERYONE.
One last thing. Happy thanksgiving. And to those couples that gave me this advice. "Be nice, wait and a girl will come to you." ARE YOU JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know anyone who has ever gotten the relationship they want. BY sitting in the coner waiting. Is that how some of you couples trick single males into being your cucks?
OK, didn't read through it all...but let me say as half of a couple that's currently playing as a single, I'm living a double standard. I would love to play with couples, but if/when I get my better half to join in the lifestyle...single males would be a no way/no how.
I guess my point is, and I'm sure it's been made before, is that it's all about preference. If a couple thinks it's hot to have another guy, great...I'm thankful for the opportunity. If they aren't interested, what am I going to do? Force them to have sex with me?
It's a lot like dating, with a few twists. You have to go with what works for all parties involved.
I guess my point is, and I'm sure it's been made before, is that it's all about preference. If a couple thinks it's hot to have another guy, great...I'm thankful for the opportunity. If they aren't interested, what am I going to do? Force them to have sex with me?
It's a lot like dating, with a few twists. You have to go with what works for all parties involved.
As a single male, I can understand all of this. It just amazes me sometimes, I have been a member here for over a year now and I admit that when I 1st joined, I thought,hey this is a good way to at least get laid! Yeah I did the usual and tried to contact everyone close to me,(not that there is or was alot at the time) and because of the way I portrayed myself looking back at it now, I am not a bit surprized I was always turned down. ( And to all of you that I did contact when I 1st joined, if I didn't ever say it before, I'm saying it now. I'm sorry for the way I acted contacting you and basically I am very glad you turned me down like you did, not rude or anything like that but it made me look more at myself and what I was trying to get into so thanks again)Since then I have learned alot, reading all these posts,been to the chat rooms only a few time (really need to more) and I have quite sending messages out to people for the most part. I did a few months back contact a few new members,(trail or just new) that were single women and it ended up with me making some real good friends just even chatting. One main one in particular that I chat with alot and she knows who she is and knows how much we have grown together as friends. If she didn't live so far away I am very sure we would be together and in the lifestyle also. I have deffinately learned not to be pushy or rude etc. I have even had a couple of couples contact me that again we live too far apart but we talk off and on and who knows, maybe some day our paths will cross. Lately, I am just to the point where sure sex would be great with any woman I'm sure on here but my main reason for staying a member here is for all the knowledge I get from people here at the site and the friends I have made here.It has and still is a very learning experience and I also want to thank the one's here who have helped me in one way or another. I always get a kick out of this topic when it is brought up,(which seems quite often since I have been here) but I totally agree, everyone has their own likes and dislikes and there is no sense pushing what someone doesn't want on them because it only makes them against it even more! Ok I guess maybe I have probaly said ttoo much and just gone on some here but this site and most of the people here are all pretty great!Maybe somedayI'll get to meet more of you in person as friends out having fun or whatever but until then you all just keep on keep being who you are and don't let anyone change you unless it's for the better.! Probably way to much said,just my opinion and I don't think this dead horse will ever die as long as there is people alive! OK enough and I hope everyone has or had a great Thanksgiving! Thanks for reading my ranting for today!
YOUNGSTIENER2.... Paragraphs are my friend and should be your friend)
The Dead Sea Scrolls would be eaiser to read.
Question: Was the name YOUNGSTIENER1 already taken by your dad :S
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"But it still seems to me, some people here are tring to keep things exclusive".
Mr. JUSTIN68 quit your fugging whining, there are plenty of other groups who have requirements designed to attract those who share the same interest.
Examples:
VFW's are for Veterans.
Shriners don't let just anyone wear the vest, red fez and ride the little motorcycles in the parade.
The Church of Scientology requires you HAVE and GIVE them LOTS of money.
The Masons require you have a PENIS to join.
Hell, even the Mickey Mouse Club had mandatory head gear requirements.
Lifestyle clubs and parties routinely REQUIRE single men have partner.
Anyone know the requirement to be on a ladies softball team? LMFAO
The Dead Sea Scrolls would be eaiser to read.
Question: Was the name YOUNGSTIENER1 already taken by your dad :S
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Now back to the regular scheduled programing.
"But it still seems to me, some people here are tring to keep things exclusive".
Mr. JUSTIN68 quit your fugging whining, there are plenty of other groups who have requirements designed to attract those who share the same interest.
Examples:
VFW's are for Veterans.
Shriners don't let just anyone wear the vest, red fez and ride the little motorcycles in the parade.
The Church of Scientology requires you HAVE and GIVE them LOTS of money.
The Masons require you have a PENIS to join.
Hell, even the Mickey Mouse Club had mandatory head gear requirements.
Lifestyle clubs and parties routinely REQUIRE single men have partner.
Anyone know the requirement to be on a ladies softball team? LMFAO
When as a couple, we used to allow a few select single males to join in on our fun. However, due in part to that allowance, I am now a single male, and no longer part of a couple, so I have gained a great respect for those who do not wish or want single males involved, and for the BS certain assholes can bring.
Guys, one single guy to another, cherish what time you may be allowed with a couple. If they trust you enough to let you in or even chat with you, show the same amount of respect back X 10! If its time to go GO!!
It is a unique couple and husband/BF that can allow single males to enter into their lives. Sometimes it wokrs great, sometmes it doesnt. Just dont be the cause or a result of a seperation or breakup, things are ugly enough with breakups as it is. Dont add to the drama.
Guys, one single guy to another, cherish what time you may be allowed with a couple. If they trust you enough to let you in or even chat with you, show the same amount of respect back X 10! If its time to go GO!!
It is a unique couple and husband/BF that can allow single males to enter into their lives. Sometimes it wokrs great, sometmes it doesnt. Just dont be the cause or a result of a seperation or breakup, things are ugly enough with breakups as it is. Dont add to the drama.
We don
XXXTACY2X I wasn't at all upset by what HOLLY_WOULD said to me. THIS IS FOR EVERYONE There were a couple people that have posted to this thread. SAYING "Evervyone here has thier own preferences. And that people should just accept that. Not try and change them or badger them when you are turned down." Very well said, I think all of you know it is hard making friends in the outside world. Especially when you are open about the life style. Regular people treat you worse than they would treat a drug addict. So, why would some of you tell me I should change? If you read all of my postings you know I have recently found out. That there is a group of people in my home town telling girls I have AIDS. So, I joined this to meet people I know wouldn't judge me for being open sexually. But as it turns out some people here still do. I do read peoples profiles The first thing I look for is if the are still active members. When I run a search I search for single females and couples looking for single males. The fact is other than this post I have not interacted with anyone that has posted to this thread. So how is it SOME of you can automatically asume I am here looking for a quick easy lay? Apearently, it's simply because I am a single male. I joined this site hoping to meet a single female into the life style. Someone, I could fall for. And I was hoping to make friends along the way. I've met a young couple a few years ago. They were into swinging, I was single and going through a long arduous soul searching period. And The male asked me of I was intrested in his girlfriend. I told him I thought she was great and very attractive. Then I said I would be real cool if I had a girlfriend I could share with him. Wonder why I said that. All my life every where I go permicuous girls have been attracted to me. HOLLY_WOULD I ead your thread and gave it thought. I did change some of my profile. I didn't come here looking to @#$% some guys wife. And to the girl That said I should stop whinning. No body is whinning Everyone that has posted to this thread has made a very valid point. The guy who said compare this to dating. Said it right, I look through profiles and when I find some one I am atrracted to I send them an e-mail. The only way to get a girl to date you is by introducing yourself. Isn't it. I think a person has to look at this site the same way they would look at a dating site. You find someone with a profile you think you click with, and introduce yourself. And they either get back to you or don't .
Ok Justin68...this is Ms Would so just so it is completely obvious to you. Watch the difference between you and a single guy that we would consider to be nice, respectful, and well mannered, k? Remember, we're one of those couples that you are bitching about that 'don
It's probably already been said, but one of the best things a single male (in UT) could do is to hang around in the chat room and actually get to know people. As the first reply said, singles tend to have nothing to lose and don't bring much more than physicality to the table.
Anyone can find physicality, but enjoying the person's company is key to many couples. Mrs. AG and I are in the camp that we *have* to be able to have a laugh and good chemistry to have any attraction to our playmates whatsoever.
Respect is another major point. A lot of single males simply do not respect those they are with. They can come off as uncaring, selfish, and at times are little more than walking hard-ons with absolutely nothing left to offer personality-wise, ergo touching down on the territory of offering nothing above physicality. There are a lot of great single males out there, but unfortunately this is a case where some bad apples really do spoil it for most.
Once you get a respectable couple sold on your status as a fun, respectful, and stable single male chances are good you won't even have to advertise yourself much as word *does* spread.
I'm too lazy to read the entire thread. Thanks for entertaining the rehash.
Mr. A.G.
Anyone can find physicality, but enjoying the person's company is key to many couples. Mrs. AG and I are in the camp that we *have* to be able to have a laugh and good chemistry to have any attraction to our playmates whatsoever.
Respect is another major point. A lot of single males simply do not respect those they are with. They can come off as uncaring, selfish, and at times are little more than walking hard-ons with absolutely nothing left to offer personality-wise, ergo touching down on the territory of offering nothing above physicality. There are a lot of great single males out there, but unfortunately this is a case where some bad apples really do spoil it for most.
Once you get a respectable couple sold on your status as a fun, respectful, and stable single male chances are good you won't even have to advertise yourself much as word *does* spread.
I'm too lazy to read the entire thread. Thanks for entertaining the rehash.
Mr. A.G.
HOLLY_WOULD There is seriously no reason for your hostility. I haven't once said anything remotely agresive or ignorant to you. In fact, I do believe I thanked you. But in all seriousnes You got pretty pissed just because I don't agree with you. Is that not being close minded? I think so. Besides, Have I hit on your wife ever? Nothing wrong with saying hi to people I want to meet. Explain to me where the harm is. In telling a women you think is attractive you think she's hot or sexy. So, When have I bitched about anything here? Every man or women in this country is intitled to thier opinions. Is HOLLY_WOULD's hostility because they don't think single males should have one? What is your problem HOLLY_WOULD are you a paligymist? And I broke up with that girl ten years ago because she was hanging out with an asshole. You know the type of guy that treats women like shit. And it was taking a toll on our relationship. So I said to her one night if you don't stop hanging out with this guy. You and I are never going to make it to the next level. When I got home from my first yaer at college they were all smoking pot. And it broke my heart when I saw what a bitch she turned into. I still talk to her family, and last Iheard she finished college and was IN WV. Now does that sound like the actions of a moron to you? Yeah I didn't think so. When I quit my job my mom said to me. What the hell did you quit for? When I explained to her it was because I was suspended for telling a waitress she had nice legs. She said well that is sexual harasment. That's when I said so is throwing food at them, grabbing thier appron strings and telling them they are stupid. Besides $7.00/hr isn't worth cleaing up after [ot heads.My older sister and Cousin AMY gave me advice on how I should try to get a girlfriend. It shouldn't surprise you it was during the time period. When I was between 20-25. And it never surprised me when the girl I was talking to at the time. Wound up fucking some guy that got her high. Girls that age want to expirence everything life has to offer, everything. And Who can blame them. Wanting people to be the way you want them to be. And chastizing them for not being that way is communism. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HOLLY_WOULD tell me how changing my personality is going to make me happy? How do you propose I find a women that likes ME if I am not myself? And there is absolutly nothing wrong with that and fuck you for tring to tell me other wise. Just because you don't like my profile doesn't mean that no one will.
:l :l :l :l ALASKAN GROWN. You are to lazy thats hilarious. But I don't blame you.
I do realize that me saying why I joined this site is because some one is telling people I have AIDS.. That isn't the case I joined this site along time before I found that out.
ok justin how would you like it if in your old profile you state that you are looking for petite females and then a lot of obese females started contacting you? well it is the same thing read the profiles and respond according.and yes we do play with single males but are very selective.as an example about alot of single males attitudes at this years halloween party at our favorite swing club they allowed single guys in on saturday night.my wife was wearing a ghost type outfit and sashaying around when an idiot decided it was ok to grab her ass well he was told if he did it again i would throw him down the stairs and we were downstairs.now granted there were other males there that did not act out of line and i do believe one of them joined us later.so go out do not be pushy say hi and see what happens but when some one says no let it go as that is not their thing or they just do not find you to their liking.
I do read the profiles, and I am a good guy. I think it is a little strange that when this topic comes up. The majority of the people that post on it are people that won't swing with single males. For what ever reason they have. Most guys are assholes, I have been i my share of bar fights. I have even wound up in a hospital a couple times. I was at college at a party in an appartment building. Across the street there was a party at my brothers girlfriends apartment. I stopped ove to say hi. Her roomate got a huge smile on her face and ran to me giving me a big hug. I asked Where my brothers girlfriend was. She said she went home for the week end. As I was walking back to the other party Three guys circled me. One of them was the roomates girlfriend. Long story short I needed fourteen stiches above my right eye and eight below it. As for her boy friend He wound up needing sugery. There was one night i was at a bar waiting for a drink. A female walked up beside me waiting for a drink. While we waited we talked. She was smiling and laughing. The next thing I know a guy grabbed me by my shoulder and tried to turn me around. When He realized is was bigger than he was he walked away. The girl told me she was sorry and they left. Where are all the couples that like to swing with single males? Why haven't they posted and gave some reasons they do it?
I wasn't making talk about bar fights, and it certainly wasn't that he talked to my wife, for if he had asked before grabbing she normally says go for it, it was that he took it upon himself to help himself. As far as our playing with single males we do it because the wife enjoys it so therefore it is her show and she picks who she wants and doesn't want. She also decides what acts gets done. In some experiences the single guy has decided that he would be running the show and tried to exclude me from the equation, needless to say he hasn't been invited back.
Phil
Phil
Please, As one single male to another, give it a rest. Because frankly the more you post the deeper the hole your digging. They've heard it all before and it gets old.
OMG, Can't someone just shoot this topic and put it out of its misery....
PUHLEASE.... D-R-O-P I-T!
PUHLEASE.... D-R-O-P I-T!
Hey FUN4USXX2001 Well said... I volunteer to shoot it...LOL
Hey D & T...I shoot first....And if T wants she can cock it for me...
Hey what about me, who's going to cock mine?
There will be plenty on of cocking at the party!!!!! You will be taken care of... 
Whoo hoo!!! It's nice to know you have my back baby ......
Amen brother Amen ....
HIGHWAY1, I wasn't comparing your situation to mine. I was sharing expierences I've had in public stituations. And it automatically assumed that your or anybodies wife has final say. But, as you can see by the last couple posts. I do believe if we were in a bar I'ld be surronded by a couple assholoes. And like I said before a couple times throughout this thread. If you don't swing with single males fine. I posted this thread to find out more about what single females and couples that do think. In my expectations I thought that in order to swing with people in general. Everyone involved would have the type of relationship with eachother, where they care for eachother. Not to the exten you care for your partner. But the way you would help a friend out when they come to a bad way. And I'm not even talking about sex. HIGHWAT1 thank you I do appreciate your advice.
Ok this post is a bit rediculous but because the "author" of this post is the insecure single male the one that has put the bad rep on all of the other single males I (personally) dont see it getting laid to rest like it needed to be before it got this long. As I see it if we (the couples) wants a single male we will contact that specific person but I (the Mrs.) can gurantee that I would never choose a whinning piece of shit like Justin the one that can't even keep on track. What the hell does bar fights or working in restaurants or what ever else he said have to do with any of this thread.Reading his threads was really a waste of my time that I will never get back.
Just one more opinion on one really stupid thread
Mrs B
Just one more opinion on one really stupid thread
Mrs B
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Thank you NEWCPL99. As for BRADB, if you were able to pay attention, which you weren't. I was giving people that read this thread examples about how hard it is to make friends. Being open about living in the life style. Which has everything to do with this topic and this site. I mean why would anyone come not looking to make friends. And people like you make that next to impossible. I have read everyone of the threads here and Some of you people were done right mean and ignorant. Instead of getting threads Like the ones from HIGHWAY1, HOLLY_WOULD and NWECPL99. That gave advice and told me what they look for when picking a single male. Most of the threads were from people saying why single males were such assholes. If you don't swing with single males then you have no reason to post to this thread.
Newcpl99...We agree with you...it is all about personal preferences. End of story...end of subject...
Justin-First of all...you are right...we dont swing with single men. However, we do have a right to respond to a subject and state our opinion on how we feel about it. We have nothing against single guys and their pursuit of pleasure in the lifestyle. However...do you not get it?? This thread has been beaten to death!!! We get the fact that you wont pursue anything if a profile says "not interested in single males"...we get the fact that you are looking for that right lady that you can share the lifestyle with. Do you not get it that 99.99% of the people are sick of this topic for now and that you are making yourself look foolish?? Not to say that you are foolish...you are probably a very respectable and decent man...however, LET IT GO!! And everyone else...LET IT GO!!! I assure you that in a couple of weeks or a month or so, somebody else will bring the topic up again. This same thread has been going on now forever and a day. For crying out loud, how many different ways can the same thing be said over and over again???
Justin, you have made your point and everyone else has made theirs. At this point, our advice to you is, again, LET IT GO!!
Mr. Fun
Justin-First of all...you are right...we dont swing with single men. However, we do have a right to respond to a subject and state our opinion on how we feel about it. We have nothing against single guys and their pursuit of pleasure in the lifestyle. However...do you not get it?? This thread has been beaten to death!!! We get the fact that you wont pursue anything if a profile says "not interested in single males"...we get the fact that you are looking for that right lady that you can share the lifestyle with. Do you not get it that 99.99% of the people are sick of this topic for now and that you are making yourself look foolish?? Not to say that you are foolish...you are probably a very respectable and decent man...however, LET IT GO!! And everyone else...LET IT GO!!! I assure you that in a couple of weeks or a month or so, somebody else will bring the topic up again. This same thread has been going on now forever and a day. For crying out loud, how many different ways can the same thing be said over and over again???
Justin, you have made your point and everyone else has made theirs. At this point, our advice to you is, again, LET IT GO!!
Mr. Fun