the ratio is overwhelmingly high in couples 'out right' asking for single male not respond verses asking single females please respond. is this [more oft] discomfort on the males part or more desire on the males part [to enjoy more women]
Single guys are a dime a dozen, and most of them are not the type of person we are looking for. We find it quite easy to find a single guy to play with, if we want to, so why ask for it?
Ou experiences are that MOST single men are asses...They are NOT swingers, they are searching for an easy piece of ass...AND we like single men...Just hard to find a good one...
Another contributing factor is as you said...Men are insecure...and they do not want to have another man "servicing" their wife/GF/Significant Other when they have no one to play with...
Just HIS opinion...
Another contributing factor is as you said...Men are insecure...and they do not want to have another man "servicing" their wife/GF/Significant Other when they have no one to play with...
Just HIS opinion...
WHEW!!! Tough for us guys .....
I think most men have frequent fantasies about seeing another man (especially a well hung one) screwing their wives, (I know I do). As JSTJIM said, they don't know how to act when it is actually happening. It's a tangled web we weave, isn't it? LOL
What if the decision for "No single males" had nothing to do with the desires of the male?
The couples who are looking for single women, most often the woman is bi and wants to play with a woman and a man. So another bi woman fits nicely into that mix. like stated, that has nothing to do with the males decision. (I would bet that when male bisexuality is present, they have a hard time finding a single bi male as well, just a guess though, maybe some of the bi guys can chime in on that one)
I think the perception is that many single guys that hover around the lifestyle are simply average Joes who are looking to get laid with no strings and see the lifestyle women as easy targets. So, the supply of single guys is rather plentiful. And horny guys looking for an easy score are just not all that hot.
Women, if they are looking to get laid....get laid, pretty much whenever wherever they want, and if they want no strings......then most guys will oblige them, so they need not seek out a group of people that are also out for just recreational sex. So when a single girl gets involved in the lifestyle, it is usually because she is bisexual and wants the same no strings attached sexual encounters and understands the lifestyle, its nuances, etiquette and happenings and are a much rarer commodity. And there are very few things sexier than a woman who is comfortable sexually.
Then there is the whole other dynamic of "single male" who are actually married looking to get laid, again with no strings (and therefore little chance of being caught).
So, often times (we know of many couples) who do play with single men but do not advertise it on their profile. But they know who to look for, because the single guys who ARE legitimate lifestylers, those polite, discreet gentlemen who take good care of themselves and know what it is all about are just almost as rare as the vaunted unicorn.
I think the perception is that many single guys that hover around the lifestyle are simply average Joes who are looking to get laid with no strings and see the lifestyle women as easy targets. So, the supply of single guys is rather plentiful. And horny guys looking for an easy score are just not all that hot.
Women, if they are looking to get laid....get laid, pretty much whenever wherever they want, and if they want no strings......then most guys will oblige them, so they need not seek out a group of people that are also out for just recreational sex. So when a single girl gets involved in the lifestyle, it is usually because she is bisexual and wants the same no strings attached sexual encounters and understands the lifestyle, its nuances, etiquette and happenings and are a much rarer commodity. And there are very few things sexier than a woman who is comfortable sexually.
Then there is the whole other dynamic of "single male" who are actually married looking to get laid, again with no strings (and therefore little chance of being caught).
So, often times (we know of many couples) who do play with single men but do not advertise it on their profile. But they know who to look for, because the single guys who ARE legitimate lifestylers, those polite, discreet gentlemen who take good care of themselves and know what it is all about are just almost as rare as the vaunted unicorn.
Well said CNKISS. As for me and mrs., neither of us are interested in a mmf threesome. We have nothing against them, it's just not something we are looking for. For us, it's not that we don't like single males, we just don't any place for them to play in our playbook.
Our take on things is this: What can a single male possibly be worth if he can't find and bring along a female of his own? No need to reward losers that can't find a girlfriend of their own.
A respectful single male can provide alot of fun for couples. INTENSE, do you hold that argument for a single girl who can't find a girlfriend?
I can say this is all true, however, if you are a respectful single male and get in the right circle you will find that couples not looking for single males will contact you. I have made lots of friends and have been invited to parties as a single male after alot of proving of myself to be respectful and honest. The one thing I must say is that you need to be straight forward and not act a fool. From my experince you will have alot of fun once you become established. Have fun, take care and my all your fantasies come true. T
oh man dont get me started well lets just stick with the couples thing for now
i know we are open to most anything wife has played alone and so has hubby but we find it more enjoyable if we both can play such and swaping
In our experience we have found, single females, married females, single males and married males ALL have the capability of being asses, so its not JUST single males who are asses.
The reason most single males can't find a single female is that women for the most part don't feel free to express their sexual needs and desires like a male does. Not because they don't want to, but for the most part society looks down on them as a tramp, where a man who is doing the same thing is considered a stud.
So there just aren't as many females out there who are available like the guys are.
We like all aspects, single male or female and couples......
But in answer to the forum, the reason most couples are looking for single females or couples is because most women in the lifestyle are bi and want the experience of the woman as well as the man. If that is their primary desire, well thats their primary desire LOL.
The reason most single males can't find a single female is that women for the most part don't feel free to express their sexual needs and desires like a male does. Not because they don't want to, but for the most part society looks down on them as a tramp, where a man who is doing the same thing is considered a stud.
So there just aren't as many females out there who are available like the guys are.
We like all aspects, single male or female and couples......
But in answer to the forum, the reason most couples are looking for single females or couples is because most women in the lifestyle are bi and want the experience of the woman as well as the man. If that is their primary desire, well thats their primary desire LOL.
I was a single guy for a while. The difference for me was that I was out having fun with my friends. The fact that we were all swingers didnt make having sex a necessity. As a matter of fact, if youre a single guy in the lifestyle for a long period of time then you are probably doing something wrong. I met Holly in the lifestyle and we were both singles. We hit it off and now we play together as a couple. I hear the single guy compliants about lifestyle and ask myself 'Why would you bother?'. Its not for everyone. If you arent successful, maybe thats lifes way of tell you to try another road. You obviously arent very respectful of other people choices about their preferences within the lifestyle. Respect is everything in lifestyle.
***From the female side of this couple***
To the gentleman that started this thread. If you want to know why most people dont want single guys, you only have to look at your profile to know why. Seriously.
***From the female side of this couple***
To the gentleman that started this thread. If you want to know why most people dont want single guys, you only have to look at your profile to know why. Seriously.
We havent had a lot of experience with single males or single females....or 3somes all together, really......however, the one time that we did show interest in a single male for my pleasure (Mrs. Stitch typen) we had a really bad experience in finding one that was honest with why he was in this lifestyle all together. When we found a male we were interested in and we met up for some fun...the fun happened and after we found out the truth of his reality...and that was that his WIFE didnt put out at all, and he was really a married man with 3 small children looken for sex without strings. NOw the "sex without strings" thing is not what bothered me, however, the wife and 3 small children thing bothered me a great deal for very long time after that night. We (hubby and I) were both really upset by it, and wasnt looken for an experience that contributed to someone getting really hurt, and lied to. Sad thing is, we still see him lingering on the websites for swingers and being quite active in the lifestyle.
I realize that just the bad actions of one single male doesnt mean that all single males are the same.....we also realize that there are probably some single women that are also cheating as well. After that bad experience we both decided that if we wanted a 3some experience it would have to be with ppl that we knew and trusted and really knew their life story. We decided that we wanted to just meet some fun couples and stick with married, stable couples that are looking for the same fun as we are.
We dont ever want to contribute to breaking up a marriage and hurting someone else, we just want to have fun!!!
I realize that just the bad actions of one single male doesnt mean that all single males are the same.....we also realize that there are probably some single women that are also cheating as well. After that bad experience we both decided that if we wanted a 3some experience it would have to be with ppl that we knew and trusted and really knew their life story. We decided that we wanted to just meet some fun couples and stick with married, stable couples that are looking for the same fun as we are.
We dont ever want to contribute to breaking up a marriage and hurting someone else, we just want to have fun!!!
'if i am asked 'is the glass half full or half empty', i then investigate to find out if the glass was empty and then poured half full or had the glass been full and drank half empty. I am a realist.'
my inference was to the numbers i've seen here on this site. i have had to turn down offers by the female in the couple in the past because the male of the couple was not comfortable sharing his female and yet the female of the couple had shared him in past encounters. one of those couples later broke up and i felt bad that i helped bring to light their miscommunication.
i am a realist
my inference was to the numbers i've seen here on this site. i have had to turn down offers by the female in the couple in the past because the male of the couple was not comfortable sharing his female and yet the female of the couple had shared him in past encounters. one of those couples later broke up and i felt bad that i helped bring to light their miscommunication.
i am a realist
Reply to CNKISS
Yes, we generally shy away from 'unattached' females as well. Our past experience with them has been less than desirable. We haven't yet met ONE single female that didn't bring along a baggage cart loaded with drama and/or significant psychological issues.
To be perfectly honest, we have had some good experiences at private parties where single males were allowed to attend. Unfortunately, those times have been extremely rare. Therefore we choose to limit our contacts to couples (M/F), with very few exceptions.
Yes, we generally shy away from 'unattached' females as well. Our past experience with them has been less than desirable. We haven't yet met ONE single female that didn't bring along a baggage cart loaded with drama and/or significant psychological issues.
To be perfectly honest, we have had some good experiences at private parties where single males were allowed to attend. Unfortunately, those times have been extremely rare. Therefore we choose to limit our contacts to couples (M/F), with very few exceptions.
Whatever happened to honesty, please. I think people poison lifestyle relationships for a number of reasons; the first being deceit. You get the respect you give. Apparently males have not given the lifestyle nor the people enjoying it a reason for them to respect or trust us.
There will always be fools, idiots and cheaters in any part of life. The internet and swinging are certainly no exceptions, and; in some cases, the internet actually adds a few people to that list because they can hide in a dark room while they lie to you.
I have been in 2 3sums in 20 years. Those relationships each lasted a long time. They both started out as friendships and grew better when we decided to share our sexual relationships.
If a single male contributes to a relationship he is genuine. If not, he is just another fool, idiot, or cheater. Genuine males are out here my friends, you just have to scrape away a lot of dirt before you find the buried treasure.
There will always be fools, idiots and cheaters in any part of life. The internet and swinging are certainly no exceptions, and; in some cases, the internet actually adds a few people to that list because they can hide in a dark room while they lie to you.
I have been in 2 3sums in 20 years. Those relationships each lasted a long time. They both started out as friendships and grew better when we decided to share our sexual relationships.
If a single male contributes to a relationship he is genuine. If not, he is just another fool, idiot, or cheater. Genuine males are out here my friends, you just have to scrape away a lot of dirt before you find the buried treasure.
Thank God I'm not a single male anymore. My ex and I were in the lifestyle as a couple, but when we seperated it was hard for me...in more ways than one..... to meet with couples. What I did was found a single woman on the site I was listed on and we met with other couples as a couple or alone. We had no committment to each other. We were just playmates. Most people do think that single men are just out for a piece of ass and in most cases thats true. Moral of the story single men......if you want to get laid, find a playmate. It's easier with no attachment.:i
hmmm single males not being able to get a girlfriend. we have had a few single males (we usally pick them of course) we have found that alot of single males just work alot and dont really have the time to put into finding a relationship or the time to actually have the relationship. just a thought
my work week consist of 12 hour days , 7 days a week, 6 months of the year. and this does seem to confuse my 'love' relationships during the summer but.......... my 6 month long weekend in the winters then helps my 'love' relationships. being a give and take world i feel i do better than break even. and in this now modern world the woman's excessive work schedule interrupts her relationships as well as the 'working' male.
Couples4Friends (incidentally I went to USF and spent many nights drinking in TT), you make very valid points in your comments here; but your "looking for" profile really says it all. Most people are upfront in "what they want" because they have seen the other kind of people that are attracted to the swinging lifestyle and want to avoid them.
Some males feel the same way and just want to avoid some of the same kind of people that hang out around here too. This includes pushy, gross, "I want to get laid", arrogant males. Me, I want to meet partners that I feel I can be friends with and enjoy them over a period of time.
I don't care if you are single, a couple, a pair or whatever. We all know who our counterparts are versus those people we don't usually associate with.
Many males are nice guys, just as I am sure there are many nices ladies too. And, there are an equal number of not-so-nice people here too. You can't cast a broad net as to peoples' motivations when you seek others to meet in our lifestyle.
Some males feel the same way and just want to avoid some of the same kind of people that hang out around here too. This includes pushy, gross, "I want to get laid", arrogant males. Me, I want to meet partners that I feel I can be friends with and enjoy them over a period of time.
I don't care if you are single, a couple, a pair or whatever. We all know who our counterparts are versus those people we don't usually associate with.
Many males are nice guys, just as I am sure there are many nices ladies too. And, there are an equal number of not-so-nice people here too. You can't cast a broad net as to peoples' motivations when you seek others to meet in our lifestyle.
Wow realsex you are so wrong on so many front. First off the CDC statistics are based on populations of men in large metroploitan areas and it does not differentiate between men SINGLE OR OTHERWISE and is actually a compliation of reported statistics.
Sexually Transmitted Diseases/STD
(Data are for U.S. for year indicated)
Morbidity
Number of new syphilis cases: 34,270 (2003)
New syphilis cases per 100,000 population: 11.9 (2003)
Number of new chlamydia cases: 877,478 (2003)
New chlamydia cases per 100,000 population: 304.3 (2003)
Number of new gonorrhea cases: 335,104 (2003)
New gonorrhea cases per 100,000 population:116.2 (2003)
Source: Health United States: 2005, table 51
Related links
National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention: Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases
Secondly Swinging as a "lifestyle" was never invented for couples. actually it was never invented to begin with. It does however have its roots going back to primative tribes as a practice necessary for preservation of the species an example ould be the inhabitants of pollinesia prior to Capt. Cook.
Single men do have something to contribute so keep an open mind
Sexually Transmitted Diseases/STD
(Data are for U.S. for year indicated)
Morbidity
Number of new syphilis cases: 34,270 (2003)
New syphilis cases per 100,000 population: 11.9 (2003)
Number of new chlamydia cases: 877,478 (2003)
New chlamydia cases per 100,000 population: 304.3 (2003)
Number of new gonorrhea cases: 335,104 (2003)
New gonorrhea cases per 100,000 population:116.2 (2003)
Source: Health United States: 2005, table 51
Related links
National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention: Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases
Secondly Swinging as a "lifestyle" was never invented for couples. actually it was never invented to begin with. It does however have its roots going back to primative tribes as a practice necessary for preservation of the species an example ould be the inhabitants of pollinesia prior to Capt. Cook.
Single men do have something to contribute so keep an open mind
R_SPALD01...We looked at your profile and we were wondering who is the 'us' that you talk about in your profile. "if you are interested then please drop us a note and Ipromise that I'll get back to you." See its this kind of thing that always makes us wonder and coincidently, dont bother with the whole single guy thing. When we translate that, it either means thats there's a wife somewhere that doesnt have a clue whats going on or that you have multiple personalities. BTW...I guarentee that the CDC tracks many criteria including relationship status and single males lead the pack by huge margin in all age groups for STDs. Know your facts.
OK, here are the facts as we see them. Every, that means all without one exception, of the single males we've ever had the displeasure to meet was nothing more than some guy you could find 15 of in every bar in every town in the country. They had one thing on their mind and that was sex. Somehow, somewhere, someone told them that swinger women were horny and all you had to do was show up and you were sure to get laid. The big attraction in swinging was they thought all they had to do was show up, they would be a guaranteed minority and therefore in demand. Hell, they have to work at to get laid when they're in competition with the other 14 back at the bar.
Without fail, the single males we've met have been arrogant, lying bastards. Our very first experience was with one who thought that his partner who had no interest in swinging whatsoever could be foisted off on the male half of a couple while he got his happys with the female. Once that was accomplished he was such a stud (in his own mind) that he would just trade up to the female that he'd driven crazy with enjoyment. He was looking to break up a marriage so that he could find a partner who would participate since his current partner wouldn't. Well, when we pointed out that his partner wasn't interested and would not participate, that made him for all intents and purposes a single male he just wouldn't hear it. Kept trying to force the couples issue not knowing that we'd heard through mutual friends that his partner was never going to participate and if he didn't stop she was leaving him. The man was relelntless, called my wife multiple times a day at work and at times when he thought I wasn't around. Never once in his arrogance did he think she was telling me all about it and we're asking each other what we were going to do to get rid of him. I had to threaten the guy. Not the current All-American male threat - I'll sue you - but the tried and true I rip your head off and sh*t down your neck. Took two threats before this ass realized I was serious and disappeared. Now you think an experience like that won't runi you opinion of single males as a class?
We've met more than a few after that. Every one of them lived down to our expectations within minutes. The last one used a fake Australian accent to convince us he was only in FL infrequently and would love to join us when he was. When we came home I showed my wife his profile right here on Swingular. He isn't Australian and he lives about 15 miles from us. If you lie right off the bat about who you are and where you live, how can I believe you when you say you don't have an STD? Given our past experiences why would we ever be willing to trust any single male? Is that generalization? Sure, but when your own sample of experiences have all been consistently bad then why would increasing the sample size make any difference?
Why would any couple want to meet with some guy whose idea of originality was to send you an email that says, "Hey baby, you got great tits! Why don't we meet tonight and I show you what a real man can do!" or the ever-popular and more succinct, "Let's get together tonight and fuck!"? Isn't that the swinger equivalent of the single guy in a bar walking up and asking a woman, "Hey baby, come here often?"? Guess it never ocurrs to some of these geniuses that in a couple the male half may read the email and know he doesn't have great tits and want to be taught what a real man can do for him?
Without fail, the single males we've met have been arrogant, lying bastards. Our very first experience was with one who thought that his partner who had no interest in swinging whatsoever could be foisted off on the male half of a couple while he got his happys with the female. Once that was accomplished he was such a stud (in his own mind) that he would just trade up to the female that he'd driven crazy with enjoyment. He was looking to break up a marriage so that he could find a partner who would participate since his current partner wouldn't. Well, when we pointed out that his partner wasn't interested and would not participate, that made him for all intents and purposes a single male he just wouldn't hear it. Kept trying to force the couples issue not knowing that we'd heard through mutual friends that his partner was never going to participate and if he didn't stop she was leaving him. The man was relelntless, called my wife multiple times a day at work and at times when he thought I wasn't around. Never once in his arrogance did he think she was telling me all about it and we're asking each other what we were going to do to get rid of him. I had to threaten the guy. Not the current All-American male threat - I'll sue you - but the tried and true I rip your head off and sh*t down your neck. Took two threats before this ass realized I was serious and disappeared. Now you think an experience like that won't runi you opinion of single males as a class?
We've met more than a few after that. Every one of them lived down to our expectations within minutes. The last one used a fake Australian accent to convince us he was only in FL infrequently and would love to join us when he was. When we came home I showed my wife his profile right here on Swingular. He isn't Australian and he lives about 15 miles from us. If you lie right off the bat about who you are and where you live, how can I believe you when you say you don't have an STD? Given our past experiences why would we ever be willing to trust any single male? Is that generalization? Sure, but when your own sample of experiences have all been consistently bad then why would increasing the sample size make any difference?
Why would any couple want to meet with some guy whose idea of originality was to send you an email that says, "Hey baby, you got great tits! Why don't we meet tonight and I show you what a real man can do!" or the ever-popular and more succinct, "Let's get together tonight and fuck!"? Isn't that the swinger equivalent of the single guy in a bar walking up and asking a woman, "Hey baby, come here often?"? Guess it never ocurrs to some of these geniuses that in a couple the male half may read the email and know he doesn't have great tits and want to be taught what a real man can do for him?
Well For what its worth here is my two cents. I am a married male that would like to particpate in a threesome. I am bi and as you might imagine its a taboo in my home and it apperas equally taboo to be bi and married in the swinging world. I was at first hopeful to find a nice couple where I could freely and safely express both sides of my sexuality or even one. As it turns out in about a years time I have not connected. A few very nice people have given me sincere and honest replies of not interested. Each has my respect. However I have come to the conclusion it is time for me to take my name from the sight. No hard feeling on my part. I really did not have any understanding of the lfe stlye when I found this site. I envy you who are free to express themselves sexually. My respect and regards to all
Pat
Pat
Allright everybody, now settle down. I guess this debate will go on forever. I didn't figure on the amount of angst I would find around here. Chill please.
As for single men spreading serious disease like HIV, the CDC has been tracking data about bisexual MEN having SEX with other MEN (MSM). They are the ones responsible for the transfer of HIV to heterosexuals. It has been going on since AID's was an emergent disease in the early 80's.
One thing to think about in this regard is the number of bisexual men who are married and have been having MSM sex. They are the main HIV vectors because they are in the closet re: their bisexuality to their wives and are not dealing with the impact they are having on others, or they just are too stupid to understand what they are doing.
Remember to be careful, care about your partner(s) and practice safe sex...R
As for single men spreading serious disease like HIV, the CDC has been tracking data about bisexual MEN having SEX with other MEN (MSM). They are the ones responsible for the transfer of HIV to heterosexuals. It has been going on since AID's was an emergent disease in the early 80's.
One thing to think about in this regard is the number of bisexual men who are married and have been having MSM sex. They are the main HIV vectors because they are in the closet re: their bisexuality to their wives and are not dealing with the impact they are having on others, or they just are too stupid to understand what they are doing.
Remember to be careful, care about your partner(s) and practice safe sex...R
Althought it's important to note that it's primarily bisexual men that participate in unprotected ANAL sex who are responsible for the transmission of HIV into the heterosexual population. Unprotected anal sex (male or female) is the best route for HIV transfer due to the propensity for direct contact with blood from tears in the delicate tissues.
For the record, I'm NOT bisexual, nor will I ever be.
-brian (and sherrie)
For the record, I'm NOT bisexual, nor will I ever be.
-brian (and sherrie)
That is true, Brian. Don't forget that blood-to-blood contact is the principal transmission mode for hepatitis C also.
I guess what I was trying to say earlier was; if one of your male players is bisexual, (whether or not his wife/girlfriend was aware of it), and HAS had male anal sex, he would be a prime suspect for HIV transmission into a heterosexual group thru swapping..
thanks for your input...and have a good nite all...Ron
I guess what I was trying to say earlier was; if one of your male players is bisexual, (whether or not his wife/girlfriend was aware of it), and HAS had male anal sex, he would be a prime suspect for HIV transmission into a heterosexual group thru swapping..
thanks for your input...and have a good nite all...Ron
REALSEX4U...You finally wound down. Did you run out of paper? :-) You guys must have really had some bad experiences. Please don't count me in the group of run-down, moronic, slathering-drunk, salivating males you describe. I am an innocent here.
Hang on, I feel so dirty now; I have to shower.
Honestly, I didn't know there were sooo many creepy guys out here (or there). I most always think the rest of the world embraces my value set and are not creeps, until I find out otherwise. (which is not a good thing)
But, what would we have to discuss if some schmuck didn't give us the topic...
You have done your homework on communicable diseases except genital warts. The human papillomavirus (HPV) causes the common wart or verruca vulgaris. This is the same virus that causes genital warts which leads to dysplasia (appearance of abnormal cells on the surface of the cervix) and cervical cancer.
I really am a nice guy, but I hesitate to say more.
Hang on, I feel so dirty now; I have to shower.
Honestly, I didn't know there were sooo many creepy guys out here (or there). I most always think the rest of the world embraces my value set and are not creeps, until I find out otherwise. (which is not a good thing)
But, what would we have to discuss if some schmuck didn't give us the topic...
You have done your homework on communicable diseases except genital warts. The human papillomavirus (HPV) causes the common wart or verruca vulgaris. This is the same virus that causes genital warts which leads to dysplasia (appearance of abnormal cells on the surface of the cervix) and cervical cancer.
I really am a nice guy, but I hesitate to say more.
WHAT A CROCK!!!!!!
We entertain single men...AND we do NOT fall into any one of your previously mentioned categories...
What it boils down to is this...WHATEVER YOU ENJOY...
To blame single males for STD's is ludacris AT BEST...Like HIV/AIDS is a gay male thing...What a crock of shit...If you were as educated as you just claimed, you would KNOW that is not true...The spread of STD's is from just as previously stated, UNPROTECTED SEX...Not bi males, not gay males, not swingers, not anything but UNPROTECTED SEX....
YES...there are asshole single men who think that swinging is about an easy piece of ass, but to claim they are all that way is simply an asshole trying to stereotype someone...Next thing you know...Black guys have big dicks, white guys can't jump, Jewish people are cheap, etc will be spewing from your keyboard...I cannot believe this utter nonsense....
As to entertaining single men...We do for one simple reason...WE WANT TO!!!!!!
Think of this dumbass...How many people did you date before you found a woman stupid enough to put up with your shit for any length of time? I see...I am sure it took you a while...
Now...Look at this...How can you ENSURE you will make a friend with anyone? LIMIT the number of people...IT is MUCH easier to connect with a single than a couple...Why, you may ask? Think back to dating or as simple as making a friend...Was it easier to make a friend who was part of a group? or perhaps it was easier when they were also alone and without a friend? Hmmmm.....NOW, add to it the fact that there are so many asshole men married to women who have learned to put up with it...Hmmmmmmm....
NOW you can see why we play with singles....
We entertain single men...AND we do NOT fall into any one of your previously mentioned categories...
What it boils down to is this...WHATEVER YOU ENJOY...
To blame single males for STD's is ludacris AT BEST...Like HIV/AIDS is a gay male thing...What a crock of shit...If you were as educated as you just claimed, you would KNOW that is not true...The spread of STD's is from just as previously stated, UNPROTECTED SEX...Not bi males, not gay males, not swingers, not anything but UNPROTECTED SEX....
YES...there are asshole single men who think that swinging is about an easy piece of ass, but to claim they are all that way is simply an asshole trying to stereotype someone...Next thing you know...Black guys have big dicks, white guys can't jump, Jewish people are cheap, etc will be spewing from your keyboard...I cannot believe this utter nonsense....
As to entertaining single men...We do for one simple reason...WE WANT TO!!!!!!
Think of this dumbass...How many people did you date before you found a woman stupid enough to put up with your shit for any length of time? I see...I am sure it took you a while...
Now...Look at this...How can you ENSURE you will make a friend with anyone? LIMIT the number of people...IT is MUCH easier to connect with a single than a couple...Why, you may ask? Think back to dating or as simple as making a friend...Was it easier to make a friend who was part of a group? or perhaps it was easier when they were also alone and without a friend? Hmmmm.....NOW, add to it the fact that there are so many asshole men married to women who have learned to put up with it...Hmmmmmmm....
NOW you can see why we play with singles....
Ahhhh...Educated?
"just past us by" hmmmm...that seems educated...Yes it is...4th grade....So thats where you are educationally?
Whatever...You show pictures of your genitals, you show pictures of your wifes vagina dripping with semen, you also claim to be surgically safe....Hmmmm...Did they come out with a surgery that removes STD's from the body? Did not think so....
I would love to stay and argue with you and your educated opinions, but I have more important things to do, like...ummmmmmm...anything that you are not involved with...I believe that works for us...Yes, indeed it does....
IN fact...Take a look at CDC's website...NO it is NOT single or HOMOSEXUAL/BISEXUAL men who are the greatest risk...It is YOUNG WOMEN...and isn't that what MOST couples are looking for?
OOOOPS...Bi/Homo men ARE the leaders in the Syphilis (sp?) category...My bad...
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/default.htm
"just past us by" hmmmm...that seems educated...Yes it is...4th grade....So thats where you are educationally?
Whatever...You show pictures of your genitals, you show pictures of your wifes vagina dripping with semen, you also claim to be surgically safe....Hmmmm...Did they come out with a surgery that removes STD's from the body? Did not think so....
I would love to stay and argue with you and your educated opinions, but I have more important things to do, like...ummmmmmm...anything that you are not involved with...I believe that works for us...Yes, indeed it does....
IN fact...Take a look at CDC's website...NO it is NOT single or HOMOSEXUAL/BISEXUAL men who are the greatest risk...It is YOUNG WOMEN...and isn't that what MOST couples are looking for?
OOOOPS...Bi/Homo men ARE the leaders in the Syphilis (sp?) category...My bad...
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/default.htm
i am not sure of his definition of 'schmuck' as he referred to me.
i asked a question related to the statistics as per this site's members. the unusual seemingly non relative comments i read in response to my question commences me to wonder even more to the honesty of swinging amongst many of the couples; do one or the other within the realationship only partake as to please the others desire to have sex with others. does one use the guise of swinging only with females because the male is jealous of his female with another penis.
if there was no fear of the partner hearing/reading of the others feelings/thoughts on this subject, would some or many of the female's [and possibly male's] view be different because of honesty not shared affront their partner.
the idea of couples were perhaps not created by religion but they are empowered by organized religion. so what is your controlled definition of swinging.
as for diseases, males [single or not] as to females [single or not] could,can and or do make mistakes. however one chooses to control the possible contracting and or spreading of diseases is a personal responsibility and no statistics anywhere could be honestly applicable .
p.s. before you rag on my spelling. my coined spelling and meaning for real'-a-tion-ship; n. an openly honest relation betwixt two or more entities
i asked a question related to the statistics as per this site's members. the unusual seemingly non relative comments i read in response to my question commences me to wonder even more to the honesty of swinging amongst many of the couples; do one or the other within the realationship only partake as to please the others desire to have sex with others. does one use the guise of swinging only with females because the male is jealous of his female with another penis.
if there was no fear of the partner hearing/reading of the others feelings/thoughts on this subject, would some or many of the female's [and possibly male's] view be different because of honesty not shared affront their partner.
the idea of couples were perhaps not created by religion but they are empowered by organized religion. so what is your controlled definition of swinging.
as for diseases, males [single or not] as to females [single or not] could,can and or do make mistakes. however one chooses to control the possible contracting and or spreading of diseases is a personal responsibility and no statistics anywhere could be honestly applicable .
p.s. before you rag on my spelling. my coined spelling and meaning for real'-a-tion-ship; n. an openly honest relation betwixt two or more entities
definition by webster SCHMUCK n. Yiddish shmok , penis
you are correct i do have a penis
you are correct i do have a penis
SLCWanderlust, thank you for the breath of fresh air. I was beginning to feel bad with all the negative comments being thrown around here.
Mad_Come_Dali - I apoligize if I labeled you. I was searching for a generic word there.
SLCWanderlust, don't you worry about Ms Negative there. She can list all the statistics she wants to support any position she wants to take, and it is just so much hot air in the long run.
Following the advice "know your partners partners" is the safest way to have sex today; in addition to wearing condoms. Knowing who your sexual friends have been having sex with, and limiting your fun to that group will give you some level of comfort that you are protecting yourself. Of course, your partners/partners have to be trustworthy too.
Everyone is free to form their own opinions and voice them as long as they understand they don't have a right to dictate what other people do; or try to overwhelm them with personal insults. Realsex4u just seems a little too into herself to discuss sensitive topics without losing her temper.
After awhile, that attitude just tunes other people out completely.
Mad_Come_Dali - I apoligize if I labeled you. I was searching for a generic word there.
SLCWanderlust, don't you worry about Ms Negative there. She can list all the statistics she wants to support any position she wants to take, and it is just so much hot air in the long run.
Following the advice "know your partners partners" is the safest way to have sex today; in addition to wearing condoms. Knowing who your sexual friends have been having sex with, and limiting your fun to that group will give you some level of comfort that you are protecting yourself. Of course, your partners/partners have to be trustworthy too.
Everyone is free to form their own opinions and voice them as long as they understand they don't have a right to dictate what other people do; or try to overwhelm them with personal insults. Realsex4u just seems a little too into herself to discuss sensitive topics without losing her temper.
After awhile, that attitude just tunes other people out completely.
SLCWanderlust! You guys be careful out there. I imagine that Utah must be awash in diseased perverts by now.
Why people always complicate things is beyond me? Aren't we already stressed enough with our everyday problems without finding it necessay to fillet each other on open forums.
Ya'll drop me a line sometime and we can compare notes between who is the biggest group of perverts and disease bearing swingers.
Thanks for the conversation...Ron
Why people always complicate things is beyond me? Aren't we already stressed enough with our everyday problems without finding it necessay to fillet each other on open forums.
Ya'll drop me a line sometime and we can compare notes between who is the biggest group of perverts and disease bearing swingers.
Thanks for the conversation...Ron
This is an email we received from someone on another site:
43 yo mwm, play with and without bifem playmate. travel to your area on biz. can we explore? pics available, if you'd like. just reply here with another email addy and i'll forward them. hope to hear, thanks. r
Our profile on that site is long and detailed, explaining that we're specifically not interested in meeting single males, and especially not interested in meeting with cheating spouses. This brainiac obviously did NOT read our profile before sending out an email. Why do you single males act like this?
43 yo mwm, play with and without bifem playmate. travel to your area on biz. can we explore? pics available, if you'd like. just reply here with another email addy and i'll forward them. hope to hear, thanks. r
Our profile on that site is long and detailed, explaining that we're specifically not interested in meeting single males, and especially not interested in meeting with cheating spouses. This brainiac obviously did NOT read our profile before sending out an email. Why do you single males act like this?
yes you may be able categorize me as a single male but to stereo type me as you have is not only incorrect but also wrong. just as it would be wrong for me to stereo type the responders of this thread.
As a single male, I feel I must put my 2 cents in.
I've personally heard some horror stories from some couples in dealing with single males. First, we are not all assholes. For instance, I always respond to all my emails with tact and class, even though sometimes you may not like what I have to say. I prefer to get to know a woman and perhaps seduce them. Sticking my dick in a woman, one minute after I meet her, doesn't appeal to me.
Secondly, i'm reading about all kind of statistics being quoted. They all maybe true but there is only one statistic that I believe and practice. Apart from a monogomous relationship, the only effective way to decrease your chances of catching a std, is to wear a condom. Condoms aren't 100% effective, but I always use them. If you've met someone in your public life over the years that have lied to you, isn't it likely that some swingers will lie about thier health? Who hasn't met some online that sent a fake pic and lied about what they look like? Before couples were couples, they were single.
I've personally heard some horror stories from some couples in dealing with single males. First, we are not all assholes. For instance, I always respond to all my emails with tact and class, even though sometimes you may not like what I have to say. I prefer to get to know a woman and perhaps seduce them. Sticking my dick in a woman, one minute after I meet her, doesn't appeal to me.
Secondly, i'm reading about all kind of statistics being quoted. They all maybe true but there is only one statistic that I believe and practice. Apart from a monogomous relationship, the only effective way to decrease your chances of catching a std, is to wear a condom. Condoms aren't 100% effective, but I always use them. If you've met someone in your public life over the years that have lied to you, isn't it likely that some swingers will lie about thier health? Who hasn't met some online that sent a fake pic and lied about what they look like? Before couples were couples, they were single.
Sorry, didn't mean to stereotype. Just pointing out that MOST single males are exactly like the one that sent us the email today.
I agree with Mrs Hottie. We had listed in our preferences single men once as well, and about 95% of those males that I talked with were very disrespectful and always start first conversation with something perverted and disgusting. Now, I am not against dirty talk but there is a time and a place for that, and it is always something that is with someone that I know on a personal level. You dont talk that way to someone that you dont know that well, or have just recently met that is just a major turn off to me. Some maybe like that, so I dont like to sound as though all women hate dirty talk.....I am only speaking for me. NOt all single men are disrespectful, but we have found that with the experience we have had with them most lie to us, and most are disrespectful and like Mrs Hottie my husband has to be able to trust anyone that is going to be involved sexually. I for the most part, feel that way towards any singles really. Rather it be single men or a single female. We've also heard hore storeis about single women and how they behind the wife's back went after the husband and tried to run the wife off. We've heard that several times from couples that have been with a single women. We both decided that for us, if we are going to bring a single in male or female it will be someone that we have picked, and somenoe that we know very well and trust very well. It will be someone that we are friends with but we perfer to just stick to couples.....it is safer for us, and we are more comfortable with that. You can even have problems with married couples for hellsake....we have before. You learn to pick wisely and only play sexually with those that you can trust and be friends with in and out of the bedroom. To bring someone into your relationship on the intimate of a level you haveta have trust them whether they are single or married. Everyone has different desires and wants and fantasies and as long as you are having fun and being safe then do what works best for you and for us we have realized after some experience that couples are the best thing for us it is what we get the most enjoyment out of and we have more fun with them.
Everyone here makes valid points...BUT they are missing the main idea here...
EVERYONE HAS THEIR PREFERENCES....EVERYONE HAS THEIR LEVEL OF COMFORT....THERE ARE ASSHOLES EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK....BEING A SINGLE MALE DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ASSHOLE...BEING A COUPLE DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ASSHOLE....BEING A SINGLE WOMAN DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ASSHOLE...BEING AN ASSHOLE MAKES YOU AN ASSHOLE....
I am an asshole, as evidenced by my earlier posts...BUT I readily admit that...
I agree with the one who consistently posts about my halloween costume once again too...Odd...that is 2 in two days...something strange is a foot in www.swingular.com ANYWAY...
everyone has a preference...Live with it...Enjoy YOUR life...Isn't that what this is about?
AND as a little side bar....S is listed as straight...YET every time we meet a couple with a bi woman, the bi woman attacks S even AFTER being told she is not interested in that...Sound like a single male who writes to couples who explicitly state no single males in their profile? Hmmmmm...Just something to think about....
EVERYONE HAS THEIR PREFERENCES....EVERYONE HAS THEIR LEVEL OF COMFORT....THERE ARE ASSHOLES EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK....BEING A SINGLE MALE DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ASSHOLE...BEING A COUPLE DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ASSHOLE....BEING A SINGLE WOMAN DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ASSHOLE...BEING AN ASSHOLE MAKES YOU AN ASSHOLE....
I am an asshole, as evidenced by my earlier posts...BUT I readily admit that...
I agree with the one who consistently posts about my halloween costume once again too...Odd...that is 2 in two days...something strange is a foot in www.swingular.com ANYWAY...
everyone has a preference...Live with it...Enjoy YOUR life...Isn't that what this is about?
AND as a little side bar....S is listed as straight...YET every time we meet a couple with a bi woman, the bi woman attacks S even AFTER being told she is not interested in that...Sound like a single male who writes to couples who explicitly state no single males in their profile? Hmmmmm...Just something to think about....
Mrs Hottie...Tampa...Intense...SLC...Mad...Jst...Stitch... (did I miss any real contributors?) Thank you for discussing your various viewpoints. It is easy to sit from afar and judge others because they disagree with you without trying to understand why they feel as they do.
I have no agenda anywhere with anyone; despite what another person might suspect. I don't like loud, abusive, obstinate, dumb, or pushy people of any sort, man or woman; particularly over-testosteroned men.
I would imagine these idiot males of which you speak are jerks, abusers and clowns in life outside of sexual issues as well. Just try going to a bar around 2am. That is an example of men at their worst if I ever saw one.
Sexual disease statistics are abstracts of behavior that guide us in making sound, prudent decisions regarding how we live our lives. With well over 300M people in the US alone, you are bound to find a statistic for just about everything you could imagine.
Do these statistics apply to us? Only if we allow ourselves to act in a way that exposes us to venereal diseases from which the stats are formed.
Now, I want to take us back to the original question and my prior comments. (paraphrased) Why don't you like to play with males? I can see how wide-spread the nasty-male reputation is from your comments; and I can see how completely turned-off it makes couples.
This is too bad, because there is a male population, albeit a small number of men, that do not act like asses and jerks. The trouble here? Is it worth looking for them?
I think you say no. And, with good reason.
RealSex4U. Ciao is spelled...well, you know.
R...
I have no agenda anywhere with anyone; despite what another person might suspect. I don't like loud, abusive, obstinate, dumb, or pushy people of any sort, man or woman; particularly over-testosteroned men.
I would imagine these idiot males of which you speak are jerks, abusers and clowns in life outside of sexual issues as well. Just try going to a bar around 2am. That is an example of men at their worst if I ever saw one.
Sexual disease statistics are abstracts of behavior that guide us in making sound, prudent decisions regarding how we live our lives. With well over 300M people in the US alone, you are bound to find a statistic for just about everything you could imagine.
Do these statistics apply to us? Only if we allow ourselves to act in a way that exposes us to venereal diseases from which the stats are formed.
Now, I want to take us back to the original question and my prior comments. (paraphrased) Why don't you like to play with males? I can see how wide-spread the nasty-male reputation is from your comments; and I can see how completely turned-off it makes couples.
This is too bad, because there is a male population, albeit a small number of men, that do not act like asses and jerks. The trouble here? Is it worth looking for them?
I think you say no. And, with good reason.
RealSex4U. Ciao is spelled...well, you know.
R...
the simple point is this whether ot not you or your partner are bi or not. whether you use protection or not or whether you swing with only couples or singles or not is irrelevant. the facts are that STD's exist and that the only sure fire way to avoid them is with ABSTANANCE. Short of that Condoms and other forms of protection should be used.
Richard
On a side note.. Realsex4u I appreciate your sentimates and wish you prosperity. Oh and I am MOVING BACK TO MERRITT ISLAND after January... See you at Wal-mart.
Richard
On a side note.. Realsex4u I appreciate your sentimates and wish you prosperity. Oh and I am MOVING BACK TO MERRITT ISLAND after January... See you at Wal-mart.
SLC...you are so right. These Forums are for interacting with others in a kind and caring sense, and is what can be right about people. And, it is a prime indicator of your level of maturity and responsibility.
I would never place someone else in a postion open to ridicule, nor would I assume I have the right to be gross, rude, unfair or mean to you. Or, for that fact, anyone else I would meet.
[I thinks you Utah guys/girls are allright for what that matters. I have been to SLC and Orem. I believe Utah is one of the most beautiful places I have been. We went to a Federal park while there and had a great time watching the parasailers (or whatever those brainiacs are called).]
But, that discussion is for another time and place. I, for one, remember what I hear from other people and try not to be closed-minded unless I meet an opinioned person.
I am a little irreverent at times, but that's just my sense of humor. I think all single guys reading this should take a strong look at themselves first when things don't seem to work out.
This is my last post on this topic. (so whoever doesn't like me, let 'er rip)
I would never place someone else in a postion open to ridicule, nor would I assume I have the right to be gross, rude, unfair or mean to you. Or, for that fact, anyone else I would meet.
[I thinks you Utah guys/girls are allright for what that matters. I have been to SLC and Orem. I believe Utah is one of the most beautiful places I have been. We went to a Federal park while there and had a great time watching the parasailers (or whatever those brainiacs are called).]
But, that discussion is for another time and place. I, for one, remember what I hear from other people and try not to be closed-minded unless I meet an opinioned person.
I am a little irreverent at times, but that's just my sense of humor. I think all single guys reading this should take a strong look at themselves first when things don't seem to work out.
This is my last post on this topic. (so whoever doesn't like me, let 'er rip)
This just happened to me.
I got an email from a genuine, real, couple and when I tried to respond, my email gets blocked. Now this couple is probably thinking that it was a mistake to contact a single guy because they are assholes...lol. So please, if you send us an email, unblock us so we can respond..lol.
I got an email from a genuine, real, couple and when I tried to respond, my email gets blocked. Now this couple is probably thinking that it was a mistake to contact a single guy because they are assholes...lol. So please, if you send us an email, unblock us so we can respond..lol.