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Anyone else experience this? Does it seem confrontational to anyone else or am I just being over-sensitive? I feel like if this was in person, anyone would be really uncomfortable if this is how the conversation went, so I think that applies over messaging as well.

We have a profile, I've made my preferences clear, this person falls outside that and their only profile picture is of their penis, which fine whatever, but I'm not looking for blind dates here even less so when all I know about you based on your profile places you outside my preferences
You can choose to be however you want. Although there are all kinds of people out there. We just don't get too uptight about what Is said or asked. If we're not interested we just don't reply back. Not a big deal.

So many times we get blind friend requests. But we put that as a big no-no on our profile. Still happens regularly though, we just won't except them. šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

Good luck and just have fun when you can. Don't sweat the small stuff, or let it bother you. Cheers. šŸ˜˜
hyfax1 wrote:

Don't sweat the small stuff

You're right, good reminder.
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:

It's probably more empathetic to avoid detailing the specifics as to why you decided to say no.

This is how I feel about it.
Since I am the subject of this incorrect accusation. I feel the need to respond.

Your message only shows the part of the conversation that fits your apparent agenda and does not include the first message from you. This seems intentionally deceptive.

This Forum message you created seems to want to label single males (or at least one as pushy). Which ironically is what you are looking for in your Meet Up.

You asked for a picture in your first message to me (which I have attached).
(JABRONES) "Can you send a face pic?".

This begs the question:

Why did you ask for a picture if as you state:
"I've made my preferences clear, this person falls outside that"
and
"when all I know about you based on your profile places you outside my preferences"

Correct me if I am wrong but asking for a picture would imply an interest to any reasonable person. Especially, as you state that this person falls outside of your preferences.

Either that or you are a pic collector?
Or
You had ulterior motives in gaining a pic from someone that you didn't have an interest in communicating with further.

So your message here seems to want to illicit others to support your position that somehow there was a pushy male based on a (respectful) question that was literally based on your initial request for a pic.

As a single male I have met several people from this site in person and have had 100% positive experiences and feedback. Your forum presentation is not fair as it is misrepresentative of the actual communication.

Additionally, as a single male I get blind friends requests and requests for pictures from pic collectors. So asking a simple and respectful question should not be labeled as it has in here.

That is my opinion.

So to answer your questions posed in your header and the body of your message. Yes, you are.
Rico first of all you self identified as being the accused which I think was unnecessary to begin with because Jabrones never called you out directly. But now with that being said, jabronesā€™s profile clearly requests that you send a picture when you decide to reach out which seems like you either didnā€™t read or chose to ignore. Secondly how is anyone supposed to get to know you when your profile is only like 2 lines per section? I canā€™t blame jabrones for saying itā€™s not a good fit. From one single guy to another, put a little bit of effort in and at least read the profiles before reaching out to those you are interested and make sure you need their very simple requests. If you donā€™t, it makes it that much easier to get turned down. Just sayin.
First, I did not reach out to her profile. I reached out to a specific Meet Up request which is no longer listed (so I didn't ignore). It was that criteria that I responded to. Not her profile which to be honest is different sometimes than an immediate request for an evening in the Meet Up section.
Second, I completely agree that everyone has the choice to decide if they are interested in moving forward with anyone at any time.
Third, my point was that if I did not fit her criteria (other than that listed in her Meet Up which I did or she wouldn't have responded and asked for a pic [seems like common sense to me]) then why ask for a pic at all? That is a pretty reasonable question.
Fourth, If you read my entire response you would understand that and not cast blame where it hasn't been cast by me.
Again, I appreciate the perspective offered previously, especially hyfax. However, since you felt the need to draw attention to yourself, here is the full context followed by my feedback and comments.

https://imgur.com/a/6Uxz1Fn

I asked for a picture because I was willing to give you a shot, despite you being older than who I like to spend my time with. You are correct in that this may have been a situation where I may have deviated from my typical preference if I found you particularly attractive.

I don't intend to label all single males as pushy. My intention was to call attention to pushy or confrontational behavior. A preference for men who can be dominate in an intimate setting doesn't mean I want to be pushed around by men in a social context. I certainly have no interest in men who can't understand the difference. Your interaction was not the only one in a short amount of time that left me feeling a little frustrated, such as the man who has sent me 7 friend requests and ignores my pleas to just stop.

The majority of the interactions I have here are from respectful gentlemen and I'd like to believe I treat them as such. I don't think I'm beyond reproach and I apologize for any wrong I may have committed.
"Why can't we all just get along." Maybe y'all have been around long enough to remember who made that statement. And while we're on the subject of manners, my experience is some are lacking in that area. So, before we begin to throw rocks, we all should reflect on our own behavior. As an example, in sending a message to a fellow swinger, or for that matter, responding to a "meetup" as I have done, I rarely get a positive response. Or any response at all. Think about it, would you not speak to me in a public setting and just walk off? Maybe you would, or would you simply respond with a kind "no thank you." That I can accept. It's good manners, right? If you just walked away, I'd think you rude, or deaf perhaps. "Where's your manners?" My father used to ask me, in a stern voice.
To Ricogi1....... Not sure it was necessary to bring a light to the situation. Your name was never mentioned. You were not implicated in the discussion originally. I think it was just a general thought on how she felt somebody was being pushy. (Doesn't appear you were). However some people are more sensitive than others. It seems she was just trying to get a general consensus. There is nothing wrong with that question.

Unfortunately you took it personal because you knew it was you, and you probably felt attacked for no reason.

I understand it may have hurt your feelings. But where they did not call you out directly I would've left it alone. There is already a TON OF DRAMA in the lifestyle with certain types of people. Not saying you did anything wrong with her, as it appears innocent. But sometimes it's just best to leave thing alone, who knows maybe you would meet up at a party at some point and be friends šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø Just my 2 cents. Best of luck to everybody. šŸ˜˜šŸ’‹šŸ˜˜
OK. Sorry for the premature message earlier I do not want to retype anything. I was able to go look at the whole conversation. Thanks Jabrones

My opinion is this. At times Rico was a little bit pushy in the middle there. But then Rose asked for a face pic. Then for her own reasons Rose said no thanks. Then Rico just asked a simple yet valid question, I can see why he asked that and why he may have been confused.

So in my crappy opinion. I think both parties have overreacted a little bit. You all seem like cool people. I would just try to meet up at a group gathering and say hello, and sorry and see if there's a connection to be at his friends. Best of luck šŸ˜˜šŸ’‹šŸ˜˜
We always decline giving reasons as to why we arenā€™t interested. Incompatibility is more common than not, and when we arenā€™t a fit for people weā€™re fine with it. There are plenty of other people out there.

This LS can be cruel if you let it. Sometimes people canā€™t just move along gracefullyā€¦ we suggest both of you try.
Agreed. I appreciate the honest responses and will make an effort to communicate better going forward. Our experiences with others here and in the various other lifestyle venues have been largely positive! Looking forward to more fun friends and hot adventures!
After reading this thread and seeing both perspectives. I can see Jabrones comment as an attempt at trying not to single out a specific parameter that they were not comfortable with so as to not offend Rico. And Rico's response was an attempt at humor with the intention to provide feedback in order to provide information for improvement on future meetups.
That being said, most people in the lifestyle do not want to offend or reject people as a rule, and nobody should take a no as a rejection of themselves or self worth. It is the same as somebody say no I don't want Strawberry ice cream, I want Pistachio tonight. We have found it is best to be empathetic to the others situation and try to view it from their perspective. Bottom line nobody in the LS should take non participation with theirself in a personal way, it is just a preference. But we are human and do have feelings and we sometimes forget the different dynamic that is this LS. IMHO
You don't owe anyone and explanation. It's about you and your husband and what you want and desire. To me a pushy male would be a hard pass and a block. He obviously would not show you or your marriage the respect that is incredibly important.
Without getting into taking sides, we do have a question. We have told others that we aren't interested and have been told by others they are not interested. We never ask why as in the end, it doesn't matter. There was something that didn't line up and they aren't interested. Not sure why people ask why. We personally feel it's a bit narcissistic and they are trying to hone in their approach (be better fisherman). Attraction is not solely based on looks but communication style, humor, charisma (the riz), etc. We always respond with the attraction/connection wasn't there, if you see us out at an event feel free to say hi, we still can be still be social and friendly.
If you have to ask, ā€œif you are the asshole,ā€ you probably are?
Weā€™ve had a few ā€œ Assholesā€ that have contacted us -
Anyone that starts off by saying
(1) show me your tits ?
(2) come over and fuck me ?
(3) are you a slit ?
(4) can my buddy join in ?
(5) your husband canā€™t get it up ?
(6) can you sneak out?
(7) send me a picture of your pussy
We have found that the younger single men aren't the most respectful ( in general Couples are easier to talk to and understand boundaries -

Booberiesj
Wow! I will never get that time back. I just read through all of these. SMH.

* We get some pushy assholes that will just message DTF, or let's fuck, or whatever. CLEARLY, we are all here to fuck, there are just some levels of tact and communication that most people tend to like. No big deal.

* Our opinion is that reading profiles is a good idea. So, read the profile or find someone who can read to do it for you. šŸ˜‰ That said, we get people that hit our profile, and you can tell they didn't read it. It isn't the end of the world, sometimes we talk with them more and they're really interesting to us. Other times we ignore them. It isn't a difficult thing.

* We read this whole dramatic event, and we certainly are not going to take sides. We can see merit and room for improvement with both parties.

* Guys, I don't think anyone is looking to get married on here. We are all looking to fulfill our carnal desires. Some people speak differently than we prefer. Engage with them or don't.

I think it would be tough to be a single male on here. They get a lot of shit. Some of them deserve it, but many are respectful and just looking to fuck too. Well, I know some women on here like a lot of dick sometimes, and... TAH DAH!!! I give you the single male who really can make a night a hell of a lot of fun in certain circumstances and certainly if you're looking for DP, DVP, Orgy, Gangbang, just a little something strange and new... Whatever.

Anyway, good luck to you all! Happy fucking. Maybe we see some of y'all out there. šŸ™‚
Chiming in as a younger single male. I am actually very unsuccessful/un-interacted with on this site even though irl I would say Iā€™m decently successful at building friendships and connections in the LS community. I regret buying the lifetime membership. The amount of just being flat out ignored and not really interacted with really takes away from the effort that I have put on here. So Iā€™m definitely Jaded from this and have stopped even attempting to meet people on here. I am respectful, I read profiles, and typically introduce my self in my opening message. Genuinely trying to get to know people. After reading the replies on here it seems a lot donā€™t really give you a chance if your single male, and chalk it up to connection isnā€™t really there lol. But if they havenā€™t even engaged with you how could they say that. However attraction is a different story. But no one would really say that to your face it appears. Just my experience and two cents.
GatsnTats wrote:

Chiming in as a younger single male. I am actually very unsuccessful/un-interacted with on this site even though irl I would say Iā€™m decently successful at building friendships and connections in the LS community. I regret buying the lifetime membership. The amount of just being flat out ignored and not really interacted with really takes away from the effort that I have put on here. So Iā€™m definitely Jaded from this and have stopped even attempting to meet people on here. I am respectful, I read profiles, and typically introduce my self in my opening message. Genuinely trying to get to know people. After reading the replies on here it seems a lot donā€™t really give you a chance if your single male, and chalk it up to connection isnā€™t really there lol. But if they havenā€™t even engaged with you how could they say that. However attraction is a different story. But no one would really say that to your face it appears. Just my experience and two cents.
What site do you find success in as a single male? We are curious because it seems they are all the same for the most part when it comes to this.
GatsnTats wrote:

Chiming in as a younger single male. I am actually very unsuccessful/un-interacted with on this site even though irl I would say Iā€™m decently successful at building friendships and connections in the LS community. I regret buying the lifetime membership. The amount of just being flat out ignored and not really interacted with really takes away from the effort that I have put on here. So Iā€™m definitely Jaded from this and have stopped even attempting to meet people on here. I am respectful, I read profiles, and typically introduce my self in my opening message. Genuinely trying to get to know people. After reading the replies on here it seems a lot donā€™t really give you a chance if your single male, and chalk it up to connection isnā€™t really there lol. But if they havenā€™t even engaged with you how could they say that. However attraction is a different story. But no one would really say that to your face it appears. Just my experience and two cents.


Sorry you and other single men have had such a bad experience. You seem like a nice-enough gentlemen . . . let us try and assuage your pain, and maybe offer some unsolicited insight from our perspective. You may or may not find it useful:

1st - your current focus is on YOU . . . this is unlikely to result in much success on this or ANY LS site. Successful single males ALWAYS focus on the couple . . . and on HER, never on what they want out of an exchange. Food for thought.

2nd - Most people on this site engage in the LS as a HOBBY . . . not a full time endeavor. This means that most of us are not on here 24/7 so it will NEVER be a priority for us to find someone to play with.

3rd . . . and this is important . . . there are literally THOUSANDS of single males out there willing to play. As a couple - IF and WHEN we are interested in a single man . . . we have to sort out a variety of possible negative outcomes which include:

A) The number of 'single males' who are actually cheating married men and with whom we have no interest.

B) The number of promiscuous men who play with anyone and who likely carry with them a high risk of STI's.

C) Those that fit outside the demographic that is attractive to the female half of our couplehood...

D) Those that have the physical build the wife is looking for. (Note: there is nothing wrong with 'average equipment', most of us are average . . . but 'average equipment' is NOT what the majority of women are looking for in a single male sexual partner. Most of them already have EXCEPTIONAL sexual partners and are very satisfied by their current partners . . . so unless you are offering something truly exceptional . . . don't be offended if you don't get a lot of 'bites'. By exceptional . . . you have to think about what are you bringing to the table that is uniquely attractive - (and that doesn't just mean your availability to play . . . although your availability WHEN needed is paramount). Cock size is important to some . . . but we don't know anyone who isn't looking for something unique and different . . . something uniquely exciting to the wife. If you are not offering something uniquely exciting and intriguing . . . good luck, but we don't predict you will have much success on this or any other site.

E) . . . from the posts we see from single males . . . this is not well-understood: We are not looking for a relationship or deep personal friendship with you like we do with the couples we play with! We have that already - Although many couples who enjoy single male play will entertain repeat visits . . . the second you try to weave your way into our/their relationship . . . you are out . . . permanently. You are never going to replace him - anything that looks like that . . . may get you blocked. Food for thought.

Finally, there is the issue of trust. Allowing a single male into your bedroom is a sacred privilege too few single men understand. When we say 'understand' we mean . . . there are very few men that understand their role as a bull. That role is different for every couple on here. For most, however, you are a TOY. You are there for THEIR pleasure FIRST. If you understand THAT . . . then receiving some pleasure of your own, out of/during the experience, is probable. Most of the single men we have seen on this site and others have very little understanding of this dynamic - they project only what THEY want to get out of the exchange . . . which is completely uninteresting and boring for most of us in the market for a single male. Without wishing to offend you . . . we really don't care what YOU want out of the exchange. IF you are selected, we are confident you will be satisfied with the exchange . . . what YOU need to work on, is what YOU have to offer to US - remembering that there are literally THOUSANDS of offers out there. It is very much a 'Buyers Market'. Also, very few of the single men on here project the confidence they know how to navigate this dynamic successfully. Those few who do . . . quickly stand out from the thousands of other men attempting to make a connection. Some don't even understand that their job is to please the woman . . . not to be pleased by her. VERY FEW understand the importance of connecting with the male half of the couple and earning his trust. That is a non-starter for many couples.

Last but not least . . . although we touched on this earlier, we think it merits clarification. If you cannot be available on OUR/THEIR schedule . . . don't be surprised if you are quickly replaced. Remember . . . there are literally THOUSANDS of competitors.

Those who check the boxes above . . . AND whose availability corresponds with that of the couple seeking playmates . . . will QUICKLY ascend to the top of the pile. Those who are unavailable when the couple desires, along with those who play hard to get or 'let me check my schedule' . . . well, . . . good luck to you. If you have checked ALL the boxes . . . and can't arrange your schedule to play when needed . . . you will likely lose out . . . almost certainly, with very few exceptions. We hope we have made our point.

Aside from that, there are dozens of other important check boxes. A touch of class goes a long way. The ability to put together a coherent sentence in your introductory message is imperative. Just having these two talents can quickly grab our attention.

If you happen to be one of the few out of the thousands that can check all these boxes . . you rise to the top of everyone's list. Then, you can finally compete on the basis of your good looks and charm . . . which hopefully you have in abundance.

We hope we have not diminished your enthusiasm . . . (sounds as if that had already occurred). We also don't wish to sound arrogant, but seriously, nearly EVERY lifestyle couple we have spoken to about this subject, those who occasionally entertain single males, agree to most of what we have written above . . . even if they won't say so. Our individual rankings and preferences vary widely . . . but at some level . . . this is our process.

Overall, we have had very positive interactions with nearly all the single males who have contacted us. Having said that - very few have made it to a 'meet in real life'. We hope this information will provide helpful insight to you and the other single men reading this. We are certainly not experts in this field . . . so YMMV . . . but at least consider the information . . . If the shoe fits . . . In the mean time . . . we wish both the single males on this site and those pursuing them the very best of luck. Its supposed to be fun! Stay safe and Good luck.
There ARE a lot of pushy males on this site, and most of them canā€™t read obviously! We get daily friend request without introduction, which is clearly stated in our profile, and the constant cock shots, again is in our profile if your only photo is your unimpressive cock, donā€™t botherā€¦.now we just DELETE/BLOCK THEM ALL!
It really is so simple ... "MY ACCOUNT" -> "All Settings" -> "Block Single Males" āœ…

If you happen to find an interesting singe male, you can still contact them.
It is so sad that there are so many that have nothing better to do than inject themselves with negativity into a conversation when they CLEARLY do not have any knowledge of what happened.

"Block Single Males? (Cpl4Fwb)

Did you even read the original post. Seriously. Stop bashing for the sake of bashing. We should all be adults and have a better comprehension of adult relationships.

For the record. The original poster of this thread crated a "Meet Up" that was specifically looking for a male. Yes, a male (so if she had males "blocked" she would receive NO responses). She didn't want a couple or a female. She wanted a male.
This was a solicited situation in on an adult site.
She received a response and asked for a picture in return. It was that simple. The chain of responses with the follow up messages in this thread have been incorrect in their interpretations.

The reality is that she actually messaged me personally the same day as this original post and ALL IS WELL...LOL

It is funny (and sad) to see all of the follow up responses that have no idea what this was even about or the context of what really happened.

To the point. Stop with the drama and incorrect assumptions and just be adults and have fun!
RICOGI1, take a deep breath. There is not a single thread on here (or any social media site) that is multiple pages long that has not drifted from the original post. Threads drift all over the place. In fact, most responses, like yours, addresses the previous response and not the original post.

Actually, there was absolutely no negativity in our post. Just a simple solution to the building drama in this thread. We posted now, instead of initially or even while it was a single page thread, because it wasn't germane, but as the thread drifted and the drama increased, it became germane.

FYI ... we have received messages from single males while blocking single males. Also, if a couple just had to communicate with a single male, there are ways to do so.
It was either Loudermilk or this post tonight. This post won! Thank you for the bedtime entertainment! There is a lot of good people on here, Love you all! Good night šŸ˜˜šŸ˜“

Wellā€¦ except for the assholes, of course šŸ¤£
Oh, nonono, please guys, no.
We have a good thing here, let's not spoil it.

Never ask a couple for the "why." Asking "why" won't change anything and doesn't go over any better than it would if you ask it in person.

Cast your net far and wide. Even if you're an average guy like me, maybe 1 in 50 couples will agree to meet, and you should be fine with that.

If you're told "no," then move on. Quickly. Otherwise...

Cpl4Fwb wrote:

It really is so simple ... "MY ACCOUNT" -> "All Settings" -> "Block Single Males" āœ…


...more couples will go to DEFCON1.
There is a place for single guys. We have had the great connection with them. In fact we prefer them. However a few of them make it hard to find the good ones. If your told no just move on. Donā€™t be a add and make it difficult for everyone!
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