If you follow the news here in Utah, you have heard over and over for the past week or two how Utahs Gas prices rank in the top 5 nationally. Its kind of ironic for a state that has its own oil reserves and refineries to be nearly $3.00 a gallon while the rest of a nation that has endured history making disasters is now nearing the $2.00 a gallon price. We have heard excuse after excuse from the petrolium industry as to why we are so high until finally last night they finally admitted that it is just plain greed. True, there is no law that states you can't make as profit as the public is willing to pay, and no one wants to be the first to drop their price and cut their profits while the guy next door continues to bask in his prosperity. I guess as they say.... its the American way to do things. Being the driver of a gas guzzling SUV.. I am guilty of waste and excess... I could sell my Yukon and drive a smaller more economical vehicle thereby not having to pay huge amounts to the distributers when I fill up. BUT.. I like my vehicle, enjoy the ride and it comes in very handy when I am pulling my trailers. I have heard multitudes of people raising the banner of boycott and going without buying gas for a week in order to show the gas companies they need to change and bring prices down. HA HA... that will only cause long lines at the end of the week for those who try such a silly idea and there will still be so much business from those who have to operate vehicles for their livelyhood that the gas companies wont even notice. My suggestion is that if you dont want to continue to pad the pockets of these rich businessmen, do something that has a more long lasting effect that really wont change your lifestyle that much. Most Convenience Gas Stations, which is about 85% of all service facilities, make a large amount of their profits by selling you the items inside the store. If you want to hurt their pocket book.. start planning ahead and only buy gas. Dont fall prey to all of the high priced goodies they display, get them when you go grocery shopping. Resist the urge to buy those treats and drinks. Think of all the money you could save and how much better your health would become by cutting out all of that sugar and fat. We would be healthier, we would save alot more money not wasting it, and then maybe the gas misers would decide to draw more business by selling gas at lower prices. Well.. the idea is good and sound.. its just getting the multitudes to follow.
Whats your opinions? ( And lets not start a witch hunt or riots in the street.. lets wait for Halloween to do that ).
Kev. (Hym)
Whats your opinions? ( And lets not start a witch hunt or riots in the street.. lets wait for Halloween to do that ).
Kev. (Hym)
Paid $2.39 on the Florida Turnpike today.
Right now $2.10 here.
Mrs Hunt CUM Back to Fl great parties and cheap gas lol
You guys all hang in their. Hey maybe I could buy say a tanker at 2.39 and sell it at 2.59 make a buck what do ya think?
You guys all hang in their. Hey maybe I could buy say a tanker at 2.39 and sell it at 2.59 make a buck what do ya think?
High gas prices ? Think about this .........In the 70's there was the Buick Electra 225 , it had a 4 barrel carb , 455 engine , 3 speed trans , and built from heavy guage american steel . The big chrome bumpers took 2 guys to pick it up and bolt it on , point being all the parts on this car where heavy metals !!! Pump the gas in the cold morning to set the choke , fire it up and hope you didn't flood out as you idled at 1500 rpms . Cruise down the highway 70mph at 3500 rpm's . The Buick got 12-15 mpg in town and 18 on the highway .
The new GM SUV ........averaging 14 mpg in the city and 20 on the highway !! Lightwieght composite hoods , fenders , decklids , and plastic bumpers . Light wieght aluminum alloys used on the engine along with plastic intakes and radiators . Six speed overdrive transmissions , computer controlled engine and trans for optimum efficiency . Not to mention areo dynamics for less wind resistance . Cruise at 70 mph at 2100 rpms and coast clutch engaged drops you to 1800 rpms.............But the fuel useage is the same as the ole sled that blew black smoke !!!
Can you say FUEL BLENDS !!!!! Make your cars more efficient and we will change the fuel blends to make you use the same quantity !!!! Couple months ago GM called in all thier Hybrid cars that were out on lease . They crushed 18,000 new ones along with the recalls in Arizona and have scraped thier Hybrid plans..........reason was .....too efficient , the parts were not going to go bad as often and would hurt the auto industry along with the fuel industry !!!!! .....
The Japanese cars have taken over..........but did you know they are silently owned by the big three.......GM ( Toyota ) .....etc !!!
The new GM SUV ........averaging 14 mpg in the city and 20 on the highway !! Lightwieght composite hoods , fenders , decklids , and plastic bumpers . Light wieght aluminum alloys used on the engine along with plastic intakes and radiators . Six speed overdrive transmissions , computer controlled engine and trans for optimum efficiency . Not to mention areo dynamics for less wind resistance . Cruise at 70 mph at 2100 rpms and coast clutch engaged drops you to 1800 rpms.............But the fuel useage is the same as the ole sled that blew black smoke !!!
Can you say FUEL BLENDS !!!!! Make your cars more efficient and we will change the fuel blends to make you use the same quantity !!!! Couple months ago GM called in all thier Hybrid cars that were out on lease . They crushed 18,000 new ones along with the recalls in Arizona and have scraped thier Hybrid plans..........reason was .....too efficient , the parts were not going to go bad as often and would hurt the auto industry along with the fuel industry !!!!! .....
The Japanese cars have taken over..........but did you know they are silently owned by the big three.......GM ( Toyota ) .....etc !!!
I know LADYUC.. I have to have my 52 ounces of MT. DEW every morning at the Chevron Station.
Ok will yall get mad if I say $2.39 a gal again? Watch as soon a a Storm get even remotly close to us gas will go up over night to 3:20 a Gal
We feel for you guys in UT. Well we would like to feel you any way LOL.
We feel for you guys in UT. Well we would like to feel you any way LOL.
Just filled up here for $2.01...
And my sister used to have a Buick Electra 225 when she was in college. I loved that car. When I got old enough to drive, dad rescued it and I fixed it up, and that was my ride in the early 80s. At least until I had to start paying for the gas. I sold it to a guy that built race cars, and he only used the engine out of the thing, sending the rest of it to a scrap yard. Paid me $1900 for that engine. I wish it had gotten 12-15 MPG. I would have kept it longer. It really got around 7-9 MPG.
And my sister used to have a Buick Electra 225 when she was in college. I loved that car. When I got old enough to drive, dad rescued it and I fixed it up, and that was my ride in the early 80s. At least until I had to start paying for the gas. I sold it to a guy that built race cars, and he only used the engine out of the thing, sending the rest of it to a scrap yard. Paid me $1900 for that engine. I wish it had gotten 12-15 MPG. I would have kept it longer. It really got around 7-9 MPG.
Here in Central NC we have been paying $ 2.979 and have just recently (the last 2 or 3 days ) seen gas prices fall to $ 2.479.. So I don't know where the rest of the nation is but profit taking has been going on since before Katrina and the Gasoline Companies/Oil Companies have been making more profit in one qtr than they did previously in an entire year.....
Ted Kenedy(not that I'm a fan of his) proposed that a tax be levied on companies who were profiteering based on the percentage of profit increases... PooPooed by the Senators and House members "since the nation economy is based on profits." Well the economy may be based on profits but companies have been making record profits and workers have been getting the shaft.... Like the old story the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.... or where some get the elevator and some get the shaft......
Personally I'm for giving the ladies the shaft and Congress should be shafted.... We need a Texas Tea Party......I htink the ladies of UT and the ladies of FL should lead the fight and go to Washington and show congress what a REAL Fuching is like not this bendyaovernwishforvasiline crap they've been doing for the past 60 years or so....Does anyone remember the 1956 depression....Ike was in office... Yep there was one ... Movies went from a dime to 15 cents to 25 cents and milk from 10 cents to a quarter. Cigarettes went from a dime a pack to 15 cents to 20 cents. Meat prices doubled..... and that was just the beginning..... Sine then the government and big business have made an art form out of BOAFTP politics. When are we going to realize that until we get party leaders, both parties or any party, to realize that we are not going to lay down any longer and take the shit that has been handed out and that we want good and relatively honest government we will see what we have seen for the past 50 years escalate until the government colapses of it's own muck and mire or until we are totally up to our ears it that muck.
In the interim lets have fun and fantasy in the lifestyle and get real in the "real world".
Ted Kenedy(not that I'm a fan of his) proposed that a tax be levied on companies who were profiteering based on the percentage of profit increases... PooPooed by the Senators and House members "since the nation economy is based on profits." Well the economy may be based on profits but companies have been making record profits and workers have been getting the shaft.... Like the old story the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.... or where some get the elevator and some get the shaft......
Personally I'm for giving the ladies the shaft and Congress should be shafted.... We need a Texas Tea Party......I htink the ladies of UT and the ladies of FL should lead the fight and go to Washington and show congress what a REAL Fuching is like not this bendyaovernwishforvasiline crap they've been doing for the past 60 years or so....Does anyone remember the 1956 depression....Ike was in office... Yep there was one ... Movies went from a dime to 15 cents to 25 cents and milk from 10 cents to a quarter. Cigarettes went from a dime a pack to 15 cents to 20 cents. Meat prices doubled..... and that was just the beginning..... Sine then the government and big business have made an art form out of BOAFTP politics. When are we going to realize that until we get party leaders, both parties or any party, to realize that we are not going to lay down any longer and take the shit that has been handed out and that we want good and relatively honest government we will see what we have seen for the past 50 years escalate until the government colapses of it's own muck and mire or until we are totally up to our ears it that muck.
In the interim lets have fun and fantasy in the lifestyle and get real in the "real world".
First of all, we DO NOT buy our oil from Arabs, we get ours from mexico, Venezualea (sp?), Nigeria, Canada, and USA...We PROTECT the arab oil because other countries need the Arab oil...IF the Arab oil were to have aproblem, thet would make other countries (read here China, India, and Russia) come to OUR suppliers to get oil, thusly making it hard for us to get it....
The reason gas is so high is not the oil, not the war, not anything but one thing...NO ONE wants an oil refinery in their back yard, therefore the oil refineries in place now have been there since the 70's at the latest. A new refiniery has not been built since 1976...Without updated refinery capacities, you will not see a drastic drop in price....
Now...On to oil companies making profits...Look at Exxon/Mobile for one...Is all they do oil based? NO!!!! Look at what other companies are owned by their company...That will tell you where the profits are...A prime example of this is RJ Reynolds...Peopl have cut back on smoking...More and more people quit every day...YET RJR is stilla blue chip stock, why? They own Kraft, Nabisco, and Keebler...Do you non-smokers buy those products? You are supporting tabacco....
Now...Finally..Onto the whole issue of an SUV...If you were to look at the statistics, people in SUV's are JUST as likely to be injured as people in cars...Therefore they are NO safer...They get a sense of safeness...But in reality they are less safe...The whole issue of rollover is one of the main reasons...HOWEVER....For a bunch of more liberal minded people...This IS something to consider...YOU are more likely to cause death with yoru vehicle...but you are still no safer...
Now as to another aspect of the gas price...In Utah...the gas stations...where are they located? More than likely, the are in a VERY limited amount of commercial space...Therefore the rent, taxes, price of the land, etc are much higher...Adding to the price of a gallon....In Calorado...Same thing applies...California...WOW...Come now...You want to live in California, you have to pay for it...The liberal ideas that so many people spout off about cost money...And that money comes from taxes...THERREFORE...you are payign more for gas because the price of real esatate AND the fact that you have so many liberal programs in the state...Thank your state representatives and the voters of the state for that...
Finally...If you do not believe changing your driving habits would force the price down...You are terribly mistaken...The most basic economic principle is supply and demand...When there is an abundant supply, and the demand drops...so does the price...Thereofre, if we stopped driving the gas guzzlers, we would get better mileage...and then the price would drop...the problem with this is that you cannot get 2 people to agree on where to have dinner...how are you going to get them to agree not to buy the newest SUV?
Oh yeah...Almost forgot...Do you know why the gas is cheap in Florida? the taxes are lower? Because we screw the tourists...the tourists foot the bill for our low taxes here...IF you have more tourism, you can lower the taxes of the citizens...
Just the facts as I know them....
The reason gas is so high is not the oil, not the war, not anything but one thing...NO ONE wants an oil refinery in their back yard, therefore the oil refineries in place now have been there since the 70's at the latest. A new refiniery has not been built since 1976...Without updated refinery capacities, you will not see a drastic drop in price....
Now...On to oil companies making profits...Look at Exxon/Mobile for one...Is all they do oil based? NO!!!! Look at what other companies are owned by their company...That will tell you where the profits are...A prime example of this is RJ Reynolds...Peopl have cut back on smoking...More and more people quit every day...YET RJR is stilla blue chip stock, why? They own Kraft, Nabisco, and Keebler...Do you non-smokers buy those products? You are supporting tabacco....
Now...Finally..Onto the whole issue of an SUV...If you were to look at the statistics, people in SUV's are JUST as likely to be injured as people in cars...Therefore they are NO safer...They get a sense of safeness...But in reality they are less safe...The whole issue of rollover is one of the main reasons...HOWEVER....For a bunch of more liberal minded people...This IS something to consider...YOU are more likely to cause death with yoru vehicle...but you are still no safer...
Now as to another aspect of the gas price...In Utah...the gas stations...where are they located? More than likely, the are in a VERY limited amount of commercial space...Therefore the rent, taxes, price of the land, etc are much higher...Adding to the price of a gallon....In Calorado...Same thing applies...California...WOW...Come now...You want to live in California, you have to pay for it...The liberal ideas that so many people spout off about cost money...And that money comes from taxes...THERREFORE...you are payign more for gas because the price of real esatate AND the fact that you have so many liberal programs in the state...Thank your state representatives and the voters of the state for that...
Finally...If you do not believe changing your driving habits would force the price down...You are terribly mistaken...The most basic economic principle is supply and demand...When there is an abundant supply, and the demand drops...so does the price...Thereofre, if we stopped driving the gas guzzlers, we would get better mileage...and then the price would drop...the problem with this is that you cannot get 2 people to agree on where to have dinner...how are you going to get them to agree not to buy the newest SUV?
Oh yeah...Almost forgot...Do you know why the gas is cheap in Florida? the taxes are lower? Because we screw the tourists...the tourists foot the bill for our low taxes here...IF you have more tourism, you can lower the taxes of the citizens...
Just the facts as I know them....
TMAN..just one reply..
GM has not scrapped their plans. In fact, they just donated a bunch of hydrogen fueled cars to the military.
We alway think that the big SUV's are the problem with gas usage, yet we rarelly think twice about the 767 jet that takes multiple thousand pounds of fuel every flight, or the Tractor-Trailor trucks that rack up 250,000 miles in just a few short years, or even the city transit systems with buses, vans and trains. If we want to make a dent in the usage, we need just a 10% increase in fuel economy of these transportation devices.
I'm sorry but I dont have the exact source, but on a local radio news program it was reported that a private jet of a celebrity took the same amount of fuel to fly that person to their "gig" as it does for me to run my f-150 for an entire year.
Just my two cents, but maybe were looking in the wrong places....
GM has not scrapped their plans. In fact, they just donated a bunch of hydrogen fueled cars to the military.
We alway think that the big SUV's are the problem with gas usage, yet we rarelly think twice about the 767 jet that takes multiple thousand pounds of fuel every flight, or the Tractor-Trailor trucks that rack up 250,000 miles in just a few short years, or even the city transit systems with buses, vans and trains. If we want to make a dent in the usage, we need just a 10% increase in fuel economy of these transportation devices.
I'm sorry but I dont have the exact source, but on a local radio news program it was reported that a private jet of a celebrity took the same amount of fuel to fly that person to their "gig" as it does for me to run my f-150 for an entire year.
Just my two cents, but maybe were looking in the wrong places....
Oh one more thing... Shut up DJQ..I dont care nor do I want to hear what you have to say
I live in Moab, Ut...HUGE tourist based town....we see more tourist in one year than the whole population of utah alone.....and my taxes are outrages....my home taxes a year are close to $2,000, the taxes on any food item is 8%, clothings only 6%, the state alone takes out $142.(give or take a few cents) each paycheck(aware thats not a city tax) Gas prices here are $2.69, a gallon of milk is $4.19,
So what your saying is tourist are actually helping my town?? They take the brunt of the gouging??? Maybe I misunderstood...but the way I see it( living in a HUGE tourist town) becuz of the tourism, I...a true native of Moab, have to pay more, and the tourist just seem to not even notice......so in my opinion....tourism hurts...and only encourages the gouging!!!! and this is coming from someone who is traveling soon...LMAO
all in all...we are all being fucked in the ass(NO LUBE) by the government...and I agree somehow, someday, we need to let them know we wont just lay down anymore!!!
personally I like laying down, bending over, hands and knees...oh shit...thinking aloud again...LOL
Kiss Kiss
Tish
So what your saying is tourist are actually helping my town?? They take the brunt of the gouging??? Maybe I misunderstood...but the way I see it( living in a HUGE tourist town) becuz of the tourism, I...a true native of Moab, have to pay more, and the tourist just seem to not even notice......so in my opinion....tourism hurts...and only encourages the gouging!!!! and this is coming from someone who is traveling soon...LMAO
all in all...we are all being fucked in the ass(NO LUBE) by the government...and I agree somehow, someday, we need to let them know we wont just lay down anymore!!!
personally I like laying down, bending over, hands and knees...oh shit...thinking aloud again...LOL
Kiss Kiss
Tish