Interesting talk.
Interesting - thanks for sharing
She makes many good points. Personally, I feel like all or most of the negative connotations about sex in general, and casual sex specifically, can be laid at the feet of religion and it's disproportionate influence on society. Which is quite odd when you really think about it.
Supposedly there is some omnipotent, omniscient being who is apparently extremely concerned with what we do with our genitals, and with whom. And the REALLY ironic part is that it seems so very often that the men (well, usually men anyway) who purport to speak for this divine being are quite frequently supposedly given special status and/or are allowed to ignore these strict genital rules.
Here in Utah, the predominant religion was indeed started by an individual who was supposedly commanded by a divine being (God, an angel with a flaming sword, or whoever) to basically have sex with (via marriage although there is very good evidence that it was not always the case) a lot of women...some of them very young and some of them already married to some of his followers.
I was hoping she might mention swinging, i.e. consensual casual sex practiced together as a committed couple, a little more specifically rather than sort of alluding to it under the guise of ENM.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I wonder who William and Mary are and if they'd be open to swinging.
Supposedly there is some omnipotent, omniscient being who is apparently extremely concerned with what we do with our genitals, and with whom. And the REALLY ironic part is that it seems so very often that the men (well, usually men anyway) who purport to speak for this divine being are quite frequently supposedly given special status and/or are allowed to ignore these strict genital rules.
Here in Utah, the predominant religion was indeed started by an individual who was supposedly commanded by a divine being (God, an angel with a flaming sword, or whoever) to basically have sex with (via marriage although there is very good evidence that it was not always the case) a lot of women...some of them very young and some of them already married to some of his followers.
I was hoping she might mention swinging, i.e. consensual casual sex practiced together as a committed couple, a little more specifically rather than sort of alluding to it under the guise of ENM.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I wonder who William and Mary are and if they'd be open to swinging.
EVILDOERS wrote:
She makes many good points. Personally, I feel like all or most of the negative connotations about sex in general, and casual sex specifically, can be laid at the feet of religion and it's disproportionate influence on society. Which is quite odd when you really think about it.
Supposedly there is some omnipotent, omniscient being who is apparently extremely concerned with what we do with our genitals, and with whom. And the REALLY ironic part is that it seems so very often that the men (well, usually men anyway) who purport to speak for this divine being are quite frequently supposedly given special status and/or are allowed to ignore these strict genital rules.
Here in Utah, the predominant religion was indeed started by an individual who was supposedly commanded by a divine being (God, an angel with a flaming sword, or whoever) to basically have sex with (via marriage although there is very good evidence that it was not always the case) a lot of women...some of them very young and some of them already married to some of his followers.
I was hoping she might mention swinging, i.e. consensual casual sex practiced together as a committed couple, a little more specifically rather than sort of alluding to it under the guise of ENM.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I wonder who William and Mary are and if they'd be open to swinging.
William and Mary are really kinky! Might be right up your ally.....If you're into that sort of thing!
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:EVILDOERS wrote:
She makes many good points. Personally, I feel like all or most of the negative connotations about sex in general, and casual sex specifically, can be laid at the feet of religion and it's disproportionate influence on society. Which is quite odd when you really think about it.
Supposedly there is some omnipotent, omniscient being who is apparently extremely concerned with what we do with our genitals, and with whom. And the REALLY ironic part is that it seems so very often that the men (well, usually men anyway) who purport to speak for this divine being are quite frequently supposedly given special status and/or are allowed to ignore these strict genital rules.
Here in Utah, the predominant religion was indeed started by an individual who was supposedly commanded by a divine being (God, an angel with a flaming sword, or whoever) to basically have sex with (via marriage although there is very good evidence that it was not always the case) a lot of women...some of them very young and some of them already married to some of his followers.
I was hoping she might mention swinging, i.e. consensual casual sex practiced together as a committed couple, a little more specifically rather than sort of alluding to it under the guise of ENM.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I wonder who William and Mary are and if they'd be open to swinging.
William and Mary are really kinky! Might be right up your ally.....If you're into that sort of thing!
Really? Wait, what are their pronouns?
EVILDOERS wrote:DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:
[quote=EVILDOERS]She makes many good points. Personally, I feel like all or most of the negative connotations about sex in general, and casual sex specifically, can be laid at the feet of religion and it's disproportionate influence on society. Which is quite odd when you really think about it.
Supposedly there is some omnipotent, omniscient being who is apparently extremely concerned with what we do with our genitals, and with whom. And the REALLY ironic part is that it seems so very often that the men (well, usually men anyway) who purport to speak for this divine being are quite frequently supposedly given special status and/or are allowed to ignore these strict genital rules.
Here in Utah, the predominant religion was indeed started by an individual who was supposedly commanded by a divine being (God, an angel with a flaming sword, or whoever) to basically have sex with (via marriage although there is very good evidence that it was not always the case) a lot of women...some of them very young and some of them already married to some of his followers.
I was hoping she might mention swinging, i.e. consensual casual sex practiced together as a committed couple, a little more specifically rather than sort of alluding to it under the guise of ENM.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I wonder who William and Mary are and if they'd be open to swinging.
William and Mary are really kinky! Might be right up your ally.....If you're into that sort of thing!
Really? Wait, what are their pronouns? [/quote]
interchangably, Zi and Hir. When they are both in a Zi mood, they are a bit more dominant. So expect Zi, Zi to be top.
Oh I’m much more into getting dressed up sex … as opposed to casually dressed sex … it’s just me 😝
FunKinkyDuo wrote:
Oh I’m much more into getting dressed up sex … as opposed to casually dressed sex … it’s just me 😝
Black tie optional sex.
“The Ethical Slut”. 😈 Hmmm……
I have it on good 'authority' that Mary is a Hotwife . . . YMMV. 😁
Some additional thoughts and take-aways we got from this:
“Authenticity – is hooking up with people you are not dating exciting to you?” – Y E S
“90% of the women ‘enjoyed’ their hook-up!” – We hope that is much higher in the LS.
“Women need to be more selfish – demand their sexual pleasure, men need to be more giving.” YUP
“People actually say they don’t want to be friends or spouses with sexually promiscuous others” WTF – they clearly didn’t talk to many LS couples!! LOL
Promiscuous people HAVE MORE FRIENDS! . . . duh!
“If you need to be drunk to be hooking up . . . you should NOT be hooking up at all” We couldn’t agree more.
“Sex can lead to infatuation” . . . well, I certainly hope so! Solution: “Have a rotation of partners” . . . BOOM! Problem solved! But seriously . . . we feel a LITTLE infatuation is good (we may have a mild infatuation with a couple posting on this blog for instance (lol - you know who you are!), having a few couples, who are also friends with occasional benefits you can rotate with, seems to make good sense. If infatuation is leading you away from your partner . . . then that would be bad (IOHO). We’ve found its better not to ‘play’ with a couple every time you get together with them – adds to the excitement and enhances the ‘friend’ factor.
Only 4 – 5% are incorporating the LS into their long-term relationships??? If that is true – we feel bad for the other 95%. Sorry about your luck! “Ethical Non-Monogamy” . . . L O V E that term! The ethos is so important - a set of rules you operate by!
“Casual sex can also be an amazing experience that enriches your life and brings great happiness” . . . that pretty much sums up our experience thus far.
Thanks for sharing – we enjoyed it!!
“Authenticity – is hooking up with people you are not dating exciting to you?” – Y E S
“90% of the women ‘enjoyed’ their hook-up!” – We hope that is much higher in the LS.
“Women need to be more selfish – demand their sexual pleasure, men need to be more giving.” YUP
“People actually say they don’t want to be friends or spouses with sexually promiscuous others” WTF – they clearly didn’t talk to many LS couples!! LOL
Promiscuous people HAVE MORE FRIENDS! . . . duh!
“If you need to be drunk to be hooking up . . . you should NOT be hooking up at all” We couldn’t agree more.
“Sex can lead to infatuation” . . . well, I certainly hope so! Solution: “Have a rotation of partners” . . . BOOM! Problem solved! But seriously . . . we feel a LITTLE infatuation is good (we may have a mild infatuation with a couple posting on this blog for instance (lol - you know who you are!), having a few couples, who are also friends with occasional benefits you can rotate with, seems to make good sense. If infatuation is leading you away from your partner . . . then that would be bad (IOHO). We’ve found its better not to ‘play’ with a couple every time you get together with them – adds to the excitement and enhances the ‘friend’ factor.
Only 4 – 5% are incorporating the LS into their long-term relationships??? If that is true – we feel bad for the other 95%. Sorry about your luck! “Ethical Non-Monogamy” . . . L O V E that term! The ethos is so important - a set of rules you operate by!
“Casual sex can also be an amazing experience that enriches your life and brings great happiness” . . . that pretty much sums up our experience thus far.
Thanks for sharing – we enjoyed it!!
SweettAndH wrote:
Some additional thoughts and take-aways we got from this:
“Authenticity – is hooking up with people you are not dating exciting to you?” – Y E S
“90% of the women ‘enjoyed’ their hook-up!” – We hope that is much higher in the LS.
“Women need to be more selfish – demand their sexual pleasure, men need to be more giving.” YUP
“People actually say they don’t want to be friends or spouses with sexually promiscuous others” WTF – they clearly didn’t talk to many LS couples!! LOL
Promiscuous people HAVE MORE FRIENDS! . . . duh!
“If you need to be drunk to be hooking up . . . you should NOT be hooking up at all” We couldn’t agree more.
“Sex can lead to infatuation” . . . well, I certainly hope so! Solution: “Have a rotation of partners” . . . BOOM! Problem solved! But seriously . . . we feel a LITTLE infatuation is good (we may have a mild infatuation with a couple posting on this blog for instance (lol - you know who you are!), having a few couples, who are also friends with occasional benefits you can rotate with, seems to make good sense. If infatuation is leading you away from your partner . . . then that would be bad (IOHO). We’ve found its better not to ‘play’ with a couple every time you get together with them – adds to the excitement and enhances the ‘friend’ factor.
Only 4 – 5% are incorporating the LS into their long-term relationships??? If that is true – we feel bad for the other 95%. Sorry about your luck! “Ethical Non-Monogamy” . . . L O V E that term! The ethos is so important - a set of rules you operate by!
“Casual sex can also be an amazing experience that enriches your life and brings great happiness” . . . that pretty much sums up our experience thus far.
Thanks for sharing – we enjoyed it!!
Great synopsis! I’d expect nothing less from you!