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Like most couples here, single males are not the objective. But they do serve a purpose sometimes, especially ones with bi tendencies. Yet our, albeit limited, experience is they talk a good game over messaging but when it comes to show time, ghost or excuse. Maybe it's just how we are because we don't commit to something unless we fully intend to show up. Is it us??
We haven’t been looking for singles, but the flaking happens with couples too. A LOT
If we commit, we follow through... we wish people were less gun shy.

I don’t get why single males would bail though. It always seems like they’re chomping at the bit 🤷🏽‍♂️
Starlights wrote:

We haven’t been looking for singles, but the flaking happens with couples too. A LOT
If we commit, we follow through... we wish people were less gun shy.
I don’t get why single males would bail though. It always seems like they’re chomping at the bit 🤷🏽‍♂️


That's exactly what we're thinking! Not be arrogant, but she is fucking stellar. Like, hey I can get your dick sucked by a woman who's hotter than anything you've ever gotten on your own. Oh you had something come up? Oh ok. Got it. Haha.
looking at all your profiles and I could probably guess the guys chickened out due to how over the top the male half is! some single guys have a problem with insecurities and don't want to compete with someone like the males in your profiles!

This probably sounds wrong and I will get flack but I've seen it before.
Perma-Bachelor wrote:

looking at all your profiles and I could probably guess the guys chickened out due to how over the top the male half is! some single guys have a problem with insecurities and don't want to compete with someone like the males in your profiles!
This probably sounds wrong and I will get flack but I've seen it before.


The male half here... You and I are going to best friends! Haha. Thank you kind sir.
Just an observation on this one. Many people seem to join for a variety of reasons. All join because of the fantasy of it. It sounds like it’s be a good time and let’s be honest a lot seem to not have much experience outside of vanilla. My guess is a majority flake because they don’t know how to work through that moment fantasy is going to become reality. That’s something that takes a lot of practice to recognize and work through.
I agree with perma-bacelor's analysis. Many guys are insecure and a more muscular or hung guy is uncomfy.

Also to add: men who are new to swinging chicken out at the realization another man will be watching them. And then there are those who chicken out because old 'morals' of hooking up make them feel weird guilt like swinging is wrong. I felt a strange sense of guilt going to see my first few couples because of being raised sex outside of marriage was wrong. Though I never stood someone up, I can see how nervousness can play a part for some men.

Personally I once legit had a flat tire on my way to a couple causing a delay, I texted to postpone by 45min as I fixed the tire, they did not believe me, and wow the nasty comments from them persisted for weeks.

That said, a lot of dates with couples I had set up have seen the couples canceling, ghosting,or catfishing. I think some of them were horny and or drunk the night we set the date, then nerves hit a day later and they didn't follow through. It can be frustrating but you just learn to roll with it and it makes the ones who come through shine as good people and all the more special.

If you happen to need a man who will not flake on you, I volunteer as tribute ;)
I know SMs get a bad wrap here so I go out of my way to communicate and set expectations. That being said, I also agree with others here that Couples have also some of the same flakey tendencies as what is being said about SMs.
I know SMs get a bad wrap here so I go out of my way to communicate and set expectations. That being said, I also agree with others here that Couples have also some of the same flakey tendencies as what is being said about SMs.
I'm a single male and just have a hell of a time just getting anything set up. I understand that I'm a dime a dozen in this world but at the same time I hate feeling like I'm hunting people down with no replies. With all the lockdowns and my job being WFH I just love getting out and meeting people. I hate online dating honestly and really would just love to actually talk in person.

From what I've read a on a lot of profiles it sounds like people will reach out to me if interested 😝.
I often play as a SM. I will say it takes a bit of courage to actually do it the first time. I almost went back to the car my first time walking in to a party where I knew no one. I am a confident, type-A guy who's very good in bed and I barely followed through, so I definitely get it.

Having been in the scene for a while, I've heard this frustration echoed a few times. The only advice I could offer would be to see if you could get a recommendation from someone or go to parties if you haven't. You'll start to know who shows up. I know several males in the area that do show up.

I have also noticed sometimes people leave feedback on profiles...about a hot couple, or "this guy was fun and respectful" for example. I think doing more of this could help eliminate flakes. If anyone on this thread has met me, please do leave me some feedback. I'd like people to know I show up, and it would help cut down on wasting people's time. I'm down to connect as well, but not bi.
As I single guy I can say this is a problem all around not just with single dudes... I can’t tell you how many times a meet and greet has been set up only to get stood up by a couple or single female. No I know we all have lives outside the LS and things happen... but what’s frustrating is getting the “sorry can’t make it had to take my kid or pet to the Dr.” only to be ghosted after that... also a huge problem is pic collector, both couples and single females have done this a bunch to me personally... it’s sad :(