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Gotta love all the condoms on the beds. I guess sex cooties are worse than COVID cooties. LOL

LA Swinger Super-spreader Event
So here’s the question. Who is in more violation of their dumb rule? The cops all had to gather in one location high-fiving each other giving each other bro hugs to figure out a plan to bust all these people. why are they exempt from going to jail as well or getting a citation? Just saying. So tired of double standards in this country.
Glad to see we live in the land of the free. Wonder who decides what is a "super spreader"?
That's a Plush event and they have had problems with their events in the past.
hyfax1 wrote:

So here’s the question. Who is in more violation of their dumb rule? The cops all had to gather in one location high-fiving each other giving each other bro hugs to figure out a plan to bust all these people. why are they exempt from going to jail as well or getting a citation? Just saying. So tired of double standards in this country.


First, the cops were wearing masks. Second, were they REALLY "giving each other bro hugs"? LOL And fwiw, this is nothing new and they've been busting swinger parties all over the U.S. under one guise or another since swinging began. At least now they're busting vanillas for gathering in big, maskless groups too. Even churches! How does it FEEL, vanillas?
Maybe Plush should have handed out some leashes to see if they could just call it a mass, socially-distanced, dog-walking event.

Not Breaking Curfew, Just Walking Her Dog
Ha!
OMG. A bunch of ACTIVE swingers had an Orgy. Scientific FACT covid has been around more than a year now. Do you know how many ACTIVE swingers have had it that use this forum? They likely all already had it. Sooner or later society is gonna have to realize there are people on the other side. Either that or we live the rest of our lives at home, behind a mask, worried about “germs”.
Sm435 wrote:

OMG. A bunch of ACTIVE swingers had an Orgy. Scientific FACT covid has been around more than a year now. Do you know how many ACTIVE swingers have had it that use this forum? They likely all already had it. Sooner or later society is gonna have to realize there are people on the other side. Either that or we live the rest of our lives at home, behind a mask, worried about “germs”.


Right? Who gives a fuck about "germs"? I say we all go down to Pioneer Park and have a condom-free orgy (with plenty of anal!) with a bunch of homeless drug addicts! We won't live our lives in fear anymore!
EVILDOERS wrote:

Right? Who gives a fuck about "germs"? I say we all go down to Pioneer Park and have a condom-free orgy (with plenty of anal!) with a bunch of homeless drug addicts! We won't live our lives in fear anymore!


When is the last time you:
Got a cold?
The flu?
Ate at a restaurant?
Got door dash?
Got gas?
Bought groceries?
Received a shipment from Amazon?
Put on new clothes?
New socks?
New shoes?
Put on a new mask without full sterilization?

All of those are touched my multiple human hands. Some things we all do every single day. STFU about germs, we live with germs all day everyday.
Sm435 wrote:

When is the last time you:
Got a cold?
The flu?
Ate at a restaurant?
Got door dash?
Got gas?
Bought groceries?
Received a shipment from Amazon?
Put on new clothes?
New socks?
New shoes?
Put on a new mask without full sterilization?
All of those are touched my multiple human hands. Some things we all do every single day. STFU about germs, we live with germs all day everyday.


Who knows
Last March
Last Friday
Never
2 weeks ago
30 minutes ago
5 minutes ago
Last week
Last week
Last week
Never ( hardly wear them)

Did we pass?
Gosh I dunno. You might have the 🦠 .

😂
Sm435 wrote:

EVILDOERS wrote:

Right? Who gives a fuck about "germs"? I say we all go down to Pioneer Park and have a condom-free orgy (with plenty of anal!) with a bunch of homeless drug addicts! We won't live our lives in fear anymore!

When is the last time you:
Got a cold?
The flu?
Ate at a restaurant?
Got door dash?
Got gas?
Bought groceries?
Received a shipment from Amazon?
Put on new clothes?
New socks?
New shoes?
Put on a new mask without full sterilization?
All of those are touched my multiple human hands. Some things we all do every single day. STFU about germs, we live with germs all day everyday.


So does that mean you're down with the IV drug-user orgy in Pioneer Park? A little HSV, HPV, and HIV never hurt anybody! LOL Please read a book on germ theory or, better yet, take even just a freshman-level microbiology class because you're comparing apples to oranges there, Sparky.
On a not wholly unrelated note, over 600 people died of COVID today in California, so maybe we here in little ole Utahr don't have quite the same perspective about COVID that they do right now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have never gotten hit by a car wilen crossing the street... so I! can stop looking out for traffic
This argument is moot. Each person has their only level of comfort and threshold. Many will use condoms and many won’t. We can all agree to let those that want to live how they sit best live it accordingly. Now let’s talk about something sexy like best natural aphrodisiac?
ALPAL wrote:

I have never gotten hit by a car wilen crossing the street... so I! can stop looking out for traffic


Exactly, and I've never gotten in a head-on collision driving 100mph on the freeway driving in the wrong direction. If you want to live your life in fear you just shouldn't drive on the freeway and I should be able to drive that way if I want to. The odds are highly unlikely that I will even crash into you unless either of us is a shitty driver and we happen to be on the exact same freeway at the exact same time. Yes, that's an utterly ridiculous, nonsensical argument but it's arguably statistically comparable to the arguments I hear against masks on a daily basis. And please, by all means, start a thread about the best natural aphrodisiac.
Utahldscouple wrote:

This argument is moot. Each person has their only level of comfort and threshold. Many will use condoms and many won’t. We can all agree to let those that want to live how they sit best live it accordingly. Now let’s talk about something sexy like best natural aphrodisiac?


What, exactly, is "moot" about this argument? And it's really more of a debate than an argument since, as least on my end, nobody is angry or upset.
There is no argument nor debate. Sorry for you mask protagonists, but you lost. There are mandates all over the country and we still keep pumping out huge numbers of new cases every single day.

The only thing this mask mandate ever did was enable people to feel empowered and place blame in others. We are all fighting the same virus, all of us, but people who buy in and think they are better or smarter than others take this as a way to point fingers.

You posted a news story that labeled every swinger at that a party as a SPREADER and the party it’s self as a SUPERSPREADER event. This is 100% backed up by facts that includes testing everyone at the party for covid, finding some with advanced cases that cause almost everyone else to leave that party with covid right? Or in reality they busted a swingers party and have no real fact that covid was involved in any way. This is called non-factual news.

Reposting non factual news, and labeling people who decide to go out and live as “spreaders” is the same VERY POOR TASTE as labeling all the homeless people in Pioneer Park as HIV STD needle junkies. You have facts to back that up to right? Or again, you’re throwing labels on people you feel are less than you and don’t fit nor follow your views. I’m sorry but those people living in the park are people too.

We love swinging because we love people. New faces, old faces, all of them. We have dear friends in the lifestyle we do NOT share the same views on politics nor covid. But when you sit down and hang out you find that we are all so similar. We wanna live happily, feel safe, and have a little fun when we can.

What the world needs right now is love and compassion, not finger pointing and blame. How about we all make a deal on this forum to only post when we have something positive to say about someone else, or something fun and exciting we want to try or do. When we have an urge to repost or comment on something negative we put the phone down, take a deep breath, and put that energy towards something positive like pleasing our spouse or sending a lifestyle friend a compliment and let all the negative shit get buried under the positive!
Sm435 wrote:

There is no argument nor debate. Sorry for you mask protagonists, but you lost. There are mandates all over the country and we still keep pumping out huge numbers of new cases every single day.
The only thing this mask mandate ever did was enable people to feel empowered and place blame in others. We are all fighting the same virus, all of us, but people who buy in and think they are better or smarter than others take this as a way to point fingers.
You posted a news story that labeled every swinger at that a party as a SPREADER and the party it’s self as a SUPERSPREADER event. This is 100% backed up by facts that includes testing everyone at the party for covid, finding some with advanced cases that cause almost everyone else to leave that party with covid right? Or in reality they busted a swingers party and have no real fact that covid was involved in any way. This is called non-factual news.
Reposting non factual news, and labeling people who decide to go out and live as “spreaders” is the same VERY POOR TASTE as labeling all the homeless people in Pioneer Park as HIV STD needle junkies. You have facts to back that up to right? Or again, you’re throwing labels on people you feel are less than you and don’t fit nor follow your views. I’m sorry but those people living in the park are people too.
We love swinging because we love people. New faces, old faces, all of them. We have dear friends in the lifestyle we do NOT share the same views on politics nor covid. But when you sit down and hang out you find that we are all so similar. We wanna live happily, feel safe, and have a little fun when we can.
What the world needs right now is love and compassion, not finger pointing and blame. How about we all make a deal on this forum to only post when we have something positive to say about someone else, or something fun and exciting we want to try or do. When we have an urge to repost or comment on something negative we put the phone down, take a deep breath, and put that energy towards something positive like pleasing our spouse or sending a lifestyle friend a compliment and let all the negative shit get buried under the positive!


This. 👆
Sm435 wrote:

There is no argument nor debate. Sorry for you mask protagonists, but you lost. There are mandates all over the country and we still keep pumping out huge numbers of new cases every single day.
The only thing this mask mandate ever did was enable people to feel empowered and place blame in others. We are all fighting the same virus, all of us, but people who buy in and think they are better or smarter than others take this as a way to point fingers.
You posted a news story that labeled every swinger at that a party as a SPREADER and the party it’s self as a SUPERSPREADER event. This is 100% backed up by facts that includes testing everyone at the party for covid, finding some with advanced cases that cause almost everyone else to leave that party with covid right? Or in reality they busted a swingers party and have no real fact that covid was involved in any way. This is called non-factual news.
Reposting non factual news, and labeling people who decide to go out and live as “spreaders” is the same VERY POOR TASTE as labeling all the homeless people in Pioneer Park as HIV STD needle junkies. You have facts to back that up to right? Or again, you’re throwing labels on people you feel are less than you and don’t fit nor follow your views. I’m sorry but those people living in the park are people too.
We love swinging because we love people. New faces, old faces, all of them. We have dear friends in the lifestyle we do NOT share the same views on politics nor covid. But when you sit down and hang out you find that we are all so similar. We wanna live happily, feel safe, and have a little fun when we can.
What the world needs right now is love and compassion, not finger pointing and blame. How about we all make a deal on this forum to only post when we have something positive to say about someone else, or something fun and exciting we want to try or do. When we have an urge to repost or comment on something negative we put the phone down, take a deep breath, and put that energy towards something positive like pleasing our spouse or sending a lifestyle friend a compliment and let all the negative shit get buried under the positive!


Very spot on. I have said this since it started, all of these mandates are a way to instill fear into American people. They have NO evidence or science that is accurate to prove that social distancing or masks are even helping. NONE. and many doctors agree that they have no evidence or science behind this. So quit pushing a narrative of false assumptions.

If you are buying into the nonsense, I feel for you, because you have been mislead into a false sense of security. YES masks and gowns work in a sterile environment! But the minute you touch money, food, clothing, railings, etc.... you have now contaminated that mask because I promise that you have adjusted it with your hands after you went shopping.

If you really want to say this works, sterilize your home, do not go anywhere, and do not order anything online. Survive on what you have without stepping foot outside for months. Then you can say you did your part!
Sm435 wrote:

There is no argument nor debate. Sorry for you mask protagonists, but you lost. There are mandates all over the country and we still keep pumping out huge numbers of new cases every single day.
The only thing this mask mandate ever did was enable people to feel empowered and place blame in others. We are all fighting the same virus, all of us, but people who buy in and think they are better or smarter than others take this as a way to point fingers.
You posted a news story that labeled every swinger at that a party as a SPREADER and the party it’s self as a SUPERSPREADER event. This is 100% backed up by facts that includes testing everyone at the party for covid, finding some with advanced cases that cause almost everyone else to leave that party with covid right? Or in reality they busted a swingers party and have no real fact that covid was involved in any way. This is called non-factual news.
Reposting non factual news, and labeling people who decide to go out and live as “spreaders” is the same VERY POOR TASTE as labeling all the homeless people in Pioneer Park as HIV STD needle junkies. You have facts to back that up to right? Or again, you’re throwing labels on people you feel are less than you and don’t fit nor follow your views. I’m sorry but those people living in the park are people too.
We love swinging because we love people. New faces, old faces, all of them. We have dear friends in the lifestyle we do NOT share the same views on politics nor covid. But when you sit down and hang out you find that we are all so similar. We wanna live happily, feel safe, and have a little fun when we can.
What the world needs right now is love and compassion, not finger pointing and blame. How about we all make a deal on this forum to only post when we have something positive to say about someone else, or something fun and exciting we want to try or do. When we have an urge to repost or comment on something negative we put the phone down, take a deep breath, and put that energy towards something positive like pleasing our spouse or sending a lifestyle friend a compliment and let all the negative shit get buried under the positive!


👏👏👏

I love it when somebody says what I'm thinking!
That's crazy! Leave people alone! If we want to get together, leave us alone! This is so frustrating!😢🤬
EVILDOERS wrote:

On a not wholly unrelated note, over 600 people died of COVID today in California, so maybe we here in little ole Utahr don't have quite the same perspective about COVID that they do right now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


But I don’t think anyone in CA has died of anything other than Covid since March LOL ... Is it really plausible that no one has died of the regular flu this season ... 🤔 ... must be the masks 😷 haha
I’ll be honest and say I feel terrible jumping into this online mess again. It seems there are so many tools out there for all of us to point fingers, argue, and simply divide us all.

I shouldn’t have jumped in and helped turn something that was likely meant to be funny into another argument. Everyone has the right to feel safe and secure and I hope you do whatever you need to do that, I just hope people tread lightly pushing those views onto others.

EVILDOERS Has always been a refreshing light on this forum with great advice for newbs and the funniest twist on everything. I apologize.

Hopefully I can do better and only add positivity to our great Utah swingers community to make 2021 better.
So which type of mask do you see most people wear? Medical or cloth?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article

More scientific studies and evidence. Google is great.

https://www.livescience.com/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html
Well, since you said..."There are mandates all over the country and we still keep pumping out huge numbers of new cases every single day.", I don't suppose you see the irony of your post juxtaposed with a news story about people at a big swing party getting together WITHOUT masks?

But here's a funny meme just so ya know I ain't mad.

https://i.redd.it/f1j4ocfu41d51.jpg
notswingers wrote:

Cloth, of course. That's a great article! It says:
"Until a cloth mask design is proven to be equally effective as a medical or N95 mask, wearing cloth masks should not be mandated for healthcare workers. In community settings, however, cloth masks may be used to prevent community spread of infections by sick or asymptomatically infected persons, and the public should be educated about their correct use."
So I'm not sure what your point was.
Purely educational was my point. Each person can read and understand and learn for them to make better informed decisions.
Not that anybody should or would remotely care but Ms. Evil and I have quite a large variety of masks that we use for different purposes. Dual or triple-layer cloth masks for going to the store and such, dual or triple-layer, more BREATHABLE cloth masks that we use at the gym (while social distancing as much as humanly possible and we try to go during WAY off-peak hours- burpees and heavy squats at 3am SUCK!), the masks we use at work (N-95, KN-95, and KF-94 masks which are the Korean equiv. of N-95 and have often tested BETTER at filtering out the virus than most N-95 masks)...oh, and we also use those same hardcore masks in the rare instance that we might be in a situation that is unpredictably crowded and difficult to social distance. We're still waiting for our quadruple layer swing/orgy masks with detachable dildos.



This link is better.