Swingers Forum - Hair Removal Risk/Benefit

I hope EVILDOERS finds this post and adds some lighthearted comic relief. 🥴

Screenshots of all text less research references from the linked PDF. Now it’s a two minute read.

I can’t believe I’m lucky enough to be catching this live!

Thanks for the info

Sofutosuwappu wrote:

I hope EVILDOERS finds this post and ads some lighthearted comic relief. 🥴

Sorry, this is the best I can do until I get a LOT more coffee in me!

We have an non-intimate vanilla acquaintance, that caught a strain of HPV and could not clear it, that has had numerous surgeries on her lady parts, and uses chemotherapy cream on a regular basis. It’s unsettling to hear about these sorts of health risk, but to ignore the existence of risk is not at all wise.

There are preventative measures and then there is the luck of the genetic raffle. Most of us in the lifestyle, well most anyone, who has ever been sexually active, even just a little, and probably the majority of adults, sexually active or not, have probably been exposed to some strain of HPV, and most of us never had symptoms and just cleared the virus. Me personally, I’m strep resistant. I actually seem to be able to kill streptococcus through my own secondary immune system. When the kids or the wife would catch it and be symptomatic and start their antibiotics to kill it, I would test positive, without being symptomatic. Go back a day later and I would test negative. Rather than taking antibiotics for no reason I just sort of stayed away from people until they had been on antibiotics for a day. I don’t get sick but I could carry strep until I seem to just kill it. I have maybe been sick three days in the last fifteen years. Mrs. Delicious gets sick maybe four times a year. It’s the luck of the draw. Neither of us have ever had a cold sore, and I doubt we that neither of us have ever been exposed to that virus.

Swinging carries with it higher risk than monogamy. Living an active life of any kind contains some risk and some reward. People say that a lot of swingers are flakes. Maybe they just hold from hooking up until they feel the potential for reward is worth the risk.

DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:

We have an non-intimate vanilla acquaintance, that caught a strain of HPV and could not clear it, that has had numerous surgeries on her lady parts, and uses chemotherapy cream on a regular basis. It’s unsettling to hear about these sorts of health risk, but to ignore the existence of risk is not at all wise.
There are preventative measures and then there is the luck of the genetic raffle. Most of us in the lifestyle, well most anyone, who has ever been sexually active, even just a little, and probably the majority of adults, sexually active or not, have probably been exposed to some strain of HPV, and most of us never had symptoms and just cleared the virus. Me personally, I’m strep resistant. I actually seem to be able to kill streptococcus through my own secondary immune system. When the kids or the wife would catch it and be symptomatic and start their antibiotics to kill it, I would test positive, without being symptomatic. Go back a day later and I would test negative. Rather than taking antibiotics for no reason I just sort of stayed away from people until they had been on antibiotics for a day. I don’t get sick but I could carry strep until I seem to just kill it. I have maybe been sick three days in the last fifteen years. Mrs. Delicious gets sick maybe four times a year. It’s the luck of the draw. Neither of us have ever had a cold sore, and I doubt we that neither of us have ever been exposed to that virus.
Swinging carries with it higher risk than monogamy. Living an active life of any kind contains some risk and some reward. People say that a lot of swingers are flakes. Maybe they just hold from hooking up until they feel the potential for reward is worth the risk.

I’m guessing the risk-benefit decision changes before and after enduring an STD/STI. I’m guessing most of us would be more risk averse after being infected, but that might depend on the kind and duration of infection. Bacterial infections are seemingly easier to treat (antibiotics vs antivirals).

Molliscum is reported to be self-limiting and can take between 6 months to 4 years to clear! Yikes!

RICHARDBURTON wrote:

Correlation does not indicate causation.

I agree. I believe the doctors also agree and that is why they used language like “could” and “possible”

EVILDOERS wrote:

Human beings are famously terrible at risk assesment. Many greatly fear flying and the risk of dying in a plane crash when statistically they are FAR more likely to die driving to WalMart. It's similar, I think, in risk to STI's in the lifestyle.
First of all, there are many, including this particular one, that are quite easy to contract even while using condoms (we won't even TALK about unprotected oral which is ubiquitous throughout swinging) vs. using condoms for something like HIV which is exponentially harder to contract even without condoms though, admittedly, is a much more serious infection if you do manage to contract it. Bottom line, know the REAL risks and make peace with those risks or take up a differenhobby...bowling is fun. *shrug*

Agreed. We must “know the REAL” risks.

I posted this information, BECAUSE knowing (being informed) empowers us to be at peace with consequences AND prevents the spread of disease to others and ourselves as would be the case of self-inoculation of Molluscum.

For the record, a cure or quick treatment for Molluscum is VERY low on the priority list for doctors and scientists. Emotional and social side effects are the greatest concern in people who are not immunocompromised. I would suggest that Molluscum is not a “REAL” threat at all to your physical health. Emotional and social heath are at greatest risk.

I hope this thread doesn’t convince anyone to leaving the lifestyle. My intention was to merely point out some facts that were not obvious to me when we first assessed the risks of participating in the lifestyle.

I would love to hear from couples that have lived the lifestyle for an extended period and have “dodged bullets” so to speak. Whatever you are doing or not doing is obviously working. This doesn’t imply what you have or have not done to prevent disease will work for everyone. Some of us are more resistant/immune to disease.