When we signed up here, and made our first post in the classifieds, we wanted to watch another couple then retreat to a different room for our own romp. We were not interested in making friends. We just wanted to watch, get it on, then everyone be on their way with no strings attached.
Long story short: We ended up connecting with a very nice and respectful Swingular couple in SLC who graciously put on a show for us. We met at a club, decided all was good, went back to our hotel, watched, and boom.
We thought we had it all figured out beforehand. We didn't. It served as a great learning experience for us though. On the drive back to Idaho, we decided to go back to the drawing board.
We're now thinking we'd like to develop a friendship with another couple...a couple who, like us, are new to this and curious...or an experienced couple who may be a little shy or don't mind moving slow. Currently, we are not interested in swapping. For now, we'd like to focus on getting to know a couple who have similar outdoor interests.
If there's chemistry, we like the idea of flirting, tasteful and sensual (or therapeutic) massage..... some watching followed by same room sex. But we're just thinking aloud here. We are the least pushy people you'll meet. We'd like to enter a relationship and let it grow naturally rather than trying to meet some goal or preconceived idea. We're open to ideas and discussing fantasies, desires, comfort levels, etc.
Though we are not prudes, the heavier side of the lifestyle is not for us (gang bangs, orgies). However, the rest has really piqued our curiosities. We even have a certain and strange admiration for those who can let it all hang out. But, our current interest and comfort level is with the softer side... and we would like to explore that with friends we could have fun with outside of any sexual context.
If you're in a similar frame of mind, check out our profile. Please read it thoroughly and carefully. If it seems we could be a match, send us a message. Don't be shy or we won't know you're out there. Reach out!
NOTE: Due to discretion, we will likely not accept a friend request unless we feel there's something in your profile that draws us in (that will take more than a couple sentences and a single pic or two in your "public photo album"😉).....or, until we get to know you via a series of messages and it seems a meeting could take place. So, send a message instead of a friend request. 👍
Long story short: We ended up connecting with a very nice and respectful Swingular couple in SLC who graciously put on a show for us. We met at a club, decided all was good, went back to our hotel, watched, and boom.
We thought we had it all figured out beforehand. We didn't. It served as a great learning experience for us though. On the drive back to Idaho, we decided to go back to the drawing board.
We're now thinking we'd like to develop a friendship with another couple...a couple who, like us, are new to this and curious...or an experienced couple who may be a little shy or don't mind moving slow. Currently, we are not interested in swapping. For now, we'd like to focus on getting to know a couple who have similar outdoor interests.
If there's chemistry, we like the idea of flirting, tasteful and sensual (or therapeutic) massage..... some watching followed by same room sex. But we're just thinking aloud here. We are the least pushy people you'll meet. We'd like to enter a relationship and let it grow naturally rather than trying to meet some goal or preconceived idea. We're open to ideas and discussing fantasies, desires, comfort levels, etc.
Though we are not prudes, the heavier side of the lifestyle is not for us (gang bangs, orgies). However, the rest has really piqued our curiosities. We even have a certain and strange admiration for those who can let it all hang out. But, our current interest and comfort level is with the softer side... and we would like to explore that with friends we could have fun with outside of any sexual context.
If you're in a similar frame of mind, check out our profile. Please read it thoroughly and carefully. If it seems we could be a match, send us a message. Don't be shy or we won't know you're out there. Reach out!
NOTE: Due to discretion, we will likely not accept a friend request unless we feel there's something in your profile that draws us in (that will take more than a couple sentences and a single pic or two in your "public photo album"😉).....or, until we get to know you via a series of messages and it seems a meeting could take place. So, send a message instead of a friend request. 👍
Totally understand where you are coming from. Definitely difficult to navigate at times and with so many different levels and preferences finding 4 people that all can agree on them as well as attracted to each other can be challenging.
Thanks. It was easy to hook-up with a couple who were happy to give us a show. But, like you said, I'm guessing this quest will be much more of a challenge.
That said, I've had a fair bit of correspondence with another half of a couple who are in a similar boat. Distance, timing, life... it all gets in the way of an easy meeting.
That said, I've had a fair bit of correspondence with another half of a couple who are in a similar boat. Distance, timing, life... it all gets in the way of an easy meeting.
Yes we find timing probably the biggest challenge. We all have our lives outside of those. This is more of a hobby than a full time Lifestyle for us.
Not an impossible request but one that, given your location and requirements, is in all probability going to be fairly difficult. Still, someone has to win the lottery every now and then and I'd like to think that your odds of finding a couple that meets all of your criteria, is attractive to both of you...and you to THEM, is at least a LITTLE more likely than picking the Powerball. *shrug*
EVILDOERS wrote:
Not an impossible request but one that, given your location and requirements, is in all probability going to be fairly difficult. Still, someone has to win the lottery every now and then and I'd like to think that your odds of finding a couple that meets all of your criteria, is attractive to both of you...and you to THEM, is at least a LITTLE more likely than picking the Powerball. *shrug*
This parade shall dance in the rain...all the way to the "Powerball"!
Yes, I know. Tall order. I've never been afraid of a challenge though. I find the rewards more gratifying than something that is easy. ;-)
There are couples and singles in the lifestyle, who have been in the lifestyle for a while, who also like to take things slow. Some don't want to just jump into bed, but they are aware of the many ins and outs of the lifestyle. I've been in the LS for years, but prefer to make friends, first, then decide if I want to go further if they, too, want to go further.
If you want a friendship with no sexual strings attached, I suggest you look for others who feel the same. Narrowing your search down to just newbies, or suggesting that's what you're looking for, limits your options. You might consider meeting people with the precondition that you don't swap, but you may reconsider at a later date.
If you want a friendship with no sexual strings attached, I suggest you look for others who feel the same. Narrowing your search down to just newbies, or suggesting that's what you're looking for, limits your options. You might consider meeting people with the precondition that you don't swap, but you may reconsider at a later date.
LILMISSRIDINGHOOD wrote:
There are couples and singles in the lifestyle, who have been in the lifestyle for a while, who also like to take things slow. Some don't want to just jump into bed, but they are aware of the many ins and outs of the lifestyle. I've been in the LS for years, but prefer to make friends, first, then decide if I want to go further if they, too, want to go further.
If you want a friendship with no sexual strings attached, I suggest you look for others who feel the same. Narrowing your search down to just newbies, or suggesting that's what you're looking for, limits your options. You might consider meeting people with the precondition that you don't swap, but you may reconsider at a later date.
Thanks for your input. It is appreciated! Our thinking with looking for newbies was that we could all be nervous together and learn together. However, it's not like we know our way around these waters. All this has actually been very humbling to me (male half). I'm used to diving into things and doing well from the start. Here though.... it all feels so foreign, intimidating. Maybe it's due to my wife and I marrying right out of HS. We dated others in HS but that was so long ago with entirely different maturity levels.
At any rate, your point is well taken. We welcome any advice and constructive criticism we can get. Thanks again!
Canvas wrote:LILMISSRIDINGHOOD wrote:
There are couples and singles in the lifestyle, who have been in the lifestyle for a while, who also like to take things slow. Some don't want to just jump into bed, but they are aware of the many ins and outs of the lifestyle. I've been in the LS for years, but prefer to make friends, first, then decide if I want to go further if they, too, want to go further.
If you want a friendship with no sexual strings attached, I suggest you look for others who feel the same. Narrowing your search down to just newbies, or suggesting that's what you're looking for, limits your options. You might consider meeting people with the precondition that you don't swap, but you may reconsider at a later date.
Thanks for your input. It is appreciated! Our thinking with looking for newbies was that we could all be nervous together and learn together. However, it's not like we know our way around these waters. All this has actually been very humbling to me (male half). I'm used to diving into things and doing well from the start. Here though.... it all feels so foreign, intimidating. Maybe it's due to my wife and I marrying right out of HS. We dated others in HS but that was so long ago with entirely different maturity levels.
At any rate, your point is well taken. We welcome any advice and constructive criticism we can get. Thanks again!
What, specifically, feels intimidating? Or perhaps a better question would be what do you fear? Are you afraid that one of you will fall in love with a playmate and leave the marriage? Or that one or both of you will like swinging too much and become big ole sluts? LOL Or maybe you're afraid of contracting a horrific sexually transmitted disease and your junk will fall off? *grin*
Most of us are TERRIBLY bad at risk assessment and more often than not we fear things that are statistically FAR less likely to happen than things we don't seem to fear all that much. Some people won't fly in planes even though they are FAR less likely to die in a plane crash than driving their car to Walmart. And many swingers are deathly afraid of getting AIDS even though it's really quite hard to contract compared to, say, HSV, which most adults have actually already been exposed to. Identifying why you're intimidated might be a better use of your time than trying to find a needle in a haystack.
But in the end, do what you're comfortable doing. If you think finding another newbie couple is the least intimidating way to dip your toes in then, by all means, do that. Those of us who have been around the scene for a while, however, could tell you some of the drawbacks to meeting people who are newbies.
Personally, we would seek out a more experienced couple, albeit one who is NOT pushy and is willing to go at your pace and is looking for friendship more than sex. The reason I say that is if things DO turn sexual, a more experienced couple is less likely to freak out or have other issues that they haven't already dealt with. Either way, good luck.
I agree with Evil. Noobs don't have experience with the problems that exist in the lifestyle (LS). People who have been in the LS for an extended time will hopefully have some knowledge they have accumulated, be good teachers and understanding of your desires. There is a huge spectrum that people fall under. Some want to plan a fuck date on friday at 7 pm and by Thor there had better be fucking happening. Others want to have friends, take things slow, and maybe not even be sexual. Hopefully an experienced couple will know what they are looking for and be able to help you on your journey while respecting your needs. On the flip side, it can be fun to meet another noob couple and to experiment slowly, discover new things and be mischievous together. But I certainly wouldn't limit yourself to a specific subset of the population. Also, you may find that your rules or desires quickly change and that you progress faster than you expected or that perhaps the whole thing just isn't for you. Or maybe you just want to be voyeurs or exhibitionists and never swap or share. And don't let people bully you into believing there is only one way to do all of this correctly. Many forum posts will have you thinking you are strange or shouldn't be in the LS if you don't show up to the party with cock in hand ready to fuck. That's great for some. This is your journey. It's very normal to feel nervous and that will probably pass. Do it like you want and damn the torpedoes. And if you can't join em, don't fuck em.
MR SRO
MR SRO
EVILDOERS wrote:
What, specifically, feels intimidating? Or perhaps a better question would be what do you fear? Are you afraid that one of you will fall in love with a playmate and leave the marriage? Or that one or both of you will like swinging too much and become big ole sluts? LOL Or maybe you're afraid of contracting a horrific sexually transmitted disease and your junk will fall off? *grin*
Most of us are TERRIBLY bad at risk assessment and more often than not we fear things that are statistically FAR less likely to happen than things we don't seem to fear all that much. Some people won't fly in planes even though they are FAR less likely to die in a plane crash than driving their car to Walmart. And many swingers are deathly afraid of getting AIDS even though it's really quite hard to contract compared to, say, HSV, which most adults have actually already been exposed to. Identifying why you're intimidated might be a better use of your time than trying to find a needle in a haystack.
But in the end, do what you're comfortable doing. If you think finding another newbie couple is the least intimidating way to dip your toes in then, by all means, do that. Those of us who have been around the scene for a while, however, could tell you some of the drawbacks to meeting people who are newbies.
Personally, we would seek out a more experienced couple, albeit one who is NOT pushy and is willing to go at your pace and is looking for friendship more than sex. The reason I say that is if things DO turn sexual, a more experienced couple is less likely to freak out or have other issues that they haven't already dealt with. Either way, good luck.
Damn! You must be like an intuitive or something. Yes, my biggest fear is my wiener falling off...and then, my libido cruelly kicking into overdrive. Can you imagine???!!!😳
I believe my use of "intimidating" was a little off. How about nervous? You know...a little jittery, some anxiousness, and excitement all rolled into one...sorta what you'd feel if you were a beginner.😉
Re HIV/AIDS: Looking at the statistics doesn't comfort me in the context of hard core LSing. Now, I could mentally reshape those numbers to suit my desires but...really, it's of no concern to me as we're not interested in the harder side of things.
Thanks for your input. I have made a few adjustments to my post and our profile.
SAMEROOMONLY wrote:
I agree with Evil. Noobs don't have experience with the problems that exist in the lifestyle (LS). People who have been in the LS for an extended time will hopefully have some knowledge they have accumulated, be good teachers and understanding of your desires. There is a huge spectrum that people fall under. Some want to plan a fuck date on friday at 7 pm and by Thor there had better be fucking happening. Others want to have friends, take things slow, and maybe not even be sexual. Hopefully an experienced couple will know what they are looking for and be able to help you on your journey while respecting your needs. On the flip side, it can be fun to meet another noob couple and to experiment slowly, discover new things and be mischievous together. But I certainly wouldn't limit yourself to a specific subset of the population. Also, you may find that your rules or desires quickly change and that you progress faster than you expected or that perhaps the whole thing just isn't for you. Or maybe you just want to be voyeurs or exhibitionists and never swap or share. And don't let people bully you into believing there is only one way to do all of this correctly. Many forum posts will have you thinking you are strange or shouldn't be in the LS if you don't show up to the party with cock in hand ready to fuck. That's great for some. This is your journey. It's very normal to feel nervous and that will probably pass. Do it like you want and damn the torpedoes. And if you can't join em, don't fuck em.
MR SRO
Excellent. Thanks for your thoughtful post!
TightAndDelightsome wrote:
Canvas, in all honesty,I feel you guys will do great. Granted, I’ve only talked to you, but you’re smart, patient, and you stick to your plan, it’s hard to imagine Mrs Canvas being much different.
As a thought experiment, we as noobie couples, if we were set up to play Together, I could see the two of us not knowing how to pull the trigger. And collapsing into an infinite regress of “yeps” and “mhmms” 😆 where the pros already know how to break the ice. Don’t get me wrong, it’d be fun to try, but like the others have said, maybe it’s best to learn from the pros. 🤔 but. it’s. the. pros recommending you go with them... maybe they’re just trying to steal pussy out from the hands of the noobs??? You sly dogs MR. EVIL and MR. SRO 😈
I’m hoping you guys find what your looking for 🍻
Ha! You're awesome! 👍
TightAndDelightsome wrote:
Canvas, in all honesty,I feel you guys will do great. Granted, I’ve only talked to you, but you’re smart, patient, and you stick to your plan, it’s hard to imagine Mrs Canvas being much different.
As a thought experiment, we as noobie couples, if we were set up to play Together, I could see the two of us not knowing how to pull the trigger. And collapsing into an infinite regress of “yeps” and “mhmms” 😆 where the pros already know how to break the ice. Don’t get me wrong, it’d be fun to try, but like the others have said, maybe it’s best to learn from the pros. 🤔 but. it’s. the. pros recommending you go with them... maybe they’re just trying to steal pussy out from the hands of the noobs??? You sly dogs MR. EVIL and MR. SRO 😈
I’m hoping you guys find what your looking for 🍻
LOL Actually, quite a few veteran lifestylers avoid newbies for the most part (Never say never, right?) and have at least one or two stories where newbies freaked out when the panties hit the floor. Oddly enough, on average, it's more often the guy who has the issues seeing his wife with another man.
We once met a new couple. Saw them a couple of times for drinks and conversation, once even at their home. We then planned a play date at a hotel. Things seemed fine and we'd progressed to being mostly undressed and the ladies had started playing just with each other a little bit. Suddenly the guy got up and walked into the bathroom. Nobody seemed to think anything of it and the girls continued to play. After about fifteen minutes he hadn't returned and his wife finally said, "I'd better go check on him." We waited probably at LEAST another 30 minutes before she returned and informed us that it wasn't going to happen and that we needed to leave. WTF? WE paid for the hotel room! LOL But apparently he was having some issues and one of them was his refusal to come out of the bathroom while we were still there. So we got up, got dressed, and proceeded to drive the long 'drive of shame' home. LOL
ONE4FUNSLC wrote:
I use to hang with a couple that lived in Bliss, Id. a few years ago. They were a lot of fun. Don't know if they're still there.
One sure wouldn't know it from driving down the main drag...truck stop and all😆...but, there are some pretty cool and interesting folks around there, specifically down in the canyon, along the river and upstream into the next county. Many have come and gone but, there have been some long-time residents that are as interesting and good of folk as one will find anywhere.
EVILDOERS wrote:TightAndDelightsome wrote:
Canvas, in all honesty,I feel you guys will do great. Granted, I’ve only talked to you, but you’re smart, patient, and you stick to your plan, it’s hard to imagine Mrs Canvas being much different.
As a thought experiment, we as noobie couples, if we were set up to play Together, I could see the two of us not knowing how to pull the trigger. And collapsing into an infinite regress of “yeps” and “mhmms” 😆 where the pros already know how to break the ice. Don’t get me wrong, it’d be fun to try, but like the others have said, maybe it’s best to learn from the pros. 🤔 but. it’s. the. pros recommending you go with them... maybe they’re just trying to steal pussy out from the hands of the noobs??? You sly dogs MR. EVIL and MR. SRO 😈
I’m hoping you guys find what your looking for 🍻
LOL Actually, quite a few veteran lifestylers avoid newbies for the most part (Never say never, right?) and have at least one or two stories where newbies freaked out when the panties hit the floor. Oddly enough, on average, it's more often the guy who has the issues seeing his wife with another man.
We once met a new couple. Saw them a couple of times for drinks and conversation, once even at their home. We then planned a play date at a hotel. Things seemed fine and we'd progressed to being mostly undressed and the ladies had started playing just with each other a little bit. Suddenly the guy got up and walked into the bathroom. Nobody seemed to think anything of it and the girls continued to play. After about fifteen minutes he hadn't returned and his wife finally said, "I'd better go check on him." We waited probably at LEAST another 30 minutes before she returned and informed us that it wasn't going to happen and that we needed to leave. WTF? WE paid for the hotel room! LOL But apparently he was having some issues and one of them was his refusal to come out of the bathroom while we were still there. So we got up, got dressed, and proceeded to drive the long 'drive of shame' home. LOL
That is one bizarre experience!
Utahldscouple wrote:
Totally understand where you are coming from. Definitely difficult to navigate at times and with so many different levels and preferences finding 4 people that all can agree on them as well as attracted to each other can be challenging.
We find it nearly impossible...lol
JANDY275 wrote:Yeah both being straight makes it even more so!!!Utahldscouple wrote:
Totally understand where you are coming from. Definitely difficult to navigate at times and with so many different levels and preferences finding 4 people that all can agree on them as well as attracted to each other can be challenging.
We find it nearly impossible...lol
Everyone starts out with their own expectation and boundries. Sometime those boundries disappear and sometimes they dont. One thing we know for sure is the more limits you have the harder it is to find what your looking for. We are looking to have fun in the lifestyle and while we do have boudries we discuss this with the couples we may play with. If it does not work out that's ok we are never disappointed.
We have some great LS friends, some we play with and some we dont. Any couple you meet should be willing to participate within your boundries and you would be wise to make sure you all agree on what those are. Always be willing to walk away when it does not feel right, sure helps avoid drama.
We have some great LS friends, some we play with and some we dont. Any couple you meet should be willing to participate within your boundries and you would be wise to make sure you all agree on what those are. Always be willing to walk away when it does not feel right, sure helps avoid drama.
SKICOUPLE wrote:
One thing we know for sure is the more limits you have the harder it is to find what your looking for.
Thus far out, which isn't that far...that is the feeling we've begun to feel. Thanks for your input. Thanks to the other posters as well.
As a result of this thread, we have been contacted by a number of seemingly good folks, resulting in some nice conversations. Unfortunately, distance has been a hindrance. So, we are still searching for that "needle in a haystack"... the genuinely sincere and serious.
Firelight in the mountains, our skis are ready. Who would like to join? (read our profile to understand)
Firelight in the mountains, our skis are ready. Who would like to join? (read our profile to understand)
Loverofthewife wrote:
Just took a peek at the profile. The Mrs has a nice ass!You may want to rethink the karate pix on the Mr to be more appealing to the ladies. I’m sure some women will appreciate a prospective lover’s martial arts skills, but you might be ruling out a lot of ladies with that. My two cents...
Ha! Thanks. I'm pretty fond of her rear too!👍
Re the pics: Thanks for the feedback. I had mixed feelings about them, as it's an activity I keep on the down-low... and I am not normally a showy person. However, I thought some movement shots may be good... showing that, despite being a geezer, that I am still limber and can get things up in the air...like my feet and what not.
And...the pics were a bit different than what's normally seen on profiles. That said, with my mixed feelings, I wasn't sure whom may be turned off more... the ladies or the men. Would love to hear your opinion (or anyone else's) as to why those pics "might rule out a lot of ladies". Maybe a vote from the readers/lurkers is in order????? Who's in?
Loverofthewife wrote:
I like your openness to feedback! I was a little worried my comment would start a swinger brawl on here.
If there are 2 photos, and only 2 photos of the Mr available, you want to show off your best assets. If your only 2 photos are your karate moves, it might send the message that you are obsessed with karate, and probably therefore, socially challenged. Aaaaand there it is.
If you had 20 pix, some of them skiing, boating, and also a karate shot maybe I would be more forgiving.
Xo, The Wife
Great feedback that's understood. Thanks! A passion at one point but not obsessed now by any stretch. Mostly a fun way to keep the joints lubed and muscles limber. Thankfully, I'm not socially challenged but adaptable and a bit of a social butterfly. Regardless, I will get some more pics up soon...and will be looking for your forgiveness.😉
We're similar but honestly Idaho is to far for us. We go to lava annually and I do hot spring trips there but that's it. Any couple is welcome to join us on the stansbury island naked beach.
Loverofthewife wrote:
I like your openness to feedback! I was a little worried my comment would start a swinger brawl on here.
If there are 2 photos, and only 2 photos of the Mr available, you want to show off your best assets. If your only 2 photos are your karate moves, it might send the message that you are obsessed with karate, and probably therefore, socially challenged. Aaaaand there it is.
If you had 20 pix, some of them skiing, boating, and also a karate shot maybe I would be more forgiving.
Xo, The Wife
Alrighty. If you haven't already, and would like to, take a peek. I have revamped our photos. Feedback welcome...and of course, forgiveness.
what to do when u hate to have pic taken
Sorry for the delayed feedback. We both loved the pics of your wife too. They are soft and sensual and left us both wanting more. Your pics are fine - but we agree with the wife that we were not sure how to take the karate oic - wasn’t a turn off per se .... just didn’t know what to make of it.
We loved the number of photos of you two being active - that appeals to us. We are always looking for people we can be friends with first - people we like to do things with. That ALWAYS results in a better connection when/if everyone gets naked! 😉😳.
For the record .... we feel the same way about pics. Neither of us likes to take them or have them taken ... and it’s hard to show who you are in a picture. That said .... most people are on here in hopes of connecting with someone they can eventually get naked with .... so we recognize that we have to show them enough so that they know what they would be in for. I mean ... if they don’t like how you look naked in a picture .... better to be rejected online than than in person ..... don’t you think?? Having said that ... we have found that the connection trumps EVERYTHING. So many times we met people at Desire who we were not initially attracted to (not repulsed by them either)... but whom, after we got to know them better we were extremely attracted to. We think it’s important to keep the door opened for that possibility. At the end of the day, probably important to put your best foot forward on the pics. We have plenty of anxiety about our pics ... but, we are who we are. Love your open attitude - THAT will win you many, many friends from our perspective.
We loved the number of photos of you two being active - that appeals to us. We are always looking for people we can be friends with first - people we like to do things with. That ALWAYS results in a better connection when/if everyone gets naked! 😉😳.
For the record .... we feel the same way about pics. Neither of us likes to take them or have them taken ... and it’s hard to show who you are in a picture. That said .... most people are on here in hopes of connecting with someone they can eventually get naked with .... so we recognize that we have to show them enough so that they know what they would be in for. I mean ... if they don’t like how you look naked in a picture .... better to be rejected online than than in person ..... don’t you think?? Having said that ... we have found that the connection trumps EVERYTHING. So many times we met people at Desire who we were not initially attracted to (not repulsed by them either)... but whom, after we got to know them better we were extremely attracted to. We think it’s important to keep the door opened for that possibility. At the end of the day, probably important to put your best foot forward on the pics. We have plenty of anxiety about our pics ... but, we are who we are. Love your open attitude - THAT will win you many, many friends from our perspective.
SweettAndH wrote:
Sorry for the delayed feedback. We both loved the pics of your wife too. They are soft and sensual and left us both wanting more. Your pics are fine - but we agree with the wife that we were not sure how to take the karate oic - wasn’t a turn off per se .... just didn’t know what to make of it.
We loved the number of photos of you two being active - that appeals to us. We are always looking for people we can be friends with first - people we like to do things with. That ALWAYS results in a better connection when/if everyone gets naked! 😉😳.
For the record .... we feel the same way about pics. Neither of us likes to take them or have them taken ... and it’s hard to show who you are in a picture. That said .... most people are on here in hopes of connecting with someone they can eventually get naked with .... so we recognize that we have to show them enough so that they know what they would be in for. I mean ... if they don’t like how you look naked in a picture .... better to be rejected online than than in person ..... don’t you think?? Having said that ... we have found that the connection trumps EVERYTHING. So many times we met people at Desire who we were not initially attracted to (not repulsed by them either)... but whom, after we got to know them better we were extremely attracted to. We think it’s important to keep the door opened for that possibility. At the end of the day, probably important to put your best foot forward on the pics. We have plenty of anxiety about our pics ... but, we are who we are. Love your open attitude - THAT will win you many, many friends from our perspective.
Thanks for the feedback! We welcome and appreciate it... from anyone, any time.
Re the pic in question: Something I didn't mention previously, is that there's a deep historical connection between many of the martial arts and eastern philosophy (Buddhism, Taoism, etc)... and, though that pic represents but a very small part of the way I have been influenced by the philosophy... it does connect to what I wrote in our profile: "I have a playful sense of humor and diverse background influenced by eastern philosophy".
I like subtleties and delight when people notice... though I haven't any expectations nor am I let down or turned off when people don't connect the dots. They are often times faint, after all.
So, besides the pic showing a little skin in a different manner, and indicating I can still get things up despite being a geezer😂, there's a greater meaning... a connection to something else👆 (influence). Ultimately though, we hope that those who look at our profile will give pause and think something along the lines of "These people sound interesting...and fun!" which, if there are commonalities, will result in them reaching out.
Hope that was clearer than mud. 😀
Canvas wrote:
I like subtleties and delight when people notice... though I haven't any expectations nor am I let down or turned off when people don't connect the dots. They are often times faint, after all.
So, besides the pic showing a little skin in a different manner, and indicating I can still get things up despite being a geezer😂, there's a greater meaning... a connection to something else with perhaps the message that we may be an interesting couple worth getting to know.
Hope that was clearer than mud. 😀
You know what . . . I would leave the karate pic in then - maybe say something in your profile and talk about the connection. Buddists and Tao's are notorious for good sex practices . . . you may just want to connect the dots - Love the pics and looking forward to meeting you both at some point.