We just recently were insulted online when a couple we contacted told us that they were not interested in us because we were a full protection couple. My question to everyone, is does playing without protection really happen this much in the lifestyle? I ask this because this has never been an issue for us and to be criticized for using protection is unjust. The lifestyle has all kinds of likes/dislikes, fetishes and preferences and we should all be respectful of other peoples preferences - I mean really, isnt being open, nonjudgemental and just having plain fun what this is all about?
It seems amazing to me, with all due respect, that in this day and age people still beleive that they are not going to get a disease when they play around. It is even more amazing that people with children would play without protection and risk their children not having healthy parents. However, I respect all preferences, even if I don't agree with them. I am just curious if I am alone in my preference to use protection. To me, it is playing russian roulette and quite honestly very selfish to subject your partner, your children and your family to this type of behavior... PLAY ALL YOU WANT. HAVE ALL THE FUN YOU WANT AND DO IT UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME but for petes sake - BE SMART
It seems amazing to me, with all due respect, that in this day and age people still beleive that they are not going to get a disease when they play around. It is even more amazing that people with children would play without protection and risk their children not having healthy parents. However, I respect all preferences, even if I don't agree with them. I am just curious if I am alone in my preference to use protection. To me, it is playing russian roulette and quite honestly very selfish to subject your partner, your children and your family to this type of behavior... PLAY ALL YOU WANT. HAVE ALL THE FUN YOU WANT AND DO IT UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME but for petes sake - BE SMART
We strongly caution our kids about having unprotected sex, we wouldn't think about doing otherwise.
We want as much quality swing and other time together as possible.
Anyone having a problem with that can get screwed. (by someone else)
T&T
We want as much quality swing and other time together as possible.
Anyone having a problem with that can get screwed. (by someone else)
T&T
I agree totally! I don't see a reason for just avoiding safety when it is so easy to just put on a condom. I know you can still catch something but at least I know I tried to prevent it. It can be fun and still be safe. I am sure there was a time when everyone hasn't been safe but really I don't think it is worth it if all it takes is a condom. To each his own but noone should be insulted for your preferences on safety. We all have our opinions but shouldn't insult someone for them.
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Hey, Sex is great and everything, but we have no intention of dying from it 
Even though I am cut and so that isnt a issue, both my wife and I absolutely use protection. I wouldnt think it is a insulting thing to ask for, it is for the protection of all involved.
Were you actually criticized? Or were you simply turned down because the other party prefers not to use protection? Just because you insist on using protection doesn't mean everyone approaches swinging that way.
It is good that you know that difference between right, and stupid. You can not possibly feel you are missing something by not having the pleasure of seeing these people, can you?
Better safe than sorry guys. Our hat's off to you both.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
Better safe than sorry guys. Our hat's off to you both.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
The issue of others using or not using is really immaterial in this case. Most will do what they want. But to criticize you for wanting to do so is just wrong. If they chose not to be with you cuz you did is their choice and you not to cuz they won't is yours. I just have to observe that to expect all folks in this lifestyle to be open minded doesn't seem to be realistic. Many are just as closed minded as vanilla folks but then you found that out. A shame. Hell as good as the lady in your profile looks I would wear a trash bag if it was required. :-)
We prefer NOT to use condoms. We like the feel of flesh-on-flesh and being completely spontaneous - plus Brenda loves the feel and taste of cum. But then again we develop intimate friendships over time so by the time we do play we know if we should be safe, or not.
We respect couples who want safe sex. Going bareback has worked so far as we get tested twice a year and so far we're healthy!
We respect couples who want safe sex. Going bareback has worked so far as we get tested twice a year and so far we're healthy!
Being turned down isn't an insult. They just choose not to play with condoms, just as you choose to play with them. We generally don't use them. If others want to we will though. Everyone has their own choices and preferences. We've been swinging over 15 years, no condoms 95% of the time and never caught anything. It's about being selective.
Being turned down isn't an insult. They just choose not to play with condoms, just as you choose to play with them. We generally don't use them. If others want to we will though. Everyone has their own choices and preferences. We've been swinging over 15 years, no condoms 95% of the time and never caught anything. It's about being selective.
bareback couple but will use condom if others insist....we bareback with those with test from clinics we know.
MY only thought is why would you have unprotected sex with couples? Especially couples that are swingers and are having sex with multiple partners!! I mean the old saying goes when you sleep with someone you sleep with everyone they have slept with!
I guess to each is own but I don't know how you would want to put yourself at that kind of risk???
I guess to each is own but I don't know how you would want to put yourself at that kind of risk???
just my thought we use condoms, period, some chose not to but for us its a must, just because we like to feel safe although no method except abstain is 100 % safe, I even have different kinds in case someone is allergic to latex but that is just us with all the different things out there today, I just prefer to be as safe as possible
just my quarters worth
just my quarters worth
I knew it. Judging from all the replies in our email and on the forum, it is apparent that we are not the only "crazy" ones demanding protection. Thank everyone for clearing this up. It appears that we are in the majority here and the barebackers are in the minority.
Pare, I think you are being yourself, and you should not feel insulted by the turn down. We are a protection for penetration couple, and no one will change that for us. We enjoy our sex life, and enjoy sharing it with others, but, we are not taking any chances.
We also have very few sexual encounters outside our relationship, because for us, quality completely outweighs quantity. Swinging is a wonderful thing, and people approach it there way. I can understand the bareback couples also, the feeling is much better without condoms, but, I will not condemn them for their preference.
Swing your way, and you will find others that are just like you!
Ron
We also have very few sexual encounters outside our relationship, because for us, quality completely outweighs quantity. Swinging is a wonderful thing, and people approach it there way. I can understand the bareback couples also, the feeling is much better without condoms, but, I will not condemn them for their preference.
Swing your way, and you will find others that are just like you!
Ron
We have rarely used condoms and have been in the lifestyle for over the last 20 years. Most couples we have met don't use them. There are a lot of people who have alergic reactions to latex and some to spermicides.
Contrary to popular believe, using condoms is NOT safe sex. The ONLY safe sex is no sex at all. Condoms are only 85% effective. For every 100 times they are used, they will break 15 times. Usually, the break cannot been seen. Believe it or not, pubic hair will tear a condom. And, if you shave, your stubble is even sharper than if you don't shave. Condoms only stop two of the 7 or 8 major STD's. One of them is HIV. Condoms, however, do NOT stop HPV or herpies at all.
If you have oral sex without a condoms, you are still at a high risk. At any given time, nearly all people have some tear in their mouths. If you don't believe us, ask your dentist. And, the older you get, the more your gums recede giving direct access to your blood stream.
There seems to be a generation gap. Older couples who have been in the lifestyle for years know the fallacy of condoms. Younger couples actually believe they are safe using condoms.
Condoms only slightly reduce your overall risk of problems. The ONLY safe sex is NO sex.
Contrary to popular believe, using condoms is NOT safe sex. The ONLY safe sex is no sex at all. Condoms are only 85% effective. For every 100 times they are used, they will break 15 times. Usually, the break cannot been seen. Believe it or not, pubic hair will tear a condom. And, if you shave, your stubble is even sharper than if you don't shave. Condoms only stop two of the 7 or 8 major STD's. One of them is HIV. Condoms, however, do NOT stop HPV or herpies at all.
If you have oral sex without a condoms, you are still at a high risk. At any given time, nearly all people have some tear in their mouths. If you don't believe us, ask your dentist. And, the older you get, the more your gums recede giving direct access to your blood stream.
There seems to be a generation gap. Older couples who have been in the lifestyle for years know the fallacy of condoms. Younger couples actually believe they are safe using condoms.
Condoms only slightly reduce your overall risk of problems. The ONLY safe sex is NO sex.
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it's not an echo it's just you repeating yourself.are you drunk or what?
Most of the couples we play with don't use them but will on request. She prefers not to because she likes the feel of the cum in her and he doesn't care one way or the other.
In our opinion, if you have oral sex, you are still at risk. No real difference except for pregnancy.
In our opinion, if you have oral sex, you are still at risk. No real difference except for pregnancy.
we don't like to use them either wife love the taste of cum :z besides if your doing oral without a condom your just as much at risk cause if the person was with someone befour you going bareback you get something! or what about ladys playing together no condom there you can get something there from another lady!. just be seletive. have fun
So...I didn't read the entire thread....the intro was enough for me. PROTECTION!!! Are you serious??!! Any one who doesn't use it is (in my opinion) stupid. With all the STDs and for me the fact that I can still get preggo....too many "what if" posibilities to not use it. I do however think those of you who have been "fixed" are smart....can you imagine getting preggo while swinging?!:v
So, I guess a big FYI.......you play with us...bring some wrapers for your weiners!!
"Don't be silly!! Wrap your WILLEY!!"
~Mrs. Lookn
So, I guess a big FYI.......you play with us...bring some wrapers for your weiners!!
"Don't be silly!! Wrap your WILLEY!!"
~Mrs. Lookn
THESE PEOPLE ARE WEARING A BULLET PROOF VEST TO PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE.
We have been playing for over 10 years now and i think we have been asked to use condoms twice. We prefer bareback. We are very selective in whom we share ourselves with and that is the key to everything. We get tested anually and we have always been found clean. I think I would have more questions for a couple that required a condom than a couple that left the conversation open. We have intimate and detailed conversations with couple before we get in the sack. So, the condom question is open for us but more often than not we opt for no.
If a couple just came out and required that I ware a condom I would have to ask them some very serious questions like: If they are just paranoid? Not addressing the pregnancy concern themselves? Do they have something that they think they are PROTECTING me from?, so they felt that they just did not need to tell us about it because a condom is SAFE? I would probibly walk away unless there was a good reason.
The wife and I shared a female the other day and she required that i used a condom but that was due to her not using any other form of birth control. That was an exceptible reason and i wore a hat.
My last comment is to the people that think that the use of a condom is going to make a difference in the saftey of there bedroom situation. Other than pregnancy, I dont feel that a condom will make any diffence. The wife and I are very playfull in bed and if you think a condom will make you safe then you are not really exploring and enjoying you partners. THESE PEOPLE ARE WEARING A BULLET PROOF VEST TO PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE. I will have touched, corresed, kissed, licked and fingered every part of her body before my penis is involved. So think about that before you worry about a condom.:* :* :@
We have been playing for over 10 years now and i think we have been asked to use condoms twice. We prefer bareback. We are very selective in whom we share ourselves with and that is the key to everything. We get tested anually and we have always been found clean. I think I would have more questions for a couple that required a condom than a couple that left the conversation open. We have intimate and detailed conversations with couple before we get in the sack. So, the condom question is open for us but more often than not we opt for no.
If a couple just came out and required that I ware a condom I would have to ask them some very serious questions like: If they are just paranoid? Not addressing the pregnancy concern themselves? Do they have something that they think they are PROTECTING me from?, so they felt that they just did not need to tell us about it because a condom is SAFE? I would probibly walk away unless there was a good reason.
The wife and I shared a female the other day and she required that i used a condom but that was due to her not using any other form of birth control. That was an exceptible reason and i wore a hat.
My last comment is to the people that think that the use of a condom is going to make a difference in the saftey of there bedroom situation. Other than pregnancy, I dont feel that a condom will make any diffence. The wife and I are very playfull in bed and if you think a condom will make you safe then you are not really exploring and enjoying you partners. THESE PEOPLE ARE WEARING A BULLET PROOF VEST TO PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE. I will have touched, corresed, kissed, licked and fingered every part of her body before my penis is involved. So think about that before you worry about a condom.:* :* :@
We are more prone to going bareback as well because frankly condoms hurt! We have tried every lube known and even with the best of them I get raw pretty quick. We choose our partners carefully and hope that they do the same. I know that may seem reckless to some but condoms break and that's reckless as well. I'm not going to abstain so if I'm going to take a chance, I might as well enjoy it to the fullest.
Mrs T
Mrs T
LOOKN, what do you do about oral sex then?