THIS IS JUST A WARNING TO ALL OF YOU COUPLES OUT THERE. ME AND THE WIFE HAVE ONLY BEEN ON THIS WEB SITE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS NOW AND ARE STILL NEW TO THE LIFESTYLE. WHILE CURIOUS WE HAVE NOT FULLY SWAPPED YET JUST SOFT. WE HAVE ONLY MET WITH A FEW COUPLES PRIVATELY AT RESTURANTS AND SO FORTH.WE RECENTLY BOUGHT A WEB CAM AND HAVE BEEN REGULARS ON THE CHAT ROOM FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF. FOR THE MOST PART WE HAVE MET ALOT OF COOL PEOPLE AND HAVE HAD ALOT OF FUN TIMES. ALTHOUGH LIKE MOST OF YOU OUT THERE THIS LIFESTYLE IS FOR ADULT FUN AND FAMILY WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST. THE WIFE AND I GO ON CAM AROUND NINE THIRTY EVERYNIGHT AFTER WE GET OUR KIDS TO BED. ALTHOUGH I HAVNT BEEN ON HERE LONG I HAVE LEARNED THAT BEING CURTIOUS AND DESCREETFUL TO OTHERS IS KEY. WE ALL HAVE SOMEONE IN OUR LIFES THAT WOULDNT UNDERSTAND OR IS AGAINST IT. RECENTLY MY WIFE WAS PUTTING ON A "SHOW" FOR SOME OF OUR FRIENDS ON CAM. SOMEONE OUT THERE DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO TAPE HER, AND DIDNT STOP THERE SHE IS A FREIND OF A FRIEND OF MY EX-WIFE AND SENT THE TAPE TO HER. I DO HAVE A GOOD LEAD ON WHO THIS PERSON IS AND HOPEFULLY I CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS SITUATION BUT I AM ASKING FOR HELP AND SUPPORT FROM ALL YOU OUT THERE THAT HAS MUCH BETTER THINGS TO DO THEN SIT AROUND AND TRY TO RUIN OTHERS LIFES. I HAVE TWO KIDS WITH MY EX THAT I LOVE VERY MUCH AND NOW I AM IN DANGER OF LOSING THEM OVER SOME SIMPLE FUN "WHEN THE KIDS ARNT EVEN AROUND I REMIND YOU" SO PLEASE EVERYONE JUST RESPOND TO THIS TOPIC IN SHOWING SUPPORT TO KEEP PEOPLE LIKE THIS OFF THIS SITE. ITS PEOPLE LIKE THIS THAT GIVE BAD PLUBLICITY TO ALL OF US IN THIS LIFESTYLE, AND ITS PEOPLE LIKE THIS THAT KSL WOULD LOVE TO GET THERE HANDS ON FOR THE INTERVIEWS THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET. HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL SOON. THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP IN THIS SITUATION HADEN AND AMANDA
P.S- IM SORRY I HAD TO COME ON HERE AND RANT. I HOPE WE CAN ALL GET PAST THIS AND START HAVING FUN AGAIN.
P.S- IM SORRY I HAD TO COME ON HERE AND RANT. I HOPE WE CAN ALL GET PAST THIS AND START HAVING FUN AGAIN.
as far as the quality of the video im not to sure as it was not sent to us. And as far as the blackmail thing i dont think that is true unless they are trying to get something in return for the tape. they are simply using it against us
It's very dangerous to do stuff like that because nowa days there are so many programs that capture web video, pictures, even scrolling text in chat windows. One program is Snagit32
which can do it ALL, So when you go on a webcam anyone with the program anywhere in the world can "capture" your show including your audio, Save it a movie for replay later or even send it as a file to anyone's computer...Msg me for more info.. Please beware of these programs!!!
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Also i forgot to mention anyone with capture card software can even play your "captured" movie file on yahoo, Paltalk or netmeeting such programs like that and POSE as YOU!
Again ...very scary ..
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which can do it ALL, So when you go on a webcam anyone with the program anywhere in the world can "capture" your show including your audio, Save it a movie for replay later or even send it as a file to anyone's computer...Msg me for more info.. Please beware of these programs!!!
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Also i forgot to mention anyone with capture card software can even play your "captured" movie file on yahoo, Paltalk or netmeeting such programs like that and POSE as YOU!
Again ...very scary ..
M
Perhaps one should have watched what they were doing? We like others here and else were pulled many of our pics off and made them private only. I do agree its people who screw things up for the rest of us. But what do you think about a web master who was going to sit down with The Enemy, and just have a good old chat with them. Totaly agree with you But does one thing come to Mind "Like Cover Your Assets"? They can't record what they Don't See! There Really are some Rotten Bastards Out There. So If you want less problems minimize your Exposure. The Tool Man
Never ceases to amaze me at how assinine people are. This person who outed you would probably not care to have their stuff spread around. I don't consider myself a violent person but would love to slap the snot out of someone who would do that. Even if they had a grudge against you why would they screw with your kid's lives that way.
Haden: I have very-much enjoyed both of your contributions to the chat room here - and I haven't even seen the "naughty shows" that apparently were shared.
I will NOT chide you for not being careful enough. I think that we all need to ultimately be *more* aggressive in telling the public that *they* have it wrong: that the way to mess up a marriage is to define it as "who you fuck" rather than enjoying fucking "who is fun" and defining your *marriage* as "who you are mentally intimate with".
That's what we SHOULD be able to do.
But. I lost a job recently when I was having an email discussion with a woman - and we got into being really nasty. Ultimately, someone else read her email, was terribly offended - and got us both fired!! For a *discussion* between 2 consenting adults.
So. Society is still being driven by narrow-minded people who are terrified that somebody, somewhere is having a good time. And we all need to be careful.
As someone else said, unfortunately, you may need to limit your photos - keeping the "good stuff" for your "Private collection" - and you may need to protect yourself by being much less open with your lifestyle choices. That really sucks since "they win", but we don't have to give up - just beware that all it takes is *one* tight-ass to really screw things up.
Postscript: in case anyone cares, I got another job within hours - and it was a better position than the one I was kicked out of. But I'm being a lot more careful about who I discuss my "lifetstyle choices" with - at the new employer.
Please don't go away. Just be careful.
I will NOT chide you for not being careful enough. I think that we all need to ultimately be *more* aggressive in telling the public that *they* have it wrong: that the way to mess up a marriage is to define it as "who you fuck" rather than enjoying fucking "who is fun" and defining your *marriage* as "who you are mentally intimate with".
That's what we SHOULD be able to do.
But. I lost a job recently when I was having an email discussion with a woman - and we got into being really nasty. Ultimately, someone else read her email, was terribly offended - and got us both fired!! For a *discussion* between 2 consenting adults.
So. Society is still being driven by narrow-minded people who are terrified that somebody, somewhere is having a good time. And we all need to be careful.
As someone else said, unfortunately, you may need to limit your photos - keeping the "good stuff" for your "Private collection" - and you may need to protect yourself by being much less open with your lifestyle choices. That really sucks since "they win", but we don't have to give up - just beware that all it takes is *one* tight-ass to really screw things up.
Postscript: in case anyone cares, I got another job within hours - and it was a better position than the one I was kicked out of. But I'm being a lot more careful about who I discuss my "lifetstyle choices" with - at the new employer.
Please don't go away. Just be careful.
We're not too great with situations life this since we have never had to deal with something like this. We are also new so our opinion may not be worth much but one of the biggest reasons Felicia & I have joined this site and this lifestyle is because of the love and acceptance of others. For someone to go on our site and invade and ruin everything is wrong. being discrete is what we've learned this lifestyle is about. I am with Haden here ifwe can find this person we need to make sure that they have to pay the consquences for their rude and inconsiderate acts. We back you Haden!!!
Derek & Felicia
Derek & Felicia
It is to bad that people need to feel like they need to make moral judgment four every one on the planet it would be to every ones best interest if they would just jump off out of life when in fact there morals aren
We sorry that happend haden, we have enjoyed being in the chat rooms with you. Unfortunately, we see this closing an "open" room and creating more cliques...if you cant trust, you wont play. It certainly scared us a bit...Sincerly, we hope it resolves itself for the best for you two.
hi guys.....its ppl like the one(s) you encountered that make it bad for "society" as a whole.... dont ppl have better things to do with their time that "Literaly" fuck around and try to cause ppl problems... ive gotten a very odd adaptation to things in life... me i dont care what ppl say or think about me because the people that realy count are the ones that know me and they know diferent... its just a shame that there are thoes ppl out there that thrive on chaos... especialy if it doesnt concern them,... but they helped cause it.. those are the ppl that need the chaos to involve them in every aspect of their life and know what it is to loose something or someone dear to them and have the person that started it rub it in their face as carma.... to me i have a question for all... who said what is right????... someone sat down some time and decided that relationships (sexual) are to be only two people??? swinging isnt just about sex... it encompases fetishs, fantasys, curiousity fufillment, and so on... think about the thought that maby a ruler in ancient times when swinging was the norm.. and maby his or her significate other took swinging beyond the realms it is and fell in love... that caused the brake up maby even death sentence for the feelings.. so the ruler was so hurt and devistated that he/she passed a law forbidding multiple partners and thus thew norm was changed and only encompased sexual fufillment limited to two people only. sorry im writing a book.. the ancient egyptians as well as others all talk of having more than one sexual partner... so maby b4 the "crisis" that was the norm... maby all those out there that are monogomus (sp) (don't like the word so i cant spell it...hehehehe) in their relationship that think they are correct and proper in their beliefs, are the ones that are realy under a veil of lies and misleadings... hope i didnt step on too many toes... sorry if i did.. but everyone is entitled to express their opinion.. and that is my view on the subject. "people shouldn't stir the pot with their finger not knowing if it is cool or boiling first." to the person that recorded the video chat session.... get a life... and let others live their life as they choose... in other words.."GROW UP".. Dennis
well we want to thank all you that have left a post back to us
Who ever did this needs to be removed and banished from this site! Privacy and descetion are the two most important things in this Lifestyle. I hope the administration can find who this slime bag is.
Whoever did this to ya'll apparently doesn't know what privacy means, and we agree that something should be done about it. What we do in our private lives, away from kids or family, should be kept private. With webcamming, you just never know who is going to be stupid enough to tape you, and give it to an ex to make trouble. It seems like this "so-called friend" of yours you think may have did this, isn't really such a good friend after all. It would be really hard to be able to stay friends with such a person after this and I would let them know, in more ways than one...lol.
That's one of the reasons we won't web-cam on any site, because me and my husband have positions in the public eye that can't get out. It would ruin his chance at what he enjoys doing, not to mention future jobs and would put my work at jeopardy as well, and we won't give anyone that chance to make things difficult for us. I know web-camming is great for being able to met people w/out leaving your home, but sometimes you don't know who all is seeing you, and situations like this can occur, although we hope not often.
I hope you get this settled, and things smooth out and nothing bad comes of it all. Some people just can't let well enough alone. Privacy and discreetness are a most in our private playing and we respect others privacy at all times. Wished some of them out there had the same respect.
Good luck and keep enjoying the lifestyle.
That's one of the reasons we won't web-cam on any site, because me and my husband have positions in the public eye that can't get out. It would ruin his chance at what he enjoys doing, not to mention future jobs and would put my work at jeopardy as well, and we won't give anyone that chance to make things difficult for us. I know web-camming is great for being able to met people w/out leaving your home, but sometimes you don't know who all is seeing you, and situations like this can occur, although we hope not often.
I hope you get this settled, and things smooth out and nothing bad comes of it all. Some people just can't let well enough alone. Privacy and discreetness are a most in our private playing and we respect others privacy at all times. Wished some of them out there had the same respect.
Good luck and keep enjoying the lifestyle.
Sorry to hear what happened Privacy and Descetion are important factors in this lifestyle. Hope you find out who the asshole is.
I agree, if you know for sure who it was, you definately need to report them and they should be banned. Honesty and trust are so important in the lifestyle.There's no place here for someone like that. Sorry for your circumstances, Let us know if you need our help
Sorry to hear what happened to you and it goes to show that as much as you would like to be able to trust everyone in the lifestyle you simply can
We have used a site called anywebcam..Anyone know it?
anywebcam has been around a longtime i remember i joined up the first few weeks it was online. They had tons of server problems and they are based in australia which didnt make matters any better. I see now they have a great website if you wanna pay you can have more fun...
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When we want to play on cam we have a room on Paltalk that we can set with a password so that only those invited can log in. For just general viewing we don't password it. So far (knock on wood) we haven't had any problems. We have also had a person designated as a moderator with the power to bounce and even ban someone from the room. Kinda hard to watch what is going on while you are playing LOL.
Rob n Jan
Rob n Jan
A good way also is to take face pic's off and show something else that way we don't have any face pic's up never know who might find you and ex-spouse, family, preacher,and the list goes on sorry to hear about what happen to you guys. We just joined this site. We have been on a few other sites and I heard some having problems there also about being taped and blackmailed from the chatrooms and being on cam Maybe thats another reason why we really don't get naked on cam. never know who's eyes are watching you. And another thing everyone should put there handle on there pic's they get stolen also faster than you can think and those with tattoos I got some I make sure there covered up in all pic's they can give you away also we have been in the lifestyle for almost 2 1/2 yrs everyone keep your heads up and ears open that person is going to slip up and adimit what they done Mrs. Readysetgo
Wow, I would have read your post...but I don't like it when people yell at me.
we think that what happened to u guys was way wrong a friend that does something like that to hurt u is not much of a friend we r here if u guys ever want to chat ok haden we wish u the best in all u do