I just discovered that our profile has no pics on it but mine. So I asked Dana if she had done anything to our account. Turns out she's about to get some kind of certificate for working with composites, applied for a job at Hill AFB, and is worried that if there are pictures of her on the site the security investigation will find them and she won't get the job. She thinks FBI agents will be going around talking to everyone she knows, and every place she went to school or ever worked, and checking every single place on the internet to see if they can find anything about her.
Well maybe. I used to process clearances, and I know how that stuff works. If she'd need a Secret or garden variety Top Secret, it just isn't all that involved. All they do for those are a National Agency Check (computer criminal reords and fingerprints, or a Background Investigation (almost the same thing, basically, just a bit more detailed), respectively. But if she'd need a Top Secret with Restricted Access emdorsement, like Sensistive Compartmented Information, it requires a Special Bckground Investigation, and then people DO go around talking to nearly everyone they can find who ever knew you. I had to go through one of those once, and they talked to people I hadn't even remembered.
Does anyone happen to know just what level clearance a civilian working as a composites technician on the F22 or F35 at HAFB needs to have?
Meanwhile, she's still here, but her pics aren't. I guess to get any pics it'd take at least a message or something. At least, with only my pics being up, we won't keep getting those "I'm so and so, I've got a 6 foot dick, can we fuck?" messages anymore.
Well maybe. I used to process clearances, and I know how that stuff works. If she'd need a Secret or garden variety Top Secret, it just isn't all that involved. All they do for those are a National Agency Check (computer criminal reords and fingerprints, or a Background Investigation (almost the same thing, basically, just a bit more detailed), respectively. But if she'd need a Top Secret with Restricted Access emdorsement, like Sensistive Compartmented Information, it requires a Special Bckground Investigation, and then people DO go around talking to nearly everyone they can find who ever knew you. I had to go through one of those once, and they talked to people I hadn't even remembered.
Does anyone happen to know just what level clearance a civilian working as a composites technician on the F22 or F35 at HAFB needs to have?
Meanwhile, she's still here, but her pics aren't. I guess to get any pics it'd take at least a message or something. At least, with only my pics being up, we won't keep getting those "I'm so and so, I've got a 6 foot dick, can we fuck?" messages anymore.
If there's one thing I learned after years of my ex getting clearance to work alongside Secret Service and in proximity to POTUS, VPOTUS and their families (Joe Biden has a poorly taxidermied deer head he keeps in a cruddy out building, what a juicy tidbit) it's that where the agents look and interview will NOT be where you give them information to do so. She can assume that whatever she gave them will be a jumping off point for them to look nearby - literally and figuratively. My parent's neighbors across the country got a surprise visit one evening, for example.
They wouldn't bother trying to infiltrate your account; they'd merely contact the Admins and die of natural causes while waiting for a response.
They wouldn't bother trying to infiltrate your account; they'd merely contact the Admins and die of natural causes while waiting for a response.
iYeah. Like I said, when I had an SBI run, they talked to people I didn't even remember. Anyone you list as a reference, including your past employers, will get asked if they know anyone elee who knows you. I'm just hoping someone knows what level clearanec that kind of work usually requires. If I know that, I'll know just how deep an investigation they'll run; a NAC, a BI, or an SBI. Then I'll have a better idea what might be risky and what won't. As it is now, we're assuming the "worst", an SBI. If it turns out a civilian composites tech on F22s or F35s only needs a Secret or an everyday Top Secret, there'll be a lot less to worry about. I'm kinda hoping someone that's at HAFB ses this and knows that answer.
I don't know why you'd dismiss what I wrote. We're at Hill. None of his references have been contacted since he first needed his clearance in 2008 to begin Explosive Ordnance Disposal school, a school where students' notes are kept in a vault in the classroom every night b/c they are considered as eyes only as the briefings received. Each time he went w/ a Secret Service team a credit report was run to be sure there wasn't a way he could be financially compromised. Along w/ scrubbing the web your wife may want to check her credit and see what's on it, if anything needs correcting. Most spies in technical fields have been compromised financially, not dogmatically. Your wife's co-workers will be spoken to before her references, I'd bet
Agents attempted to interview me thinking I was my own neighbor when I baby-sat for them at their house so they could be together at his chemo appointment. I felt bad they came all the way from Colorado and were red-faced for their efforts.
I don't know what your acronyms mean, I just know what I lived for nearly 7 years.
Agents attempted to interview me thinking I was my own neighbor when I baby-sat for them at their house so they could be together at his chemo appointment. I felt bad they came all the way from Colorado and were red-faced for their efforts.
I don't know what your acronyms mean, I just know what I lived for nearly 7 years.
I used to have one of those clearances. Trust me, is smart to clean up ALL of your social media, including this one. Also realize, that anything that was EVER on ANYTHING is usually recoverable with a little effort. Don't assume a delete button really does the job. If you're really worried, I'd ask the site to do a deeper delete if possible. But fer sure...clean up your other social sites. Every nickle-dime background check covers those these days.
Do her a favor, keep what she does a little under wraps....
Their fear is that unsavory aspects of your life can make you "blackmailable."
Do her a favor, keep what she does a little under wraps....
Their fear is that unsavory aspects of your life can make you "blackmailable."
ILLUSTRATOR wrote:
Her security clearance level would be impossible for any of us on this site to predict. It all depends on what they decide she will know that they don't want the rest of the world to know. That will be determined by the unique particulars of the job she will be doing. Unless someone on here has done the exact same job, it's a rare person who will have the knowledge you're searching for from us.
And Cheffette is absolutely correct. They will find everything possible on you, and mostly from those who know you. "Why don't you like pie? Your 5th-grade cafeteria monitor said you threw yours at another kid." Yes. They will check that out. They will scour all your social media, probably even hack your computer (maybe they're doing it right now as you're asking these very questions of us). Anything that can compromise your wife enough to make her give away secrets will be checked and they will ask you about it. That's regardless of a Secret or Top Secret status. Does everyone around you know you're swingers? What would you do to keep them from finding out? Sell secrets? That's what they'll be asking themselves.
If she thinks she may not get the job by being on Swingular, You should probably delete the account, scrub your hard drive and stop telling people on the forums about your wife's impending security clearance background check. You may be doing more damage than you think, and, if they do find that you're on here, posting this in the forums, they will see that you aren't capable of keeping your own private matters under control which will make her undesirable and a risk to them.
Good luck!
Off-topic, it's odd to me (unless I misunderstand the OP) that instead of telling him she was taking her pics off the account Dana just did it and left it for him to figure out. Is this how couple's profiles usually work? I'd be pissed if a person I trusted went into my profile and affected my ability to use it to get laid.
Well, I have a TS. Have for many years, that's why I don't have public pics up. Just sayin. But, if it all came down to it. I would not let anybody use this against me anyway. In order to do that, I would have to care. and I don't. The difference between us and them, we live it, they only wish they did.
CHEFFETTE wrote:
I don't know why you'd dismiss what I wrote. We're at Hill. None of his references have been contacted since he first needed his clearance in 2008 to begin Explosive Ordnance Disposal school, a school where students' notes are kept in a vault in the classroom every night b/c they are considered as eyes only as the briefings received. Each time he went w/ a Secret Service team a credit report was run to be sure there wasn't a way he could be financially compromised. Along w/ scrubbing the web your wife may want to check her credit and see what's on it, if anything needs correcting. Most spies in technical fields have been compromised financially, not dogmatically. Your wife's co-workers will be spoken to before her references, I'd bet
Agents attempted to interview me thinking I was my own neighbor when I baby-sat for them at their house so they could be together at his chemo appointment. I felt bad they came all the way from Colorado and were red-faced for their efforts.[quote=CHEFFETTE]I don't know why you'd dismiss what I wrote. We're at Hill. None of his references have been contacted since he first needed his clearance in 2008 to begin Explosive Ordnance Disposal school, a school where students' notes are kept in a vault in the classroom every night b/c they are considered as eyes only as the briefings received. Each time he went w/ a Secret Service team a credit report was run to be sure there wasn't a way he could be financially compromised. Along w/ scrubbing the web your wife may want to check her credit and see what's on it, if anything needs correcting. Most spies in technical fields have been compromised financially, not dogmatically. Your wife's co-workers will be spoken to before her references, I'd bet
Agents attempted to interview me thinking I was my own neighbor when I baby-sat for them at their house so they could be together at his chemo appointment. I felt bad they came all the way from Colorado and were red-faced for their efforts.
I don't know what your acronyms mean, I just know what I lived for nearly 7 years.
I Didn't mean to dismiss anything. But how deep and thoroughly they go depends on what level of clearance someone needs. For a Condidential clearance, it's a National Agency Check, or NAC. For a Secret, it's a NAC. So most times if someone really needs a Confidential, after the NAC comes back good, they usually just go ahead and give them a Secret. For a Top Secret, it's a Background Investigation, or BI. For a Top Secret with any kind of restricted access material wndorsement, it'a a Special Background Investigation, or SBI. That's the one where they always send agents around talking to just about whoever they can find to talk to. And they do an interview with person. And sometimes a Polygraph. And they always check financials. Like you said, to see if the guy is likely to open his mouth because he needs money. The others, the NAC and the plain BI are essentisally just records checks of various kinds, and they only send anyone out to talk to someone if one of those checks turns uo something potentially bad.
My point was just that if anyone knew what level clearance that composites tech job needs, I'd know which investigation they're going to run.
ILLUSTRATOR wrote:
Her security clearance level would be impossible for any of us on this site to predict. It all depends on what they decide she will know that they don't want the rest of the world to know. That will be determined by the unique particulars of the job she will be doing. Unless someone on here has done the exact same job, it's a rare person who will have the knowledge you're searching for from us.
And Cheffette is absolutely correct. They will find everything possible on you, and mostly from those who know you. "Why don't you like pie? Your 5th-grade cafeteria monitor said you threw yours at another kid." Yes. They will check that out. They will scour all your social media, probably even hack your computer (maybe they're doing it right now as you're asking these very questions of us). Anything that can compromise your wife enough to make her give away secrets will be checked and they will ask you about it. That's regardless of a Secret or Top Secret status. Does everyone around you know you're swingers? What would you do to keep them from finding out? Sell secrets? That's what they'll be asking themselves.
If she thinks she may not get the job by being on Swingular, You should probably delete the account, scrub your hard drive and stop telling people on the forums about your wife's impending security clearance background check. You may be doing more damage than you think, and, if they do find that you're on here, posting this in the forums, they will see that you aren't capable of keeping your own private matters under control which will make her undesirable and a risk to them.
Good luck!
That's why I'm wondering if anyone knows anythng about that job. Clearance levels are assigned to different jobs, whether someone's military or a civilian. Although it isn't too unusual for somone to start with one clearance then have to get a higher one if their job or resonsibiities change. Like they start out as a worker bee on something with just a Secret but some years later become a supervisor over others doing that same job, and have to have a Top Secret. Or like when I reenlisted in the Army in '79, all I needed for my job was a Secret. Then they later sent me to a school in Monterey for a different kind of job, and I needed a Top Secret with a Sensitive Compartmented Information endorsement, so they did one of those Special Background Investigations.
CHEFFETTE wrote:
Off-topic, it's odd to me (unless I misunderstand the OP) that instead of telling him she was taking her pics off the account Dana just did it and left it for him to figure out. Is this how couple's profiles usually work? I'd be pissed if a person I trusted went into my profile and affected my ability to use it to get laid.
It's as much her profile as it is mine. And besides, that actually had a lot to do with tyhe fact that due to her work and school, and usually my school, but also my being kinda sick until pretty recently, we're seldom even home and awake at the same time. In fact, when I saw it and asked her about it, it was the first time we'd both been home and awake at the aame time in about a week. And anyway, getting laid in itself isn't really the point. Socially, I'm generally, uh, not really anti-social, I just don't socialize much. With anyone. So it's more about going places and meeting people that I already know have, at least in one thing, the same or similar basic attitude I have.
Do not post her here! As of oct 2015 all NSA checks will be using social media as part of the vetting.
Regardless of security level. And i am intimately familiar with the clearance she will require.
Would you please delete this post? I'm tired of seeing it!!
INSIN wrote:
Would you please delete this post? I'm tired of seeing it!!
This one?
Lol...AMEN