A few months ago someone posted about STD's on the rise, I did some research and found the increase was with incarcerated women but that was still alarming to me.
I don't know exactly what Tuesdays News will be except the mention couples in UTAH being infected had jumped 700% so we plan to pay close attention. Has anyone else seen any other news about this that relates directly to couples in UTAH and not any high risk groups.
Also we were wondering if anyone had formed a small group of half dozen couples who test periodically and stay exclusive to the group, we would love to be a part of one. One of us tests every 3 months more to warn others or make sure we didn't infect anyone as soon as possible. We accepted the risks when we started but if what they say is true we may have to rethink our involvment in the lifestyle.
I don't know exactly what Tuesdays News will be except the mention couples in UTAH being infected had jumped 700% so we plan to pay close attention. Has anyone else seen any other news about this that relates directly to couples in UTAH and not any high risk groups.
Also we were wondering if anyone had formed a small group of half dozen couples who test periodically and stay exclusive to the group, we would love to be a part of one. One of us tests every 3 months more to warn others or make sure we didn't infect anyone as soon as possible. We accepted the risks when we started but if what they say is true we may have to rethink our involvment in the lifestyle.
To many time the news blows things way out of proportion to get more people to watch, lets just hope this is the case but we will watch close and see what they say. may just be that bad. thanks for the insight on this.
KRAZYGIRL wrote:I agree most of the time it's someone with an opinion more than fact, but I thought they said it was from the CDC with more credibility in my opinion.
To many time the news blows things way out of proportion to get more people to watch, lets just hope this is the case but we will watch close and see what they say. may just be that bad. thanks for the insight on this.
Saw the teaser. It will be interesting to see what they say (and how sensational they make it). Bottom line this hobby carries real risks and you need to educate yourself about those risks and be willing to accept them. Obviously some diseases are worse than others and luckily the really scary ones (HIV, Hep C) are quite hard to catch if you use condoms faithfully...and correctly. Other diseases (HSV, HPV) are rather easy to catch even if you use condoms. And then there are those diseases (HPV in men) that cannot be tested for so you're in the dark no matter which way you look at it. Play safe, play smart, know the risks.
And fwiw playing in a small exclusive group may lessen your risk to some degree but unless you can monitor each and every person in the group 24/7 (and account for incubation periods for the different STI's) it's a false sense of security. I have access to the CDC monthly report to health care providers but you can get most of the current info on their website and from their consumer web mag/blog Vital Signs on cdc.gov
And fwiw playing in a small exclusive group may lessen your risk to some degree but unless you can monitor each and every person in the group 24/7 (and account for incubation periods for the different STI's) it's a false sense of security. I have access to the CDC monthly report to health care providers but you can get most of the current info on their website and from their consumer web mag/blog Vital Signs on cdc.gov
I don't know about your news up there but STD's in general are at their highest levels ever percentage wise. Log into the CDC for all the data. syphilis is the only one that has had a decline and it was minute, but still much higher than it has been historically. Another fact is that condom use is at an all time high. So these two facts together form a simple conclusion...condoms do not protect against most STD's or STI's. HIV and pregnancy are transmitted via a fluid exchange so condoms are extremely effective at preventing them. Almost every other STD and STI are skin to skin transferable and condoms due almost nothing to prevent them.
Think about it, the critters don't live on the shaft of the penis for the most part. They prefer the warm damp areas like some sweaty balls or that tuft of pubic hair. Now I'll admit I haven't used a condom in my life but I don't believe they cover either of those areas.
Please don't think I'm advocating for everybody to stop using condoms. That would be stupid since I am invested heavily in them with over $4 Billion in global sales in 2013 and rising. I would just like it if people would stop drinking the Grape Koolade and believing that a condom will protect them from anything. The whole false security of "I only practice safe sex, I use condoms" is what is driving the STD and STI stats up.
Sorry for the rant, carry on.
MrsTj
Think about it, the critters don't live on the shaft of the penis for the most part. They prefer the warm damp areas like some sweaty balls or that tuft of pubic hair. Now I'll admit I haven't used a condom in my life but I don't believe they cover either of those areas.
Please don't think I'm advocating for everybody to stop using condoms. That would be stupid since I am invested heavily in them with over $4 Billion in global sales in 2013 and rising. I would just like it if people would stop drinking the Grape Koolade and believing that a condom will protect them from anything. The whole false security of "I only practice safe sex, I use condoms" is what is driving the STD and STI stats up.
Sorry for the rant, carry on.
MrsTj
We survived the ebola epidemic, the bird flu, the swine flu, H2N2, polio, measles, sharia law and Obama care. Maybe the media gets this one right, however I doubt it, they play on fear and emotion to gain ratings and sell advertising.
Bob
Bob
IDCPL4FUN69... You forgot to mention the killer bee invasion and that earthquake that is supposed to devastate the Wasatch Front. Oh and don't forget that North Korea is probably selling their nuclear bombs to Al Qaeda, and Obama is going to use the military to occupy Texas, and masturbating makes you go blind. These are all important scary things that are really going to happen because I saw them all on the news. So build your goddamned bomb shelters people. Why are you just standing there... Be afraid! Be very afraid!
FITNERD wrote:Don't forget the Black Death, we all know that can't happen again, or can it LOL.
IDCPL4FUN69... You forgot to mention the killer bee invasion and that earthquake that is supposed to devastate the Wasatch Front. Oh and don't forget that North Korea is probably selling their nuclear bombs to Al Qaeda, and Obama is going to use the military to occupy Texas, and masturbating makes you go blind. These are all important scary things that are really going to happen because I saw them all on the news. So build your goddamned bomb shelters people. Why are you just standing there... Be afraid! Be very afraid!
Only swingers could joke about this.
Yeah, we have some friends who live in Vegas who wanted to play bareback so they formed a small "exclusive" group and had everyone agree to get tested every three months. A year later the group disbanded (and one member even tried to sue several of the other members). Apparently at least one guy in the group routinely traveled to the far east for work and frequented brothels while there. Another also traveled and had a girlfriend in at least two other cities. Like I said, unless you all live in a big house (and never leave) there is potential for "contamination". Why? Because people lie. And people lie about sex probably more than any other thing. Ask a couple of the unicorns here how often they are approached by single guys who are really married. Would why they lie about that? To get sex. What else might people lie about to get sex? Hmmmmm
I hope I didn't pop anyone's little swinging is safe bubble.
I hope I didn't pop anyone's little swinging is safe bubble.
we would be interested in a group like that.
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:
We never had those types of dishonesty problems. People were always honest in admitting they were planning on fucking someone outside the group or something like that and that is fine and dandy. Our experience is closed circle groups really do work for a season or two if you have the right people involved.
I'm sure it's just a Vegas thing. People in groups like that here in Utah are protected against lying about fucking around outside the group by wearing their temple garments...or just pinky swearing that they're telling the truth.
http://www.kutv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/TUESDAY-Married-or-single-why-STD-rates-in-Utah-are-skyrocketing-125445.shtml#.VUlKB6YtGcx
Heard on the radio that the story is about gonorrhea and chlamydia. Going to still watch the story but its freakin scary to me. Possibly no symptoms for months so it gets passed around without you having any idea.
We are tested every 6 months and we do this together and if ever asked we have the clean bill of health to prove it...that's our pledge to swinging make it fun not deadly
Will someone post with the story summary? We don't have a way to watch it. 
I think think is it, but they declared Tinder as the cause:
http://www.kutv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Swipe-right-for-chlamydia-How-Tinder-is-sending-STD-rates-skyrocketing-127116.shtml#.VUmjYJOzk-k
http://www.kutv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Swipe-right-for-chlamydia-How-Tinder-is-sending-STD-rates-skyrocketing-127116.shtml#.VUmjYJOzk-k
they didn't even mention it on ABC channel 2 news. I was not happy! I heard some on the radio about it though. They didn't say why or which couples are at this high risk but they did say its gonorrhea and clamidea that's being spread.
If it's the same as the x96 but this morning, they blamed hookup sites and cheaters (and others) unwilling to use condoms.
Got to love Utah, blame it on the male stepping out. Apparently women don't step out, have casual relationships, or have foursomes etc. Funny
[size=100][/size]Utahns aren't getting tested. They are embarassed to talk to their doc about their activities, and also ignore symptoms far longer than most rational human beings. 700% increase in gonorrhea in the last few years with women being the biggest increase. Add to that the guilt/shame/blame game the predominant church plays where your couple's counseling with your good neighbor the Bishop doesn't include basic health messages such as go get tested. Also, Utahns are incredibly naive and don't consider kissing, oral or other forms of non-penetration to be actual sex.
Speaking from a single female standpoint, I've been trying to date on 'regular' sites and get so many offers from married guys it's frightening. I've had my fare share on here too of the married playing single but here they are easier to weed out. The moral to the story is get tested. Make it part of your checkups and start being honest with your doctor about your sex life, even if you're not honest with your partner.
Speaking from a single female standpoint, I've been trying to date on 'regular' sites and get so many offers from married guys it's frightening. I've had my fare share on here too of the married playing single but here they are easier to weed out. The moral to the story is get tested. Make it part of your checkups and start being honest with your doctor about your sex life, even if you're not honest with your partner.
Party hard. Go find the video of the report online. They definately mentioned women. In fact, the rise in STDs in Women is much higher than the men.
We are not suprised that the teaser had the shock and awe to get you to watch and then the story had much different info. Still go to know your chances are higher but it hits more in the single area or the cheeter going to the single area to get some. And no condoms is the big reason why. Suprised the news said we need to teach our kids about condoms, not just no sex untill you go to the white building on the hill.
Makes you think about this stuff and question your choices a bit, for a second.lol
Makes you think about this stuff and question your choices a bit, for a second.lol
What we call the News
So the cheating couples are ending up with the bad press and a single male is handing out STD's because women are at 700%, But men aren't much better clicking in at 400% rise in 4 years. Because of the on demand sex hook up apps on people who own cell phones.
Cell phones linked to identity theft, bad drivers, sex and STD's
jm2cents
Cell phones linked to identity theft, bad drivers, sex and STD's
jm2cents
TATTOOED_HOTTIE wrote:
First of all the CDC statistics and facts are very skewed. Second statistics can and usually always are inaccurate as far as what they were based on. For example they could do a study within a certain subculture but yet announce stds are on the rise in this certain place and so on.
Sources please?
First of all, the CDC statistics and facts are not skewed. Skewed by definition is to "make biased or distorted in a way that is regarded as inaccurate, unfair and misleading". They're based on actual reported cases and normal extrapolation methods used extensively in business, research and any other type of statistical analysis. If someone maybe believes aliens have visited us and the gol durned gummit is a hidin' it then the above statement won't matter to them. Second, statistics can be inaccurate up to a certain percentage point but the CDC has been tracking disease trends and infection rates since the 1940's and they have it down to a science (pun intended). They told us not to panic about the whole Ebola thing and by golly if they weren't right. However again, if someone believes that scientists get big bucks by using scare tactics or they get a buck for every disease reported (kinda like pay per click on a website) then the above statement will go right over their head. Fwiw, that whole carbon dating thing? Yup, scientists pulling a big ole April Fools joke. The earth really IS 6000 years old.
Sorry for the rant. Not ripping on you per se, TATTOOED but it just kinda irks me a little bit when people play fast and loose with facts...especially when it's something that can have a real effect on people's health.
POET_RAYL wrote:
So the cheating couples are ending up with the bad press and a single male is handing out STD's because women are at 700%, But men aren't much better clicking in at 400% rise in 4 years. Because of the on demand sex hook up apps on people who own cell phones.
Cell phones linked to identity theft, bad drivers, sex and STD's
jm2cents
Yep its the smart phone for sure, never had this kind of stuff happen when we all had the brick phone. To damn hard to send those data messages on them.lol
No really they did cover both men and women on the cheeting side and on the spot hook ups. It is just so damn easy to get strange people to meet for sex at any time with the new programs and the phones. And the teachings we have had in this state never has talked about condoms and the right use and that they should always be used with strangers untill you know them and trust them.
I dont know this so dont beat me up Evil this is just a thought, maybe in women these STDs take longer to affect them then in a man so they would not know as soon and help spread it more if they hook up often. Then once someone finds out they may have a problem do they go to the doctor asap.
I know for me as a young man in this state anything I wanted to know I had to ask my friends or my brother.
And KRAZY, that premise is not entirely unsound. There are differences in how, and how quickly different individuals display signs and symptoms of a disease as well as differences in the sexes. Since female sex organs are internal they often don't see symptoms as quickly as males for certain infections.
I did not have the internet to look up stuff so how reliable was the info I had as a kid, as I got older and saw a doc on my own and could ask questions I did learn just how stupid I was about women and sex. This state is very bad for those kind of things and our kids, they have to find out for them selves.
It is starting to be better but still in the dark ages compared to other places. Kids dont want to be seen going into a planed parenthood or a place like that, damn it someone will see and tell the ward.
It is starting to be better but still in the dark ages compared to other places. Kids dont want to be seen going into a planed parenthood or a place like that, damn it someone will see and tell the ward.
Of course you're right. What was I thinking? Oh yeah, I want my CDC stock to split and make me rich.
You're the one making assertions. I've done my research (including four years in grad school). Let's see yours.
You're the one making assertions. I've done my research (including four years in grad school). Let's see yours.
Being someone who likes to know a lot more about things than the news shows provide, when I hear about something like the "horrible" increase in STDs, I start digging. And in this case, what I found is that it has essentially been in the "common" ones, like gonnorhea and chlamydia. Yes, they can be dangerous, especially in women where obvious symptoms often don't show, but, even though nobody wants to catch the stuff, it isn't a disaster. There's this little thing called antibiotics that kills them right off. But the TV people don't tend to get specific, if they even mention just what STDs they're talking about it's usually in passing, in the midst of all the "oh how horrible" crap. Why? Because they know the minute they talk about STDs people will start thinking about AIDS, Hep C (and even that is now curable), and stuff, and it's scary. And scary stuff attracts viewers and keeps their ratings up
It's the same as how so many people are scared of guns and violent crime because they believe it's getting worse all the time and they're in danger, when the reality is that violent crime, including gun crime, has been steadily decreasing since the early '90s. So why do people think what they do? The Newtown shooting happened 30 or 40 miles from where I used to be a city cop. If it had happened then, almost nobody outside Connecticut, New York, Rhode Island, and likely Massachusetts and New Jersey would have even ever heard about it. But now, with an internet hookup in every home and over 700 cable channels, everyone in the country heard about it within probably 12 hours at most. People hear almost instantly about every sensational thing, and they personalize it and worry that they're in awful danger. They don't notice that these things are coming from all over, not just from small areas, or that the rate of these things per, say, 100,000 people is lower than it has been in decades.
No, there isn't a dangerous raging epidemic of STDs, especially not the real dangerous ones, except in certain groups (and even in most of those groups it's the "common", not the exotic and real dangerous ones), like young teens who have more sex at an earlier age than used to be the case, and who don't have the experience or knowledge (thank you, the "abstinence is the only valid form of sex education" people) to be doing that.
That having been said, STDs are out there. And nobody wants even an ultimately harmless one (if it's treated), like gonnorhea. So be safe, and get yourself tested several times a year, but you really don't need to be stressing or changing your life over a largely media manufactured crisis. ~ Terry
It's the same as how so many people are scared of guns and violent crime because they believe it's getting worse all the time and they're in danger, when the reality is that violent crime, including gun crime, has been steadily decreasing since the early '90s. So why do people think what they do? The Newtown shooting happened 30 or 40 miles from where I used to be a city cop. If it had happened then, almost nobody outside Connecticut, New York, Rhode Island, and likely Massachusetts and New Jersey would have even ever heard about it. But now, with an internet hookup in every home and over 700 cable channels, everyone in the country heard about it within probably 12 hours at most. People hear almost instantly about every sensational thing, and they personalize it and worry that they're in awful danger. They don't notice that these things are coming from all over, not just from small areas, or that the rate of these things per, say, 100,000 people is lower than it has been in decades.
No, there isn't a dangerous raging epidemic of STDs, especially not the real dangerous ones, except in certain groups (and even in most of those groups it's the "common", not the exotic and real dangerous ones), like young teens who have more sex at an earlier age than used to be the case, and who don't have the experience or knowledge (thank you, the "abstinence is the only valid form of sex education" people) to be doing that.
That having been said, STDs are out there. And nobody wants even an ultimately harmless one (if it's treated), like gonnorhea. So be safe, and get yourself tested several times a year, but you really don't need to be stressing or changing your life over a largely media manufactured crisis. ~ Terry
Even if you test once every 3 months as I do if you don't use a condom with a new strange fuck you can spread a STD with in 10 minutes of your last fuck. Easier for females to get since they have an inner. Guys have an outie which they can see the changes faster than females.
That's why when we decide to go bare back with another couple or single we show all parties involved 12 hours of test results. Now with this new smart phone app they can fuck some one else and catch something 2 minutes after the testing before they get there results and them not thinking not tell us so than we could now catch something 100% faster.
Even with our long term hooks ups and most trusted can bring us something if they forget to put a condom on with a 2 minute fuck hook up.
Almost forgot if you lick pussy or suck cock with out a dental dam or condom if your hook ups don't tell you that they're dirty bam you just got something.
That's why when we decide to go bare back with another couple or single we show all parties involved 12 hours of test results. Now with this new smart phone app they can fuck some one else and catch something 2 minutes after the testing before they get there results and them not thinking not tell us so than we could now catch something 100% faster.
Even with our long term hooks ups and most trusted can bring us something if they forget to put a condom on with a 2 minute fuck hook up.
Almost forgot if you lick pussy or suck cock with out a dental dam or condom if your hook ups don't tell you that they're dirty bam you just got something.
All I know is that the STI rate is DEFINITELY climbing and so are the number of chemtrails in the sky. Coincidence? I don't think so. 
TATTOED & EVIL are both correct about the CDC and how they report "FACTS". For example when they accepted a huge grant from the Brady Foundation their facts on gun related violence was extremely skewed by not only the pool of candidates they chose but also by what constituted "GUN VIOLENCE". Their findings were refuted and destroyed by a rival that used actual crime records from all Police Departments rather than polling individuals.
In the case of STD and STI reporting their data is based on the actual number of cases reported by all physicians as is required by physicians by Federal law. It isn't possible to skew those kinds of stats without directly falsifying information.
In the case of STD and STI reporting their data is based on the actual number of cases reported by all physicians as is required by physicians by Federal law. It isn't possible to skew those kinds of stats without directly falsifying information.
Anybody know where I can get an extra large condom that won't break when I put it on my great big gun? 
Never mind. I found one on my head.
Never mind. I found one on my head.
Wear a condom! If not you are at risk of an STD.
http://kutv.com/archive/std-rates-on-the-rise-across-utah
Short version is that STD's are on the rise nationwide Nationwide a 75% increase of Gonorrhea cases. Gonorrhea has a new drug-resistant strain which has hit both coasts but NO CASES reported yet in Utah. It is completely untreatable at this point in time. This particular strain has mostly been mostly reported in 20 year old males. CDC still saying safe sex is the best policy . . . next to abstinence.
As to HPV and other commonly reported STD's - these are far more common. In most cases HPV goes away without incident. Uncomfortable . . . yes, Embarrassing . . . yes. There is a vaccine, but it is generally not recommended in men >29. Women can apparently still get the vaccine thru 45 years of age. A small percentage of HPV mutates into a cancerous form . . . it is a very small % and probably not much higher of a risk than other forms of cancer.
Take Away: Be safe. Don't be afraid to ask the tough questions. Select new partners carefully. Lifestylers tend to be more careful and more health conscious than the general population . . . but be select . . . especially when playing with younger males who may be 'playing' outside their primary relationship.
Not me saying it - but, those are just the facts. Please feel free to contact me directly with more questions. I do have some knowledge base in this area (I work in the medical field) - discretion suggests I should probably shut up about now.
Stay safe . . . and as they say at Lagoon . . . Have Fun!!
Short version is that STD's are on the rise nationwide Nationwide a 75% increase of Gonorrhea cases. Gonorrhea has a new drug-resistant strain which has hit both coasts but NO CASES reported yet in Utah. It is completely untreatable at this point in time. This particular strain has mostly been mostly reported in 20 year old males. CDC still saying safe sex is the best policy . . . next to abstinence.
As to HPV and other commonly reported STD's - these are far more common. In most cases HPV goes away without incident. Uncomfortable . . . yes, Embarrassing . . . yes. There is a vaccine, but it is generally not recommended in men >29. Women can apparently still get the vaccine thru 45 years of age. A small percentage of HPV mutates into a cancerous form . . . it is a very small % and probably not much higher of a risk than other forms of cancer.
Take Away: Be safe. Don't be afraid to ask the tough questions. Select new partners carefully. Lifestylers tend to be more careful and more health conscious than the general population . . . but be select . . . especially when playing with younger males who may be 'playing' outside their primary relationship.
Not me saying it - but, those are just the facts. Please feel free to contact me directly with more questions. I do have some knowledge base in this area (I work in the medical field) - discretion suggests I should probably shut up about now.
Stay safe . . . and as they say at Lagoon . . . Have Fun!!