I'm a single 30 year old male. I know I'm genuine, nurturing, funny, respectful, intelligent, curious and good looking. I'm fit, I have a great body, I eat healthy and workout. I like to passionately kiss, cuddle, caress and be playful. I'm a great listener and I do things for others before I do for myself, in everyday life as well as in bed. I know what I like and what I want in life and I'm very successful in my career. All in all I'm a great guy!
All of that being said, why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys? Are there not a lot of guys with the same qualities I have? I know there are those guys that just "get to the point" when it comes to what they want. But, why can't girls see past that in guys and see that there may be something else there? Not that I just "get to the point", because I know better, that it doesn't work! Plus I have my own standards and I like to get to know people before getting into bed. I'm just curious..
How does the "swinging" lifestyle work for single males?
Are there "couples parties" that single guys and girls are allowed to go to? If so, how does it work to get an "in"?
What usually happens if a single male gets into bed with a couple?
How does a single male meet people if most of the people on here, even the ones that say "Single males: Yes" on their profile, don't read emails from single males? Are there some magic words or some text manipulation involved in the subject line that needs to happen before the email will be opened? lol
All of that being said, why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys? Are there not a lot of guys with the same qualities I have? I know there are those guys that just "get to the point" when it comes to what they want. But, why can't girls see past that in guys and see that there may be something else there? Not that I just "get to the point", because I know better, that it doesn't work! Plus I have my own standards and I like to get to know people before getting into bed. I'm just curious..
How does the "swinging" lifestyle work for single males?
Are there "couples parties" that single guys and girls are allowed to go to? If so, how does it work to get an "in"?
What usually happens if a single male gets into bed with a couple?
How does a single male meet people if most of the people on here, even the ones that say "Single males: Yes" on their profile, don't read emails from single males? Are there some magic words or some text manipulation involved in the subject line that needs to happen before the email will be opened? lol
(from Terry)
Nah, I kinda know this guy a little, let's give him a break. He hasn't earned a response from Evil yet.
It's a numbers game. Lots more men than women are actively looking for sex partners. If you have 500 apples to pick from at the supermarket, you're going to be choosier than if there were only 20 apples. You're going to look for the one apple that is closest to the image of that perfect apple that you have in your head.
Very nearly ANY woman, regardless of looks or personality, can get laid any time she wants to if that's all she wants. In OR outside the lifestyle. NOT so for men.
Anyone looking for a single male, be it a single female, a married female playing alone, or a couple, has a really big pool to fish in. They can afford to wait until a near perfect match to that fantasy male they have in their heads comes along. If they pass on you, it doesn't mean you're a bad person, bad looking, or have bad breath. It just means you weren't their perfect fantasy guy.
Among other things, I'm an actor. When I walk into an audition, I KNOW the odds are against me, I know that even if it turns out I'm the best looking guy, and the best actor, there, that doesn't mean I'll get cast. It will go to whichever competent actor most closely matches the image rthe director has in his head for the character. I know a guy who gets a lot of work in Broadway musicals. So he's obviously good. And he's a triple threat, he acts, sings, and dances, all really well. Once he auditioned for a show that was replacing some actors (happens a lot with long running shows, as actors leave for other commitments or whatever). If memory serves, it was Cats. He auditioned, and got a callback. He got 2 more callbacks. On the third callback, it was down to him and one other guy. Instead of having them perform again, the director had a wardrobe guy come out and take their measurements, and the other guy got the part. Why? Because the existing costume would fit him without even any alterations. Something as silly as a half inch of chest measurement. So if someone isn't interested in you, it doesn't mean there's something wrong with you,it just means you weren't just exactly what they were looking for.
As to unanswered emails, understand that people who say "yes" or even "maybe" to single males in their profiles get avalanches of emails. People have lives. Sometimes they just don't have the time to send out a dozen thanks, but no thanks emails.
So how do you "get in"? The obvious answer is, become a couple. Barring that, go to open events, like meet n greets. Meet people. Talk to them. Make friends. THAT is what will eventually get you playmates, or invited to more intimate events. Do NOT be aggressive, pushy, or make assumptions. The worst thing a single male (or sometime even married males) can do is to assume that any and every woman at a swinger function is up for grabs, and wants to fuck anything that has a dick. Behave just like you would if you'd met a woman at some "normal" social function. Because that's what open functions are. They're social events, designed for people to meet and get to know other people, not some grab bag full of instant sex. Take it easy, be a nice guy, and get to know people. It will require some time and patience, but eventually you will hook up. Just remember, a lot of guys seem to think that getting into the swinging world means instant sex, and it doesn't. In fact, it's probably easier in a bar on a weekend night. In the bar the girls are all looking for single men, while in swinging not so much, and even when they are, people are often a little cautious about single males who they don't yet know.
Nah, I kinda know this guy a little, let's give him a break. He hasn't earned a response from Evil yet.
It's a numbers game. Lots more men than women are actively looking for sex partners. If you have 500 apples to pick from at the supermarket, you're going to be choosier than if there were only 20 apples. You're going to look for the one apple that is closest to the image of that perfect apple that you have in your head.
Very nearly ANY woman, regardless of looks or personality, can get laid any time she wants to if that's all she wants. In OR outside the lifestyle. NOT so for men.
Anyone looking for a single male, be it a single female, a married female playing alone, or a couple, has a really big pool to fish in. They can afford to wait until a near perfect match to that fantasy male they have in their heads comes along. If they pass on you, it doesn't mean you're a bad person, bad looking, or have bad breath. It just means you weren't their perfect fantasy guy.
Among other things, I'm an actor. When I walk into an audition, I KNOW the odds are against me, I know that even if it turns out I'm the best looking guy, and the best actor, there, that doesn't mean I'll get cast. It will go to whichever competent actor most closely matches the image rthe director has in his head for the character. I know a guy who gets a lot of work in Broadway musicals. So he's obviously good. And he's a triple threat, he acts, sings, and dances, all really well. Once he auditioned for a show that was replacing some actors (happens a lot with long running shows, as actors leave for other commitments or whatever). If memory serves, it was Cats. He auditioned, and got a callback. He got 2 more callbacks. On the third callback, it was down to him and one other guy. Instead of having them perform again, the director had a wardrobe guy come out and take their measurements, and the other guy got the part. Why? Because the existing costume would fit him without even any alterations. Something as silly as a half inch of chest measurement. So if someone isn't interested in you, it doesn't mean there's something wrong with you,it just means you weren't just exactly what they were looking for.
As to unanswered emails, understand that people who say "yes" or even "maybe" to single males in their profiles get avalanches of emails. People have lives. Sometimes they just don't have the time to send out a dozen thanks, but no thanks emails.
So how do you "get in"? The obvious answer is, become a couple. Barring that, go to open events, like meet n greets. Meet people. Talk to them. Make friends. THAT is what will eventually get you playmates, or invited to more intimate events. Do NOT be aggressive, pushy, or make assumptions. The worst thing a single male (or sometime even married males) can do is to assume that any and every woman at a swinger function is up for grabs, and wants to fuck anything that has a dick. Behave just like you would if you'd met a woman at some "normal" social function. Because that's what open functions are. They're social events, designed for people to meet and get to know other people, not some grab bag full of instant sex. Take it easy, be a nice guy, and get to know people. It will require some time and patience, but eventually you will hook up. Just remember, a lot of guys seem to think that getting into the swinging world means instant sex, and it doesn't. In fact, it's probably easier in a bar on a weekend night. In the bar the girls are all looking for single men, while in swinging not so much, and even when they are, people are often a little cautious about single males who they don't yet know.
TMACA had a great response to this. We will add some input as well. We are a couple that does enjoy inviting another male into our bedroom from time to time. For us we look for a very specific idea of what he should be. That to us is that he is very well hung and/or is a stallion in the bedroom. He has to know to be discreet and a gentleman when in public with us, and then know how to take the Mrs. the way she likes to be when in the bedroom. We will get a lot of emails from guys, so something has to stand apart for us to want to start talking to the guy. Like TMACA said, couples don't mean to be rude, but there are too many emails usually to respond to every guy. If we do start talking to a guy that is just step number one. We are choosy. We are going to pick the guy that most represents a fantasy for us in the bedroom.
To answer the question of what happens in the bedroom, I think that would all depend on the couple.
Usually that would mean a MFM threesome. Some times the Mr. in the scenario only wants to watch the Mrs. have sex. So it all depends on the scenario. I think you have to decide what you are comfortable with and find a couple that wants the same.
To answer the question of what happens in the bedroom, I think that would all depend on the couple.
Usually that would mean a MFM threesome. Some times the Mr. in the scenario only wants to watch the Mrs. have sex. So it all depends on the scenario. I think you have to decide what you are comfortable with and find a couple that wants the same.
At the risk of restating for the millionth time...
Cold hard truth time, JOSH. Single guys in the lifestyle are a dime a dozen (that's a really old fashioned way of saying there are a LOT of you). And believe it or not you all claim you're super spiffy dudes (you're not...not all of you anyway). If you all WERE super duper All American boy-next-door stud muffins you'd have girls falling all over you and we wouldn't be having this (single male) conversation for the bazillionth time.
So let's do the math. There are a LOT of single guys in the lifestyle (despite some who would argue that singles aren't really swingers). There are fewer couples in the lifestyle and even fewer single ladies (again despite that 'swingles aren't swingers' argument). So even factoring in the fact that ALL swinger females are insatiable minxes who have sex almost continuously there just isn't enough time in the day for them to get around to fucking each and every single guy. Sorry, man.
My advice to you, and you aren't gonna like it, is to take all those amazing qualities you possess and find a hottie of your own that you can go out into the wild world of swingdom and share with other people. Swinging really is a couple centric activity. There's a reason it used to be called "wife swapping" and people wearing like disco clothes and gold chains and stuff used to go to key parties. Can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if a bunch of single guys threw their keys in the bowel at a key party?
ps- If you'd rather not find a woman to swing with and prefer to keep your single male status my advice to you would be to grow a very thick skin, become more patient than a Buddhist monk and never ever ever come across as desperate or WORSE pissy that you don't feel like you're getting your fair share of hot swinger tail.
Cold hard truth time, JOSH. Single guys in the lifestyle are a dime a dozen (that's a really old fashioned way of saying there are a LOT of you). And believe it or not you all claim you're super spiffy dudes (you're not...not all of you anyway). If you all WERE super duper All American boy-next-door stud muffins you'd have girls falling all over you and we wouldn't be having this (single male) conversation for the bazillionth time.
So let's do the math. There are a LOT of single guys in the lifestyle (despite some who would argue that singles aren't really swingers). There are fewer couples in the lifestyle and even fewer single ladies (again despite that 'swingles aren't swingers' argument). So even factoring in the fact that ALL swinger females are insatiable minxes who have sex almost continuously there just isn't enough time in the day for them to get around to fucking each and every single guy. Sorry, man.
My advice to you, and you aren't gonna like it, is to take all those amazing qualities you possess and find a hottie of your own that you can go out into the wild world of swingdom and share with other people. Swinging really is a couple centric activity. There's a reason it used to be called "wife swapping" and people wearing like disco clothes and gold chains and stuff used to go to key parties. Can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if a bunch of single guys threw their keys in the bowel at a key party?
ps- If you'd rather not find a woman to swing with and prefer to keep your single male status my advice to you would be to grow a very thick skin, become more patient than a Buddhist monk and never ever ever come across as desperate or WORSE pissy that you don't feel like you're getting your fair share of hot swinger tail.
Very well put Evil !!!!!! We hangout with single males but I think it's so funny how they think they are all that !!!! but single ........
Heya Josh. These are all extremely well thought out responses. Take them to heart. I'd also like to add that quite a few couples opt to have the man from a friendly, familiar, and secure couple fill the role of the second man from time to time. Most of the people here have healthy, loving, and established lives with someone they trust deeply. The less in-roads for unstable elements, the better.
Don't take it personally. When I was active as part of a couple screening all the single men was a chore. There is an unfortunately well-deserved stigma tied to single men in this scene. Many figure that swingers are an easy lay and end up simply being a nuisance, or worse, a creep or downright menace. Disrespect and deception abound. That's not a personal knock as I don't know ya.
Be smart. Be respectful. Don't fret if you're not a hot commodity. It's the nature of the scene.
Don't take it personally. When I was active as part of a couple screening all the single men was a chore. There is an unfortunately well-deserved stigma tied to single men in this scene. Many figure that swingers are an easy lay and end up simply being a nuisance, or worse, a creep or downright menace. Disrespect and deception abound. That's not a personal knock as I don't know ya.
Be smart. Be respectful. Don't fret if you're not a hot commodity. It's the nature of the scene.
I enjoy reading every response to the hardship of the single male but the overall fact is very few couples want a single male. The idea of swinging is MORE of the desire for couples to enjoy other couples. Sorry as far as "we" are concerned the idea of a single male is worthless. I don't care if you're this so called wonderful listener or that you can screw all night and satisfy any female out there that's not why we all have entered this lifestyle. We do so to share a special moment with others not provide for some needy single male trying to convey how wonderful they are and that they should be given a chance. If you feel that you've been judged or wrongfully accused of being called a scum bag then more than likely it's true that's why you're single duhhhh..other perverted sites are out there just for your type so go set up a universal account and bug other single males or find someone and become a couple but other than that leave the couples alone to enjoy the life style. If you crave a quickie or a sexual one sided fantasy then go on E-Harmony and get away from Swingular...this is just my couples view point of single males. Happy hunting
Diff'rent strokes is a real thing.
>accused of being called a scum bag then more than likely it's true that's why you're single duhhhh
This is the only time I'll touch the poop, and it's anecdotal. I've never been called a scum bag, but know guys who have. More often than not it's the fault of other men who are legitimately scummy poisoning the well and reinforcing that unfortunate, yet deserved, bad rap single guys have in the scene that I referenced above.
>accused of being called a scum bag then more than likely it's true that's why you're single duhhhh
This is the only time I'll touch the poop, and it's anecdotal. I've never been called a scum bag, but know guys who have. More often than not it's the fault of other men who are legitimately scummy poisoning the well and reinforcing that unfortunate, yet deserved, bad rap single guys have in the scene that I referenced above.
If you feel insulted that's of a personal nature. I can tell by your desire to incorporate BIG words that you're an educated individual who gets off on convincing others of your high intellect. Facts are facts if you're a single male on a swingers site there is reason to why your status is SINGLE....Again I can only speak for the few. My wife and I are very attractive and outgoing and enjoy the pleasures of other couples NO SINGLE MALES. You asked on the forum a question about single males did you really expect a come and screw us reply...silly boy
Tell us how you REALLY feel, jv666.
sorry Evildoers but stupid people get my goat
Josh asked an honest question. I'm not sure anyone was asking for hostility.
This thread was going well.
This thread was going well.
jv666playful wrote:
sorry Evildoers but stupid people get my goat
Look, I hear where you're coming from. But I sort of know this guy. Never actually met him, but there was some, I guess you could say, interaction through emails. And he sort of screwed something up, kind of embarrassed me with someone else, and pissed me off. For a minute. And the reason it was only for a minute (the fact that she thought it wasn't a big thing helped, I'll admit) was that he'd made an honest, but sort of clueless, mistake. And that he really wasn't aware that not doing what you say you're going to, and not letting anyone know until the very last minute when you could have let them know a lot sooner, is a much bigger thing here than it is in the vanilla world. But now he does know, and I'd be amazed if he ever did anything like that again. And my read on him is that he isn't stupid, just ignorant, a basically nice guy trying to figure out how to navigate in an unknown territory.
And yeah, this is a topic that keeps coming up. But you know what? I suspect that the guys that bring it up are actually serious about the lifestyle, and that the ones who try it and find out it wasn't the "all the girls want to fuck" scene they thought it would be just shrug their shoulders and go back to the bars. I
I suspect that a lot of swingers didn't get into it until they were a couple. And I also suspect that they might not realize what it's like for a single guy, if he's one that isn't just trying to find a quick and easy way to get laid. Believe it or not, not all of them are.
Me, it's a case of been there, done that. Back when "free love" was all the rage, before Herpes, AIDS, or any other really serious STD, when any guy who couldn't go out on just about any Friday night and end up in bed with some girl had to be either the Hunchback of Notre Dame or a complete and total asshole,I was a single male in the lifestyle. I sure as Hell wasn't trying to find an easy way to get laid, in those days it didn't take much of an effort at all. And you'd think swinging was easier then, with sex being such a casual, no big deal, thing. But it was actually even harder and more complicated. As Evil said, it was called wife swapping, and it was a seriously bad thing as far as society was concerned. Swinger functions, like Sinful Saturdays, Risquee Soiree stuff, Meet n Greets? No way, Jose. There were only private, invite only, parties. There wasn't any internet, if someone was silly enough to try to set something like that up and advertise in the papers (the only avenue available then), no paper was going to take the ad. Everything was word of mouth, and that word pretty much only went to couples. It was actually dangerous. There were cases (not a lot, thankfully, but some) of the local police somehow finding out about a wife swapping party, raiding it, and hitting everyone there with morals charges. Which could even cost people their jobs. That was in the '70s, it did start to sort of loosen up in the '80s, which is when I left the country and the scene, but it was still more complicated than it is today, with no internet and everything word of mouth and single men by invitation only. So why did I bother, when sex was so damned easy to find everywhere? I LIKED these people, that's why. They were ignoring what everyone thought they should or shouldn't do, and were doing what they thought was right for them. Which is how I've believed, since I was maybe 15, that everyone should be.
Point being, not all single males are JUST trying to get laid. So if someone comes along who takes the time and effort to ask how he can navigate what are some pretty treacherous waters, I think he deserves to be treated as if he's serious, just a little clueless, and not be ridiculed for it. Hell, even Evil, who's quicker than anyone I know to jump on utter stupidity with both feet, and ridicule the Hell out of it, gave the guy a break and some good, if blatant and not sugar coated, advice.
For those of you who (unlike us) HAVEN'T been swinging since before Noah bought his first Hobie Cat and took sailing lessons here is a Wiki link about swinging. Has some interesting tidbits (guesses?) on the history of swinging.
Wikipedia-Swinging
Remind me to someday regale all you young whippersnappers with daring tales of swinging pre-internet. Hint: It was a LOT harder to find and hook up with people. One could argue that the internet helped and also hurt swinging by make the literal and figurative cost of admission to swinging very very low thus inviting douche wad twatwaffles, cheaters, hooligans and ruffians into the mix.
Wikipedia-Swinging
Remind me to someday regale all you young whippersnappers with daring tales of swinging pre-internet. Hint: It was a LOT harder to find and hook up with people. One could argue that the internet helped and also hurt swinging by make the literal and figurative cost of admission to swinging very very low thus inviting douche wad twatwaffles, cheaters, hooligans and ruffians into the mix.
I remember finding a swinger mag as a kid in AK. Cheap print stock. Lots of black bars over eyes. A deep-seated sense of feeling sorry for whoever the fuck was reading that in AK, as they were circling listings as far south as Louisiana.
We found our first swinger mag at a dirty book store in Cleveland. Thought it was a joke at first. But yeah, Polaroid pics and P.O Boxes were how people hooked up in the late 80's (when we started swinging). And I vividly recall the first response we got from OUR ad (after we had moved to Utah) from a single guy. Up to that point we'd never run across a single person either in the magazines or at any party or club. This guy was a DOOZY. Sent us not only pics of him holding various weapons but also a heartfelt letter detailing his work as a "CIA spy" and his certification of several "black belts". He also included a photocopy of a form letter he had received back from Orin Hatch's office thanking him for being a concerned citizen and taking the time to let Senator Hatch know his concerns about relevant current issues. 

Kinda wish I didn't miss out on that scene. Wow. Anyone can bullshit online, but that level of nuttery takes dedication.
EVILDOERS wrote:
For those of you who (unlike us) HAVEN'T been swinging since before Noah bought his first Hobie Cat and took sailing lessons here is a Wiki link about swinging. Has some interesting tidbits (guesses?) on the history of swinging.
Wikipedia-Swinging
Remind me to someday regale all you young whippersnappers with daring tales of swinging pre-internet. Hint: It was a LOT harder to find and hook up with people. One could argue that the internet helped and also hurt swinging by make the literal and figurative cost of admission to swinging very very low thus inviting douche wad twatwaffles, cheaters, hooligans and ruffians into the mix.
I don't remember much literal cost, at least not in money, but there was sure a figurative cost, and it was pretty damned hard for a single guy to figure out how to come up with it. As for Whippersnappers, remember, Evil, I've got 13 years on even you. Of course, I was about 23 or so when I started, so YOU just might have been swinging before I was.
Single males? Wow. Thought they were a myth. Really how could such a cool perfect dud who can dive oral for hours and has a 11 inch dick be single.
We actually steer clear of them. Not really I terested for the most part. More fun with couples. But with that said.
October we actually invited two single males over, one the first week and another the third. Both have Been friends for years, never played. Oh sure they have rubbed a bookie. Or got a kiss but no down and dirty.
Both were invited over to enjoy some drinks, no thoughts of playing and after a few hours of just talking mrs. Simple decided she wanted to play. So in both instances, we were not looking to play, but friends, timing, and circumstance for whatever reason got mrs. Simple in the mood to play.
Will it ever happen agin, who knows. But in our experience every single guy we have ever played with was a long time friend. And with no plan we ended up playing. Had they only came over to fuck, I am absolutely positive it would not have happened.
We actually steer clear of them. Not really I terested for the most part. More fun with couples. But with that said.
October we actually invited two single males over, one the first week and another the third. Both have Been friends for years, never played. Oh sure they have rubbed a bookie. Or got a kiss but no down and dirty.
Both were invited over to enjoy some drinks, no thoughts of playing and after a few hours of just talking mrs. Simple decided she wanted to play. So in both instances, we were not looking to play, but friends, timing, and circumstance for whatever reason got mrs. Simple in the mood to play.
Will it ever happen agin, who knows. But in our experience every single guy we have ever played with was a long time friend. And with no plan we ended up playing. Had they only came over to fuck, I am absolutely positive it would not have happened.
TMACA wrote:EVILDOERS wrote:
For those of you who (unlike us) HAVEN'T been swinging since before Noah bought his first Hobie Cat and took sailing lessons here is a Wiki link about swinging. Has some interesting tidbits (guesses?) on the history of swinging.
Wikipedia-Swinging
Remind me to someday regale all you young whippersnappers with daring tales of swinging pre-internet. Hint: It was a LOT harder to find and hook up with people. One could argue that the internet helped and also hurt swinging by make the literal and figurative cost of admission to swinging very very low thus inviting douche wad twatwaffles, cheaters, hooligans and ruffians into the mix.
I don't remember much literal cost, at least not in money, but there was sure a figurative cost, and it was pretty damned hard for a single guy to figure out how to come up with it. As for Whippersnappers, remember, Evil, I've got 13 years on even you. Of course, I was about 23 or so when I started, so YOU just might have been swinging before I was.
Hey, bucko. Polaroid cameras didn't grow on trees ya know. And our P.O. box was like 10 bucks a month! Then there was the HUGE cost of depilatory creams, gaudy gold jewelry and Nehru jackets.

EVILDOERS wrote:
Hey, bucko. Polaroid cameras didn't grow on trees ya know.
I was told they grew on bushes because shaving wasn't the "in" thing during the 70's through mid-80's.
Hey, bucko. Polaroid cameras didn't grow on trees ya know. And our P.O. box was like 10 bucks a month! Then there was the HUGE cost of depilatory creams, gaudy gold jewelry and Nehru jackets.
Well, that was the ONLY advantage to being a single male in the lifestyle back then. NOBODY was going to ever answer any ad you put in the mag, so there wasn't any point in spending the big bucks on a Polaroid, and they didn't come out with cheaper ones that most people could afford until what, late '70s I think it was? (I wonder how many people on the site ever even saw one of those) Anyway,no need for a camera or a PO box for replies, there wouldn't ever be any replies. That "advantage" was offset big time by the fact that the only way you ever even knew about any gatherings, let alone got into them, was if someone knew you and asked you. Which hardly ever happened even if you knew a couple dozen swingers, like I did, because it WAS essentially wife swapping back then. Or if not full swapping, a sort of swapping with everyone in the same room So if you didn't have a lady with you, you had nothing to offer. I was incredibly lucky 'cause I was really good friends with a few couples, friends to the point that I once in a great while got to got with the mrs. to a party. If it weren't for that I doubt I'd have ever gotten into anything. I'm not certain, because it was something that never came up with me personally, but as far as I knew, back then single guys weren't even welcome if a couple brought them. It was all one guy and one girl, or forget about it. I don't really know what went on through the few mags, because, knowing it'd be a waste of time, I never bothered. And I never had to buy disco clothes, I grew up with Hippie rock and folk, and always hated disco as what destroyed rock and roll as well as folk. Hell, the only difference in my clothes now is that the jeans aren't flares or bells and the shirts aren't either flowered of psychedelic 'cause nobody makes them anymore. But I do still have Frye harness boots, same as in the '70s.
We have personally been to some parties where the crowd was a bit older than we are, and we could tell because all the guys dicks had sideburns. But seriously, we are just glad that the swinging lifestyle has survived and is in fact thriving. But I digress, in answer to the poor dude who started this thread. " What they said" or "all of the above" would work too. We actually like single males, only problem is that one bad apple, and then you are forced to screen like someone who is applying for a loan. It's even more difficult here where we live now. There is a language barrier, so I have to translate for the Mrs. and although it doesn't take fluency to scream fuck me in any other language, it's nice to at least get to know someone. Oh, and the European anti soap thing takes some patience.
"because all the guys dicks had sideburns"
That's both hilarious and extremely disturbing on SO many levels...not the least of which is the whole current hipster scene what with their big bushy beards and all. Makes ya kinda wonder what they've got goin' on down there south of the border.
That's both hilarious and extremely disturbing on SO many levels...not the least of which is the whole current hipster scene what with their big bushy beards and all. Makes ya kinda wonder what they've got goin' on down there south of the border.

Allrighty. I really started participating again after a few years' break this past weekend. First impressions as a single dude in this scene, or really any scene as a single dude since high school.
It's not bad. It's really not bad.
Be personable. Be genuine. Don't be a pushy ass creep. People looking for single guys signed up on a swinger site for sex most likely. Huge fuckin' surprise. Doing nothing but throwing sex in peoples' faces is surprisingly a turn-off for many. For others it's not. For those that want nothing but sex talk, bring it to the table when they let it be known. Otherwise you may come off as simple and desperate. Worse yet, agenda-driven and unstable. A lot of the couples here want reassurance that they may have a pocket-dick ready to go who they actually hold a conversation with and wouldn't be afraid to have in their home.
Fuckin' think.
Offer up something other than a cock, unless they come to you saying "We need someone to fill er up". All single dudes have dicks (with a few tragic exceptions I'm assumin'). Try to at least make the person with the dick not completely alienating. Some of the single guys here would be gobsmacked if they knew how many couples list SM as a "no" simply because they shop around on their own terms. There's also some single women protectin' their necks and partyin' responsibly by shopping with extremely misleading accounts. I don't blame them.
If you dislike the animosity some people show you for being a single dude, just let it slide. That's their scene. Most people actually consider them to be insecure assholes. Let it slide. If you can't let sleights, rejection, and unwarranted attacks slide here yet insist on soldiering through it *you are in an environment that is unhealthy for you*. Stop exposing yourself to it. Go elsewhere.
I'm not a player. I'm not a dog. I'm here due to the quality of the people that you can meet and have fun with if you prove to be something other than a guy who brags about fucking his pick-em-up truck and how he totally has 13 inches of dick that he keeps in a metal jock because women flock to it whether they mean to or not. Stop whining. Think about what you're doing. Make note of what's up around you.
I say this as a guy whose avatar is a shirt with unicorns fucking on it.
It's not bad. It's really not bad.
Be personable. Be genuine. Don't be a pushy ass creep. People looking for single guys signed up on a swinger site for sex most likely. Huge fuckin' surprise. Doing nothing but throwing sex in peoples' faces is surprisingly a turn-off for many. For others it's not. For those that want nothing but sex talk, bring it to the table when they let it be known. Otherwise you may come off as simple and desperate. Worse yet, agenda-driven and unstable. A lot of the couples here want reassurance that they may have a pocket-dick ready to go who they actually hold a conversation with and wouldn't be afraid to have in their home.
Fuckin' think.
Offer up something other than a cock, unless they come to you saying "We need someone to fill er up". All single dudes have dicks (with a few tragic exceptions I'm assumin'). Try to at least make the person with the dick not completely alienating. Some of the single guys here would be gobsmacked if they knew how many couples list SM as a "no" simply because they shop around on their own terms. There's also some single women protectin' their necks and partyin' responsibly by shopping with extremely misleading accounts. I don't blame them.
If you dislike the animosity some people show you for being a single dude, just let it slide. That's their scene. Most people actually consider them to be insecure assholes. Let it slide. If you can't let sleights, rejection, and unwarranted attacks slide here yet insist on soldiering through it *you are in an environment that is unhealthy for you*. Stop exposing yourself to it. Go elsewhere.
I'm not a player. I'm not a dog. I'm here due to the quality of the people that you can meet and have fun with if you prove to be something other than a guy who brags about fucking his pick-em-up truck and how he totally has 13 inches of dick that he keeps in a metal jock because women flock to it whether they mean to or not. Stop whining. Think about what you're doing. Make note of what's up around you.
I say this as a guy whose avatar is a shirt with unicorns fucking on it.
Slow clap.............

I've never opted away from single dudes, but lately I'm disappointed by the folks with couple profiles who say they're single now. I'm not unhappy with them because they're single. I'm more disappointed that they couldn't be bothered to send the simple email that changes the profile. I'm not accusing people of hoping for a loophole... At least not all of them, but it's either laziness or deception.
MANY single men put couple simply because they get more attention. Then if you contact them they say "wife does not play" or they show up alone and say "she is not feeling well tonight". Some websites a couple can get a free profile so single men will set up a couple profile to get free access then say she solos and he solos and he would like to play with a couple or the wife. I have nothing against single men, I solo and enjoy them. I have a HUGE problem with "the single male" who is the one who shows up alone without planning to meet anyone or without any friends. The one who is creepy and puts his hands all over the chicks or ignores the Mr and just talks to the Mrs. Next time you go out look around and you will EASILY sort out single men and the single male. *Ten*
WTFBICPL wrote:
We have personally been to some parties where the crowd was a bit older than we are, and we could tell because all the guys dicks had sideburns. But seriously, we are just glad that the swinging lifestyle has survived and is in fact thriving. But I digress, in answer to the poor dude who started this thread. " What they said" or "all of the above" would work too. We actually like single males, only problem is that one bad apple, and then you are forced to screen like someone who is applying for a loan. It's even more difficult here where we live now. There is a language barrier, so I have to translate for the Mrs. and although it doesn't take fluency to scream fuck me in any other language, it's nice to at least get to know someone. Oh, and the European anti soap thing takes some patience.
Juts out of curiosity, where ARE you living now? And, since it seems to be Europe, what about the girls not shaving armpits or legs? Nor anywhere else, as far as I saw, but that was back in the '80s, and shaving things besides legs and pits wasn't as common then as it is now even in the States.
When I first entered the lifestyle (this is Mrs. talking)...I was single and had a single guy friend who introduced me to the whole thing. He was/is the most respectful, sexy, and amazing man! It gave me a very different opinion on single males. I was honored to have him as my friend....and hold single males to that same standard.
Basically- don't be a dick and there wont be an issue!!
Basically- don't be a dick and there wont be an issue!!

Good succinct answer, DREWNCHELLE. I would only add...."Don't be a dick and don't make it all ABOUT your dick." I think that's where a lot of single guys fail. They think that THEIR dick is somehow special. Yes swinger chicks are lookin' for some strange just like the guys but unless your dick can do tricks like tie itself into really intricate shapes or hum The Star Spangled Banner it's still just a penis and swinger chicks (most of 'em anyway) have seen a buttload (and no that's not a pun about anal sex). Come to think of it that advice applies us married fellas too.
EVILDOERS wrote:
Good succinct answer, DREWNCHELLE. I would only add...."Don't be a dick and don't make it all ABOUT your dick." I think that's where a lot of single guys fail. They think that THEIR dick is somehow special. Yes swinger chicks are lookin' for some strange just like the guys but unless your dick can do tricks like tie itself into really intricate shapes or hum The Star Spangled Banner it's still just a penis and swinger chicks (most of 'em anyway) have seen a buttload (and no that's not a pun about anal sex). Come to think of it that advice applies us married fellas too.
Wow....now THAT is a thread I want to read: Dicks that can tie themselves into intricate shapes and hum the Star Spangled Banner!!!!

...Mrs.
SHADOWINGWHISPERS wrote:
I am tired of reading this book
MR
Nobody's forcin' ya, brah. You could try not clicking on it...or even not reading it after you click on it. That's usually what works for me.

I log in everyday just to see Evil's comments.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Wow the OP ask a simple question and you guys drag it out. The OP Just needs to read more profiles and don't send blind friend request.
why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys?
So you're asking why do swingers prefer MFF instead of MMF?
Because most women in the life-style are bi-sexual to varying degrees, and most men are not. Not even a little bit. Thus, MFF becomes the "third wheel" combination that most swinger couples can enjoy together. (Versus MMF, which is really more just about pleasing the female).
Why is is to hard for a single-male to find a couple to play with? Well, see above.. most couples don't want MMF... and those that DO want MMF have about 10,000 of you to choose from. Supply and demand.
This isn't that complex.
What's the difference between a FMF and a FFM? Is it logistics? Position? Which one is the designated bitch?
You guys should totally become swinger missionaries and go out and convert a whole buttload (again, no pun) of single ladies. We would totally name a little corner of Swingular in your honor. How does the DELICIOUSLYWET memorial busted chat room sound?

You guys should totally become swinger missionaries and go out and convert a whole buttload (again, no pun) of single ladies. We would totally name a little corner of Swingular in your honor. How does the DELICIOUSLYWET memorial busted chat room sound?

Ah, so the order of the letters in the acronym denotes who is the designated diva and gets the sexual spotlight in a given threesome. Interesting. Learn something new every day. So what is the acronym for the non visiting lady getting the most attention? MFF? Can different punctuation change the meaning further? What is a M(F)F? Or a F^m^F? This is fun! I wonder if they make a secret swinger decoder ring so I can tell exactly wtf I'm supposed to do and who I'm supposed to do it to. 

Wouldn't it be loverly.
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:
We will go to work on it. We are going to post a bunch of articles on Linked In and Twitter on the advantages of social networking naked and the single woman. I think a FMF is where the ladies make the dude the center of attention and a FFM is where the visiting lady is the center of attention. We like either scenario but really in a hook up with a single lady it seems more appropriate that she be the "F" in the middle and the center of attention.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I have always wondered about that, and have been too dumb to figure out the obvious answer. Maybe a tiny bit 'cause even when I was in my 20s (yeah, back when Christ was a Corporal) I always figured the girl, or one of the girls, was just plain SUPPOSED to be the center of attention. The thing is, overall, it seems to me that it's kind of easier for the male to get to orgasm, or at least the mechanics of it tend to be simpler, than it is for the female, therefore the female should get the lion's share of attention or she might get shortchanged on the deal. Once she's happy, it shouldn't be difficult to get him there fairly quickly. ~ Terry
BMSHELL wrote:why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys?
So you're asking why do swingers prefer MFF instead of MMF?
Because most women in the life-style are bi-sexual to varying degrees, and most men are not. Not even a little bit. Thus, MFF becomes the "third wheel" combination that most swinger couples can enjoy together. (Versus MMF, which is really more just about pleasing the female).
Why is is to hard for a single-male to find a couple to play with? Well, see above.. most couples don't want MMF... and those that DO want MMF have about 10,000 of you to choose from. Supply and demand.
This isn't that complex.
Yup. Tons more bi gals than bi guys. Probably 'cause, for just bunches of reasons, it's a lot more "acceptable" for a gal to like playing with gals than it is for guys to like playing with guys. And, as much as some of us see ourselves as rejecting society's "norms" and doing what we ourselves think is right, or acceptable, we still grew up in that society, had its standards pounded into us for years, and just can't truly get completely away from all of them. So more gals are likely to try it out and find out they like it. ~ Terry
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:
Mrs. Delicious is really good at "getting the ball rolling" after a bit of socializing very good at demonstrations just in case anyone is confused. So any interested single women looking for a first experience can rest easy knowing she will make sure everyone is in the right place at the right time. Really all she needs is a room somewhere, far away from the cold night air, to make the threesome lovely.
Damn, I have just GOT to meet you guys someday. But, damn it, I'm male. Wait a minute, my wife is always telling me I'm really a girl, usually any time she finds out I can do some girly thing like cooking or sewing or whatever, or if I come out with an opinion that for some reason (which I never comprehend) seems more female than male, and just last week she said "You really are a girl, I'm just waiting for you to start developing a vagina". And I did start growing a left boob when for a while they had me on some weird med that completely shuts down all testosterone production (which she pointed out when she made the vagina remark). Does that count? ~ Terry
Just stop having expectations and just be a damn good person... if a couple wants to meet you they will reach out to you... if you have to sell how much of a "good guy" you are, then are you really!?
STARTERPUP wrote:
Other states' swinging communities tend to be a little more open minded and accepting than here (I know I'll get slammed for that comment but the truth is the truth). With that said you've just got to be genuine, nice, outspoken, open minded and always eager to please. Some genuinely open minded and cool couples will enjoy your good attitude and become your friends :-)
Don't worry. Not gonna slam ya. Just curious what state(s) you're talking about. We've lived and 'swung' :-) in a number of different states. Additionally we're on another, older swing site that is FAR larger than this one and people on that site often complain about how closed, cliquish and inhospitable swinging is in their particular area (most notably Minnesota where the site originated and especially in California where there is ostensibly a much larger population of swingers than in most areas). Personally we've found the swinging community here to be much more open than many areas we've visited. Of course openness is relative when it comes to an activity that most people tend to hide, like swinging.
Josh, watcha talkin' 'bout, man? Yer "brahs" here be lovin' on ya! All this free publicity as they ramble on 'bout your situation? Just think if they weren't lovin' on ya like they are? You think they like or treat unicorns better than you? Oh hell no! The last pretty lady that posted on here in reference to a potential gangbang was run clean off the site with references to her being a prostitute and jokes about her needing a bag over her head. Yep, she had the folks who were helpin' her set up and organize the event take it down and, as far as I know, she bailed clean on out of here.
So yep, buddy, be glad the "brahs" on this forum appreciate the single fellas more than those pesky unicorn hussies brazen enough to announce their participation in a gangbang event. "Brah" power, baby!
So yep, buddy, be glad the "brahs" on this forum appreciate the single fellas more than those pesky unicorn hussies brazen enough to announce their participation in a gangbang event. "Brah" power, baby!
Jesus Spin Doctoring Christ, PALS! Yeah it sounds pretty fucking bad when you boil down 4 pages of thread posts into your little 'taken out of context' sound bites. Unfortunately I was there and read the entire thread multiple times and there were no personal attacks on this women or the "event" organizers. There WERE a lot of questions regarding how close a party like this came to the legal definition of prostitution and how setting that precedent might affect our little swinging community here. You could totally work as a writer for Faux News. By all means keep bringing this up. I'm sure you can somehow lead it into the Lava Hot Springs thread as well . 

Oops, excuse me all ta hell, all I did was regurgitate what she said in her last post on this site, which was indeed in that thread where she was obviously VERY upset. She (and I) must have completely misunderstood what was being articulated there and the tone with which it was written. Either way, she's gone, so no worries to ya.
My apologies for her and I misunderstanding you and your bros here.
My apologies for her and I misunderstanding you and your bros here.
Yes, there were a lot of people who, in my opinion, took things far too personally and seemed to see everything that didn't agree with their viewpoint and/or agenda as an attack. I don't know how we ever got to the point in this country where scrutiny of something is equivalent to an attack but it seems inevitable in even the most innocuous threads that SOMEONE will get butthurt over something and feel like they're being singled out and/or attacked. That's the problem with any text based platform. With no other context (facial expression, tone, body language, etc.) it's far too easy to read rancor and malice into an opposing viewpoint. I'm guilty of misconstruing things as well at times...and also of coming off overly sarcastic when I don't mean to be. The only thing that perturbed me (takes a LOT to get me even close to upset or angry-lol) was you bringing this up in a different thread. Seemed a tad trollish to drag up stuff from a deleted thread and post it in this thread. But as long you totally meant it in a nice way and not to beat me over the head with it I'm cool. 

Oh, and by way of announcement...there will be a clandestine meeting of the Secret Order Of My Bros. at our usual place, City Cemetery, at the stroke of midnight. Bring your cloaks and Satanic paraphernalia.
Hopefully that came across as more facetious than sarcastic.

Hopefully that came across as more facetious than sarcastic.

Yes, you are absolutely right, the thread was deleted. The thread was not deleted AS she was being brow-beaten, not deleted immediately after she posted, expressing her obvious distress and sadness at being brow-beaten, it was deleted after I made a bitchy post about HOW THE HELL ya'll were coming across as brow-beating her and pointed out that she'd deleted her event and bailed out. Funny how that happened.
Oops, only she and I felt that she was being brow-beaten .... sorry, I digressed--in your judgement it was all good fun and very informational. I don't really care if you perceive that I'm beating you over the head with this because, just as you weren't brow-beating a cute and wild lady on here, I'm not trying to beat you over the head with it. In fact, I thought the part where you suggested she might need a "bag over her head" and then backed right off saying it was just a joke was just SUPER OVER THE TOP FUCKING FUNNY! HILL-FUCKING-ARIOUS. I don't know how she (or I) EVER could have thought that the tone of that thread was mean-spirited. Oh hell no, just us women getting all "butt-hurt." Yessirree.
Oops, only she and I felt that she was being brow-beaten .... sorry, I digressed--in your judgement it was all good fun and very informational. I don't really care if you perceive that I'm beating you over the head with this because, just as you weren't brow-beating a cute and wild lady on here, I'm not trying to beat you over the head with it. In fact, I thought the part where you suggested she might need a "bag over her head" and then backed right off saying it was just a joke was just SUPER OVER THE TOP FUCKING FUNNY! HILL-FUCKING-ARIOUS. I don't know how she (or I) EVER could have thought that the tone of that thread was mean-spirited. Oh hell no, just us women getting all "butt-hurt." Yessirree.
Well I had nothing to do with the thread being deleted and I was not brow beating her or anyone else. Yes I did make a disparaging remark that you totally took out of context AGAIN (assuming you even actually read my original remark)! I made it very early on in the thread before I was certain if the gang bang thing was even real or just something to punk the single guys. After a while, once it was clear it was real I regretted the joke I made in very poor taste (still not knowing if it was a real woman involved in this event). I briefly thought about editing or deleting my comment but thought that was what a disingenuous passive aggressive asshole would do so I decided I should own it and take my lumps no matter how much it was misconstrued...and it was misconstrued plenty. I NEVER called her a prostitute or insinuated anything close to that. And fwiw, there is some very compelling additional context to this whole story that you're not privy to. I won't drag it out here but if you'd care to I'd be happy to fill you in on it via private email.
So no one ever wrote a damn thing addressing her after she made her post in which it was obvious that she was hurting. No one. So maybe I'm feeling some guilt. I saw her post when I was at work, at the end of a break, and couldn't really address it or support her then. By the time I did, several hours later, the thread was up for maybe five more minutes and then deleted.
I know you didn't delete it. But the timing of it sucked. As she was getting beaten up (that's how she obviously felt and that's how I perceived it, so I'm going with it) the thread just drug on and on. Anyone who stated an opinion which differed from the Bro's (no big conspiracy theory, but there were three or four of you beating the drums) would get rehashed and buried by one or more of those bros. Ya'll couldn't just state your opinion and then let others state theirs so that it was balanced. Nope. Gotta be sure that everyone recognized ya'll were "right." Doesn't matter if it was at the expense of a wild spirited woman. Ya'll were gonna be RIGHT, damn it.
I tend to have an affinity for such a woman (no, I didn't know this particular lady). It's easy to say that we're all open-minded and women run the show here and other such drivel, but I've personally seen females getting slammed here and I've experienced it myself. I've been harassed here as being a "player" because I don't fuck everything in sight so I must not be serious. I've had STD's wished upon me "like a slut like [me] deserves." We can be "slutty" and it's all great as long as it's in a male approved framework. But an independent woman, chasing down experiences like this woman was trying to do? She doesn't deserve the respect. She deserves a fucking paper bag and a good dose of ridicule 'cause she didn't set it up properly. Dumb cunt.
I am not privy to any behind the scenes stories. I don't visit here a hell of a lot because this place can be dominated by a crowd that really can take on a negative tone -- then back away with hands held up all innocent, "Who me? Oh, you're just too easily butt-hurt." Guilty as charged. I sometimes am easily butt-hurt (avoiding all anal sex puns at this point). I am, she was, and now she's gone. Was it worth it?
Send me the behind the scenes story if you feel it compelling. That's where I've usually kept myself for the last 6 months or so. There are some amazing, super fun people that you never see or hear from out here in the forum. Maybe that wild and crazy woman who was gonna do the gangbang still hovers in the back areas here. If so I hope she'll email me too. I'd love to meet her.
Off topic here in this thread? IDK. I interpret the OP to be complaining about how this place or community can be a bit harsh on the single guys. My point would simply be that it can be pretty damn harsh on the women too.
I know you didn't delete it. But the timing of it sucked. As she was getting beaten up (that's how she obviously felt and that's how I perceived it, so I'm going with it) the thread just drug on and on. Anyone who stated an opinion which differed from the Bro's (no big conspiracy theory, but there were three or four of you beating the drums) would get rehashed and buried by one or more of those bros. Ya'll couldn't just state your opinion and then let others state theirs so that it was balanced. Nope. Gotta be sure that everyone recognized ya'll were "right." Doesn't matter if it was at the expense of a wild spirited woman. Ya'll were gonna be RIGHT, damn it.
I tend to have an affinity for such a woman (no, I didn't know this particular lady). It's easy to say that we're all open-minded and women run the show here and other such drivel, but I've personally seen females getting slammed here and I've experienced it myself. I've been harassed here as being a "player" because I don't fuck everything in sight so I must not be serious. I've had STD's wished upon me "like a slut like [me] deserves." We can be "slutty" and it's all great as long as it's in a male approved framework. But an independent woman, chasing down experiences like this woman was trying to do? She doesn't deserve the respect. She deserves a fucking paper bag and a good dose of ridicule 'cause she didn't set it up properly. Dumb cunt.
I am not privy to any behind the scenes stories. I don't visit here a hell of a lot because this place can be dominated by a crowd that really can take on a negative tone -- then back away with hands held up all innocent, "Who me? Oh, you're just too easily butt-hurt." Guilty as charged. I sometimes am easily butt-hurt (avoiding all anal sex puns at this point). I am, she was, and now she's gone. Was it worth it?
Send me the behind the scenes story if you feel it compelling. That's where I've usually kept myself for the last 6 months or so. There are some amazing, super fun people that you never see or hear from out here in the forum. Maybe that wild and crazy woman who was gonna do the gangbang still hovers in the back areas here. If so I hope she'll email me too. I'd love to meet her.
Off topic here in this thread? IDK. I interpret the OP to be complaining about how this place or community can be a bit harsh on the single guys. My point would simply be that it can be pretty damn harsh on the women too.
Naw, not compelling at all. Just thought you might want to hear some backstory that might make some of my comments a little easier to understand. But if you didn't really get a chance to read the entire thread for context it probably wouldn't matter. It seems like you've made up your mind and, perhaps viewed through the lens of the many negative experiences you've had here, decided where the truth lies. For my part I'll let it drop now.
Fwiw, you language and rhetoric ("Dumb cunt.") was FAR harsher than ANYTHING written in that thread. I'm sorry you've had such terrible experiences in the lifestyle. I hope if you decide to continue swinging that the rest of your experiences are good ones.
Fwiw, you language and rhetoric ("Dumb cunt.") was FAR harsher than ANYTHING written in that thread. I'm sorry you've had such terrible experiences in the lifestyle. I hope if you decide to continue swinging that the rest of your experiences are good ones.
Naw, your manzier is just on fire...or it could be the Holy Ghost. Don't get too excited. (Insert deity of choice here) is inordinately concerned by what we do with our genitals and who we do it with and will get pissed if you get too excited.
EVILDOERS wrote:I read the entire thread, which is obviously more than what you read of my post which you're referring to here! I don't know why you're going off all butt-hurt about my comments and reflections. Sheesh, send the "backstory" along or don't, whatever, you've obviously already misinterpreted anything I've written anyway.
Naw, not compelling at all. Just thought you might want to hear some backstory that might make some of my comments a little easier to understand. But if you didn't really get a chance to read the entire thread for context it probably wouldn't matter. It seems like you've made up your mind and, perhaps viewed through the lens of the many negative experiences you've had here, decided where the truth lies. For my part I'll let it drop now.
Fwiw, you language and rhetoric ("Dumb cunt.") was FAR harsher than ANYTHING written in that thread. I'm sorry you've had such terrible experiences in the lifestyle. I hope if you decide to continue swinging that the rest of your experiences are good ones.
MISSSMITHNSIRNEWBY wrote:**Cracking up Laughing** Sorry, I got all pissed and started spouting off (not to be confused with "Spurting Off" for the male of the species). Thanks for the reminder to keep it light.
I just come here for all the friendly reassurances and outgoing warmth generated. Creates a burning in my bosom. I can visualize world peace and it excites me.
SN
Right now, Evil thinks that I should move to Colorado and do this ->

The OP thinks that I should do more of this ->

And you seem to be suggesting this ->

I like your thinking.
It's entirely possible I've misunderstood your intent as well. At this point I really don't see much point in dragging it out here or privately. And I'm not butthurt (but my pecs are a little sore from a heavy chest day at the gym). I guess I was in a hurry and didn't use enough (any?) of my usual emojis to denote that I'm not at all upset or angry. Have a great weekend!






EVILDOERS wrote:Evil, I think it's possible that you and I write sarcastic epistles that sometimes clash. This can cause some misunderstandings although I don't see how. I ENTIRELY get your last post that was directed at me, for example. Here, let me interpret your emoticons from left to right. #1-Very toothy, you're saying "Bite Me." #2-Tongue lolling out and mouth agape, you're saying "Pals, you're a drooling idiot." #3-Overly Effeminate, You're calling me a "Ditsy Blonde with too much makeup." #4-Again, the tonge hanging out, you're saying "Lick me." #5-Surgical Mask, you're saying that I smell bad and may carry communicable STD's.
It's entirely possible I've misunderstood your intent as well. At this point I really don't see much point in dragging it out here or privately. And I'm not butthurt (but my pecs are a little sore from a heavy chest day at the gym). I guess I was in a hurry and didn't use enough (any?) of my usual emojis to denote that I'm not at all upset or angry. Have a great weekend!![]()
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Well that's fine. Sir Newby has reminded me of my manners and proper forum decorum. So here's what I reply to you, even though you no longer want to drag this out:





If we're now taking manners and etiquette tips from SN we're fucked! 

NUR WENN ES NICHT TUT, WECKEN SEXUALY SIE SO VIEL DASS ES M
I blame it all...war, famine, Swingular glitches, penicillin resistant syphilis...
on Weltschmerz.
on Weltschmerz.

Worldhurt? Izzat a word?
Sorta. It was coined by Jean Paul. He was kinda the Ricky Gervais of the German Romantic writers. 

Can a single male get a hug? No?