Swingers Forum - Vets Authorized Sex 4 Times A Month

And I'm waiting with bated breath to see what people do with this one. Especially Evildoers.

They won't give out Taladafil, only Viagara. Remember - they've only authorized vets to screw 4 times a month.

I agree with Andrayway. I am proud of my service in Iraq (Korea, Panama & Germany too), but I am embarrassed when I hear this type of griping by a fellow vet. A deeply ingrained sense of pride is what pulled me through many difficult situations and complaining about not getting enough of a luxury drug or not liking the way your mileage reimbursement is calculated seems like embracing victimhood.

I don't understand how your post relates to the overall theme of this site, and I would appreciate you at easing this noise.

Experienced_Virgin wrote:

I agree with Andrayway. I am proud of my service in Iraq (Korea, Panama & Germany too), but I am embarrassed when I hear this type of griping by a fellow vet. A deeply ingrained sense of pride is what pulled me through many difficult situations and complaining about not getting enough of a luxury drug or not liking the way your mileage reimbursement is calculated seems like embracing victimhood.

I don't understand how your post relates to the overall theme of this site, and I would appreciate you at easing this noise.

How it relates is it started out as a joke about the VA deciding how often veterans should have sex, which I figured would start all kinds of jokes about Viagara and sex and stuff, but it sort of morphed into where it is right now, mainly, I guess, when someone gave the VA's answer to the 4 dose a month limit, which kinda jerked my chain.

And I would appreciate YOU thinking about this:

Your time was in a decently paid volunteer military. Your experience of war, whatever it may or may not have been, was in one that was supported by the average American, one in which the country appreciated what you were doing. You returned to a Nation that was grateful for what you'd done, to a GI Bill that's literally a free ride to a Bachelor's degree.

You didn't go off to a military that started you out at $67.50 a month. You didn't go fight in a war that the public not only didn't care about, but opposed. One where, in some strange twist of logic I'll never understand, the people who fought it got somehow blamed for it. And when they came back, they didn't get a hero's welcome. Or any kind of a welcome. What they got was eggs thrown at them as they left Oakland Army terminal, ruining their pretty Class A uniforms, a uniform that they got rid of as soon as they could, because there were actually a lot of companies that would not hire a Vietnam vet, there were actually lots and lots of girls who would curl their lip in disdain and derision if they found out you were one. In fact, one night after I got back, my High School girl friend's mother, a woman who'd known me for years, pinned an article on her bedroom door, about some really crazy Vietnam vet who went and shot a bunch of people. You didn't try to go to college on a GI Bill that consisted of a check for about $200 every month you were in full time attendance. No tuition paid, no books and supplies allowance no living expenses check, just one check for a couple hundred bucks. And you haven't watched, over the years, as the VA slowly, bit by bit, limited access to health care, making it harder to get, adding fees, etc., all the while claiming they were providing comprehensive health care to vets. So yes, maybe I'm a bit oversensitive about the VA claiming they're doing things they aren't really doing.

But you missed the point, anyway. I don't care that much what they do or don't give anyone. What I DO care about is how they come up with phony "reasons" for things, how they claim they're doing things they aren't (like people getting appointments within a certain timeframe when almost nobody really was).

I'd be a lot less bent out of shape if they were honest about things, if they'd just say things like "we can't do that anymore because we just don't have the money to pay for it". Or that "we have to prioritize things by assigning veterans categories because we don't have the money to take care of everyone", instead of passing things like that as mere administrative procedures, and telling everyone that they're taking good care of all veterans. If they'd say "we'll help veterans defray the cost of getting to the hospital" instead of saying they're giving them reimbursement. THAT's what pushes my buttons, NOT whatever they do or don't actually do. And, Ironically, if they'd be honest about things, and the public really became aware of how their medical funding has fallen so far behind what they really need, they just MIGHT get adequately funded for a change. And by the way, I don't even have a personal dog in this fight. I have all the medical care I need, and will have it until I die, so all the sneaky things they do don't have much affect on me one way or the other. In fact, not even the mileage thing affects me personally because I can just go to a doctor or hospital here and Uncle Sam will pay the bill. But they do affect hundreds of thousands of other veterans. I just hate dishonesty and hypocrisy.

HOTFIRELOVERS wrote:

Did you know Viagra is actually first used for pulmonary arterial hypertension (PAH) . That is its original purpose. It relaxes the arterial wall, leading to decreased pulmonary arterial resistance and pressure. This, in turn, reduces the workload of the right ventricle of the heart and improves symptoms of right-sided heart failure. Its second purpose is for Erctile dysfunction. However, it is also a anti-depressent. Women can use it as well for stress reason for depression. A more recent discovery is high-altitude pulmonary edema AKA High Altitude sickness. I assume it can also be used for deep sea divers. Who come up to fast and possibly for other reason that will slow the heart down. Possibly from turbal velocity when you come down to fast or, in fast jet engines as well..

Here is most likely the reason you may get 4 pills a month. One being that if you injured your back or other nerve endings. That the reverse happens and you can develope heart problems in someone who never had them. Many types of conditions and, End stage Renal failure is the last stage before someone dies. Even though the FDA has approved the drug its risk outway the good. Unless you fall into the the right bracket.

I do see some new breakthroughs with Viagra with helping with AIDS patients...Possibly may help certain types of Cancer patients to destress certain body part.

However the drug is sold illegaly often enough that it is a concern. Its popular with kids and so forth. Often they mix it with other drugs to give a high beyond that of Ecstasy. Mixing to many of the wrong drugs like this and others...can cause death.

I work for a pharmaceutical company but, really I am a avid reader and love medicine and everything in between.

As far as insurance goes. It could be Good Ole OBama and his health care act. It has become very strick on many plans of health insurance. The cost is expensive and not covered under generic brand....but, named brand instead. Making them harder to get. Maybe have dual insurance can help with getting more pills as well. This would cover the cost. If you have medicare and, are disabled. There is an extra plan that cover the cost...called a donut or gap insurance.

I wish for your case it was black and white....but, because there is so much gray. It will be awhile for more testing on the drug. Before they allow it to really be accepted more and more. Lots to still learn and, tons of research to still be studied on the job.

Hope I helped. Wish it was simple but, it is not. I do empathize and really understand that it is not easy and, really sucks as well. I have seen many struggle with this and, it is not fun at all. My heart goes out to you. I hope it does change to help many people out...Not just a few.


HOTFIRE

Yeah, I know. It's why they're careful who they give it to. There's a danger of hypotension if someone using an Alpha blocker for high BP, which is very common, takes it. As for the 4 dose a month VA limit, it wasn't really the original point, I thought looking at it as the VA deciding how much sex vets ought to have would start a bunch of jokes. But it isn't about Obamacare or insurance or anything. The VA isn't a kind of insurance. A veteran either is or isn't, depending on several different things, entitled to medical care with the VA, and if he's entitled to care for some certain thing, and the doctor prescribes a drug, the VA has its own pharmacy, which gives it to him. And ir isn't about possible side effects, or anything like that. The doctor is responsible for deciding what dose, and how many doses, of which drug a specific patient should get. BUt sometimes the VA bureaucracy will put limits on different things. In this case, they've set a limit of 4 dpses of Viagara per month, no matter what the doctor involved might think the patient should have. And the supposed reason is to prevent vets from selling it. I imagine that is a concern to some extent or other, but the real reason is that it's an expensive drug. They do that sometimes, and it irritates me that they won't just be honest and say the don't have the money to give out more than that. Another example is how, although for decades now the medical establishment has looked at alcohol or drug problems as a medical problem, the VA maintains it's not medical, it's "social misconduct". They do that because, if they called it a medical problem, they would, by law, have to treat any vet who developed an alcohol or drug problem while in the service or soon enough afterwards, and it would cost a zillion dollars to do that. The VA does do alcohol and/or drug treatment at a lot of its hospitals, but as long as it's "social misconduct" they aren't obligated to, which makes it possible to limit it to what they think they can afford.

By the way, one thing you didn't think to mention is all the phony Viagara (and Cialis and other stuff) that's sold every single day on the internet, and how dangerous it can be. The counterfeits are so good that even experts can't tell some of them apart short of an actual chemical analysis. They even do all the right packaging, the blister packs, the right labels and logos, everything. The big problem with them is not just that they don't have the actual drug in them, but what some of them do have in them. Things like blue printer ink, gypsum (the stuff in drywall), even poisons, like rat poison. If someone sees erectile dysfunction drugs for sale at a ridiculously cheap price, it's close to a 100% chance that they're fakes, and if you buy them you're not just getting ripped off, you're actually endangering your health and even your life. Generally speaking, be very suspicious of ANY super cheap drug, not just erectile dysfunction ones, that comes from Mexico, China, or any 3rd world country. Unless you can somehow verify that the company selling the stuff is legitimate, you should pass on those "deals".

DABOMB wrote:

Well if they are only authorize it for only 4 times a week lets make it count... Weakly Orgies for Vets... ohh man I like that... probably it would be the only time I would Play my "i am a Vet" card... lol

Unfortunately, it's only 4 doses a month. Or maybe fortunately. If I absolutely had to have that stuff just to get an erection, I'm not sure I could handle 4 times a week without a heart attack or something. But with a lady like yours, I doubt YOU will ever need the stuff.