Another biker was killed today in Provo canyon because of some asshole not paying attention. Another was killed earlier in the week. In our Saturday ride, we had three incidents where non attentive drivers almost took one of us out.
I just ask everyone to keep an eye out for riders. Put your phone down when youre behind the wheel. I also encourage all new riders to take a course so you can handle your bike in bad situations.
Just my two cents.
I just ask everyone to keep an eye out for riders. Put your phone down when youre behind the wheel. I also encourage all new riders to take a course so you can handle your bike in bad situations.
Just my two cents.
Nearly every time we go out there's a close call, yesterday was no different. Someone cutting you off or nearly rear-ending you. You have to have eyes on the back of your head and the sides, all the while trying to concentrate on what's going on in front. Be safe friends!
Basically when you ride you HAVE to assume the people in the big steel boxes aren't paying attention, don't see you, and/or have the mental capacity of the average 4 year old. I ALWAYS ride as if they are out to get me (yeah, like on purpose). Ride defensively or resign yourself to the fact that you're going to be someone's hood ornament because most of the steel box people ARE oblivious. Sad but true.
Wanna see my scars from idiots on cell phones? Rode for 40 years before i had an accident. And then two in 7 years. Cell phones both times...looked right at me...and turned in front of me as if I wasn't there. They had a good excuse tho...they didn't see me. So much for multi-asking..and yes..they were both girls.
Now I ride a trike. Not because I can't ride, or don't enjoy the motorcycle, but because it is different enough, that it is more often seen...
Close calls still happen..just not as often....at least not yet.
Now I ride a trike. Not because I can't ride, or don't enjoy the motorcycle, but because it is different enough, that it is more often seen...
Close calls still happen..just not as often....at least not yet.
Just bought a hi-viz helmet and jackets for myself and Ms. Evil. Definitely catching more people's eye but I still don't trust ANY of those mother fuckers! LOL
EVILDOERS wrote:
Just bought a hi-viz helmet and jackets for myself and Ms. Evil. Definitely catching more people's eye but I still don't trust ANY of those mother fuckers! LOL
Seriously can't trust any of the fuckers out there on the road in their 4 ton assault vehicles. The only way to get home safe is to assume at any second they WILL try to kill you and not be anywhere that can happen.
I know it sounds stupid and fucking paranoid but I truly ride as if each an every one of them is absolutely going to pull out in front of me, turn in front of me or just simply run my ass over. I slow down a little and have hand and foot on the brake as I approach intersections. I "hide" behind other cars or trucks so that if someone jumps their lane they hit them first. I ride a little closer to the breakdown lane and look for escape routes. I've been riding since I was 10 years old and still haven't had my ass run over. Many friends have not been so lucky. I know my day will come but hopefully I'll be a little bit prepared and the damage won't be catastrophic. :-(
EVILDOERS wrote:
I know it sounds stupid and fucking paranoid but I truly ride as if each an every one of them is absolutely going to pull out in front of me, turn in front of me or just simply run my ass over. I slow down a little and have hand and foot on the brake as I approach intersections. I "hide" behind other cars or trucks so that if someone jumps their lane they hit them first. I ride a little closer to the breakdown lane and look for escape routes. I've been riding since I was 10 years old and still haven't had my ass run over. Many friends have not been so lucky. I know my day will come but hopefully I'll be a little bit prepared and the damage won't be catastrophic. :-(
I spent 7 years riding I-5 in SoCal, I know exactly what you're talking about.
EVILDOERS wrote:Smart man!
Just bought a hi-viz helmet and jackets for myself and Ms. Evil. Definitely catching more people's eye but I still don't trust ANY of those mother fuckers! LOL
A friend just got hit by a SUV in ogden just this week he did not make it, the SUV pull out of McDonald's and hit him now I have a funeral to attend RIP Buddy.
people just dont look we always have to drive/ ride like they want to run us over, I alway try to leave myself 2 way out at all times if I can. Love to ride but sometimes I wonder if it is worth the risk to ride, I love life to much but if it my time to go it is my TIME.
people just dont look we always have to drive/ ride like they want to run us over, I alway try to leave myself 2 way out at all times if I can. Love to ride but sometimes I wonder if it is worth the risk to ride, I love life to much but if it my time to go it is my TIME.
please be careful friends, we have a lot of fun rides coming up,
please be careful friends, we have a lot of fun rides coming up,
EVILDOERS wrote:
Basically when you ride you HAVE to assume the people in the big steel boxes aren't paying attention, don't see you, and/or have the mental capacity of the average 4 year old. I ALWAYS ride as if they are out to get me (yeah, like on purpose). Ride defensively or resign yourself to the fact that you're going to be someone's hood ornament because most of the steel box people ARE oblivious. Sad but true.
AMEN!
"This is exactly the reason I haven't succumbed to the desire to purchase a bike."
Yes riding is a risk. Yes many of the steel box people are total fucktards. But to let that stop you from riding is just not an option for me. If I was afraid I'd just ride Sunday mornings. Or stay out of heavy traffic or only ride on roads where the conditions favor easy escape options. But not to ride? Hell, life IS a risk. I figure I can enjoy it (while mitigating the risk as much as possible) or I can hide in a closet. Too many fun things to do in life to let fear of what COULD happen keep you from living it. No offense ANDRAY.
Yes riding is a risk. Yes many of the steel box people are total fucktards. But to let that stop you from riding is just not an option for me. If I was afraid I'd just ride Sunday mornings. Or stay out of heavy traffic or only ride on roads where the conditions favor easy escape options. But not to ride? Hell, life IS a risk. I figure I can enjoy it (while mitigating the risk as much as possible) or I can hide in a closet. Too many fun things to do in life to let fear of what COULD happen keep you from living it. No offense ANDRAY.
EVILDOERS wrote:Have to agree with Mr Evildoer...yep! After 2 very serious accidents..I still ride. But I ride different....no more using the bike for everyday transportation, And we do usually saddleup...and get out of town. Don't ride the city streets near as much as we used to...nope. But, as he said...I don't believe in being scared of of the things I really love. That said...if you REALLY don't enjoy the real passion of riding...you probably should stay on the porch.
"This is exactly the reason I haven't succumbed to the desire to purchase a bike."
Yes riding is a risk. Yes many of the steel box people are total fucktards. But to let that stop you from riding is just not an option for me. If I was afraid I'd just ride Sunday mornings. Or stay out of heavy traffic or only ride on roads where the conditions favor easy escape options. But not to ride? Hell, life IS a risk. I figure I can enjoy it (while mitigating the risk as much as possible) or I can hide in a closet. Too many fun things to do in life to let fear of what COULD happen keep you from living it. No offense ANDRAY.
Diddo d.
there are certainly bad drivers in cars, when I used to ride I was hit by two of them but there is a flip side to that. Every day this spring while I drive I15 home from work I watch riders zig zag in and out of traffic, I saw one guy last week make 9 lane changes in less than a mile. all the moving around increases risk to both rider and the cars around them...relax, enjoy the ride and stay in a lane for more than three seconds folks life is a journey not a destination
UTAH-CPLE-2006 wrote:
there are certainly bad drivers in cars, when I used to ride I was hit by two of them but there is a flip side to that. Every day this spring while I drive I15 home from work I watch riders zig zag in and out of traffic, I saw one guy last week make 9 lane changes in less than a mile. all the moving around increases risk to both rider and the cars around them...relax, enjoy the ride and stay in a lane for more than three seconds folks life is a journey not a destination
Absolutely agree! Boy..I'm an agreeable sort...huh? LOL
Of course you are right UTAH-CPLE. You simply can't ride a bike the same way you drive a car. If you're incapable of demonstrating the extra degree of attention and maturity necessary then you probably should not ride. Riding takes 100% of your attention at least 90% of the time. Small errors when driving a car can quickly become fatal ones on a bike. And I agree on the helmet issue. I know it's a controversial topic for many but I worked in an ER for 4 years and on a rehab unit for 3. Enjoy the wind blowing in your hair because if you go down the chances of becoming a drooling vegetable or worse, an organ donor are greatly increased.
I had a guy in Arlington MA look right at me (full eye contact) as he pulled out right in front of me, up close & personal. I had to do a nose wheeley to keep from having a crash.
I had a double-parked ambulance in Boston pull out before putting on his lights & T-bone me, which sent me sliding up Boylston St. on my back as my bike spun into (& trashed) a truck that was parked 4 lanes away.
I had a car service guy in NYC push me right out of my lane into a very narrow shoulder on the Harlem River Drive because it was his easiest way to squeeze into the left lane. He left me in a tight spot in a debris laden shoulder. I had to kick the passenger side rear-view mirror off of his car & flip him the bird to encourage him to get back away from me & give me room to ride.
Some nitwit cabbie up in the Bronx cut in a little too tight in traffic & pinned my highway bars between his passenger door & a bridge trestle. That nearly wrecked me, but I managed to get out with scraped chrome. He got a small dent, that blended in with the many others that he already had.
I had a truck hit me head-on as he made an illegal left onto Jersey St. in Boston. I saw the sun 3 different times before I hit the ground after going over the top of that truck. Fortunately, I hit legs first & just broke a few bones. A friend of mine took a similar hit from a Ford Taurus on Soldiers Field Road a few weeks later & landed head first. He didn't make it.
When I got to Beth Isreal Hospital after that last one, doctor Hillel Skoff didn't want to bother treating me because "I had been riding a doner cycle & therefore it was my fault that I had gotten hurt & I deserved it".
Not only are some people dangerous to people on bikes because they are ignorant or unobservant, some are genuinely malevolent towards bikers.
Keep your eyes open my friends. Patches of sand in the turns are not the worst danger that we need to watch out for.
I had a double-parked ambulance in Boston pull out before putting on his lights & T-bone me, which sent me sliding up Boylston St. on my back as my bike spun into (& trashed) a truck that was parked 4 lanes away.
I had a car service guy in NYC push me right out of my lane into a very narrow shoulder on the Harlem River Drive because it was his easiest way to squeeze into the left lane. He left me in a tight spot in a debris laden shoulder. I had to kick the passenger side rear-view mirror off of his car & flip him the bird to encourage him to get back away from me & give me room to ride.
Some nitwit cabbie up in the Bronx cut in a little too tight in traffic & pinned my highway bars between his passenger door & a bridge trestle. That nearly wrecked me, but I managed to get out with scraped chrome. He got a small dent, that blended in with the many others that he already had.
I had a truck hit me head-on as he made an illegal left onto Jersey St. in Boston. I saw the sun 3 different times before I hit the ground after going over the top of that truck. Fortunately, I hit legs first & just broke a few bones. A friend of mine took a similar hit from a Ford Taurus on Soldiers Field Road a few weeks later & landed head first. He didn't make it.
When I got to Beth Isreal Hospital after that last one, doctor Hillel Skoff didn't want to bother treating me because "I had been riding a doner cycle & therefore it was my fault that I had gotten hurt & I deserved it".
Not only are some people dangerous to people on bikes because they are ignorant or unobservant, some are genuinely malevolent towards bikers.
Keep your eyes open my friends. Patches of sand in the turns are not the worst danger that we need to watch out for.
KEYNETTE88 wrote:
I agree. Ditto, Ditto... People please watch out for our bikers! and bikers I hope that you already do, But PLEASE WEAR HELMETS ALWAYS!!!!!
I hear this advice a lot. I realize that it comes from the heart & I realize that people are just trying to help. I thank them for wanting to help & I do appreciate that they are trying to take my best interest to heart. I don't fully agree with the perspective though.
Obviously, in the event that you do have a crash, any & all padding that you carry on your body is a good thing. However, experience has taught me that riding without a helmet, or riding with just a shorty lid, does allow me to better hear who is near me & judge how fast they may be approaching. It also gives me better peripheral vision.
I look in my mirrors frequently, but not always. Sometime the sound of a vehicle behind me is the first warning that I have of an impending danger. I honestly believe that I have been able to avoid several accidents over the years, due to having the earliest possible knowledge of the impending danger being near me. I have yet to trash a helmet in a crash. I was wearing a helmet in 90% of the road crashes that I have suffered.
I'm not trying to talk anyone out of wearing helmet. I think that for many people, wearing a helmet is the best choice in most situations. I do not believe that wearing a helmet is always the best choice for all people in all situations. I disagree with mandatory helmet laws. I believe that decision should be left up to the rider, as it is in several states.
Also, wearing a big helmet when riding a bike with no fairing sometimes give me a stiff neck.
Loud pipes save lifes
FWIW, and I'm not necessarily trying to talk anyone INTO wearing a helmet, I went to school with a guy who works for the Snell Foundation (if you don't know what that is you can stop reading this now). The most important part of the helmet (according to him) isn't even the part that protects your noggin but the part that protects your face (obviously I'm talking about full face helmets here). He maintains (with a TON of medical statistics to back him up) that severe facial trauma actually causes more deaths than head trauma. Having seen the aftermath of countless motorcycle accidents I have to believe what he says is true. And personally I see absolutely no difference between mandatory helmet laws and mandatory seat belt laws (also PROVEN to save lives). So pick your poison. Wear one or don't but to me not wearing a helmet is a bit like sky diving without a reserve chute or white water rafting without a helmet and life preserver. The one time you need it and aren't wearing it is probably the last time you will have to worry about it. It's the ONLY protection you have between yourself and some asshole's bumper or windshield. But I guess not wearing one because it gave you a stiff neck makes sense? (I know some great neck and shoulder exercises to help with that btw). My mom's best friend hated wearing seat belts because they wrinkled her dress. Her husband fell asleep driving back from St. George and overcorrected, rolled his truck and she went partially out the window and the cab landed on her. Maybe a fair solution to helmet and seat belt laws would be to sign a waver on your insurance that coverage would be forfeited if you didn't buckle up or put on a helmet? Or alternatively pay much higher premiums for the privilege of not wearing one.
I know this is going to piss some people but since someone else brought up the subject I will add my two cents.
We have an American problem regarding attitudes. I want to be as much an individual as anyone else but there are some limits. That is simply the problem with the attitude that we object to have the government tell us what to wear or what to do. Every day you see this and yet we continue to ignore it. After all, what is a stop sign or a speed limit?
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We have an American problem regarding attitudes. I want to be as much an individual as anyone else but there are some limits. That is simply the problem with the attitude that we object to have the government tell us what to wear or what to do. Every day you see this and yet we continue to ignore it. After all, what is a stop sign or a speed limit?
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[quote=SUGARSANDSPICE]I know this is going to piss some people but since someone else brought up the subject I will add my two cents.
We have an American problem regarding attitudes. I want to be as much an individual as anyone else but there are some limits. That is simply the problem with the attitude that we object to have the government tell us what to wear or what to do. Every day you see this and yet we continue to ignore it. After all, what is a stop sign or a speed limit?
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We have an American problem regarding attitudes. I want to be as much an individual as anyone else but there are some limits. That is simply the problem with the attitude that we object to have the government tell us what to wear or what to do. Every day you see this and yet we continue to ignore it. After all, what is a stop sign or a speed limit?
I can
I was just watching news, a man and women hit on what looked like a newer gold wing in draper, wow, we need to be careful.
Ya'll have convinced me to sell hubby's bike and be sure that the only "riding" he does is in our bed! And yes, I'm aware if I actually attempt to do that, he'll claim that'd be great except that the Harley has a better ride. Then I'll claim the same when choosing between him and my realistic vibe. Then we'll have to prove our claims. and then .... where the hell was I going with this thought, anyway??! 
I do find some of the rationales folks used here for partaking of unsafe behaviors to be amusing though. No helmets (so they can hear better?) coupled with mufflers so loud they'd not hear a freight train a-cummin'. Before I get flamed to death, I know what ya'll are saying--my hubby has his own horror stories from careless car drivers.
I do find some of the rationales folks used here for partaking of unsafe behaviors to be amusing though. No helmets (so they can hear better?) coupled with mufflers so loud they'd not hear a freight train a-cummin'. Before I get flamed to death, I know what ya'll are saying--my hubby has his own horror stories from careless car drivers.
Well Woamomma69 that assumes that I am inexperienced. My brother survived a head on with a jeep because he was wearing a helmet. If he had not had the mental agility to jump up he would not be here today. The stress cracked the helmet but he survived and his body healed. So it often depends whether you hit the road or the vehicle and what you are or are not wearing. A modern full helmet is still the best way as far as I am concerned.
What the hell are you talking about. Paying all cost for not wearing a helmet when involved in a crash. You are the biggest idiot I know. So you are saying a car pulling in front of us or changing lanes on us and slamming into us wouldn't happen if we were wearing a helmet. We have to pay for their mistakes? Get over yourself. I have had three friends die in the last year cause of idiots. And guess what they were ALL WEARING HELMETS. I have been In 2 accidents on mine and was not wearing a helmet but never hit my head but my hospital stay should have been paid by me cause I wasn't wearing it even though they caused it.
Have you ever read the small print on a helmet before. If not read it. It says that they are only rated up to 45 mph impact speed. After that all it does is make it easier for the crew to clean you up.
Oh and that comment about us idiots riding aggressive. If we didn't we would be dead in a week. We don't ride like we own the road we just ride so you will look for us.
A helmet is NOT guaranteed to save your life just like a seatbelt is not guaranteed to save it either. The only thing out of everything said that I agree with is child on the back with no helmet. But that's why it is illegal. My daughter rides with me but she has a helmet and proper clothes.
Don't get me wrong. There are times that a helmet or seatbelt will save you life I am not denying it at all. But it is a choice we are given. I doesn't hurt you any if you see a guy riding his bike on the freeway with no helmet. I just don't see the point in complaining about it unless im missing something.
Have you ever read the small print on a helmet before. If not read it. It says that they are only rated up to 45 mph impact speed. After that all it does is make it easier for the crew to clean you up.
Oh and that comment about us idiots riding aggressive. If we didn't we would be dead in a week. We don't ride like we own the road we just ride so you will look for us.
A helmet is NOT guaranteed to save your life just like a seatbelt is not guaranteed to save it either. The only thing out of everything said that I agree with is child on the back with no helmet. But that's why it is illegal. My daughter rides with me but she has a helmet and proper clothes.
Don't get me wrong. There are times that a helmet or seatbelt will save you life I am not denying it at all. But it is a choice we are given. I doesn't hurt you any if you see a guy riding his bike on the freeway with no helmet. I just don't see the point in complaining about it unless im missing something.
Wow, I don't even want to react to that.... Its my choice. That's why abate fought and defeated the state trying to pass the helmet law this year.
MRCOWBOYOPIE85 wrote:Amen Opie!Head injuries go down..spinal injuries go up...Folks tend to ride MORE aggressively with a helmet..it provides a very false sense of invincability...
What the hell are you talking about. Paying all cost for not wearing a helmet when involved in a crash. You are the biggest idiot I know. So you are saying a car pulling in front of us or changing lanes on us and slamming into us wouldn't happen if we were wearing a helmet. We have to pay for their mistakes? Get over yourself. I have had three friends die in the last year cause of idiots. And guess what they were ALL WEARING HELMETS. I have been In 2 accidents on mine and was not wearing a helmet but never hit my head but my hospital stay should have been paid by me cause I wasn't wearing it even though they caused it.
Have you ever read the small print on a helmet before. If not read it. It says that they are only rated up to 45 mph impact speed. After that all it does is make it easier for the crew to clean you up.
Oh and that comment about us idiots riding aggressive. If we didn't we would be dead in a week. We don't ride like we own the road we just ride so you will look for us.
A helmet is NOT guaranteed to save your life just like a seatbelt is not guaranteed to save it either. The only thing out of everything said that I agree with is child on the back with no helmet. But that's why it is illegal. My daughter rides with me but she has a helmet and proper clothes.
Don't get me wrong. There are times that a helmet or seatbelt will save you life I am not denying it at all. But it is a choice we are given. I doesn't hurt you any if you see a guy riding his bike on the freeway with no helmet. I just don't see the point in complaining about it unless im missing something.
Have you folks actually looked at the stats for states that have REPEALED helmet laws? When you do..don't just look at the number of deaths....look at the number of deaths compaired to the number of riders. No helmet laws almost always have in increase in the number of riders! Most often, the results show the PERCENTAGE of deaths actually go down. How do you think Abate manages to get the laws repealed? I want my choice of wearing it or not! Just as you have yours!
And as for no helmet..no insurance payout??? Sorry..as Opie said..that's just ignorant..sorry.
You want to make a big dent in the death toll on the highway? Let's ban drivers cell phones...hands free or not...you know..the ones the FACTS and STUDIES have now proven are more dangerous than drunk drivers? Let's prosecute those offenders as aggressively as the drunks! And while we are at it? Let's shut that fuckin' computer off in the patrol cruiser when he's driving! Yes..I've been run out of my lane by THEM, too!
Well I said I would piss of some folks and that is Ok with me. There are two sides to every argument. Laws get made and changed because of political pressure from one group or another and have little to do with statistics or real numbers. Look at guns. We kill a lot more people with cars than guns but no one is dumb enough to believe that we will get rid of cars. No, I am not suggesting that we get rid of guns so don
Now that I have signal again, I wont be misinterpreted.
Im gettin tired of these fuckin essays from people that think they know whats best for the rest of us. Utah is a helmet choice state as long as youre over 18. Ill fight long and hard to keep it that way. I dont want some goddamned whineass professor telling me what I should or should not do! Its my life, I carry the insurance with plenty of coverage, and a dnr order.
Most of is experienced riders know how to handle our bikes. Its the dumb fucks in the cars that are killing most of the riders cuz they just dont pay attention. Thats why I get aggressive with drivers that cut me off. Fuck em, I'll put a boot in their door, or a steelie thru the window, then if they pull over, game fuckin on! They deserve every fuckin bit of it. If ya dont believe it, try it. Ill be the one in your stupid fuckin face!
Im gettin tired of these fuckin essays from people that think they know whats best for the rest of us. Utah is a helmet choice state as long as youre over 18. Ill fight long and hard to keep it that way. I dont want some goddamned whineass professor telling me what I should or should not do! Its my life, I carry the insurance with plenty of coverage, and a dnr order.
Most of is experienced riders know how to handle our bikes. Its the dumb fucks in the cars that are killing most of the riders cuz they just dont pay attention. Thats why I get aggressive with drivers that cut me off. Fuck em, I'll put a boot in their door, or a steelie thru the window, then if they pull over, game fuckin on! They deserve every fuckin bit of it. If ya dont believe it, try it. Ill be the one in your stupid fuckin face!
Gotta disagree. Theres nothing better than cruising the highways on two wheels.
SUGARSANDSPICE wrote:
The simple fact is that seat belt and helmet laws save lives. That is a proven fact. It can be argued that some lives are lost due to the use of safety equipment but percentage wise it is not much of an argument and probably in the 1 in the ten thousand range. That is no reason to think that we are immune to the 9,999 other accidents.
To the best of my knowledge, no data has ever been collected on the number of accidents that have been prevented by the extra awareness afforded from not wearing a helmet, so I'm not sure that I can fully agree that your assertion is a "proven fact". It certainly is the common wisdom. It certainly is what we are told to believe by those in authority. But, I am not fully confident in the science behind the numbers on this one.
Again, I am not trying to talk others out of wearing helmets. I just think that the decision should be left to the individual, at least in the case of individuals that have reached the age of majority.
Conversely, I agree with laws that require riders to wear eye protection. If you loose control of the bike because you get a bug in your eye, then you are a hazard to everyone else on the road & society has the right to protect itself against that hazard. A helmet only has the potential to protect the one individual that wears it. The helmet can not protect any other members of society. That is the difference between a helmet law & an eye protection law. Seat belts are like helmets that way.
If you find any recorded data on the number of people that have been saved by not wearing a seat belt, I'd love to see it. I personally know of 2 such people. I don't personally know 2 x 9,999 people that have been killed by not wearing them, so your numbers conflict with my personal experience. I'm not saying that your numbers are necessarily wrong, I'm just saying that I'd like to check them since they do not agree with what I have seen in my lifetime.
FUCKADOODLEDOO wrote:
I think the original idea was not about helmets it was just about everyone being safe whether your in a car or on a bike and those in cars should maybe pay a little more attention.
Gina
Thanks Gina! We all knew it was going to go here, tho, as soon as someone mentioned a helmet..lol
We aren't here to preach, we just want people to have fun when they ride, if you decide to wear a helmet or not wear one is up to you, just have fun and DRIVERS PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE OF US WHO RIDE
BAN CELL PHONES USE (of ANY kind) IN VEHICLES!
I can probably put money on that every person that cuts off or runs a biker off the road is a person that thinks that a helmet should be worn by all and is for the helmet law. lol
MRCOWBOYOPIE85 wrote:
I can probably put money on that every person that cuts off or runs a biker off the road is a person that thinks that a helmet should be worn by all and is for the helmet law. lol
Im not touchin that one, lol. Tryin to keep my blood pressure in check.
EVILDOERS wrote:
BAN CELL PHONES USE (of ANY kind) IN VEHICLES!
AMEN!!
We just take our hang glider everywhere now. Less traffic and easier to park. But we still wear helmets. Although the helmets DO get in the way of hearing rogue eagles who are trying to take us out.
"I'll submit to refraining from using my cell phone (with ear mike) on one condition: cops can't use any electronic devices either. The sheer joy of hearing them whine about not being able to type on their laptops would be worth it."
Meh. Don't care if they're on their laptops. Just wish they'd stop masturbating.
Meh. Don't care if they're on their laptops. Just wish they'd stop masturbating.
EVILDOERS wrote:
Basically when you ride you HAVE to assume the people in the big steel boxes aren't paying attention, don't see you, and/or have the mental capacity of the average 4 year old. I ALWAYS ride as if they are out to get me (yeah, like on purpose). Ride defensively or resign yourself to the fact that you're going to be someone's hood ornament because most of the steel box people ARE oblivious. Sad but true.
I liked your "steel boxes" comment on the bikes and cars thread. I never feel like that attitude gets really driven home well enough for new riders. That "I have right of way" attitude prevails and then folks die.
Unfortunately it's the same with a lot of bicycle riders as well. Yeah you "(had) the right of way". You're fucking DEAD now but you sure the hell had the right of way.
This is what I drive bitches! You won't be a "hood ornament", you'll be a bug on my lower bumper with a handlebar stickin out of it's ass! It's almost 9 feet tall at the cab. Notice the passenger car in front of it??? Yes it helps make up for a tiny penis!!!
We also ride. We also understand people are scatterbrained, and make mistakes. That's the chance we take! Helmet, no helmet, I don't really give a shit. It's gonna help you in a low-speed crash around town, but on the highway or freeway, you're probably fucked...which is ironic because that's when I usually wear my helmet.
That's the chance we take with people like...ME!!! And other fucking idiots, because they haven't developed a "perfect" pill yet. It's a new era for all of us. We all depend on those goddam cell phones, cd's, lipstick, and mirrors on the driver's sun visor!!!
We expect to be seen, and think that life should "yield" to us when we ride, but it doesn't work that way! We are truly harder to see, especially by drivers that don't ride and know what to always look for. That is unfortunately our problem...not their's...they have soccer practice and the hot chick at work to talk about. C'mon that's critical shit right there!
It's never gonna end, and we have to watch the bigger shit on the road at all times, or just keep our bikes in the back yard and shine-em-up! If you wanna be a pussy and cry about it, then stay on the porch! If you aren't livin' on the edge, you're takin' up too much space anyway!
I guess just be careful, have fun, do the best that you can to be a decent fucking human being, never try to hurt someone else, and when you think you "almost got taken out", I don't think anyone meant to hurt you or wreck you,,,but maybe they lost focus, got involved in life, looked down for just a second, or made a stupid mistake, JUST LIKE I'M SURE I HAVE, and it was a "close call" or worse. Sucks! But we all take our life in our hands the moment we step out the door no matter what.
BTW, I've lost 2 close friends, a father-in-law, almost one of my sons, and twice I should have died...all on a bike. Ya think I quit??? NEVER!!! IRATE!!!...I'll Ride Always Til' The End.
So let's run with the Big Dawgs, or stay on the porch with the Shitzu's.
JOHNNY-THE-ROCK
We also ride. We also understand people are scatterbrained, and make mistakes. That's the chance we take! Helmet, no helmet, I don't really give a shit. It's gonna help you in a low-speed crash around town, but on the highway or freeway, you're probably fucked...which is ironic because that's when I usually wear my helmet.
That's the chance we take with people like...ME!!! And other fucking idiots, because they haven't developed a "perfect" pill yet. It's a new era for all of us. We all depend on those goddam cell phones, cd's, lipstick, and mirrors on the driver's sun visor!!!
We expect to be seen, and think that life should "yield" to us when we ride, but it doesn't work that way! We are truly harder to see, especially by drivers that don't ride and know what to always look for. That is unfortunately our problem...not their's...they have soccer practice and the hot chick at work to talk about. C'mon that's critical shit right there!
It's never gonna end, and we have to watch the bigger shit on the road at all times, or just keep our bikes in the back yard and shine-em-up! If you wanna be a pussy and cry about it, then stay on the porch! If you aren't livin' on the edge, you're takin' up too much space anyway!
I guess just be careful, have fun, do the best that you can to be a decent fucking human being, never try to hurt someone else, and when you think you "almost got taken out", I don't think anyone meant to hurt you or wreck you,,,but maybe they lost focus, got involved in life, looked down for just a second, or made a stupid mistake, JUST LIKE I'M SURE I HAVE, and it was a "close call" or worse. Sucks! But we all take our life in our hands the moment we step out the door no matter what.
BTW, I've lost 2 close friends, a father-in-law, almost one of my sons, and twice I should have died...all on a bike. Ya think I quit??? NEVER!!! IRATE!!!...I'll Ride Always Til' The End.
So let's run with the Big Dawgs, or stay on the porch with the Shitzu's.
JOHNNY-THE-ROCK
To better address the tax payer cost issue I submit the following information:
Research has shown that when a state repeals its helmet law or opts for less restrictive requirements, helmet use decreases and motorcycle-related deaths, injuries, and costs increase. In 2000, for example, Florida changed its universal helmet law to a partial helmet law that covered only riders aged <21 years and those with <$10,000 in medical insurance coverage. During the 2 years after the law was changed, the motorcyclist death rate per 10,000 registered motorcycles in Florida increased by 21%, deaths among motorcycle riders aged <21 years nearly tripled, and hospital admissions of motorcyclists with injuries to the head, brain, and skull increased by 82% (7). In addition, gross costs charged to hospital-admitted motorcyclists with head, brain, or skull injuries in Florida more than doubled, from $21 million to $50 million (7). Studies that have examined nonfatal injury outcomes among motorcyclists who wore helmets and those who did not have found that hospitalized riders who had not worn helmets incurred higher health-care costs (8,9). Riders who do not wear helmets are more likely to suffer traumatic brain injuries, and median hospital charges for those with traumatic brain injuries are 13 times higher than for those without such injuries (8). Riders who do not wear helmets also are less likely to have health insurance, and therefore are more likely to require publicly funded health care (9).
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6123a1.htm
The written opinion of the Federal Court of Massachusetts, 1972 Affirmed by the United States Supreme Court is as follows.
Research has shown that when a state repeals its helmet law or opts for less restrictive requirements, helmet use decreases and motorcycle-related deaths, injuries, and costs increase. In 2000, for example, Florida changed its universal helmet law to a partial helmet law that covered only riders aged <21 years and those with <$10,000 in medical insurance coverage. During the 2 years after the law was changed, the motorcyclist death rate per 10,000 registered motorcycles in Florida increased by 21%, deaths among motorcycle riders aged <21 years nearly tripled, and hospital admissions of motorcyclists with injuries to the head, brain, and skull increased by 82% (7). In addition, gross costs charged to hospital-admitted motorcyclists with head, brain, or skull injuries in Florida more than doubled, from $21 million to $50 million (7). Studies that have examined nonfatal injury outcomes among motorcyclists who wore helmets and those who did not have found that hospitalized riders who had not worn helmets incurred higher health-care costs (8,9). Riders who do not wear helmets are more likely to suffer traumatic brain injuries, and median hospital charges for those with traumatic brain injuries are 13 times higher than for those without such injuries (8). Riders who do not wear helmets also are less likely to have health insurance, and therefore are more likely to require publicly funded health care (9).
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6123a1.htm
The written opinion of the Federal Court of Massachusetts, 1972 Affirmed by the United States Supreme Court is as follows.
Some interisting stats:
Between 2001 and 2008, more than 34,000 motorcyclists were killed and an estimated 1,222,000 persons were treated in a U.S. emergency department (ED) for a non-fatal motorcycle-related injury. The highest death and injury rates are among 20-24 year-olds, followed by 25-29 year-olds. Motorcyclist death rates increased by 55% from 2001 to 2008 (1.12 per 100,000 persons in 2001 to 1.74 per 100,000 persons in 2008). The number of nonfatal motorcyclist injuries that were treated in emergency departments also increased, from nearly 120,000 injuries in 2001 to about 175,000 in 2008. More than half of all nonfatal injuries treated in emergency departments were to the leg/foot (30%) or head/neck (22%).
Motorcyclists are 35 times more likely to experience a deadly accident on the road than those in passenger cars. 54% of all fatal motorcycle accidents involve another vehicle while 46% do not. In 24% of all fatal motorcycle accidents the cyclist has been drinking. In motorcycle deaths that involve only the motorcyclist 48 percent are speeding and 42 percent have blood alcohol concentrations of 0.08 percent or higher.
It is often assumed that the majority of motorcycle deaths are on high speed roads such as the interstate. Not true. The number of fatal accidents while on the Interstate or Divided Highway is about 12%. Most fatalities take place on city streets. The broadside is most common fatal accident involving another vehicle and the motorcycle. 42 percent of two-vehicle fatal motorcycle crashes involve a vehicle turning left while the motorcycle was going straight, passing, or overtaking the vehicle.
Forty-one percent of motorcycle operators and 50% of motorcycle passengers who died in 2010 were not wearing a helmet. Head injury is the leading cause of death in all motorcycle crashes and it is estimated that helmets reduce the likelihood of a crash fatality by 37 percent.
The majority of people who die in crashes are riding sport motorcycles with mid-size engines designed to maximize speed and agility. Even though all partial helmet laws apply to minors, 60% of fatally injured minors were unhelmeted in partial helmet law states, compared to 22% in universal helmet laws states from 2008
Between 2001 and 2008, more than 34,000 motorcyclists were killed and an estimated 1,222,000 persons were treated in a U.S. emergency department (ED) for a non-fatal motorcycle-related injury. The highest death and injury rates are among 20-24 year-olds, followed by 25-29 year-olds. Motorcyclist death rates increased by 55% from 2001 to 2008 (1.12 per 100,000 persons in 2001 to 1.74 per 100,000 persons in 2008). The number of nonfatal motorcyclist injuries that were treated in emergency departments also increased, from nearly 120,000 injuries in 2001 to about 175,000 in 2008. More than half of all nonfatal injuries treated in emergency departments were to the leg/foot (30%) or head/neck (22%).
Motorcyclists are 35 times more likely to experience a deadly accident on the road than those in passenger cars. 54% of all fatal motorcycle accidents involve another vehicle while 46% do not. In 24% of all fatal motorcycle accidents the cyclist has been drinking. In motorcycle deaths that involve only the motorcyclist 48 percent are speeding and 42 percent have blood alcohol concentrations of 0.08 percent or higher.
It is often assumed that the majority of motorcycle deaths are on high speed roads such as the interstate. Not true. The number of fatal accidents while on the Interstate or Divided Highway is about 12%. Most fatalities take place on city streets. The broadside is most common fatal accident involving another vehicle and the motorcycle. 42 percent of two-vehicle fatal motorcycle crashes involve a vehicle turning left while the motorcycle was going straight, passing, or overtaking the vehicle.
Forty-one percent of motorcycle operators and 50% of motorcycle passengers who died in 2010 were not wearing a helmet. Head injury is the leading cause of death in all motorcycle crashes and it is estimated that helmets reduce the likelihood of a crash fatality by 37 percent.
The majority of people who die in crashes are riding sport motorcycles with mid-size engines designed to maximize speed and agility. Even though all partial helmet laws apply to minors, 60% of fatally injured minors were unhelmeted in partial helmet law states, compared to 22% in universal helmet laws states from 2008
FUCKADOODLEDOO wrote:And we love you back babies!!! We just wanna take care of each other and make this miserable son-of-a-bitch a little easier if we can. We cum in piece!!!
I always pull over if I need to txt but it has to be an emergency if not it waits til I get to where I'm going.I have a jeep and ran over my lil rukkus moped and seen what kind of damage it did to that and all I was doing was backing out so when driving I'm mindful of everyone around me bikes and smaller vehicles. ROCK love the truck.
Gina
Johnny & Denise
@sugars&spice
Now we've talked about this dammit!!!
Why do you always have to come at us like Socrates!!!???
Just a little bit of your brilliant input would be amazing!!!
But no! Hell no!!! You have to go off like that all the fucking time???!!!
I love ya man, but tone it down just a bit, and chances are, we're gonna read it!!!
When you go off on your tangent's, we all tend to just skip over it.
We had this talk brother...you want our attention??? Keep it short!!!
That's how we all tend to run this som-bitch in our minds while reading advise!
Peace!!!
Now we've talked about this dammit!!!
Why do you always have to come at us like Socrates!!!???
Just a little bit of your brilliant input would be amazing!!!
But no! Hell no!!! You have to go off like that all the fucking time???!!!
I love ya man, but tone it down just a bit, and chances are, we're gonna read it!!!
When you go off on your tangent's, we all tend to just skip over it.
We had this talk brother...you want our attention??? Keep it short!!!
That's how we all tend to run this som-bitch in our minds while reading advise!
Peace!!!
PebbleRock; Yep. Thanks for your concern. Nice truck by the way. You are right and it would be nice if I could. I know I run off at the mouth from time to time. But there are two sides to every story and too many peeps are afraid to ruffle feathers and write opposing someone
Gotta respond spice, it has nothing to do with how good a rider I think I am, it all boils down to respect on the road. I'll admit that there are some people on bikes that have no business being on one. But the same holds true for cars too. But becoming a better rider increases the odds of escaping an accident. Lord knows we cant avoid everything, as I'm sure a few of us can attest to, but knowing what to do when it happens definitely increases my odds of surviving.
As far as helets go, I simply refuse to wear one unless I'm in a state that requires them. 1: they wont help me survive a crash, just makes it possible for an open casket. 2: a full face helmet limits your perphial vision, and also your hearing, both if which you need to ride. Half helmets create too much noise.
I ride because I enjoy it. I know and accept the risk involved. Some people are just recreational riders, while others are more hardcore. To each their own. But this is a country of rights and freedoms and thats why I will support Abate in their fight for bikers rights. To try and force your beliefs on others is wrong and especially in this community, everyone should know it.
As far as helets go, I simply refuse to wear one unless I'm in a state that requires them. 1: they wont help me survive a crash, just makes it possible for an open casket. 2: a full face helmet limits your perphial vision, and also your hearing, both if which you need to ride. Half helmets create too much noise.
I ride because I enjoy it. I know and accept the risk involved. Some people are just recreational riders, while others are more hardcore. To each their own. But this is a country of rights and freedoms and thats why I will support Abate in their fight for bikers rights. To try and force your beliefs on others is wrong and especially in this community, everyone should know it.
WOW,
Care to cite any references for your assertion that wearing a helmet won't help you survive a crash? I don't have a problem with you not wearing a helmet but stating that not wearing one doesn't increase survival rates among riders is flat out wrong.
Care to cite any references for your assertion that wearing a helmet won't help you survive a crash? I don't have a problem with you not wearing a helmet but stating that not wearing one doesn't increase survival rates among riders is flat out wrong.
I love to ride. For those that do know me know I do it every day. Three times have I cheated death due to the actions of others. Yet when I get atop my machine, it is still heaven. There is not an idiot driver out there that will take away from the feeling of freedom from the ride. Stay safe out there, keep on sming..
I think there was 5 or 6 bike accidents last week, none were the bikers fault. Just saying...
I think it is important to hear both sides of any discussion and let the listener make their own judgment. We all agree that there are too many accidents and deaths no matter who is to blame.
I am not trying to force my beliefs on anyone and do not expect you or anyone else to change what you or they believe. As it is your right to state that helmetless is the way to ride it is my right to disagree. It is as simple as that and it is acceptable to disagree. That is what democracy should be about.
I am not trying to force my beliefs on anyone and do not expect you or anyone else to change what you or they believe. As it is your right to state that helmetless is the way to ride it is my right to disagree. It is as simple as that and it is acceptable to disagree. That is what democracy should be about.
[quote=SUGARSANDSPICE]I know this is going to piss some people but since someone else brought up the subject I will add my two cents.
However all this being said, I would agree that the law should be modified. Those bikers found alive after an accident and not wearing a helmet should never be able to collect monetary assistance from the rest of us. No helmet! That should be your choice. [i] But you should be forced to pay all costs involved in your care; fire, police, medical etc. and I don
However all this being said, I would agree that the law should be modified. Those bikers found alive after an accident and not wearing a helmet should never be able to collect monetary assistance from the rest of us. No helmet! That should be your choice. [i] But you should be forced to pay all costs involved in your care; fire, police, medical etc. and I don
There are a lot of pros and cons posted but does any body realize that a certified DOT helmet is only rated for up to a 5 mile an hour impact?????
Something that isn't publicized.
Keep an eye out for everything going on around you weather on 2 wheels or in a cage! Keep the rubber side down.
Something that isn't publicized.
Keep an eye out for everything going on around you weather on 2 wheels or in a cage! Keep the rubber side down.
That's why Ms. Evil and I ALWAYS buy and wear only Snell certified helmets. And we buy new ones every five years or so even if the helmets have never had any damage (dropped or whatever). The Snell standards are MUCH higher than DOT and they get more stringent as helmet technology improves. Whenever we hear about a motorcycle fatality on the news the first question we ask is "Was he/she wearing a helmet?" (often reported) and the second is "Was the helmet Snell certified?" (never reported but it would invaluable if the reporting law enforcement agency would do so).
I think it is important to hear both sides of any discussion and let the listener make their own judgment. We all agree that there are too many accidents and deaths no matter who is to blame.
I am not trying to force my beliefs on anyone and do not expect you or anyone else to change what you or they believe. As it is your right to state that helmetless is the way to ride it is my right to disagree. It is as simple as that and it is acceptable to disagree. That is what democracy should be about.
I am not trying to force my beliefs on anyone and do not expect you or anyone else to change what you or they believe. As it is your right to state that helmetless is the way to ride it is my right to disagree. It is as simple as that and it is acceptable to disagree. That is what democracy should be about.
EVILDOERS wrote:
. The Snell standards are MUCH higher than DOT
I read somewhere that DOT hasn't actually certified any new helmets since the '70's. I never confirmed that as fact, but I did read it in a bike magazine several years ago.
The DOT sticker is a joke. You can tap on the cheap DOT helmets & tell that there is almost nothing to them. The Snell sticker does at least stand for something empirical that can be traced to a reliable set of worthwhile standards.
Who are you and what have you done with DELICOUS? Could someone please go check on DELICIOUS. I think he's been kidnapped and is being forced to write forum responses that are neither sacrcastic, humorous nor pithy. Yeah I'm betting he's been taken hostage by a group of rogue orthodox lesbian clog dancers. No doubt they are forcibly injecting him with all sorts of experimental hormones and making him watch endless videos of their recent clog dancing tour of Sub-Saharan Africa.
I ALMOST said Irish clogging lesbians!
Is that near the funnel cake kiosk at the swap meet?
Ok, I'll wear a helmet.
I was 4 months prego. Coming back from bear lake on the back of my hubbys bike. This fucker new we where their next to him it was a no passing lain but the fucker still passed us and as he did he hit my leg with his car looked at my hubby and laughed and keeped on driving never stopped never said sorry and totally new what he was doing. So I do belive that there are some people out there that do not give a fuck and can see and hear a bike but still run us off the roads. So for people to say that the person in the car can't see or hear us is dumb. That is why my hubbys bike is loud so you can hear him... I don't want to piss anyone off but start looking for bikers I back up the bikers 100%.
BTW, we live in a Republic not a Democracy.
Another brother hit today. Rear ended as traffic slowed down on I-15 northbound near Lehi. Lifeflighted to hospital in critical condition. Was wearing a helmet.
Rider rear ended
Rider rear ended
Here's another one. Luckily the rider was wearing protective gear. Unfortunately his impromptu passenger wasn't. LOL
Deer Mounts Moving Motorcycle
Deer Mounts Moving Motorcycle
FUCKADOODLEDOO wrote:
Its all about personal choice for sure. Its like if some unarmed person gets shot would peeps say well if he would've had a gun he wouldn't have gotten shot? Gina
Probably and if he was probably someone would claim the reverse.
A couple of years ago I had a modulator installed on my GoldWing. The GoldWing has dual front headlights. The modulator makes them flash opposite of each other. When you have it turned on (only available during daylight, a sensor disables it when the sun goes down) it makes it pretty hard for someone not to notice you from the front. You will also not be able to make a single ride without having a number of people pull over and let you go by thinking you are a cop pulling them over.
GOLDENGIRL wrote:
A couple of years ago I had a modulator installed on my GoldWing. The GoldWing has dual front headlights. The modulator makes them flash opposite of each other. When you have it turned on (only available during daylight, a sensor disables it when the sun goes down) it makes it pretty hard for someone not to notice you from the front. You will also not be able to make a single ride without having a number of people pull over and let you go by thinking you are a cop pulling them over.
I like that idea. Cant have too many lights and modulating ones sound good.
Wow, I thought anyone who had been riding for any length of time would already have one installed on their bike. They aren't that expensive and are easy to install. And yes sometimes little old ladies think you're a cop. LOL Brake light modulators are great too. Might have saved that guy down in Lehi from getting rear ended yesterday. I'd say modulators easily double your visibility in any given situation. Here's a great place to order them online.
Modulators
Modulators
I'll have to check on whether modulators are legal but I like the thought of them. I have my Harley lit up like Griswold's house at Christmas.
Yes, 100% legal. No question.
I wish I could install one. I have a HID light and you cant modulate the or it will ruin it. But it is 3 million candle power so they can see me anyways.
(b) The provisions of Subsection (1)(a) do not apply to head lamps, spot lamps, auxiliary lamps, flashing turn signals, hazard warning lamps, and school bus warning lamps.
Have had them on my bikes for years. Never had an issue when I've been pulled over or with safety inspection.
Headlight modulators legal?
Headlight modulators legal?
Have had them on my bikes for years. Never had an issue when I've been pulled over or with safety inspection.
Headlight modulators legal?
Headlight modulators legal?
As far as the HID light. Many bikes now have two headlights and a few of the guys I ride with put a regular light/bulb on the high beam side and modulate that since they're only for daylight use. I saw one modulating a Harley with an LED headlight the other day. Looked pretty cool. Don't forget the modulated taillights either. Gives the tards in the steel boxes something to stare at as they rear end you. Had a guy cut me off a couple of days ago. Luckily I anticipated it and slowed way down as he was sort of weaving (probably texting). I pulled into Maverik after he did and chewed him out a bit. He said "I never saw you, dude." I said, "So you didn't see my flashing high beam headlight, my hi-viz green helmet and jacket and you didn't hear me toot my horn (I also have an aftermarket Freeway Blaster horn, highly recommended)?" I got my revenge a couple of hours later as I pulled into Smith's in front of a lady who was taking her sweet time. She never got within 50 feet of me but she took the time to tell me I could have caused a wreck. I told her I didn't see her. LMAO!
SuperBrightLed.com sells brake flashers for $9. I put one on the motor home. And they are available elsewhere like amazon at $40 that are a bit fancier that is 12 volt and handles 10 Amps.
Some head lamp kits run just under $200 and some I found just under $100
Evil is 100% correct.
(b) The provisions of Subsection (1)(a) do not apply to head lamps, spot lamps, auxiliary lamps, flashing turn signals, hazard warning lamps, and school bus warning lamps.
As it says, The provisions DO NOT APPLY to head lamps. You don
Some head lamp kits run just under $200 and some I found just under $100
Evil is 100% correct.
(b) The provisions of Subsection (1)(a) do not apply to head lamps, spot lamps, auxiliary lamps, flashing turn signals, hazard warning lamps, and school bus warning lamps.
As it says, The provisions DO NOT APPLY to head lamps. You don
SUGAR is spot on about UHP (or any other cop for that matter) not necessarily knowing the law. Here's a post by a guy who was pulled over in 2003 and his experience. Actually had to go to court and prove to the judge (who was ignorant as well) that modulators are 100% legal in all 50 states.
Modulator ticket
Modulator ticket
Btw, you can also get little LED brake light modulators that are wireless and connect to your regular brake light and mount on the back of your...wait for it...helmet! LOL
TNT4FUN2 wrote:
BTW, we live in a Republic not a Democracy.
This country was a Constitutional Republic. What we have now, more closely resembles an oligarchy or a kleptocracy in my opinion.
SUGARSANDSPICE wrote:Good grief SUGAR can you stop it just for a minute??? I love ya man, but I wanna punch you in the fuckin face, have you punch me back, and then knock your ass out
(b) The provisions of Subsection (1)(a) do not apply to head lamps, spot lamps, auxiliary lamps, flashing turn signals, hazard warning lamps, and school bus warning lamps.
SUGARSANDSPICE wrote:Good hell SUGAR! Are you serious??? We've talked about this...I wanna punch you in the fucking face sometimes, have you punch me back, and then knock you the hell out!!! Why do you have to be so specific and argumentative? Does it turn you on that you have more time than most of us to look up things and throw your education down my B-hole??? BTW I love ya man and you know that, but "dammit Jim I work in a highly classified facility in Northern Utah...I'm not a doctor"!!! Or something like that. But I do work in a highly classified facility. LOL. Simmer down "Einstein", or do we need to get our weiner's out and sword fight??? "CUZ I USE THE FORCE"!!!
(b) The provisions of Subsection (1)(a) do not apply to head lamps, spot lamps, auxiliary lamps, flashing turn signals, hazard warning lamps, and school bus warning lamps.
Hey there Rock. I did not know it was a sin to be educated.
Nope. It's not a sin to be educated. But if you fall off your bike without a lid there's a MUCH greater chance you'll end up the IQ of a 3 month old. BOOM! Oh no he di-unt! Yep. Re-hijacked the thread back on topic. Yer welcome. Did I mention I have a FIAMM Freeway Blaster horn on my bike. The wimpy little OEM horn was worthless. Super easy upgrade. Took about 10 minutes max to change out and cost about 15 bucks shipped from Amazon. 130 decibels. I keep one finger on the horn button when driving in heavy traffic or coming up to an intersection. Sometimes I give a courtesy toot just for fun or if I think they aren't paying attention. I swear some peeps can't go 3o seconds without checking their phone. But I guess if you totally have like 30 people following you on Twitter you have an obligation to your fan base. Have a buddy who has a 12 volt air horn on his Harley. Yeah THAT gets your attention. I'm 100% certain more than one little old lady has soiled her Jesus Jammies when he hit that baby when she came drifting into his lane without signaling.
A very close friend of mine (who sadly passed recently but not for doing this) figured if you changed lanes without checking for a bike you don't deserve the side view mirror you didn't use. If someone started changing lanes into him he would pound their side mirror off with his fist then take off. Apparently it doesn't work on the big ford trucks with the mirrors that are held on with those two hefty bars though. He did this somewhat frequently.
Yep, people die on bikes. And skiing. And jogging (RIP Jim Fixx). And they die in cars and flying airplanes and hang gliding and swimming in lakes or the ocean and sitting on the porch and having SEX and....fill in the blank. Bought my first POS bike with my newspaper/lawn mowing money when I was eleven and haven't looked back. If I die on a bike they will ABSOLUTELY be able to say I died doing something I love. But I try my best to mitigate the risk. Don't drive without my seatbelt either.
CRAZYFOXTCU wrote:
A very close friend of mine (who sadly passed recently but not for doing this) figured if you changed lanes without checking for a bike you don't deserve the side view mirror you didn't use. If someone started changing lanes into him he would pound their side mirror off with his fist then take off. Apparently it doesn't work on the big ford trucks with the mirrors that are held on with those two hefty bars though. He did this somewhat frequently.
Every one makes mistakes and I don
SUGARSANDSPICE wrote:
[quote=CRAZYFOXTCU]A very close friend of mine (who sadly passed recently but not for doing this) figured if you changed lanes without checking for a bike you don't deserve the side view mirror you didn't use. If someone started changing lanes into him he would pound their side mirror off with his fist then take off. Apparently it doesn't work on the big ford trucks with the mirrors that are held on with those two hefty bars though. He did this somewhat frequently.
Every one makes mistakes and I don
I'm a turn the other cheek kind of guy so I wouldn't do the mirror thing myself but I totally get why he used to do it.
@ deliciously wet, since I'm the one lifting her she is safer than someone who is just that tall and walking around without a helmet. You see, superman doesn't make mistakes.
@ deliciously wet, since I'm the one lifting her she is safer than someone who is just that tall and walking around without a helmet. You see, superman doesn't make mistakes.
Ms. Evil wants ta see both yer cheeks, TCU.
Rather you Drive anything on the road there will always be something that could go terribly wrong....I always practice safe driving everyday.....though it drives my hubby insane I stick to the speed limit, stop at a stop sign instead of rolling and that is because I use to Be a DRIVER'S LICENSE EXAMINER so my O.C.D will only allow me to drive the way the book told me and trust me I keep 3 car lenghth from every vehicle and 3 seconds for turn signals but most people bike or cars wont wait that time and that is the difference from saving a life to keeping one(3 seconds).
I could tell you more then half the people who took the motorcycle test rarely passed and had to use smaller bikes then Harley to pass. That does not even cover one that have no license on the road. True story....Saw it with my own eyes....Just saying.
If we took 3 seconds to think then more then enough time to react to a bike or a car cutting you off or vice versa.....assume everyone is out to kill you and you will always take more time when making moves. Oh and you will not see me texting or looking at my phone.....I will call you back later when I am not driving.....Thank you Very MUCH!!!
I could tell you more then half the people who took the motorcycle test rarely passed and had to use smaller bikes then Harley to pass. That does not even cover one that have no license on the road. True story....Saw it with my own eyes....Just saying.
If we took 3 seconds to think then more then enough time to react to a bike or a car cutting you off or vice versa.....assume everyone is out to kill you and you will always take more time when making moves. Oh and you will not see me texting or looking at my phone.....I will call you back later when I am not driving.....Thank you Very MUCH!!!
Have you ever noticed that people tend to drive in the manner they think the vehicle is built for. That is to imply that the trucker that has a perfect record and does everything by the book might just get real crazy when driving a high powered sports car or cycle.
Keep your old spark plugs handy ........ the porcelain on those little fuckers does a great job of breaking windows .... make those idiots that pull out in front of you remember that a bad idea .... I have spent seven weeks in the hospital because some jackass pulled out in front of me most of all my biker friends don't get complacent cuz the autos will kill you ........ it's hard to describe the feeling I get when I hand a person thier keys after I have fixed their motorcycle and the next day they are dead I have worked at plenty of dealerships in the past 26 years every year I see good friends and customers parish doing what they love .... riding their bikes ..... 2 hours ago I was almost ran over by a suburban while sitting at a stop sign...... of course hearing the squealing tires behind me I turn around to look .... the idiots on the phone!!!!
At least the guy in the suburban smiled and waved..... hey mother fucker you want to wipe my ass for me now!!!!
Keep your old spark plugs handy ........ the porcelain on those little fuckers does a great job of breaking windows .... make those idiots that pull out in front of you remember that a bad idea .... I have spent seven weeks in the hospital because some jackass pulled out in front of me most of all my biker friends don't get complacent cuz the autos will kill you ........ it's hard to describe the feeling I get when I hand a person thier keys after I have fixed their motorcycle and the next day they are dead I have worked at plenty of dealerships in the past 26 years every year I see good friends and customers parish doing what they love .... riding their bikes ..... 2 hours ago I was almost ran over by a suburban while sitting at a stop sign...... of course hearing the squealing tires behind me I turn around to look .... the idiots on the phone!!!!
EVILDOERS wrote:
Ms. Evil wants ta see both yer cheeks, TCU.
Challenge accepted. Naked motorcycle ride it is!
Here's a whip! Keep it going.