I am a Floridian, I am also a recovering New Yorker (no, not the city, the opposite end) and I have never been to Utah, however, I have seen a lot of posts in here about Utah:
1.) No porn
2.) No real beer, only watered down beer
3.) LDS controls the majority of the state
4.) Most people are afraid of LDS in some way
If this is all true, which I am unsure of, why would someone choose to live there?
I am sure I will get as many reasons as there are people who answer, but I would like to know if its so bad, why would you choose to stay there?
1.) No porn
2.) No real beer, only watered down beer
3.) LDS controls the majority of the state
4.) Most people are afraid of LDS in some way
If this is all true, which I am unsure of, why would someone choose to live there?
I am sure I will get as many reasons as there are people who answer, but I would like to know if its so bad, why would you choose to stay there?
Lol. I was born in ut and hate it. we have actually been trying to sell the house and move to Florida for 4 years. You didn't list the real kicker for me, the inversion. USA today reported the 5 worst cities air last January and the top 4 were cities in Utah.
The Mormon culture is Thick and repressive, winters are cold and the air is filthy. What makes Utah great in my opinion is the country. From deep dry snow only moments from the main population centers,to world class rivers, spectacular desert country. Utah, despite It's crazy rules and history, is a very beautiful place to be. And there is a pretty crazy swingers scene.
I'm a recovering New Jerseyan, did the retired and move to Florida thing...Needed a change after a divorce and came out here...It's beautiful out here...Having been in the lifestyle I tend to gravitate towards more open minded people which surprisingly there are quite a few out here in Utah...I love the out doors and riding my Harley and all the sports and riding out here are world class...You learn to deal with the goofy drinking laws and find out that there are more bars and fun places to hang then anyone would imagine...So give it a try you may find you love it out here like I do!!!
Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite.
1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something.
2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt.
3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution.
4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-)
1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something.
2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt.
3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution.
4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-)
We're transplants from California. We both grew up hanging out on the beach. I loved living there back in the 60's, 70's & 80's. It's changed considerably. We're not part of the demographic in Utah. Would this have been the place I'd have moved to on my own? Probably not. That being said, it's a great place to live once you get used to the culture. Some of the so called "problems" mentioned also make this a better place to live and raise a family.
Every state has it's issues. I probably would never want to move to Florida. Not that it's a bad place, just not for me. It's too humid, too many bugs, and too many old people (Just kidding about the old people).
Every state has it's issues. I probably would never want to move to Florida. Not that it's a bad place, just not for me. It's too humid, too many bugs, and too many old people (Just kidding about the old people).
I was born in Utah and quite frankly it will always be my home. I have traveled over much of this country and there is beauty and problems where ever you go. I have lived in Florida and elsewhere and each have their good points as well as there bad.
1. You are correct about the beer. But I don
1. You are correct about the beer. But I don
Ohhhh mannn...are you kidding??? FUCKCHASITY is the only one that understands! We HAVE to keep these stories ALIVE or pretty soon people will be moving here from everywhere..and it will soon be just like the places they left! Sheeesh! Come on folks!! It's HORRIBLE here......yeah...that's it!
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TIFF is right. Do NOT come to Utah (unless you're hot nymphomaniacs). We have deadly animals here who can maim and kill you...
And those aren't even the scariest ones! Thanks Mr Evil!
JSTJIM72... Thanks asking this questions. Utah sucks everyone! Don't move here, just stay away! No porn or good beer is to be had. The MoMo's bug you constantly about going to church with them. It's a barren waste land of a desert with no beauty what so ever, you will freeze in the winter and bake during the summer. The economy here sucks too and taxes are sky high plus the pollution is horrible! Please do yourself a favor and stay away, especially you Californians! 
Female here~ I have lived in UT, CA and CT. Every state has their majority that "controls" the state. I moved from UTah and found myself back here. the people are nice.. Yes I was raised LDS and some are rude,. just like everywhere else.. people are individuals not all lumped into one category (example LDS).
Honestly my hubby comes from CT where people were uptight and never knew their neighbors. here we love our neighborhood.. yes some are different but again it is like everywhere else.
Honestly my hubby comes from CT where people were uptight and never knew their neighbors. here we love our neighborhood.. yes some are different but again it is like everywhere else.
EVILDOERS wrote:
Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite.
1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something.
2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt.
3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution.
4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-)
Exactly what I was going to say but I would add in that it's more of an out door culture here. So many outdoor adventure activities to do here.
oh the other hand .. if you are going off of someone else opinion you must not be as open minded as you think you are... and might fit right in.
Oh, and what's up with those crazy sinkholes, Florida?
EVILDOERS wrote:
Oh, and what's up with those crazy sinkholes, Florida?
What do you expect building on top of a reclaimed SWAMP??? :P
Mosquitos are not really bad in S. Florida - it's those damned Palmetto Bugs that irked me when I lived there. Think HUGE waterbugs that have kickass armor - I've actually stepped on several only to have them wink at me and run off into the night
If you could only breath the air, and people were not so rude.
I have lived in Utah all but 7 of my growing up years. I have been out of the state, and I always enjoy coming back home. It is beautiful here! Lots of different scenery for every kind of person. Where I live, there is a lake and mountains to the east and we are almost on the mountain to the west. We get deer, coyote, fox, mountain lion, antelope, rabbits and many other small creatures out here. It's open and smells like mountains in the mornings. It's a great place to raise kids! Most people (and I say most because there are those who have a major chip on their shoulder) are wonderful and happy and treat people with more respect than I have seen anywhere! Most everyone says please and thank you. I find the people I play with here are very considerate. I was raised LDS, so to me, it's just a normal part of life here. Nothing scary. Most are willing to accept anyone, regardless of their religion. The state isn't run by the church. There are a lot of people that are LDS that are also in government, so there is a bit of a cross over, but I think it's like that in almost any state. But, if people want to move here, I say don't!! If you don't like snow, animals, mountains or beautiful scenery, this state isn't for you!
And sharks....what about those friggin' sharks? Betcha they're figuring out a way to swim around in sinkholes so they can eat more people!
EVILDOERS wrote:EVILDOERS summed it up nicely. I would also add that the cost of living is lower than most "cool" places in the country. Also, the people here seem to be much more attractive than in most states(it probably has something to do with the water). No matter where you live there will be good and bad qualities, but overall the good outweighs the bad in Utah. It's just what you make of it.
Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite.
1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something.
2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt.
3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution.
4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-)
And don't forget green Jell-O with little shredded carrots...and funeral potatoes.
This is pretty ridiculous.
We live in Utah and have lived in FL as well. In fact, we still own a beach house there.
I'll address the issues as they were posted...
1)No porn. Well...I don't know what the means. If you're looking to go into a shop and rent a VHS tape, that would be a problem everywhere. Who gets porn from anywhere other than the internet? It's 2013!!! The LDS don't control the internet. Porn is virtually everywhere if you want it. That "NO PORN" statement is just ignorant.
2) No real beer, only watered down beer. The greatest misconception about Utah. We have more micro breweries than Florida and we can get beer as strong as you can handle. Another really ignorant statement.
3) LDS controls the majority of the state. Look in your own backyard. They control that too. If not them, then the Chinese or some other group that you seem to be afraid of. The LDS developed the state. Really...what do you expect?
4) Most people are afraid of LDS in some way. I've never heard this from anybody in Utah. I would guess you're the only one afraid of the LDS. They all seem really nice to us. We actually enjoy their company.
Now, I have the benefit of having lived in both states, unlike you. So I'll tell you why Florida sucks the nasty, festering dick, compared to Utah.
1) Florida has a high crime rate compared to Utah.
2) People in Utah are more fit than the people in Florida.
3) Florida is full of old, broken down fuckers that shit themselves all day.
4) Florida is FLAT as shit and has nothing to do but go to the fucking beach, which gets old fast.
5) Utah has the Rocky Mountains, Zion, Moab, Arches, and Canyonlands.
6) Utah has better beer, better bitches and better scenery.
If you enjoy sitting in front of your computer all day working on ways to hook up with the next old couple that needs to get fucked, Florida is your scene. What else is there to do? Old people, fucking old people is the only thing happening down there. But if getting outside for adventure, drinking good beer with young, fit people sounds fun. Utah is the spot.
Florida is a total shit infested hole. That's why we left.
We live in Utah and have lived in FL as well. In fact, we still own a beach house there.
I'll address the issues as they were posted...
1)No porn. Well...I don't know what the means. If you're looking to go into a shop and rent a VHS tape, that would be a problem everywhere. Who gets porn from anywhere other than the internet? It's 2013!!! The LDS don't control the internet. Porn is virtually everywhere if you want it. That "NO PORN" statement is just ignorant.
2) No real beer, only watered down beer. The greatest misconception about Utah. We have more micro breweries than Florida and we can get beer as strong as you can handle. Another really ignorant statement.
3) LDS controls the majority of the state. Look in your own backyard. They control that too. If not them, then the Chinese or some other group that you seem to be afraid of. The LDS developed the state. Really...what do you expect?
4) Most people are afraid of LDS in some way. I've never heard this from anybody in Utah. I would guess you're the only one afraid of the LDS. They all seem really nice to us. We actually enjoy their company.
Now, I have the benefit of having lived in both states, unlike you. So I'll tell you why Florida sucks the nasty, festering dick, compared to Utah.
1) Florida has a high crime rate compared to Utah.
2) People in Utah are more fit than the people in Florida.
3) Florida is full of old, broken down fuckers that shit themselves all day.
4) Florida is FLAT as shit and has nothing to do but go to the fucking beach, which gets old fast.
5) Utah has the Rocky Mountains, Zion, Moab, Arches, and Canyonlands.
6) Utah has better beer, better bitches and better scenery.
If you enjoy sitting in front of your computer all day working on ways to hook up with the next old couple that needs to get fucked, Florida is your scene. What else is there to do? Old people, fucking old people is the only thing happening down there. But if getting outside for adventure, drinking good beer with young, fit people sounds fun. Utah is the spot.
Florida is a total shit infested hole. That's why we left.
Utah is a great lace to live. I moved from Daytona Beach Florida in 1993 and will probably never move back I love to travel to Florida, but not wild about living there again. I have a little different perspective on Mormons in Utah. I have been impacted FAR less by them than I was by the Southern Baptists in Florida. They are just cool people with a lifestyle that keeps them way too busy to get into trouble. They can do WAY more with their 10% than our government can do with it's 30-50%! But, the do have that a little backwards - they should have 10% beer and 3.2% tithing. I do hate the Utah winter air pollution with the inversions, but that's the best time to visit Florida and go scuba diving in the keys.
Mr. Sexperimentors
Mr. Sexperimentors
Don't sugarcoat it FIT. Tell us how you really feel! And Mormons pretty much invented swinging only they found a loophole for the whole "sausage fest" problem and just figured out a way to have a whole bunch of hot chicks at the party and no dudes to have to share with. :-)
And Yes, TRYST. You've prolly pissed off the wrong god or something when the fucking earth opens up and swallows you.
And Yes, TRYST. You've prolly pissed off the wrong god or something when the fucking earth opens up and swallows you.
TRYST,
You only saw the PUBLIC wives. They keep the hot sexy ones hidden so nobody tries to get in on the action. ;-)
You only saw the PUBLIC wives. They keep the hot sexy ones hidden so nobody tries to get in on the action. ;-)
I live in florida and i want to visit ut because of the beautiful county there
Are you sure you aren't just trying to escape those uber sneaky sinkholes? But we do have beautiful counties here. Tooele is particularly lovely this time of year. You should also check out Juab and Duchesne.
As a fellow transplanted New Yorker (NYC Side and Upstate for a few years), I can tell you many of the stereotypes about Utah are not true.
Drinks - You can get them. You can get real beer and the liquor stores carry imports and 8% stuff beer.
Culture - yes there are a lot of LDS folks here but there are a lot of Non-LDS folks here and we all have a lot in common (we're not LDS).
Outdoors - The outdoors are great here. Weather is awesome. Never gets really cold (NY Cold) and when its hot, its dry.
Cost of living - Taxes are low and you get more house for your money.
Lifestyle - There are a LOT of lifestyle folks here. There are 1-2 organized parties every weekend and many private house parties as well.
So we like Utah. Have lots of friends here. We drink, and play
Charlie & Kathi
Drinks - You can get them. You can get real beer and the liquor stores carry imports and 8% stuff beer.
Culture - yes there are a lot of LDS folks here but there are a lot of Non-LDS folks here and we all have a lot in common (we're not LDS).
Outdoors - The outdoors are great here. Weather is awesome. Never gets really cold (NY Cold) and when its hot, its dry.
Cost of living - Taxes are low and you get more house for your money.
Lifestyle - There are a LOT of lifestyle folks here. There are 1-2 organized parties every weekend and many private house parties as well.
So we like Utah. Have lots of friends here. We drink, and play
Charlie & Kathi
Every stop fibbing about Utah it's horrible here. We're moving to Florida as soon as the hurricanes start going around it!
Well im a long haul trker i have seen it all and exsept for the inversion utah alot better than most
UTCPL4ALL wrote:
JSTJIM72... Thanks asking this questions. Utah sucks everyone! Don't move here, just stay away! No porn or good beer is to be had. The MoMo's bug you constantly about going to church with them. It's a barren waste land of a desert with no beauty what so ever, you will freeze in the winter and bake during the summer. The economy here sucks too and taxes are sky high plus the pollution is horrible! Please do yourself a favor and stay away, especially you Californians!
Hey now, we're all not that bad!
And wtf is up with those snails that eat yer houses in Florida?
WICKEDWANDA4U wrote:
I live in florida and i want to visit ut because of the beautiful county there
The folks in this beautiful state love to have Florida women cum here!
Im from Tennessee and have lived in utah a few years now.. Love it ..great summer and winter..NO spring or fall sucks though lol. Beautiful women here !!! More so than any other state ive been to besides maybe CaLI. There are some negatives, but just like any other place its not perfect. High taxes, no humidity,no gambling .. But you should make this a place to visit !!!
Thanks for the replies.
It seems that what I posted was taken as an insult, its not what was intended, to those I offended, tough shit.
As far as Florida sucking, in some ways it does indeed. There are a lot of blue hairs here, but only a few months per year, so we deal with them and avoid taxes while we rape those blue hairs for their money, it works out well for us.
No matter what anyone may think, the reality and statistics don't lie: Tampa has more adult businesses per capita than any other city in the nation, including Vegas. There's strip clubs all over the damned place, plenty of swing places, nudist places, toy stores, porn stores, porn movie makers, etc.
Sugar, when did you live here? The 1920's? There's this thing called a dryer, its electric and dries your clothes so you don't hang them on a line, I have been here over 30 years and have yet to hang my clothes outside. There's this other thing called an air conditioner too, it takes all the humidity out of the home so you don't have the issues with being wet inside that you spoke of.
Sinkholes, they're mostly in places people don't live. Occasionally, they happen in populated areas, but its rare.
Sharks only fuck with you when you fuck with them, same as gators.
Beaches suck, they're only there for the tourists, real Floridians don't go, we go out on boats and get away from the fat people in Speedoes. ROFLMAO
Finally, all I posted originally was due to people living in Utah making statements, not on something I read elsewhere.
It seems that what I posted was taken as an insult, its not what was intended, to those I offended, tough shit.
As far as Florida sucking, in some ways it does indeed. There are a lot of blue hairs here, but only a few months per year, so we deal with them and avoid taxes while we rape those blue hairs for their money, it works out well for us.
No matter what anyone may think, the reality and statistics don't lie: Tampa has more adult businesses per capita than any other city in the nation, including Vegas. There's strip clubs all over the damned place, plenty of swing places, nudist places, toy stores, porn stores, porn movie makers, etc.
Sugar, when did you live here? The 1920's? There's this thing called a dryer, its electric and dries your clothes so you don't hang them on a line, I have been here over 30 years and have yet to hang my clothes outside. There's this other thing called an air conditioner too, it takes all the humidity out of the home so you don't have the issues with being wet inside that you spoke of.
Sinkholes, they're mostly in places people don't live. Occasionally, they happen in populated areas, but its rare.
Sharks only fuck with you when you fuck with them, same as gators.
Beaches suck, they're only there for the tourists, real Floridians don't go, we go out on boats and get away from the fat people in Speedoes. ROFLMAO
Finally, all I posted originally was due to people living in Utah making statements, not on something I read elsewhere.