It seems like your post got lost after you created the subject. What would you like to discuss about couples who swing and have kids?
We have three adorable kids. We wouldnt trade them for all the world. Unfortunatly we cant find a sitter all that often. So our ability to play is severly limited. Take this weekend, we got a sitter for Saturday night. Since we only found this out a few minuts ago, there is probably not enough time for us to be able to find some trouble to get into.
We have three adorable kids. We wouldnt trade them for all the world. Unfortunatly we cant find a sitter all that often. So our ability to play is severly limited. Take this weekend, we got a sitter for Saturday night. Since we only found this out a few minuts ago, there is probably not enough time for us to be able to find some trouble to get into.
Here's an "Amen" to the trials and tribulations of the "short-notice" dilemma.
We started poking around the lifestyle when our children were in their early teens, and were on the verge of not needing sitters. As they have gotten older and closer to adulthood (Much like we are by the way...might get older but simply REFUSE to GROW UP!!...lol) It seems harder to slip away from them even short-noticed...As they have gotten into trying to establish themselves in the world it seems they want our presence more and more, and we get the less and less time to get out, without a lot of explanations that is. We also find ourselves with some free time unexpectedly this weekend, and have experienced it before that it is near impossible to hook up a night out with someone on the last minute. Even the internet has not conquered this time-scheduling problem.
We started poking around the lifestyle when our children were in their early teens, and were on the verge of not needing sitters. As they have gotten older and closer to adulthood (Much like we are by the way...might get older but simply REFUSE to GROW UP!!...lol) It seems harder to slip away from them even short-noticed...As they have gotten into trying to establish themselves in the world it seems they want our presence more and more, and we get the less and less time to get out, without a lot of explanations that is. We also find ourselves with some free time unexpectedly this weekend, and have experienced it before that it is near impossible to hook up a night out with someone on the last minute. Even the internet has not conquered this time-scheduling problem.
I have two children and I was really looking forward to getting out last night and having fun for the first time in such a long time. I called the sitter early in the day to make sure we were good to go. I called later when I was ready to go the sitter had changed plans and was with friends. I wish the sitter would have at least called. So YES It's hard. But kids are absolutely amazing. I would never trade one second with my children.
We have 4 kids, 3 of which are under 3 years old. An 8 year old girl, 2 year old twin girls, and a one year old boy, so we totally understand the frustration that comes along with being loving parents and active swingers. To two worlds aren't always compatable. We have tried in vain to find a good sitter for all the kids, so most of the time we end up swinging when our oldest is off at a sleepover with a friend and the other babies are in bed. Today for instance, my wife and I had our girlfriend over for fun till 5:30 this morning and the kids got up an hour later!lol. So I am up with them taking care of the kids while the women sleep it off. Hard, but a small price to pay for a hot 3-some! Anyhow, as most swinging parents know....get it when you can, and if not....NO BIG DEAL. The kids needs come first. It's only sex after all. Just would like to say thanks to all the hot couples in Utah that have invited us to house parties etc. Some day we will get a sitter and get out of the house! I promise! ~A & J~
We too have 2 adorable kids, both girls. Since they are at the ages where we can trust that the house will not be burned to the ground if we step out, we are able to meet with others semi regularly.
There are one or two couples and a few singles that we have known for quite some time that on occassion bring their kids by for some strictly platonic quality time. It is nice that we can all get together as friends, maybe do a little BBQ'ing or watch a game on television. We all have an understanding that these times are to be very PC, as none of us wants our kids to start asking the wrong questions. We have not had any issues with this arrangement yet.
We tend to have a little more understanding of couples with kids. The challenges can be daunting to say the least, but as much as we love our children, we always make sure that we have adult time. This is essential to every romance, and after 12 years, things are looking hotter than ever for both of us.
Luvbugs!
There are one or two couples and a few singles that we have known for quite some time that on occassion bring their kids by for some strictly platonic quality time. It is nice that we can all get together as friends, maybe do a little BBQ'ing or watch a game on television. We all have an understanding that these times are to be very PC, as none of us wants our kids to start asking the wrong questions. We have not had any issues with this arrangement yet.
We tend to have a little more understanding of couples with kids. The challenges can be daunting to say the least, but as much as we love our children, we always make sure that we have adult time. This is essential to every romance, and after 12 years, things are looking hotter than ever for both of us.
Luvbugs!
PAS. Head over to the airport and fly on up to Chicago (lol I know how goofy that sounds but HEY it was funny) You can come party with us.
CMDuo It is funny we have noticed the same thing.
Shy That is why our swinger friends love our kids They baby sit for MOST of them and they get paid well because the are always reliable. Our 16 & 17 year old are not too happy now that they know we are swingers but the almighty buck ruled. LOL (side note, they normally baby sit from 7 pm Saturday to 4 pm Sunday and get $ 75 for two kids. Is that enough?)
GOOD GOD Tits you have the energy?
LUVBUGS at the risk of sounding like a single guy internet vulture DAMN GIRL would travel to you on short notice <chuckle>
CMDuo It is funny we have noticed the same thing.
Shy That is why our swinger friends love our kids They baby sit for MOST of them and they get paid well because the are always reliable. Our 16 & 17 year old are not too happy now that they know we are swingers but the almighty buck ruled. LOL (side note, they normally baby sit from 7 pm Saturday to 4 pm Sunday and get $ 75 for two kids. Is that enough?)
GOOD GOD Tits you have the energy?
LUVBUGS at the risk of sounding like a single guy internet vulture DAMN GIRL would travel to you on short notice <chuckle>
We also have 2 children and find it difficult to get a sitter when we really want one. We end up getting a sitter when-ever we can and then try to find something to do at the last minute. Normally we do not have the time to setsomething up and end up with no-where to go. Then it seem the next week when the local group is meeting we cannot get a sitter to save our lives. When all the pieces fall into place and we have a sitter on the right night, we have a tendency to get a little wild.
When we have friends over they normally have kids and we do the family thing - play games and BBQ. Then after the kids go up stairs to bed and we wait till all of them are fast asleep. Then we may go out to the hottub or up to our room and play with the doors locked. As for our kids and there reaction they dont really seem to even notice when we have friends over. Now we do not play in the livingroom or anywhere where little eyes could see. We keep everything behind closed doors and long after they go to bed. It seems to work fine.
Then there are the times that we get a sitter and go out to a club and meet a couple or single and bring them home and we alway explain "the rules" before we attempt to go to our place. We have gotten some strange looks from a couple sitters we used to have, but then we also introduced a recent sitter to some new things. We had a neighbor sitting for us and when we came home from a local "meet and greet" with another couple she caught on to what was happening and asked if she could stay, of course we let her stay and play ( she was a very hot 21 year old.) She has become a regular third in our bed but now we have to find a new sitter because she wants to go out with us instead of waiting for us to come home.
When we have friends over they normally have kids and we do the family thing - play games and BBQ. Then after the kids go up stairs to bed and we wait till all of them are fast asleep. Then we may go out to the hottub or up to our room and play with the doors locked. As for our kids and there reaction they dont really seem to even notice when we have friends over. Now we do not play in the livingroom or anywhere where little eyes could see. We keep everything behind closed doors and long after they go to bed. It seems to work fine.
Then there are the times that we get a sitter and go out to a club and meet a couple or single and bring them home and we alway explain "the rules" before we attempt to go to our place. We have gotten some strange looks from a couple sitters we used to have, but then we also introduced a recent sitter to some new things. We had a neighbor sitting for us and when we came home from a local "meet and greet" with another couple she caught on to what was happening and asked if she could stay, of course we let her stay and play ( she was a very hot 21 year old.) She has become a regular third in our bed but now we have to find a new sitter because she wants to go out with us instead of waiting for us to come home.
An obvious approach would be to try to establish a connection with some people who have very-flexible schedules - who understand your situation and are able to be available whenever you find yourself free.
Not to be entirely self-serving, but you might consider the plethora of Males who play as Singles - since many of them (us) have a lot of flexibility. I can play on very short notice and am almost always available (independent contractor so I set my own schedule).
Perhaps there is a whole new "movement" possible here - contacting folx to just "make contact" and get to know them - to build up a collection of people who would be thrilled to be your "toys" when you get the chance. My kids are grown, but I've been there and understand the need to "take it when you can get it" - and I also understand even when "planned" things have to suddenly be re-arranged.
Not to be entirely self-serving, but you might consider the plethora of Males who play as Singles - since many of them (us) have a lot of flexibility. I can play on very short notice and am almost always available (independent contractor so I set my own schedule).
Perhaps there is a whole new "movement" possible here - contacting folx to just "make contact" and get to know them - to build up a collection of people who would be thrilled to be your "toys" when you get the chance. My kids are grown, but I've been there and understand the need to "take it when you can get it" - and I also understand even when "planned" things have to suddenly be re-arranged.
We have two wonderful kids ages 27 and 25 our son was born with mild cerebal palsy he holds a job and does pretty well for himself but he is like a 16year old in a 25 year old body!
Emotions will not allow him to drive so we have to play taxi for him our daughter on the other hand, is very self sufficent is close as you can get to being district manger for a fast food place the only problem is her "fianc'e bailed after he got her pregnant after this fact we left very good paying jobs in europe to return home to help her out.
We made a joint decision that I would become ( mr. grandpa) I have taken care of our grandaughter since bith she is now 4yrs old we decided to let my wife continue her carrer and I would take care of the little one why?
Try getting a sitter at midnight when the shit hits the fan at her work or try finding a sitter that can put up with the crazy unpredictable hrs by now , you may have guessed it they both still live at home and they do pay room and board. How does this impact our lifestyle ?
For the most part not too bad as they both know its fend for themselves on fri and sat nights lol. There have been times we have had to post pone plans due to one of her workers not showing and she has to pull a dbl shift buit we tell each and every person in the lifestyle we meet that our sched is tight and sched to change at a moments notice.
In this house its definitely Family first some have told us we should tell them to leave the nest but that day will come when its time and we will then know in our hearts we did the right thing.
Emotions will not allow him to drive so we have to play taxi for him our daughter on the other hand, is very self sufficent is close as you can get to being district manger for a fast food place the only problem is her "fianc'e bailed after he got her pregnant after this fact we left very good paying jobs in europe to return home to help her out.
We made a joint decision that I would become ( mr. grandpa) I have taken care of our grandaughter since bith she is now 4yrs old we decided to let my wife continue her carrer and I would take care of the little one why?
Try getting a sitter at midnight when the shit hits the fan at her work or try finding a sitter that can put up with the crazy unpredictable hrs by now , you may have guessed it they both still live at home and they do pay room and board. How does this impact our lifestyle ?
For the most part not too bad as they both know its fend for themselves on fri and sat nights lol. There have been times we have had to post pone plans due to one of her workers not showing and she has to pull a dbl shift buit we tell each and every person in the lifestyle we meet that our sched is tight and sched to change at a moments notice.
In this house its definitely Family first some have told us we should tell them to leave the nest but that day will come when its time and we will then know in our hearts we did the right thing.
We really don't have the same problem with a sitter that everyone else does - at least not on the weekends. Her mother will watch them anytime we need her to. We have 2 boys ages 6 and 3, they are the only grandkids on his side so far and the only boy grandkids on her side. Her mom absolutely loves watching em and even calls us if we dont ask her first lol. So spur of the moment is great for us but so is planned.