In the wake of the decision to remove verification of single males, we will be implementing a new feature that should help you in your search for quality members of any type. This feature should be up and running in 48 hours.
Introducing the new Seal of Approval. It's a modified comment system that now allows you to give your seal of approval to members you actually meet. When making a new comment, you can choose to add your seal of approval.
After you receive your first seal of approval, you will get an actual Seal of Approval on your profile. The Seal of Approval will show the total number of approvals you have acquired. The more you have, the more legitimate you look.
If you click the seal, you will be able to read the comments members have attached to their approval.
If after you give your seal of approval that you no longer feel it was correct, you will be able to remove your approval.
Remember, the system is not fool proof so you will need to use your own judgment when actually meeting other members.
Introducing the new Seal of Approval. It's a modified comment system that now allows you to give your seal of approval to members you actually meet. When making a new comment, you can choose to add your seal of approval.
After you receive your first seal of approval, you will get an actual Seal of Approval on your profile. The Seal of Approval will show the total number of approvals you have acquired. The more you have, the more legitimate you look.
If you click the seal, you will be able to read the comments members have attached to their approval.
If after you give your seal of approval that you no longer feel it was correct, you will be able to remove your approval.
Remember, the system is not fool proof so you will need to use your own judgment when actually meeting other members.
Just to be clear, this feature is for all members, singles and couples.
Also, only paid members will be able to approve other members and have the seal. If a paid member no longer is a paid member, their approval will be removed as well as any seal they have. This is to prevent someone from creating a free account and posting an approval to their paid account as well as being a plus feature for paid members.
We already got one from Good Housekeeping. You have to be able to simultaneously bake a cake, organize your shopping coupons and have 6 guys bukkake on your face without getting a stain on the carpet. Yeah it was hard getting certified but totally worth it. We get, on average, 2 and 1/2 more friend requests a month now that we have the seal AND we get 10% off Spic and Span at any Krogers.
As silly as the seals all sound, a lot of sites actually use them. They may word them differently but they are in use and quite useful. This is a sex site so it not only draws the sexy people but it can draw the wrong people too.
Certifications, verifications, seal, whatever they may be, they help combat the bad to make this a safer place for you to play. Regular dating sites are implementing background check verifications as a safety tool and this is just a similar system but managed by the members.
If you don't like them, don't participate. They aren't necessary and they can only help you.
Certifications, verifications, seal, whatever they may be, they help combat the bad to make this a safer place for you to play. Regular dating sites are implementing background check verifications as a safety tool and this is just a similar system but managed by the members.
If you don't like them, don't participate. They aren't necessary and they can only help you.
Seal Of Approval 
I look at this way, it's just like the expiration date on a driver license. Just becuse it's expired it dosn't mean I don't know how to drive anymore.. So should my shinny real seal be taken away that dosn't mean I will stop being real. a nice guy such as my self will always be a guy you can count on and jerk will always be a jerk seal or no seal. Besides, arn't are fellow swing mates the true measure of who's real and want to spend time with?
WHYNOTSAYHI wrote:I guess that's the point. If only you know that you're a decent guy, it doesn't do as much good, as someone else saying it with a user given "seal of approval"
I look at this way, it's just like the expiration date on a driver license. Just becuse it's expired it dosn't mean I don't know how to drive anymore.. So should my shinny real seal be taken away that dosn't mean I will stop being real. a nice guy such as my self will always be a guy you can count on and jerk will always be a jerk seal or no seal. Besides, arn't are fellow swing mates the true measure of who's real and want to spend time with?
I personally think that even if it were identifying 'Sessy', honest, great in bed, whatever people that's great because guess what it will also weed out dishonest, selfish arrogant people.
Everyone has the perfect compatible match, hell probably many matches, so what is the harm in 'checking references'. There is not a company or individual in the world who would refuse references, or ignore warnings. What is the harm really, as long as it does not turn into a childish 'your a jerk' angle.
Just our thoughts, not meant to judge, or segregate anyone, simply our opinion.
Everyone has the perfect compatible match, hell probably many matches, so what is the harm in 'checking references'. There is not a company or individual in the world who would refuse references, or ignore warnings. What is the harm really, as long as it does not turn into a childish 'your a jerk' angle.
Just our thoughts, not meant to judge, or segregate anyone, simply our opinion.
Too early to tell. I have a tendency to think gimmick and to be skeptical. So I think we should reserve judgment on this one. I hope it will not make it harder for new members.
ANDRAYWAY_SHANAYNAY wrote:Yeah, what they said, only not as twisted!
Minor question. So what if we get some seal of approval and it's from someone we don't necessarily want to be approved by, is there a way to not be approved by particular people or ensure that the person getting approved approves the approval. My god that was a tongue twister.
Can you refuse to be sealed? Does your "real" seal and such go away when this other seal is implemented? I think the thought is fine, pretty much just like being able to add comments as is available here now. I just don't want it on my profile -- just a personal choice. I've seen some folks with so many "We boinked 'em too" comments on their profiles that we're like "Holy shit, these people have screwed everything but the family dog. Actually, we prolly just don't know about the dog 'cause she can't type." 
What's next, personality profile tests conducted by psychiatrists to see who we're most compatible with? That way it doesn't matter who the recommendation's coming from? 
"This psychiatrist recommends that this person is an in the closet lesbian trapped in a man's body. Have sex with them accordingly."My only question, are we adding one more thing to confuse new people coming into the lifestyle. With the good and bad we have experienced with seals it's not a factor in a decision to meet someone. Would a newcomer be given an impression a seal of some type says throw caution to the wind and we have no worries.
PALS4FUN wrote:ANDRAYWAY_SHANAYNAY wrote:Yeah, what they said, only not as twisted!
Minor question. So what if we get some seal of approval and it's from someone we don't necessarily want to be approved by, is there a way to not be approved by particular people or ensure that the person getting approved approves the approval. My god that was a tongue twister.
I agree. I don't want to screw someone that has screwed everyone either.
WHYNOTSAYHI wrote:You don't need a seal, in our book it does not show what a gentleman you are anyway.
I look at this way, it's just like the expiration date on a driver license. Just becuse it's expired it dosn't mean I don't know how to drive anymore.. So should my shinny real seal be taken away that dosn't mean I will stop being real. a nice guy such as my self will always be a guy you can count on and jerk will always be a jerk seal or no seal. Besides, arn't are fellow swing mates the true measure of who's real and want to spend time with?
To me (m) this looks like a competition to see who can get the most notoriety, even the admin stated the more you have the more it validates you. We have no comments on each other but don't think it's necessary for everyone to know what kind of relationship we have every time we have one. If your ever in the neighborhood know someone that wouldn't mind going on a ride.
I don't think it is intended that if one gives a "Seal" that you have boinked them. Hell, most people are bad in bed, or have bad table manners and so on. If you think a guy is hot, but is a total ass, you are not going to "approve" him. This has nothing to do with "Seesy" people either, or a popularity contest. There are probably 100 peeps I could give a genuine approval of and would have no or little interest in having sex with them (unless I am totally drunk, but that is another topic). There are countless people that I do know that I wouldn't give a "seal of Approval", because they are asses. I would hate to see a new couple in there first encounter of indulgence (isn't that why we are here, indulgence)and to have it ruined because they fakes or whatever.
People will receive "Seals" from being met in person, real people, good peeps and nice. If one has ten "Seals" it does not mean that they have fucked them all, how narrow minded are you? They may have not been sexual with any one of them. It will mean what we want it to mean and that they are Nice, good, real people.
So I believe the "seals" will have extreme value when wanting to play or associate with. It will rule out the Fakes, Jerks, Asses and so on.
People will receive "Seals" from being met in person, real people, good peeps and nice. If one has ten "Seals" it does not mean that they have fucked them all, how narrow minded are you? They may have not been sexual with any one of them. It will mean what we want it to mean and that they are Nice, good, real people.
So I believe the "seals" will have extreme value when wanting to play or associate with. It will rule out the Fakes, Jerks, Asses and so on.
I think we need another one, a certificate we can put a number in, 0 to 10.
could stand for anything, how long you last, dick length, what you can swallow, the most you had in one day, orgasms your good for, etc. Not any more confusing than this.
Comments are the only reliable source of information that are difficult to fake, do we really need more than that.
could stand for anything, how long you last, dick length, what you can swallow, the most you had in one day, orgasms your good for, etc. Not any more confusing than this.
Comments are the only reliable source of information that are difficult to fake, do we really need more than that.
Nothing will beat common sense
UCANTOUCHMYMONKY wrote:Hey I'm up for showing them my gun permit and a pic of me holding my wife up by the hair, think that would work for you. Maybe we could see yours also.
I personally appreciate the time and effort involved in what you will be implementing here. As it is proposed i think it will be a great addition to an already great website. I commend you for actively listening to the members of your site and making improvements as you seem fit that are in tune with the wishes of your customers. I would aslo like to acknowledge that in implimenting this Improvement to the site i am sure there is considerable work involved. Your willingness to undertake this addition cost and expense without passing the cost onto your members is comendable and reflective of why this site has evolved through the years to become one of the highest quality lifestyle sites around. So without any intention of critism, I have an idea that could be piggy backed on this concept that would provide an option for an even more official designation of verification.
Would you be opposed to a member setting up a profile strictly for verifying matters of public record such as marital status and criminal background for single males who request this verification? single males could send a drivers license or other form of legal identification to this member who would then check public records for marital status and criminal history. I envision this member would charge a fee to these single males, and upon diligently researching and verifying the single male's claims they would award their verification under the new system you will be implimenting. Within this verifying member's profile there would be a discriptionn of how this member's verification is awarded so inquiring member would understand the gravity of this member's verification. As a further measur of assurance, in the private pics section of the verifying member's profile, they could retain the picture, but not necessarily the name from the legal ID provided by the verified single male and make the image available to other members who request access to it and are given permission by the verified single male.
This may sound cumbersome and there are certainly some refinements that would need to be made to this rough concept, but I believe there is significant risk associated with becoming involved with and interacting with an individual posing as a single who is actually married. In my conversations, primarily with single females, I have been made aware of some horrible scenarios resulting from becoming involved with men who claimed to be single and were actually married, with fall out ranging from misplaced emotional sentiments to confrontations with the spouses of these dishonest men. One woman I know even had a baseball bat taken to her vehicle by a jealous wife.
Of coarse, this same service could be provided for single females as well, but I suspect very few of them would be interested in paying someone a fee for the work involved as I don't think there would be the same value for others on the site placed on verification of single females as with single males. By contrast I believe in an effort to distinguish themselves as having a higher degree of credibility from the throngs of single male accounts on here, there are a fair number is single males who would be willing to pay a fee of say $200 to have a trusted and credible third party to verify their marital status and criminal background, and vouch for them that they are who they say they are. I know I would
ANDRAYWAY_SHANAYNAY wrote:
I am still concerned a little about the unintended consequences. Say we get the seal of approval from some couple that we met that we didn't like, or say we get it from a swingular member that has a horrid reputation with other swingular members. I am concerned that if we get approved by the wrong person or couple, that may hinder our opportunities with couples or singles that the person who approved us didn't get along with for one reason or another. And the people we miss out on may even be very compatible with us. Call me crazy, but I have always had issues with people overlabeling each other.
As stated in the original email and post, this is just an extension of the comments system, allowing a member to give their approval: a sort of recommmend or 'hey, this person is nice, you should meet them sometime.' As with the current comments system, the receiver of the comment/approval can decide to hide or show it or delete it all together. You have control of your own comments/approvals.
And for those who think this is a popularity contest, you couldn't be more wrong. IT'S NOT A RATINGS SYSTEM. You are not rating the person on sex or personality or anything like that. Get that out of your heads. It's just a simple way to communicate that you think this person is a good person, that it's, plain and simple. If you think otherwise, then you have a complex problem.
How many people do you know in the lifestyle that like you? Are they all barbie dolls? Are they all BBW's? Who cares? What does that have to do with anything? So right off the bat, you may get 5 to 10 comments or approvals. You may have 2. Who cares. The only thing that number proves is that other people have met you and think you are a good person. It doesn't mean anything else. And if someone else interprets it that way, then maybe those are the people you don't want to meet anyways.
I'm pretty sure that if you are a good person, that you'll have plenty of 'recommends' from people and if you're not, you won't have any and if someone has been on the site for 5 years without any 'recommends' then maybe there's an issue and you should use caution when meeting them.
And for newbies who don't have a seal because they're new, I'm sure they won't have a problem meeting someone and getting a seal someday.
Look, if you don't like the system, DON'T USE IT. But for others, it will be an extra tool in their arsenal to help them find QUALITY members whether it be for sex or friendship. THAT'S IT. Get over it.
This system is in use by other websites and they label it as their CERTIFIED member programs. It is their version of the REAL and VIP seal. This is nothing different, just a different label. They've been using this system for ages and it works just fine.
So take it for what it's worth and look at it as a tool and if you have a problem with it, then don't use it.
We're in.
I'm going for the highest count on the site and will give a blowjob to anyone who gives me a positive seal. You clique-ish groups that plan to give each other lotsa points--Take that, Bitches! ~~Giggling as I slink off for a fun date tonight completely unrelated to this site -- hey, can I have my points mailed in?~~
(the Mrs)
~~Giggling as I slink off for a fun date tonight completely unrelated to this site -- hey, can I have my points mailed in?~~ (the Mrs)We figure if ya dont like it you dont have to use it. personally the comments will still be more important than the seal to us but we also dont see what it can hurt having it there. Its not like anyone is going to post negative comments on their profile so its just adding a physical seal to the one implied by the comment itself!
Now less talking and more cracking of the seal folks lol get to kinkin
Now less talking and more cracking of the seal folks lol get to kinkin
UCANTOUCHMYMONKY wrote:So your serious someone should give personal identification over to anyone related to being a swinger, come on, people hack medical records, I could see someone taking this information and printing a page in the daily newspaper listing all of us, a good caption might be watch your children one may live close to you, if people had to do that this site would be empty, my point is the system we have now works well enough without complicating it. This is the best site (as you said) so should we mess with it over trivial stuff like proving a male is a male or who did what to who. In my opinion all we are doing is preventing newcomers from joining and nothing more, whenever I read a forum I try to keep that in mind. This site has great guidelines, couldn't find better administrators. All I can see happening here is this dividing people, causing confusion and making the administrators jobs more difficult, anyone ever thought how much more time they are going to spend answering emails trying to explain this, not now but in the future, in my opinion its not necessary, probably adds unneeded costs to the site, takes up band with and server space, sorry but I don't see any benefit at all for anyone, so if you want to call me a sheep for pointing that out then baaaaa, good on you.
Sounds like some of the Sheeple are afraid of change. hmm, that's weird
I like the way most of this site works. But I can
UCANTOUCHMYMONKY wrote:
So you're asking if there is a repeal the real seal deal in this spiel?
Good god that was funny!!!!
ok we have our stamp, who can we approve of? lol
UCANTOUCHMYMONKY
Don't take it personal, you do have some great Ideas and I know you have the best interest for the site up front, I have read your stuff and wonder if your trying to piss us off or playing, not a lot different than me, so maybe we just keep each other in check sometimes, don't stop what your doing your passionate about it. Someday we can have a drink over it and laugh. I do ask that you drop personal information being given for any reason, it would end up in the wrong hands and be the death of this site, we both have to much fun to let that happen. PEACE
Don't take it personal, you do have some great Ideas and I know you have the best interest for the site up front, I have read your stuff and wonder if your trying to piss us off or playing, not a lot different than me, so maybe we just keep each other in check sometimes, don't stop what your doing your passionate about it. Someday we can have a drink over it and laugh. I do ask that you drop personal information being given for any reason, it would end up in the wrong hands and be the death of this site, we both have to much fun to let that happen. PEACE
UCANTOUCHMYMONKY wrote:Honestly they were here and hiding when we started and don't see how to get rid of them, personally know of 2 posing as a couple but can't do anything about it. Just deal with the truth when it comes out, we have a few single males as friends and for the most part never had a major problem with one, they seem to burn their own bridges in time anyway.
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It's just an idea for single males who would want somebody to vouch for them that they are not actually some married guy or just got out of prison
A really bad, bad idea.
Everything on this site is arrayed against Solo Males in the first place, so why not take away the verification we had to get by actually meeting someone who was a paid member? Brilliant idea! Stop serving a segment of the population who pay you for access, because you don't like them. Why stop there? How about making the software work in such a way that Solo Males are not permitted to send anyone messages? Is that next? Why not just delete all the profiles of all the Solo Males! I'm sure that would make all the people who think "swinging" is 'one man, lying in a bed with two women, watching them go at it' very happy...
Here's an idea... try living up to the concept that the people who pay for something ought not to be discriminated against. No, wait... What am I thinking? That's too difficult for most people.
Here's an idea... try living up to the concept that the people who pay for something ought not to be discriminated against. No, wait... What am I thinking? That's too difficult for most people.
Hey, does this SEAL thing work as a chastity device as well? I get so sick of my hubby poppin' a boner looking at all the sexy ladies around here. Or is it a different kind of seal than what I use for canning? 
THEBIGANSWER wrote:
Seals and dead cats? What the hell is happening to the site? Lol. I'm with ya monkey. If the SM's would just be patient, along with honest and respectable, then good things would cum your way. I haven't had much of a problem. Maybe that's because I have realistic expectations and understand you aren't the shopper but rather the produce. Sit on the shelf and try not to rot. You're not going to get laid 6 days a week. Well, sometimes maybe.
"understand you aren't the shopper but rather the produce. Sit on the shelf and try not to rot."
We love some sm, but that's hilarious.... Good one
If I "pop a boner", will that affect my seal-ability??? LOL!
DIMEADOZEN wrote:Actually, I believe that's a part of the rating system. How many consecutive seals will fit on your boner. Six-seal boners and above are highly prized, at least by this girl. (ow gawd, here come the haters -- I KNOW -- I'm just so shallow ... heh-heh, well if I'm so "shallow" how come ... oh hell, never mind!)
If I "pop a boner", will that affect my seal-ability??? LOL!
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:roflmao -- Don't they say that you should always stretch BEFORE vigorous exercise?
Q: What did the six seal boner say to the lady that said she is shallow? A: Now that's a stretch.
we are not nearly sessy enough for the mushroom stamp of approval lol
Has anyone actually got the seal to work yet? I tried, no luck.
I feel MUCH better having this seal of approval ...
SASSYGRL05 wrote:
I'm still waiting to get approved
Will this seal do?
SASSYGRL05 wrote:
Lol I didnt mention seal for a reason. I simply said i am waiting to get approved.
ok, you want this seal:
SASSYGRL05 wrote:
Lol I didnt mention seal for a reason. I simply said i am waiting to get approved.
Cher, you have our approval. Go forth and have fun.
TOOELE2WANTSU wrote:SASSYGRL05 wrote:
I'm still waiting to get approved
well, we would, but we're still just newbies so the sessy people don't listen to us..lol
The sessy people can go fuck themselves. Come to think of it, they probably do. Besides we prefer sexy to sessy, so ya'll got our approval too. Go forth and do likewise.
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SASSYGRL05 wrote:
I'm still waiting to get approved
I approve you as being real as the come!!!
Hubby and I were gonna do it on the beach so I'd popped off my shirt and he'd dropped his drawers. I'm not quite sure, but is this what the new seal of approval looks like? Or just a good laugh at our expense? 
we all ready have a comment space on are profiles why do we need more if you have positave comments just add the seal
This program sounds promising!!! We are on board!!!