(M) I do have some questions.
We feel that too many people that do want to hook up as a couple only do it so they can meet the female half and that thier wives are not interested in the male half and just going along with it.
So my question to the couples that do this are...
1. Do you plan in advance how your going to trick the other couple into doing this?
2. What thrills you the most, that hour taking andvntage of the woman, or do you think it's funny that the male is patiently waiting to be involved?
3. When it's all over do you go home and laugh at us, feeling like you accomplished anything or made any kind of friends?
4. Are there notches on your headboard for the accomplishments you made?
I don't understand why people can't be honest in what they are looking for. This is mild compared to some of the things we have experienced. If you want a third person, then persue that. Sure it may take more time to find it but if you do it properly there might be a second time with someone instead of a one time cheap shot and run.
Well I know you won't answer but sure there are a number of couples that might want to express their opinion. Maybe that will open your eyes to the real world and you can see what kind of people you really are.
We feel that too many people that do want to hook up as a couple only do it so they can meet the female half and that thier wives are not interested in the male half and just going along with it.
So my question to the couples that do this are...
1. Do you plan in advance how your going to trick the other couple into doing this?
2. What thrills you the most, that hour taking andvntage of the woman, or do you think it's funny that the male is patiently waiting to be involved?
3. When it's all over do you go home and laugh at us, feeling like you accomplished anything or made any kind of friends?
4. Are there notches on your headboard for the accomplishments you made?
I don't understand why people can't be honest in what they are looking for. This is mild compared to some of the things we have experienced. If you want a third person, then persue that. Sure it may take more time to find it but if you do it properly there might be a second time with someone instead of a one time cheap shot and run.
Well I know you won't answer but sure there are a number of couples that might want to express their opinion. Maybe that will open your eyes to the real world and you can see what kind of people you really are.
We have only had one experience where someone really wanted to just be with my wife. The female half on the other side was point blank that she wasn't interested, but she'd do it so he could be with my wife. What a confidence boost that was for me...
It's rude to the other couple, and sets a bad precedent for you as a couple...
It's rude to the other couple, and sets a bad precedent for you as a couple...
SPEXDEX wrote:So is that considered taking one for the team then? Was it acceptable to you?
We have only had one experience where someone really wanted to just be with my wife. The female half on the other side was point blank that she wasn't interested, but she'd do it so he could be with my wife. What a confidence boost that was for me...
It's rude to the other couple, and sets a bad precedent for you as a couple...
Rules for swinging and being happy.
1. Never take one for the team.
2. Never ask/expect/guilt your other half to take one for the team.
3. Make sure your other half is enjoying themselves and if you find they are being left out don't be a fucking moron and ignore them. It's ok to call a time out and get your significant half into the action. If your SO is blatently being ignored/rejected....END THE PLAYDATE.
For fuck's sake...it's bad enough that the couple/single is disrespecting your partner. You not doing anything about it makes you even worse.
xox
Tammy
1. Never take one for the team.
2. Never ask/expect/guilt your other half to take one for the team.
3. Make sure your other half is enjoying themselves and if you find they are being left out don't be a fucking moron and ignore them. It's ok to call a time out and get your significant half into the action. If your SO is blatently being ignored/rejected....END THE PLAYDATE.
For fuck's sake...it's bad enough that the couple/single is disrespecting your partner. You not doing anything about it makes you even worse.
xox
Tammy
UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY wrote:SPEXDEX wrote:So is that considered taking one for the team then? Was it acceptable to you?
We have only had one experience where someone really wanted to just be with my wife. The female half on the other side was point blank that she wasn't interested, but she'd do it so he could be with my wife. What a confidence boost that was for me...
It's rude to the other couple, and sets a bad precedent for you as a couple...
No it was not. We didn't get in to be anyone's "pity fuck". Knowing that a person I would potentially have sex would just be making the grocery lists while I attempt to please her...no thanks. I'd never ask my wife to just lay there and let someone do that to her either.
Agreeed spexdex , this if why its so hard to find, that couple to play with, we enjoy both of you two very much and look forward to seeing u each time. We have meet plenty of pepole, that we like but would never play with for,a number of reasons ahhhhhhh this getting one of them. If we, want to just get off we have vibrators for that. We value our freinds and i'm sure there, can be,a wam bam thank u ma'am but there still has to be a mutual atraction to please everyone involved. Fore those that only want a notch in the belt you should be able to tell that pretty fast like blueeyes said, if, you, sit there and that what toy want then fine, but hells, bells off you , either get in, or one or get going . I would never just let my wife sit there and watch or be left out of the action or would she me unless that, what, we were looking for, in that situation.
DDRIVER03 wrote:
Agreeed spexdex , this if why its so hard to find, that couple to play with, we enjoy both of you two very much and look forward to seeing u each time. We have meet plenty of O'Toole, that we like but would never play with for,a number of reasons ahhhhhhh this getting one of them. If we, wants to just get off we have vibrators for that. We value our freinds and i'm sure there, can be,a wam bam thank u ma'am but there still has to be a mutual atraction to please everyone involved. Fore those that only want a notch in the belt you should be able to tell that pretty fast like blueeyes said, if, you, sit there and that what toy want then fine, but hells, bells off you , either get in, or one or get going . I would never just let my wife sit there and watch or be left out of the action or would she me unless that, what, we were looking for, in that situation.
Thank you! Hopefully you guys could tell no one is getting ignored! We enjoy our times we get to hang out as well. Just like you, I just can imagine leaving my better half to someone she doesn't want to be with, or with someone that doesn't really want to enjoy all she has to offer!
we met a couple like that once. while the hubby was in the bathroom, the wife confessed that she only does it for him. that was a deal breaker for us. needless to say, we didn't play with that couple. if we had know that in advance, we could have avoided wasting everybody's time.
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
Rules for swinging and being happy. 1. Never take one for the team. 2. Never ask/expect/guilt your other half to take one for the team. 3. Make sure your other half is enjoying themselves and if you find they are being left out don't be a fucking moron and ignore them. It's ok to call a time out and get your significant half into the action. If your SO is blatantly being ignored/rejected....END THE PLAYDATE. For fuck's sake...it's bad enough that the couple/single is disrespecting your partner. You not doing anything about it makes you even worst. xox Tammy
You actually expect people to act like grownups?
Well, I thought of a number of other smart ass answers but this is too real to mess with. I understand that there are a number of players out there that play alone simply because it is too difficult to find a match couple to couple.
Personally that
(M) I don't have a problem with someone telling me they are not interested but would still like to play with my wife, no problem I don't mind, but even then it's her decision to make and not theres or mine. She should not find out after the fact what had happened, she gets caught up in the fun and doesn't realize. She told me to never let that happen again, stop everything and ask them to politely leave, what a woman, LOL
CANDJ23 wrote:
we met a couple like that once. while the hubby was in the bathroom, the wife confessed that she only does it for him. that was a deal breaker for us. needless to say, we didn't play with that couple. if we had know that in advance, we could have avoided wasting everybody's time.
That has happened to me a few times with different couples. At first I was hesitant to end things because I didn't want to get the male half pissed at his wife/gf. Then I realized I didn't want to fuck someone who was pushing her into it. Kinda a turn off to be playing with an air of resentment hanging over you.
these rules really help us....(all apply but #4 (Veto) is Key. Our rules may have stole some from others along the way.
1. NEVER without condoms.
2. We only PLAY together at the same event, place.
3. Either can VETO anyone or any place.(period)
4. WE always have sex with eachother before the night (day) ends.
5. NEVER do anything to anyone that you wouldn't want done to you or yours.
6. NEVER let another interfere with our love and trust for each other.
7. WE are just having FUN, when either is not having FUN we STOP.
8. NO secrets.
9. PLAY nice.
10.ALWAYS think safety and know where eachother are.
1. NEVER without condoms.
2. We only PLAY together at the same event, place.
3. Either can VETO anyone or any place.(period)
4. WE always have sex with eachother before the night (day) ends.
5. NEVER do anything to anyone that you wouldn't want done to you or yours.
6. NEVER let another interfere with our love and trust for each other.
7. WE are just having FUN, when either is not having FUN we STOP.
8. NO secrets.
9. PLAY nice.
10.ALWAYS think safety and know where eachother are.
TINKERDORK wrote:Add one. Aalways go home together and have a good laugh, good or bad. Then fuck each others brains out.
these rules really help us....(all apply but #4 (Veto) is Key. Our rules may have stole some from others along the way.
1. NEVER without condoms.
2. We only PLAY together at the same event, place.
3. Either can VETO anyone or any place.(period)
4. WE always have sex with eachother before the night (day) ends.
5. NEVER do anything to anyone that you wouldn't want done to you or yours.
6. NEVER let another interfere with our love and trust for each other.
7. WE are just having FUN, when either is not having FUN we STOP.
8. NO secrets.
9. PLAY nice.
10.ALWAYS think safety and know where eachother are.
AGEDTOPERFECTION wrote:BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
Rules for swinging and being happy.
1. Never take one for the team.
2. Never ask/expect/guilt your other half to take one for the team.
3. Make sure your other half is enjoying themselves and if you find they are being left out don't be a fucking moron and ignore them. It's ok to call a time out and get your significant half into the action. If your SO is blatently being ignored/rejected....END THE PLAYDATE.
For fuck's sake...it's bad enough that the couple/single is disrespecting your partner. You not doing anything about it makes you even worse.
xox
Tammy
We could not have said it better. "THANK YOU"
Wow, let it go the first time but not twice.
So you think I'm a dumb fuck and it's my fault, thanks for the support, maybe all us dumb fucks that have made a mistake should leave and let the perfect ones stay and play with the couples that do this. Or do you have a hidden agenda we can't see. I have had to correct more problems than I care to think about but in the beginning we were taken advantage of. I didn't even realize it. So tell me, did you know how to handle every situation when you joined. Did you know all of the rules? The Lifestyle? Has you're experience clouded your memory? And if you want me to take you seriously in the first place tell me where the rules you have here can be found, I can't seem to find them anywhere, if you want to help direct me to them please?
Besides the only one that has the right to talk to me like that is my wife and not you. We delt with it just fine between us and that is all that matters in the end.
Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. This bait and switch bullshit is unfortunately more common than people think. People bitch and moan about SM's "not bringing anything to the table" but I would put forth that at least SM's are basically honest in that they aren't dangling their partner as bait so they can live out their little harem fantasy with some other guy's wife. We have a one strike and you're out policy. We talk to people before meeting and make sure that at least in principle they are ok with some type (even soft) of swap. If after meeting they pull the bait and switch and give us the usual bullshit excuses..."my wife is kind of shy and very nervous"..."she isn't quite ready to play with another man"..."she's having her period but I'd still like to play with your wife" and then ask for basically a threeway or just the other guy playing with Ms. Evil we get up and walk out. Now if we've played together with a couple and established a friendship and some trust then we are usually happy to make a threeway fantasy happen. FWIW
EVILDOERS
Most of the time in that instance there is no couple, just guy posing as couple.
Our first rule is nothing happens until the women talk on the phone, my wife can tell if she is being coached by someone on every question or is giving answers freely, if there is no excitement in her voice there is already something wrong.
Most of the time in that instance there is no couple, just guy posing as couple.
Our first rule is nothing happens until the women talk on the phone, my wife can tell if she is being coached by someone on every question or is giving answers freely, if there is no excitement in her voice there is already something wrong.
Why in the hell would anyone ever even CONSIDER leaving and missing all this drama?
CARRIERMANANDGEEKGIRL wrote:Not me, love to post and take a beating from the pro's. We were stood up tonight, maybe someone can tell me how that was my fault.
Why in the hell would anyone ever even CONSIDER leaving and missing all this drama?
Don't mind him.... He's just upset that he's not getting any tonight... lol
Thanks baby I love you to.
(M) Since no one was there and think they know what happened my wife was having a great time, she did not know what was going on and in no danger. She knows she doesn't have to watch out for me because I can take care of myself. She has never been left in a situation where she was being abused. To tell you the truth I enjoy watching my wife having a good time so it was not a total loss, we still went home and did each other, point is they knew what they were doing from the start, they had no intention of being 4.
so anyone keeping socre, so far I'm the bad guy in all of this.
The real problem here is there is no resolve to it, we can't say who did this and they are free to continue what they are doing and chase respectful couples away.
On the other hand I can try this and have my ass handed to me by the lifestyle gods with very little support or solid advice.
I'm just glad we learned what we know from the generation before us, best thing that ever happened was meeting a couple twice our age and taking us in. Their generation banded together when there was a problem not ripped each other apart. Just sayin, damn I like saying that.
You really should have done me tonight baby and shut me up, think we may be on the outside after this.
(M) Since no one was there and think they know what happened my wife was having a great time, she did not know what was going on and in no danger. She knows she doesn't have to watch out for me because I can take care of myself. She has never been left in a situation where she was being abused. To tell you the truth I enjoy watching my wife having a good time so it was not a total loss, we still went home and did each other, point is they knew what they were doing from the start, they had no intention of being 4.
so anyone keeping socre, so far I'm the bad guy in all of this.
The real problem here is there is no resolve to it, we can't say who did this and they are free to continue what they are doing and chase respectful couples away.
On the other hand I can try this and have my ass handed to me by the lifestyle gods with very little support or solid advice.
I'm just glad we learned what we know from the generation before us, best thing that ever happened was meeting a couple twice our age and taking us in. Their generation banded together when there was a problem not ripped each other apart. Just sayin, damn I like saying that.
You really should have done me tonight baby and shut me up, think we may be on the outside after this.
(F) I can understand how we get caught up in the action and not seeing there is a problem. I am enjoying myself, look over to my husband and he is watching what I am doing, then I look away, I do not stare at him to examine if he is having a good time. It is up to him to let me know if there is a problem.
I also understand that if plan on meeting a couple, we plan on playing with both the male and female. If the couple has a problem with playing with one of us and does not say anything until we get down and dirty, they are rude and disrespectful.
Also, I can not stand getting together with a couple and the man is more interested in watching his wife than pleasing me. And if my husband has his face burried in her pussy, I do not expect him to notice. It is up to me to tell him there is a problem.
I also understand that if plan on meeting a couple, we plan on playing with both the male and female. If the couple has a problem with playing with one of us and does not say anything until we get down and dirty, they are rude and disrespectful.
Also, I can not stand getting together with a couple and the man is more interested in watching his wife than pleasing me. And if my husband has his face burried in her pussy, I do not expect him to notice. It is up to me to tell him there is a problem.
PEBBLES2010
You guys rock.
You guys rock.
UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY:
To be honest, we have been stood up enough times that we now EXPECT it to happen.
We've exchanged e-mail and or phone calls with folks as close to an hour before agreed on meet time, and still, they were a no-show.
And, not so much as a phone call or e-mail explaining what happened - NOT EVEN AN APOLOGY - NOTHING.
It's happened from some of the last people we would have EVER expected it from.
So, as I say, we go into every arranged "meet" expecting the other couple to be a no-show.
If they do actually show up, then it becomes a pleasant surprise.
And yes, some of the no-shows were from those here on Swingular you refer to as the "pros".
To be honest, we have been stood up enough times that we now EXPECT it to happen.
We've exchanged e-mail and or phone calls with folks as close to an hour before agreed on meet time, and still, they were a no-show.
And, not so much as a phone call or e-mail explaining what happened - NOT EVEN AN APOLOGY - NOTHING.
It's happened from some of the last people we would have EVER expected it from.
So, as I say, we go into every arranged "meet" expecting the other couple to be a no-show.
If they do actually show up, then it becomes a pleasant surprise.
And yes, some of the no-shows were from those here on Swingular you refer to as the "pros".
(F) Agreed. Whether we are meeting a local couple, or we are in another state meeting a couple, it pisses me off when they are no shows. (UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY, we are looking forward to coming your way again!!!!!) Luv ya!
Hey girl... Don't encourage him or he'll never shut up... Luv ya too!! Can't wait till ya get here. Hope ya have another adventure for us. xoxo
You know, there is no bad guy/girl in all of this. It's a learning experience, and yes, all of us have had them. Anyone that hasn't is either full of shit, or just barely signed up in the past five minutes. The list of things you always/never do changes after almost every situation. Ts simple evolution. We are sorry for what happened to you guys, we have been there as well, all we can do is work toward avoiding it in the future.
I am thinking since you didn't stop the action it had some value for you? I mean isn't it hot to see your wife getting pleasure. I dont see how a couple can be expected to do both of you until things get going. It is a two way street.. If you had super desire for this gal she would have felt that and perhaps she sensed you were not into her so much. I still bet the night was a fun one. Perhaps better than staying at home and watching the Olympics live?
This game is so complex. Some gals don't want you to play much, others get pissed if you want to watch your hot wife play and don't give them your full attention.
Perhaps if you had dated this couple multiple times before considering going full you would have had some soft fun and found out that full was not going to work. I think expecting to hit a double home run is quite a bit to expect for many couples.
This game is so complex. Some gals don't want you to play much, others get pissed if you want to watch your hot wife play and don't give them your full attention.
Perhaps if you had dated this couple multiple times before considering going full you would have had some soft fun and found out that full was not going to work. I think expecting to hit a double home run is quite a bit to expect for many couples.
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SPEXDEX wrote:OMFG sombody gets it. Thank you. Truth is this did happen to us and wasn't a big deal, we posted because a decent couple is going to leave because it happened to them and they did not know how to handle it. So what is the score now pro's, am I catching up yet.
You know, there is no bad guy/girl in all of this. It's a learning experience, and yes, all of us have had them. Anyone that hasn't is either full of shit, or just barely signed up in the past five minutes. The list of things you always/never do changes after almost every situation. Ts simple evolution. We are sorry for what happened to you guys, we have been there as well, all we can do is work toward avoiding it in the future.
MAYBEMOR wrote:PEBBLES2010 are you still here, maybe you can help me with this one. Was a toss up between watching pawn stars on the history channel and that for me.
I am thinking since you didn't stop the action it had some value for you? I mean isn't it hot to see your wife getting pleasure. I dont see how a couple can be expected to do both of you until things get going. It is a two way street.. If you had super desire for this gal she would have felt that and perhaps she sensed you were not into her so much. I still bet the night was a fun one. Perhaps better than staying at home and watching the Olympics live?
This game is so complex. Some gals don't want you to play much, others get pissed if you want to watch your hot wife play and don't give them your full attention.
Perhaps if you had dated this couple multiple times before considering going full you would have had some soft fun and found out that full was not going to work. I think expecting to hit a double home run is quite a bit to expect for many couples.
UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY wrote:SPEXDEX wrote:OMFG sombody gets it. Thank you. Truth is this did happen to us and wasn't a big deal, we posted because a decent couple is going to leave because it happened to them and they did not know how to handle it. So what is the score now pro's, am I catching up yet.
You know, there is no bad guy/girl in all of this. It's a learning experience, and yes, all of us have had them. Anyone that hasn't is either full of shit, or just barely signed up in the past five minutes. The list of things you always/never do changes after almost every situation. Ts simple evolution. We are sorry for what happened to you guys, we have been there as well, all we can do is work toward avoiding it in the future.
I'm no old pro, but what I do know is this... If a couple goes into the lifestyle or situation having discussed possible outcomes and responses prior to the goings on, they'll be much better off. Obviously you can't plan for everything, but when shit happens, talk about it, and how it would be possible to avoid in future dealings. On the lighter note, keep track of the good experiences and what went well to try and make that a recurrent idea. I think that most people will find with a little time and communication, you'll have more positive than negative. Best of luck to the friends of yours in their decision.
To be totally honest we found ways to laugh about even the worst of situations, some I would be embarrassed to post because we were inexperienced and had no clue what was happening, it was still an adventure for us, but we do this together, it's for us, so we get through it with a laugh and start a new day. Hey we are still here. Well maybe not after this stunt, I'm getting glared at by the boss. A what the hell she cut me off last night anyway so not stoppin. Remember our first swing party, we parked outside the entrance and watched to see what kind of creatures came and went, really sucked because there were none, maybe that was the worst experience, was winter, we were cold and I did not even get to see any skin.
You Reap What You Sow.
Humm
So criticize like you.
Or try to help and encourage like me.
Guess I resemble that.
I apologize for getting it wrong, let's see you said "fucking moron"
I will make a note of that thanks for your help.
Humm
So criticize like you.
Or try to help and encourage like me.
Guess I resemble that.
I apologize for getting it wrong, let's see you said "fucking moron"
I will make a note of that thanks for your help.
(F) Ok, so there are several ways to see this. Lets try this, from my personal experiences.
We are approached by a couple where the man can not play, but he wants to make sure his wife is happy and he is happy watching. They openly told us about this before meeting. Thats cool, it was our choice, not a surprise during the visit.
Then there is the time when we met for dinner with a couple. I really was not feeling it for the man, but hubby thought the lady was cute. We (as a couple) told them it was not going to work out.
So these are times when everyone is still clothed, and can choose before insulting anyone person.
The original posting on this thread sounds like nothing negative was said, everyone got undressed expecting to play together, then one pair start playing, and boom the other female (in this case) says no. The male was then faced with embarrassment and disappointment. Sure he can enjoy watching his wife, and because he is not forced into unwanted sex it really is not "taking one for the team".
The female who did not discuss the dislike with her husband was in the wrong. Yes she has the right to say no, but when we say no it should no cause harm to someone else also. She should have handled it differently. It should have been discussed BEFORE clothes were removed.
She was CORRECT to say "no", but she should have said it sooner.
In the end, no one was physically harmed, just has hurt feelings. All is ok.
We are approached by a couple where the man can not play, but he wants to make sure his wife is happy and he is happy watching. They openly told us about this before meeting. Thats cool, it was our choice, not a surprise during the visit.
Then there is the time when we met for dinner with a couple. I really was not feeling it for the man, but hubby thought the lady was cute. We (as a couple) told them it was not going to work out.
So these are times when everyone is still clothed, and can choose before insulting anyone person.
The original posting on this thread sounds like nothing negative was said, everyone got undressed expecting to play together, then one pair start playing, and boom the other female (in this case) says no. The male was then faced with embarrassment and disappointment. Sure he can enjoy watching his wife, and because he is not forced into unwanted sex it really is not "taking one for the team".
The female who did not discuss the dislike with her husband was in the wrong. Yes she has the right to say no, but when we say no it should no cause harm to someone else also. She should have handled it differently. It should have been discussed BEFORE clothes were removed.
She was CORRECT to say "no", but she should have said it sooner.
In the end, no one was physically harmed, just has hurt feelings. All is ok.
Hey didn't you guys play with my wife and I was not there, shame on you.
Your close with that girl, but it really had no affect on us at all, wife did not have a clue until it was over, hey I can always find something to do that is why they call me lefty. But when a good couple gets chased of because of this it really pisses me off, no one has said lets string the fuckers up that did this they want me to hang myself.
O shit, here she comes, better go watter the lawn, sorry if I pissed on anyones ego's, I'm not taking any of this seriously, just bored and needed something to to.
Bet the boss will think twice about cutting me off again, later.
Your close with that girl, but it really had no affect on us at all, wife did not have a clue until it was over, hey I can always find something to do that is why they call me lefty. But when a good couple gets chased of because of this it really pisses me off, no one has said lets string the fuckers up that did this they want me to hang myself.
O shit, here she comes, better go watter the lawn, sorry if I pissed on anyones ego's, I'm not taking any of this seriously, just bored and needed something to to.
Bet the boss will think twice about cutting me off again, later.
hhhmmmm... if everyone is honest in thier intentions there shouldn't have to be all the bullshit in between. Being a single female I would not want to play with a couple/single if all were not on board and being included. I have been left out of a situation, didn't feel that great but I also had to ask myself if I included myself. (This is just for me, not pointing no fingers). I think there can be many games and bullshit if people aren't honest. Unfortunatly for the couples, and I can only suggest as I am a single female, talk, talk, talk and while playing always be mindful of your partner. Even just eye contact or a safe word if there is a problem. Just my two cents... for what its worth.
If we recall correctly, you were to tired to come out and play.
As newbies, this was pretty informative to read. Gives us a little idea of things to watch for.
UTARD61 wrote:
As newbies, this was pretty informative to read. Gives us a little idea of things to watch for.
Yes, you made this worth my time. If I only helped one it was worth sticking my foot in my mouth. Don't let this happen to you, stick around and enjoy, it has been a fun ride for us.
But watch out for the Lifestyle God's, I still have not been told where they keep that rule book that was posted 4 or 5 times, thought I asked politely to see it. O well, maybe you should throw those out and write some of your own, or have your 6 yr. old do it, bet it would make more sense to me.
Correcting myself, should have gotten some sleep
TINKERDORK Had some rules I could not find also, but if you haven't found any yourself that's a great place to start.
PEBBLES2010 wrote:
If we recall correctly, you were to tired to come out and play.
Well thanks for telling everyone 2 nights were more than I could stand, next time we go out into the desert might just leave you there. Go a little easy on me next time.
lol, Well that sounds like fun....... I can think of some kinky things to do out there. Now I know next time we meet...... I will bring a bag of toys, for when you desert us..... lol And you just told everyone it was 2 nights..... Smooch, miss you guys!
UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY wrote:CARRIERMANANDGEEKGIRL wrote:Not me, love to post and take a beating from the pro's. We were stood up tonight, maybe someone can tell me how that was my fault.
Why in the hell would anyone ever even CONSIDER leaving and missing all this drama?
Been there, done that. Thats why we quit on a regular basis but we always come back. Sorry if that makes us look flaky but shutting down my profile is my form of passive aggressive ranting. Not very effective, huh? lol
Yeah, it DOES make you look flaky.
And that's why you fit in so well.
Welcum back.
P.S.
Did ya bring the raisins?
And that's why you fit in so well.
Welcum back.
P.S.
Did ya bring the raisins?
We started learning the lifestyle a year before sticking a foot in, thought we were prepared for anything. We were so wrong. Our expectations were huge. After being shot down time after time or expectations went to 0. We put on a suit of armor so not to be taken advantage of. Even now we make mistakes and someone tries to use us. Don't believe if you read enough of this shit it won't happen to you.
Watch out for your partner , when shit happens stop play and work it out, only you can make a decision how to handle it, not a bunch of babbling idiots like myself.
I am a shit at times but meant no harm to anyone, I wish everyone could enjoy the lifestyle like we have, We love each other and do this for fun and pleasure, no one separate us or do more harm than we allow. When serious about meeting someone our boundaries are sent in detail and we expect the same In return. There have been times when boundaries were not given in return like asked this is where we failed in the beginning, every time we let it slide there was trouble. When they were given we could be playing in 10 minutes without a problem.
We play separately because it is difficult to match 4 people. We don't have to become best friends to enjoy sex. We have friends and are here for sex plain and simple, friendships have come about but that's not our goal. We have met people of all colors shapes and sizes, we learned to look past the skin to see what is inside, that is where the fun is, so take some chances and widen your scope, perfect looks are no guarantee of great sex. Our best experiences were created with plain every day people, the ones with hopes and dreams who accept everyone as equals until proven wrong.
Do not be afraid to walk out or ask someone to leave, if boundaries were defined and crossed they know what happened and no explanation is necessary.
Sorry hun, I drive you crazy but you still love me, tell me when you read this and I will make it up to you in a special way, time for me to turn my attention to you. Thanks for putting up with me.
Watch out for your partner , when shit happens stop play and work it out, only you can make a decision how to handle it, not a bunch of babbling idiots like myself.
I am a shit at times but meant no harm to anyone, I wish everyone could enjoy the lifestyle like we have, We love each other and do this for fun and pleasure, no one separate us or do more harm than we allow. When serious about meeting someone our boundaries are sent in detail and we expect the same In return. There have been times when boundaries were not given in return like asked this is where we failed in the beginning, every time we let it slide there was trouble. When they were given we could be playing in 10 minutes without a problem.
We play separately because it is difficult to match 4 people. We don't have to become best friends to enjoy sex. We have friends and are here for sex plain and simple, friendships have come about but that's not our goal. We have met people of all colors shapes and sizes, we learned to look past the skin to see what is inside, that is where the fun is, so take some chances and widen your scope, perfect looks are no guarantee of great sex. Our best experiences were created with plain every day people, the ones with hopes and dreams who accept everyone as equals until proven wrong.
Do not be afraid to walk out or ask someone to leave, if boundaries were defined and crossed they know what happened and no explanation is necessary.
Sorry hun, I drive you crazy but you still love me, tell me when you read this and I will make it up to you in a special way, time for me to turn my attention to you. Thanks for putting up with me.
Can I just add to this. I am so sick of all these people that say they are swingers and have "just want to have fun" on their profile and then you get to know them and they tell you "Well, the female half doesn't like to play with other males until she gets to know them". Well, I got so sick of all the mfemale halves of the couple that we were supposed to text and get to know like 2000 times before there was a chance in hell we could all play together........... If ever? This site is "SWINGular"! For swingers! Not couples looking for another woman to add to the mix!!!
I mean, I am all for getting to know ppl, but seriously! I am on here for sex!!! Not lifelong friends!
I mean, I am all for getting to know ppl, but seriously! I am on here for sex!!! Not lifelong friends!
007HOTTIE wrote:
Can I just add to this. I am so sick of all these people that say they are swingers and have "just want to have fun" on their profile and then you get to know them and they tell you "Well, the female half doesn't like to play with other males until she gets to know them". Well, I got so sick of all the mfemale halves of the couple that we were supposed to text and get to know like 2000 times before there was a chance in hell we could all play together........... If ever? This site is "SWINGular"! For swingers! Not couples looking for another woman to add to the mix!!!
I mean, I am all for getting to know ppl, but seriously! I am on here for sex!!! Not lifelong friends!
we're up for that!
UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY wrote:
(M) I do have some questions.
We feel that too many people that do want to hook up as a couple only do it so they can meet the female half and that thier wives are not interested in the male half and just going along with it.
So my question to the couples that do this are...
1. Do you plan in advance how your going to trick the other couple into doing this?
2. What thrills you the most, that hour taking andvntage of the woman, or do you think it's funny that the male is patiently waiting to be involved?
3. When it's all over do you go home and laugh at us, feeling like you accomplished anything or made any kind of friends?
4. Are there notches on your headboard for the accomplishments you made?
I don't understand why people can't be honest in what they are looking for. This is mild compared to some of the things we have experienced. If you want a third person, then persue that. Sure it may take more time to find it but if you do it properly there might be a second time with someone instead of a one time cheap shot and run.
Well I know you won't answer but sure there are a number of couples that might want to express their opinion. Maybe that will open your eyes to the real world and you can see what kind of people you really are.
it happened to us once. felt used, cheap, disrespected. luckily it didn't go very far before we left, was amazed that someone could do that. right up until the last minute we were lead to believe it everyone was to be involved, only after things started happening did the real intentions come out.
LOVESTOHUNT wrote:007HOTTIE wrote:
Can I just add to this. I am so sick of all these people that say they are swingers and have "just want to have fun" on their profile and then you get to know them and they tell you "Well, the female half doesn't like to play with other males until she gets to know them". Well, I got so sick of all the mfemale halves of the couple that we were supposed to text and get to know like 2000 times before there was a chance in hell we could all play together........... If ever? This site is "SWINGular"! For swingers! Not couples looking for another woman to add to the mix!!!
I mean, I am all for getting to know ppl, but seriously! I am on here for sex!!! Not lifelong friends!
we're up for that!
Friends happen but like you we are here to fuck, but not use someone in the process.
So far we have not had the nightmare experiences we have seen described in this discussion. Not quite sure why but we meet couples for a meal or drinks, and in most cases end up having sex, or scheduling something for later. Maybe it is the screening process we use, not completely sure but we have met some awesome couples and had a great time with them. We are looking forward to meeting many more so hopefully it continues to work for us. Some of those couples have become very good friends, not a requirement, just a bonus! Good luck in your searches!