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So, when I was younger I didn't care about my body it was fine, now I am older I have had a c-section, I am not skinny, and I am very self consious. How do you deal with that? It doesn't help that hubby is gorgeous either lol :p
Mrs Sins has the C-section scar also, she hates it, but that comes with having kids, trust it, that a lot of us are not superficial to down someone about things like that
Ha! I appreciate that! I do, I agree also it's not that I look at others that way, I think I am a very harsh judge of myself, honestly can't help but compare myself and feel like I don't measure up.
I think a lot of women do, on here, in the Vannilla life, woman need to cut their self sum slack, each woman is beautiful in their own way, I mean look, we only see a pic off your ass, and i can imagine that a lot will agree that is hott, smile, and love yourself :)
I dont want to offend anyone on here but I am one of those guys that can find something beutiful in anyone so the body thing doesnt bother me at all. My wife had a tummy tuck a few years ago and I have never complained once before she had it done but it made her feel better. Now here in a couple of months she is getting a breast enhancement. In my opinion does she need it. Hell no but its what she wants and will make her feel better. My opinion just do what makes you feel comfortable with.
Sound like a common thing. Mrs. Utard61 is very self conscious as well. We are just entering into this and she is very worried about people judging her. I think once someone else lets her know how beautiful she is inside and out, she'll feel much more comfortable. Neither of us have the bodies we had when we first met, but we're both started working on getting back to as close as we can.
Measure up to what? If you're happy in your own skin then that's all that matters. If you're not happy then change whatever you need to change to become happy. Life is too short for regrets or for second guessing yourself.
I don't like the way I look, but others have said that they do. I remind myself that everyone has some physical flaw that they don't like, nobody has a perfect body, and that I just need to move on with life.
Well, it's good to know I am not alone, I wish I could afford a tummy tuck! I think that scar has probably been the worst for my self esteem! I have never been a little girl, but before the scar I didn't care! I know I like a girl with a little meat on her bones personally! Maybe, part of it too is that guys are somewhat new to me, and I'm not sure what boys like? I mean I have been there and done that obviously, but until I met my hubby, they were not an everyday thing for me,I just played with them. Much to the mr's delight I had about the knowledge of a teenage girl. The whole body thing is hard, because it's not like I know much about what boys like either :(
FUCKADOODLEDOO wrote:

Like I have said before you can be beautiful and perfect on the outside but if your ugly inside your gonna be ugly outside.
Gina


A perfect comment right there!!! That's what I keep telling the Mrs.!!!!
I personally like a woman with curves, that's what make you a woman! I love the hour glass figure myself, but that just my opinion!
Ok so I hear you all and I agree, but my actual question was really aimed more at when that moment comes, how do you deal with is? What makes you feel better?
I get more nervous when it comes to playing or
even meeting women, because, let's
face it all women judge even if it's,
I do or don't like her shoes, hair,.dress, etc
We need to cut our selves some slack,
I know I don't have a great body,
But I have so much more to offer,
I figure you win some you lose some
"if you can't accept me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best"
I get more nervous when it comes to playing or
even meeting women, because, let's
face it all women judge even if it's,
I do or don't like her shoes, hair,.dress, etc
We need to cut our selves some slack,
I know I don't have a great body,
But I have so much more to offer,
I figure you win some you lose some
"if you can't accept me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best"
We have been Together for more years than some Here have been around. We have had Great Sex since day one. We have had operations to have Children Delivered,(C section 3 times)and Parts to be replaced. One Hip and Two Knees. Even had a Bout with the Big C. The number one thing I see in Her is not that Woman with some extra weight, Scars or Wrinkles. I see a woman who's body tells a story, a very interesting one at that. You will never quit being Self Conscious until you realize you are the "Most Important Person You Know". Live and Worry less. It does make a Big Difference latter in life.
Scorpion... I know a lot of women have some outfit, nightie, or something that they think looks good on them, that they feel comfortable in, and that covers up some of the things they'd rather camouflage. When the time comes for that to come off, the lights are pretty dim, or they realize those items are not the focus of attention any more (not that they really ever were, but....) Find something you feel like you look hot in. If you think its hot, the rest of us will too!
We all have our concerns of image. Luckily we have found that most don't care as much as you think. The ones that do typically aren't worth getting to know. We are the types that can enjoy the body for the beauty it has, and not what we think it should be. If you feel good about you, everyone else that matters will too! Enjoy yourself, and focus on that, everything works itself out, pun intended. ;)
I'm definitely showing this thread to my wife when she gets home tonight!!!!
SPEXDEX wrote:

We all have our concerns of image. Luckily we have found that most don't care as much as you think. The ones that do typically aren't worth getting to know. We are the types that can enjoy the body for the beauty it has, and not what we think it should be. If you feel good about you, everyone else that matters will too! Enjoy yourself, and focus on that, everything works itself out, pun intended. ;)


Absolutely! That said though..that it really dosen't matter to most partners or potential partners as much as you think. I have noticed most women are worried about that "tummy" that seems to never go away. Most seem to just wear something that covers it..(pull your shirt down..instead of off, etc) and forge ahead! Soon you'll figure out..it really dosen't matter!
Women aren't the only ones concerned about their looks and maybe getting shy. The older I get the less I like the way I look. So her question was what does she do about it when she does get the shyness. My best advice - put it out there - fake a little confidence. Believe me, except for maybe the Sessy People, whatever the hell that group is, we ALL have imperfections. We're going to look at you and wish some little thing about us was more like what you have anyway. Once you start showing your confidence you WILL feel more confident. It just works that way. Yeah, it does.

Mr. Sexperimentors
I have never had that problem. But I can say that the only way I have found to get past something is to make up my mind to get past it and work on it until I do. I can not tell anyone that it is easy to get past a problem. It would be like telling a smoker that it is easy to quit. I can tell you that most men will not judge you as harshly as you judge your self because that is not what we men have been taught to do.

In general men and women are judged by different standards in our American society. A woman is taught that it is by her looks that she will make her way in the world and a man is taught it is by how much he makes. It is a sad fact that neither standard really represents the truth or reflects the friendships that are most important to most of us.

If all you wish to do is hop into bed with someone for a couple of hours and never see them again, then what does it matter? If on the other hand you make friends and as friends decide to hop into bed then the imperfections become little or nothing and matter not at all.
This is a great question. Every day when I see myself naked I can only see what I have too much, or not enough of. I compare myself to the thin, fake boob, porn star type bodies and wonder how the hell could anyone find me attractive enough to fuck. I used to have a lot more confidence about my curves before going to these parties and seeing so many women with the "perfect" body.

My big question is this: How do you get past the fact that the wife in a couple is WAY hotter than you are? Women DO judge other women more harshly, and the thought of being so unevenly paired has kept me from MANY threesomes. I want to hear from those hot wives who play with women heavier than they are.
I have had 3 C-Sections, and no matter how many times the mister tells me im beautiful, I spent a majority of my life not having any body issues, it is hard to get used to when you weren't born that way! I am a few lbs heavier too, so that never helps!!
Dim the lights down or light a few candles and relax and know your beautiful inside and out ;)
Picturegirl- when I was younger ans a single I literally measured the same as Barbie! I knew I was beautiful then! I use to hook up with couples where I knew I was the more attractive one, but the thing is it was never a thing for me, all women are beautiful to me (excluding myself) I don't know why I am so insecure now lol knowing how I felt then.
My C-section scar is a badge of honor... 2 babies I never thought I'd get. Cancer a few years later. Then an appendectomy... Nothing I do will ever make the silly tummy pooch go away. Scars are part of my history... They are why I am Who I am...

I usually deal with my body insecurities by being the first one naked at most house parties. It's just how I deal with it... get it over with as soon as possible.

And I find that I'm attracted to heavyset women for that reason.... The Like it Or Leave it attitude that many of them develop attracts me so much more than plastic perfection
SCORPIONFROG wrote:

Ha! I appreciate that! I do, I agree also it's not that I look at others that way, I think I am a very harsh judge of myself, honestly can't help but compare myself and feel like I don't measure up.


I so understand exactly what you are talking about. I am no barbie, I am not obese but I still have hang ups on my body. I see other women, how freaking beautiful they are and can't help compare. I have thought that I would like to find a man in the lifestyle to have fun with, but dam it, I can't get past letting them get to know me, for the physical imperfections. So tell me, how do others deal with it. I have been with couples where the ladies are just comfortable being who they are.. they also have a man who reafirms that they are the one. I hate this part about myself. So suggestions would be great.
CJ
For us what helped was being with very respectful guys. After our first time playing, what I still remember Reina talking about was how he had made her feel sexy and desired. It is one thing when your hubby tells you, because she hears it daily from me...its a whole different thing when good looking guy tells you you are sexy...It wasn't just a quick into the sack kind of play night. He sat by her on the couch and flirted with her and showed her she was interested and that really helped put her mind at ease...and I think the alcohol had a part in that too.....lol. So find a couple or a single guy who thinks you are sexy....I know there are many guys out there like me who would much rather be with a girl with some nice curves and some meat on her bones anyway. :)

Papi
SCORPIONFROG, I get what you're asking - how do you deal with your personal insecurities about your appearance - especially when it's time to be visible. I think the answer really starts long before you get to the point that your clothes are coming off. You have to prepare yourself mentally and I think there are at least two ways you can do that. First, you need to be at least satisfied with yourself if not thrilled with your appearance. If you constantly tell yourself you're ugly - or parts of you are ugly, when it's time to show that part of you it's going to be rough. On the other hand, if you think you're beautiful (without being arrogant), then that's how you're going to feel all of the time. There's a middle ground. We all have stuff we don't like; just be convinced that your beautiful parts are much greater than the less beautiful parts.

The second thing I think will help deal with your (in your mind) less beautiful parts, is to prepare for them. I know a lady who wears a really tight, very short skirt when she goes out. When the time comes to get naked, she pulls her skirt up to expose the fruits while hiding her tummy, because she doesn't like it. I know another lady who has a prominent scar from having open heart surgery. I think it took her a long time to come to grips with it but at some point she became proud of it and owns it. It's a part of who she is.

Did you watch Game of Thrones on HBO? There's a scene in it where Tyrion Lanister, a prmonient character who happens to be a dwarf, chastises another character because he shrinks from a negative characteristic that defines him, the fact that he's a bastard. Tyrion says, "Would you rather be called the Imp? Let them see that their words can cut you and you
I am a confident--curvy girl. I love to wear things that make me feel sexy, flirt and show off all my assets. But yes, when that moment hits, bam! All the insecurities come out. But as soon as you let yourself relax, and feel the moment, you have to realize they are there because they could not wait to see and feel you naked...Lose your self in the moment. Find a comfortable place to play, dim the lights, put on some great music and just let your hands and their hands go where they want. They key is to give it all up to truly enjoy.
Let your bodies take over and hopefully if they are as good as they say they are they will be there to help you relax and they will pleasure you until you are not even thinking about your body...and just feeling everything you want to feel.
We have all been there. No one is perfect :)
I have the same problem with myself. I was super tiny in high school, and for a few years after. Then, my thyroid went haywire, and it made me gain weight. After that, I didn't feel attractive. It doesn't help that my hubbs doesn't tell me I'm beautiful. I also had 4 kids in 5 years. That added an extra 50 lbs. I also have scars. Gall bladder and appendix. Along with stretch marks. I consider the stretch marks to be badges of honor. I don't like the way they look, but I love the reason they are there. I think a key to loving yourself is understanding that NO ONE is perfect. Our flaws make us.. us! We may not like it, but it's still part of us.

As far as when "that" moment comes, I figure if someone has wanted to get that far already, they must be OK with my body. It helps me when someone tells me that I'm pretty, or that they like the way my body looks. That helps to make me less embarrassed/self conscience. There are many times that I will look at a girl and think she is way too skinny. Women are meant to have curves! Padding is good. Embrace your curves and your imperfections. They just show that you are a normal person who hasn't been airbrushed. ;)
AMYNBOB wrote:

Female half here! I have a big booty and thick heavy bones! That's what God gave me and I own it! If someone doesn't want to talk too or play with me it is their loss. Confidence in what your working with makes you sensual and attractive. I've met good looking women that are embarrassed of thier body's. Such a turn off!!


by the way nice round booty Amy!! ;-)
AMYNBOB wrote:

Female half here! I have a big booty and thick heavy bones! That's what God gave me and I own it! If someone doesn't want to talk too or play with me it is their loss. Confidence in what your working with makes you sensual and attractive. I've met good looking women that are embarrassed of thier body's. Such a turn off!!

SMOKIN!
MOJO7189 wrote:

It's baby steps we went to our first party and Mrs. saw all the shapes and types and went full birthday suit to go in the pool which was a major step. You need to be comfortable with yourself we in the lifestyle are not all barbie and ken models. I as well went all nude we even had sex in the pool in front of all the other naked folk. As I opened with take baby steps do not let yourself to be forced or feel like you have to do the norm.


Hear Hear!!!!
I think it is just human nature to always have the tendency to be insecure about our bodies amongst other things. It takes a lot of strength to be self aware enough to remember to cut yourself some slack. I have noticed with my self that no matter what workout goals I achieve I always have more I want to work on body wise. I think if you are with good people they will like you for you regardless of imperfections. Most probably won't notice, we are our worst critics.
GIMME you are a very sexy girl and it only matters what we think. lol.

we both feel that way about our selves but it all the great people on the site that help make us feel sexy.
SCORPIONFROG wrote:

Ha! I appreciate that! I do, I agree also it's not that I look at others that way, I think I am a very harsh judge of myself, honestly can't help but compare myself and feel like I don't measure up.
EXACTLY!! This is the Mr. and I have horrible body issues! Yup! I hate the way I look now because all I can do is remember how I USED to look with little-to-no effort. But I don't look at others that way at all. In fact I prefer average to thick women, I dig scars, and stretch marks don't bother me a bit. I don't know why I'm so hard on myself, and have a hard time getting over it. I'm also what I would consider as average in the cock department, but others have told me "better", yet I'm so intimidated by any guy that might be even just a little larger. It's silly I know, cuz trust me I can "rock my cock", but it's still always in my mind as well as little bulges here & there. I don't have the luxury of "liquid courage" because I don't drink, so it seems I can never relax and have fun. I think it has also limited how much we have ever played. I hate it, and I can't get over it, so girls you aren't alone. Those of us MEN that are willing to admit it have more issues than you know.
~ROCK~
Everyone has insecurities. Some of us have learned to ignore most them. How we react to insecurity is, for the most part, a learned reaction that we have been socialized to. Advertisers have worked hard to enforce them so we will buy their products. Body image, clean floors, fresh smelling toilets, they are all part of the sales pitch. The truth is that only you can decide to get past it. Think of a swinger party as you might an AA meeting. Go and meet all the others that are not longer slim etc. Do that often enough and the insecurity will mostly go away.

I always figured that if people like you with your clothes on they will not complain when you take them off. Just stay away from skinny people for awhile. Also realize that at your weight and height posted in the profile, you can
I dont think any of is are totally happy with our bodies as we get older. The nice thing is it happens to all of us. It has gotten easier over time, when we see others letting loose and not worrying about it. The sexiest people we have met have a little extra botty on them. Including us. We are all REAL people and thats what matters to us.
well said utuni. trust all the good you here and your hubby .if they cant see the real beauty then they dont deserve you . or to play with you .personally i don look for the flaws im looking for the passion i your blue eyes
PERFECT!! Made me re-think a few things, but it's gonna take time to re-wire my brain. I've never been harsh or critical of others, just to myself. And honestly I'm a lot more confident now than I ever was, but it took me long after high school until I really came in. Just a late bloomer I reckon. But ladies, do as I say, not as I do... When the time comes to have fun, the last thing we're looking at are any blemishes...we already made our choice. It's the "catty" ones you need to watch out for. And like I've always said, "joke em if they can't take a fuck"!!
~ROCK~
if ur pretty on the inside,,,you cant hide that beauty!!
let it shine pretty girl
HISHERPLAY wrote:

GIMME you are a very sexy girl and it only matters what we think. lol.

we both feel that way about our selves but it all the great people on the site that help make us feel sexy.


Thank you!!! You guys are wonderful! Can't wait to get together with you again. Muahhhh!!
MOJO7189 wrote:

If we as a whole stopped looking at things like the BMI scale which was invented by insurance companies we would realize it's all a farce. The BMI scale was made to disqualify from getting insurance there is nothing saying that you have to be a certain height and weight. You have to be comfortable in your skin do the research you will realize that the norm is not the norm. The natural average was 12 last I checked so all these women that are trying to push a smaller size are lying. Remember Marilyn was a thick size 10 as was betty page this you have to be thin to be accepted is bullshit love your body and the real people will love you .



Exactly!!! Women are meant to have curves! It's ok to be skinny, and to look good, but some take it way too far. I personally don't like being with someone that feels like I'm grinding bone against bone. I like a little padding, especially on the hips. I'm talking about guys here, since I'm a straight gal. However, I do notice women. I can appreciate the female form, and I don't feel odd telling another lady that they are beautiful to me. My preference to what is beautiful has changed a lot from when I was young. Nice soft curves really are more attractive to me than bone skinny. I think women like Marilyn have the perfect bodies.

The "average" size of women today is about a 12. In the fashion industry, anything over a 6 is considered plus size. A 6!!!! I haven't been a 6 since I was 20. To me, telling a woman that she is plus size in a size 8 is totally wrong! Our culture puts way too much emphasis on weight and sizes. Us women just need to realize that what ever size we are is just fine! I know I have a problem with that, but I'm trying to get over it. It's hard with all the pressure from tv, magazines, movies and others to see the pretty in myself. We should be building each other up and looking more at the whole person (mind, body, soul) then at whether they fit in a size 2. If a girl can't go to a restaurant and order desert without feeling guilty, then I don't want to hang out with her ;). Just kidding!! But really, I like to eat. I don't want to have to restrict myself, and give up the things I like, just to fit into the norm. So, I'm embracing my curves and telling the women who don't like the way I look that they can suck it! If you aren't willing to get to know me, and all you are looking at is my outside, you don't deserve my attention. Is that too harsh??
When I (he) look in a mirror, and don't like what I see (which is EVERY time I look in a mirror), I just stop and think of someone I've seen who looks even worse (yes, they ARE out there) than I do.
No, it doesn't really make me feel a WHOLE lot better about myself - but it gets me through the moment. lol
Well all I know is that everyone looks good in the dark...LOL
MYRNASTWINS wrote:

I see a woman who's body tells a story, a very interesting one at that. You will never quit being Self Conscious until you realize you are the "Most Important Person You Know". Live and and Worry less it does make a Big Difference latter in life.



I have lost 100 pounds I have more to go. And have been terrified every time I think about being naked. Mr. Sutra tells me I'm beautiful, but there is always that 'THING' in the back of my brain that won't shut up.

I have never heard it put so well.

Thank you
FUCKADOODLEDOO wrote:

KARMEN always believe the hubby for sure. I was the same way and all it did was make me mean and grumpy cause I didn't believe him. I call it big girl mentality and guys have it too. We were big for so long that it will take time to even believe ourselves for sure.
Gina


Gina you look hot! Makes me sad you only like to play with girls... ;)
I'd say you look pretty good from where I'm sitting...
I was listening to Radio from Hell this morning, they had some sex therapists on. They said it helps if you start in a dark room for having fun, then gradually increase the level of light. They made the point also that most people don't notice the physical imperfections in their partner as much as the partners think they do.
Wow, I can tell that I'm a noob. I'm sitting here stressing about being a 39 year old male that can't grow a beard, has no chest hair and gets told that I look like a kid. I'm in between 5'7 and 5'8 and only weigh 145 lbs, so when I stand next to most men, I feel inferior. I guess we all have our hang-ups. My wife talks about wanting a tummy tuck and such and I don't get it. She's only gotten more fit and better looking as the years go by. I agree with the beauty inside helps with the beauty outside though. I've met women who were not attractive in the "media" sense, that I was extremely attracted to. Cheers to all of you who can see past physical flaws!
tequilla? lol
IDAHOCPLBU wrote:

I don't know what to tell you as I'm quite shy of my body also.


Why? Looks good to me! ;)
It's pretty simple...be sensitive to other's and how they think and feel. If someone has body issues, then be a good host and don't light the place up like it's a runway on "America's Next Top Model". Communicate if you have the chance, be honest about your concerns, and it'll help you stay physically "on the same page". If it turns you off that people have body issues or shyness, then move on to the other groups that are "above" us average-to-chubby folks, and have a great time! We do too! KISS!
~ROCK~
It's amazing, I've seen so many hot women post in here! If I could get money, I'd sell my left but for a chance with a few... I always look at an opportunity with a woman as a privilege, and have never found myself in a "wtf" scenario. I guess that makes me a "man", but I'll take it. To all of the lovely ladies here, you deserve much more credit than I've seen given....
Great thread.. I think the vast majority of us have varying degrees of self consciousness. Most people don't look like we did when we were "young", but things can get better with age.

I can't speak for everyone, but I'd guess most aren't supermodels or porn stars. If we were, would we be here? A lot of people like a beer belly, or some junk in the trunk.. if they don't? Fuck em (not literally, but if they will let you? :p)

Luckily, most of us have someone else to come home to, who love us for who we are :). This is like being a teenager, learning to date.. Will he/she like me.. what if, etc. But I've often thought, if I knew then what I knew now.. well, now we do. Take advantage of you're knowledge and have fun!
I have lost over 150 pounds and gain some back i still worry about what other people think.. but i am happy with me and i like me for who i am.. i did have a c section.. i know i am not like FUCKADOOLEDOO said i am not barbie and i dont want to be i am happy with the person i am on the inside and the love and care i show to other's even i just met them i think that is what count's and people will love you for who you are on the inside,,,
I just wish they would take all the damn mirrors down at the gym. lol
Thank you Fuckadoodleoo,
My body is an illusion, Naked it is well in my eyes yuck! Too many years of self loathing is stuck in my head. Hate having pictures taken and difinately naked ones. Now Hubbby, on the other hand, well, he can pull off being naked all the time. lol

FUCKADOODLEDOO wrote:

CPL4OTHERS wrote:

I just wish they would take all the damn mirrors down at the gym. lol


Whatever if I looked like you two do then I would so stare at myself in a mirror. There are lots of beautiful peeps for sure but its up to them if they are gonna be that inside too. Like I said it has taken me a lot of yrs to get where I am now but still I am a work in progress as far as my " Big Girl Mentality" goes. DAMN IT I wish I was one of those peeps who could eat everything and not gain 50 pounds LOL. I was 300 pounds for a very long time and now am down to 165. I was down to 135 but with bone structure and height I wasn't healthy so had to gain a few pounds like 30. It all boils down to who cares what others think of you for sure the only persons opinion that matters is yours. K so I had a lot of coffee already LMAO.
Gina
I look at it this way, What I lack in the perfect body catagory I more than make up for with my enthusiasm, skill, and super fun personality!!
BLONDIE69 wrote:

I am so self conscious about my body, I am one that has to have the lights off at all times or this girl doesn't get undressed lol...it hasn't been till just recent that I have allowed the lights to be on only because of someone insisting, it helped me. I haven't been in the LS very long but since I have been my self esteem and self confidence has grown. I enjoy being around all the amazing people I have met and they all have made me feel comfortable and believe it or not I have actually felt beautiful. I am a very shy person and I do believe it is because of the way I feel about my body, I do also believe there is more to a person then just another beautiful face or body, you need to get to know that person and the personality and learning who they are is what makes people beautiful, I just need to get over my own insecurities and then I will be able to enjoy myself more. There is something beautiful in everyone I personally love my tits but hate the rest of my body lol.


From what I've seen... I'd say your trouble, but hot just the same... ;)
..My thoughts are that nobody is perfect. I'm far from it and I think we can all think of things we rather not have going on in the body department with age, having babies,this, that, Blah! blah! blah! ... Use what you got....and use it well! ;) Mix and hang with those you feel comfortable with but dont be shy on meeting new people... Attitude is everything and can make or break you in all the varying situations that can come up in the lifestyle.. I say, ..just relax and go get fucked.. that'll help! hehe! PEACE~
Well I use to worry about it. I know I need to hit yhe gym, but I'm 60 and my attitude now as far as my body is concerned is what you see is what you get. Now that I am retired I plan to spend more time in the gym, but that's is for my overall health. But being on this site for a number of years now my size has not stopped us from meeting and playing with people of all ages and body sizes.
Why do you suppose it is that women are embarrassed and self conscious about their scars but men are proud and braggadocios of theirs? Men think of them as proof of adventure. What greater adventure is there than having kids? Ladies if you had that adventure - brag about it. Don't be afraid to show off your proof.

Mr. Sexperimentors