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I was recentally contacted by a man who would have to travel to meet. After chatting some he said if he travels to meet he expects to play on the first meet.

Please keep in mind we have played on first meet with right people, however we have also gone home and played with each other instead of the people we meet.

I have also recently had a guy tell me if I wont swallow then I have to do anal with him and my husband was not to happy about that demand.

So I am curious what do people expect?
LUKIN4HMM wrote:

There should never any expectations when meeting someone. Text, email, and even phone calls con't convey who a person really is or what they will look like when you meet in person. I would completely steer away from someone that was making demands of you before you had even talked face to face. Just my opinion


I completely agree! I do enjoy anal with my husband only (it is something I only do with him) but I cannot swallow at all and he has always joked and said you are not allowed to swallow with another man (knowing I can't) because you can't swallow mine... which seems fair in my opinion. I just could not believe the nerve of some people.
HOTCOUPLE2TAKE wrote:

LUKIN4HMM wrote:

There should never any expectations when meeting someone. Text, email, and even phone calls con't convey who a person really is or what they will look like when you meet in person. I would completely steer away from someone that was making demands of you before you had even talked face to face. Just my opinion


We completely agree with that. Never accept demands. It is fine to play on the first meet if you feel comfortable with them and feel some chemistry. But there should never be that expectation. I will tell you the same thing I tell my wife when dealing with new guys. Stand your ground. It is your rules and not theirs.


My husbands tells me the pussy makes the rules...lol

When meeting new people we expect them to be honest, and real nothing more!
LUKIN4HMM wrote:

There should never any expectations when meeting someone. Text, email, and even phone calls con't convey who a person really is or what they will look like when you meet in person. I would completely steer away from someone that was making demands of you before you had even talked face to face. Just my opinion


I completely agree! I do enjoy anal with my husband only (it is something I only do with him) but I cannot swallow at all and he has always joked and said you are not allowed to swallow with another man (knowing I can't) because you can't swallow mine... which seems fair in my opinion. I just could not believe the nerve of some people.
I have to agree with the other posters. If there are demands then Im out. I will do what I feel right about and wont be forced into anything. The nerve of some people.
I don't think there's anything more we can add other then I would have him drive his ass off just to slap him!
Ms.
MUSICMAKERS wrote:

I don't think there's anything more we can add other then I would have him drive his ass off just to slap him! Ms.


I agree. I can
I'd tell him to stick it up his own ass! Hahahaha
We are completely new to this lifestyle and havent meet anyone but i do have to agree with everyone, no demands can be made because then it takes the fun out of it for all except maybe the one who demands. I like talking to everyone and getting to know what the lifestyle is REALLY about not the rumors. But to be honest a part of me is afraid to meet people in person. Because of the demands that could be made. To be honest I am a pleaser I am more likely to do something for someone else cause i dont want to disappoint them and with this lifestyle that doesnt work. U do it cause u want to not necessarily cause someone wants u too.
Couples we'll meet with the "lets hang out and see where things go" idea.
Single males we do not. If we put for the effort of making plans/arrangements, get a sitter, drive out to wherever, etc etc etc.... things best be happening.

Demands such as "cum in your mouth or i'll buttsecks you"... yeah. unreasaonable for sure. we do have our lists of "not happening/deal breaker items" but that's about the extent of that one. if our likes and dislikes aren't compatible, then we just don't make plans to play. Simple stuff.
I would think the only expectations to agree to meet are A)to go through with meeting (don't stand one another up), and B)be polite and courteous, even if there's not a "click." Beyond that, ANY expectation of anything sexual is outside the bounds of reasonable.
I have to totally agree with Utahseeker. If you going to meet then go through with it. And being respectful, courteous, polite, are more important than the sex. And if you cliche then go from there.
I/we "expect" nothing more/nothing less from someone other than what they have indicated in their profile.
Folks who have already 'properly' filled out the preferences/will/won't area of their profile have already laid the ground rules, and therefore have established their limits.
For those who HAVE NOT filled out that section, you open yourself up to speculation, expectations and being pushed beyond your comfort level.

Unfortunately, so far, there's nothing any of us can do in some cases.
At least until Admin invents an "asshole repellent" button.
In the meantime, demanders and pretty pleasers can go to hell.
We refer to this as "sexpectations", we only play when the vibe is right. Period....
If things are demanded of us before we meet then we will never meet. Just because you enjoy sex and swinging does not mean your automatically someones sex toy when you meet them. The only reason someone will travel to meet and expect you to play on first date is they do not plan on coming back for a second date. You should do what you want and what you are comfortable with.
JNT34 wrote:

The only reason someone will travel to meet and expect you to play on first date is they do not plan on coming back for a second date.


I do the first date play time with single males and have had several repeat encounters with a handful of them. Some of them are regular playmates, but that's how we've always run things with single males. but this is what works for us and definitely doesn't work for everyone. as obvious by the other posts in this thead

You should do what you want and what you are comfortable with.


couldn't agree with this more :D
HELLO_KITTY12984 wrote:

Couples we'll meet with the "lets hang out and see where things go" idea.
Single males we do not. If we put for the effort of making plans/arrangements, get a sitter, drive out to wherever, etc etc etc.... things best be happening.

Demands such as "cum in your mouth or i'll buttsecks you"... yeah. unreasaonable for sure. we do have our lists of "not happening/deal breaker items" but that's about the extent of that one. if our likes and dislikes aren't compatible, then we just don't make plans to play. Simple stuff.

Right?
Ms.
MUSICMAKERS wrote:

HELLO_KITTY12984 wrote:

Couples we'll meet with the "lets hang out and see where things go" idea.
Single males we do not. If we put for the effort of making plans/arrangements, get a sitter, drive out to wherever, etc etc etc.... things best be happening.

Demands such as "cum in your mouth or i'll buttsecks you"... yeah. unreasaonable for sure. we do have our lists of "not happening/deal breaker items" but that's about the extent of that one. if our likes and dislikes aren't compatible, then we just don't make plans to play. Simple stuff.

Right?
Ms.


unless you like that sorta shit? then i can cum up with all kinds of entertaining threats. lulz. ;)
HELLO_KITTY12984 wrote:

MUSICMAKERS wrote:

[quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]Couples we'll meet with the "lets hang out and see where things go" idea.
Single males we do not. If we put for the effort of making plans/arrangements, get a sitter, drive out to wherever, etc etc etc.... things best be happening.

Demands such as "cum in your mouth or i'll buttsecks you"... yeah. unreasaonable for sure. we do have our lists of "not happening/deal breaker items" but that's about the extent of that one. if our likes and dislikes aren't compatible, then we just don't make plans to play. Simple stuff.

Right?
Ms.


unless you like that sorta shit? then i can cum up with all kinds of entertaining threats. lulz. ;)[/quote]
Sounds like your threatening us with a good time Kitty
We play by the "no pressure" rule and expect the same. If we want pressure we'll go to work..lol
no expectations = no disappointment
UCANTOUCHMYMONKY wrote:

Expectations are the seeds of frustration. Frustration is the mother of resentment. Resentment begets sadness and it's ugly siblings anger and hate. Best to avoid the whole lineage if one wishes to achieve a happy outlook on life. Now how Zen is that for a notoriously self absorbed shallow guy?



I love it!!!
To be honest I was extremely floored by the demands...
Some people are insane out there.

And insanity and horniness in some guys is a gross and dangerous combination.
CPL_WANTS_CPL wrote:

I was recentally contacted by a man who would have to travel to meet. After chatting some he said if he travels to meet he expects to play on the first meet.

Please keep in mind we have played on first meet with right people, however we have also gone home and played with each other instead of the people we meet.

I have also recently had a guy tell me if I wont swallow then I have to do anal with him and my husband was not to happy about that demand.

So I am curious what do people expect?
Are you fucking kidding me??? These are the the kind of worthless scumbag fucksticks that sometimes make me ashamed to be a man! They need to be taught some manners, tied to a chair, have a 16 penny nail driven through their worthless cock, and slapped the fuck out of until they know how to respect a woman and talk to her like she's a person and not a cumdumpster! Gawd it pissed me off to read that there are still jerks out there that act like that! There are no demands!!! There are no bargains to be made or you have to "do this or that". Fuck right off, end of story! Have some men forgotten the one that owns the pussy makes the rules??? Where's the respect, the gratitude, the gratefulness that there are amazing women out there willing to play with us, and they don't have to! You're not a piece of meat, and unless proven differently or that kind of disrespect truly due for whatever horrible reason, no woman deserves to be talked to like that. Gawd that pissed me off!!! Who do some of these dickheads think they are? And where is their entitlement??? I don't care if his cock is made of gold and spits chocolate flavored fucking fairy dust, there's a time and a place for that kind of talk, and only if it's in a relationship where those kind of demands are more of a game like "sexual favors". I apologize for these douschebags, and hope that kind of bullshit doesn't happen very often to many of you women. This just really hit me wrong for some reason, and it's not even my own wife. Jesus I'm gettin cranky lately a frankly a little sick & tired of these freaks that think they make the rules. Not in my world, and not while I have air in my lungs. Gawd I think I need an icecream and a nap. I'm just really losing patience for some of these fuckers that ruin it for those of us who haven't forgotten our morals, how a beautiful woman should be treated, how lucky we are, and how to be a decent fucking human being. If anyone disagrees, go pound sand and have fun fucking your fist, because that's all you deserve! Icecream anyone???
ROCK
Mr. Pebble: u make me raff!
UCANTOUCHMYMONKY wrote:

Expectations are the seeds of frustration. Frustration is the mother of resentment. Resentment begets sadness and it's ugly siblings anger and hate. Best to avoid the whole lineage if one wishes to achieve a happy outlook on life. Now how Zen is that for a notoriously self absorbed shallow guy?


Whatever it was you said - I agree.
I think.
Just tell the creep to save the expense and to look elsewhere... it won't happen with you. Your safety and sanity are worth more than a "playmate." I'm sure you can do much better elsewhere, and I'm sure you aren't so desperate to accept "any" thing, so you can say you played. Since you are a couple, I would also be sure your husband is very present should the creep even think of showing up and both of you to be very explicit as to what won't happen... in other words..you aren't going to play with him under any circumstances since he already crossed the line (your line) of acceptability in making demands of you.
Expectations? Been there, done that. We totally go with the flow most of the time but any time anyone expresses ANY expectations we tell them to move on and "expect" shit from someone else. We're aren't ANYONE'S sexual outlet and they can hire a fucking hooker if they want a sure thing.
No one should expect anything.
It depends on if there is a connection on whether we play the same day that we meet. There shouldn't be any expectations and no one should have the right to make demands on anyone else. When this happens it takes the fun out of it.
PEBBLEROCK wrote:

CPL_WANTS_CPL wrote:

I was recentally contacted by a man who would have to travel to meet. After chatting some he said if he travels to meet he expects to play on the first meet. Please keep in mind we have played on first meet with right people, however we have also gone home and played with each other instead of the people we meet. I have also recently had a guy tell me if I wont swallow then I have to do anal with him and my husband was not to happy about that demand. So I am curious what do people expect?
Are you fucking kidding me??? These are the the kind of worthless scumbag fucksticks that sometimes make me ashamed to be a man! They need to be taught some manners, tied to a chair, have a 16 penny nail driven through their worthless cock, and slapped the fuck out of until they know how to respect a woman and talk to her like she's a person and not a cumdumpster! Gawd it pissed me off to read that there are still jerks out there that act like that! There are no demands!!! There are no bargains to be made or you have to "do this or that". Fuck right off, end of story! Have some men forgotten the one that owns the pussy makes the rules??? Where's the respect, the gratitude, the gratefulness that there are amazing women out there willing to play with us, and they don't have to! You're not a piece of meat, and unless proven differently or that kind of disrespect truly due for whatever horrible reason, no woman deserves to be talked to like that. Gawd that pissed me off!!! Who do some of these dickheads think they are? And where is their entitlement??? I don't care if his cock is made of gold and spits chocolate flavored fucking fairy dust, there's a time and a place for that kind of talk, and only if it's in a relationship where those kind of demands are more of a game like "sexual favors". I apologize for these douschebags, and hope that kind of bullshit doesn't happen very often to many of you women. This just really hit me wrong for some reason, and it's not even my own wife. Jesus I'm gettin cranky lately a frankly a little sick & tired of these freaks that think they make the rules. Not in my world, and not while I have air in my lungs. Gawd I think I need an icecream and a nap. I'm just really losing patience for some of these fuckers that ruin it for those of us who haven't forgotten our morals, how a beautiful woman should be treated, how lucky we are, and how to be a decent fucking human being. If anyone disagrees, go pound sand and have fun fucking your fist, because that's all you deserve! Icecream anyone??? ROCK




AMEN AND THANK YOU!
People do the demands and expectations as a way to make you feel guilty if you do not do what they want. We have seen it all to often so always better to tell them to get lost.
Never expect... Be grateful for what is given :) tell him to meet you at a random starbucks then make fun of him for waitin haha
Sometimes you just know it
The only expectation I've ever had here is an answer to an e-mail. More often than not, replies dont appear in the mailbox. Maybe I'm too polite and laid back.

On those rare and few occassion where I've actually met someone after an e-mail or phone call. I never expected more than a hug, kiss on the cheek, and pleasant conversation. So when things got hot. It was not only fun and exciting, but unexpected.

Ed