Just something I was thinking about and thought I would get everyones input. How much is honesty worth in the lifestyle?
BTW I\'m always truthfull reguardless of the outcome. But I\'m curious??
p.s. what happens when you find out that someone or someones lied?
BTW I\'m always truthfull reguardless of the outcome. But I\'m curious??
p.s. what happens when you find out that someone or someones lied?
Its number one.. most important.. to us anyways.
What happens when people lie.. well depends what about and why.. sometimes you can talk it over, other times its like.. well nice knowing you, we had fun.. sorry you lied.. and get on with your lives.
A & P
What happens when people lie.. well depends what about and why.. sometimes you can talk it over, other times its like.. well nice knowing you, we had fun.. sorry you lied.. and get on with your lives.
A & P
We agree!!! Honesty is #1 - if you don\'t trust who you\'re with or know they are on the up-and-up you\'ll just have nothing but problems. We don\'t need those kind of headaches!
Honesty has to be the basis of the swinging culture. If it were not, what good would your profile be. My wife and I had never cheated on each other, and have always been open and honest with each other about everything. Therefore when we decided to take part in this lifestyle we knew we would be able to trust each other and not have jealous fears. We can enjoy what this lifestyle has to offer together because we trust each other, but we also want those who play with us to be honest. If they do not seem to be what they say they are about, we do not play. Its that simple. We have noticed many in the single male catagory, are not really single. Some will come out and tell you so. That does not matter, if they have not told their wife. They are not being honest with her, and they are CHEATERS, and are asking us to take a part in cheating on their wives. I told one such person that the only way we would consider meeting him, would be with his wife\'s permission. He mockingly ask if I meant he had to get written permission from her. I replied; No, verbal, face to face. We never heard from him again, LOL.
Honesty is an absolute must in the lifestyle. Honesty=Trust...There is to much at stake here not to have it.
Honesty is an absolute must in the lifestyle. Honesty=Trust...There is to much at stake here not to have it.
How much is honesty worth in any aspect of life. We\'re lied to by government, religion, food producers, chemical companies, meat producers, car manufacturers, lawyers, or am I just a tad over reacting... I think honesty is relative.. .. Do you trust someone or not... What do you base that trust on.. what they say, what someone else says, your own experiences..
In the lifestyle one must take on faith many things and with a great deal of intuition. As you get to know someone by talking to them and interacting with them you get a better understanding of who and what they are and you eith trust more completely or you lose faith with them or them with you and you part and go your separate ways. If you start with the assumption that they are untrustworthy you will never give them a chance to vindicate themselves in your eyes or to have them trust you enough to open up to total honesty. One has to start somewhere to trust and give prople a chance to trust you... Real honesty can begin only then...
Is honesty important????... Yes Absolutely......Do I believe that everyone is as honest as I????? Not in your wildest dreams. Do I give people a chance to get to know me and trust me and for me to get to know them and trust them??? YES how else can I know the truth.
Where do we start???? that\'s really the question... This is an alterrnate lifestyle even if it\'s only recreational and it is a threat to many people outside of swinging... Just look at all the indignation about same sex marriage and how you have sex and with whom and what you can or should do in the bedroom.... People are a bit nervous what they say openly and with other people....Some of us don\'t give a rats petute what people think.... but maybe the law and what they think might make some queezie... So before making a statement that honesty is SOOOOOOooooo important... people have to start to trust somewhere. So things are downright transparent and should be addressed immediately but not all things... There are no blacks and no whites in Swinging.. it\'s all shades of gray and we all see color diferently even gray...
In the lifestyle one must take on faith many things and with a great deal of intuition. As you get to know someone by talking to them and interacting with them you get a better understanding of who and what they are and you eith trust more completely or you lose faith with them or them with you and you part and go your separate ways. If you start with the assumption that they are untrustworthy you will never give them a chance to vindicate themselves in your eyes or to have them trust you enough to open up to total honesty. One has to start somewhere to trust and give prople a chance to trust you... Real honesty can begin only then...
Is honesty important????... Yes Absolutely......Do I believe that everyone is as honest as I????? Not in your wildest dreams. Do I give people a chance to get to know me and trust me and for me to get to know them and trust them??? YES how else can I know the truth.
Where do we start???? that\'s really the question... This is an alterrnate lifestyle even if it\'s only recreational and it is a threat to many people outside of swinging... Just look at all the indignation about same sex marriage and how you have sex and with whom and what you can or should do in the bedroom.... People are a bit nervous what they say openly and with other people....Some of us don\'t give a rats petute what people think.... but maybe the law and what they think might make some queezie... So before making a statement that honesty is SOOOOOOooooo important... people have to start to trust somewhere. So things are downright transparent and should be addressed immediately but not all things... There are no blacks and no whites in Swinging.. it\'s all shades of gray and we all see color diferently even gray...
if you cant be honest you shouldnt be in this lifestyle lying and playing games causes way to much drama and problem for all concerned.......... but thats just the way i feel
Honestly, honesty is what our Whole lifestyle is based on. If I catch somene in a lie, esepsially one that could endanger oru health. I now olny call them on it but also inforn all that I know about such said person(s) because no one needs people that only care abuot themselves when this is a selfless lifestyle. Well it is for the most of us at least.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Sterling
Just my 2 cents worth.
Sterling
no reason to lie, particularly in this lifestyle. You just end up chasing your own dishonesty...
without honesty there is nothing in this lifestyle or any where else if the is a relationship then there should be No reason for lies and in most cases a person that lies once will lie again.
If I/We find someone has been lying then that would end any kind of relationship in or out of lifestyle without trust there can\'t be a relationship just doesn\'t work
If I/We find someone has been lying then that would end any kind of relationship in or out of lifestyle without trust there can\'t be a relationship just doesn\'t work
Honesty is a must with us!We have got to be able to trust the other couples or we won\'t play with them or even be friends.Friendship is built on honesty,especially in this lifestyle!
honesty is everything, i mean really, if you have something to hide from this group of people....you must be homicidal or something.
It goes to base charachter, I tend to drift towards honest genuine people in all walks of life. I personally do not like dishonets people, you cannot trust them. And do you want to share your life with people you cannot trust? Not us.
It goes to base charachter, I tend to drift towards honest genuine people in all walks of life. I personally do not like dishonets people, you cannot trust them. And do you want to share your life with people you cannot trust? Not us.
Honesty is a must. If we found someone lied to us it would be the end. Lack of honesty is the death of relationships. Hell I feel guilty as hell not being totally honest with the wife about what I got her for Christmas. :-)
I have also always said that I am too lazy to be dishonest. If you like you have to work hard to remember the lies you have told. It is far easier to be honest. :-)
I have also always said that I am too lazy to be dishonest. If you like you have to work hard to remember the lies you have told. It is far easier to be honest. :-)
HONESTY is very important, thats why i like to get to know the people i wantta get with......you never know who you get in bed with(kinda scary)
Honesty is without a doubt the most important aspect of the swing lifestyle. Some people can\'t handle honesty though how many cpls have you met with told you they have been in the lifestyle for 10+ years and tell you \"oh we have only met a few cpls\" yeah right!
We will be honest we have lost count lol then again we don\'t count we just meet people and what happens happens. Without honesty you might as well not be in the lifestyle. This goes especially for the cpls/singles who are playing behind a partners back it will only burn you in the end.
We will be honest we have lost count lol then again we don\'t count we just meet people and what happens happens. Without honesty you might as well not be in the lifestyle. This goes especially for the cpls/singles who are playing behind a partners back it will only burn you in the end.
\"HONESTY\" is the main part of this \"LIFESTYLE\". To bad (most) \"SINGLE\" males responding to Couples don\'t \"UNDERSTAND\" this,or is it they just don\'t \"READ\" the profiles before responding
we tell it like it is . and piss off alot of people at the same time.
but thats the way we are . we will not lie to anybody for any reason.
but thats the way we are . we will not lie to anybody for any reason.
THANK YOU!! Wanted to thank everyone for the insightful and thoughtfull and HONEST opinions. Guess I now know how some of the people in the lifestyle feel about this.
Thanks again!! :z
Thanks again!! :z
honesty is a must it this lifestyle
Honesty has become a major issue with us. Not only do we constantly hear from married guys claiming to be single, but they tell us they live in our city when they live far away and say things that are opposite of what their profiles say. They say they are straight when its very obvious from reading their profiles that they are Bi-sexual. In general, they will say what ever they have to in order to attempt to get laid.
Couples are just as bad. They email us wanting to meet and we never hear from them again
(some of these are of course men posing as couples) or they lie about their weight and age or about being Bi sexual. They say they drink only socially and get drunk when we meet them. People will deal you from the bottom of the deck. They get angry when we ask questions of them as we do not trust anyone now. Men especially get bent out of shape when you question their profiles after they tell you something completely different.
Its a jungle out there. We do not ask very personal things like where they work or live but we do expect them to be straight forward. That seems to be difficult for some. Very sad.
Couples are just as bad. They email us wanting to meet and we never hear from them again
(some of these are of course men posing as couples) or they lie about their weight and age or about being Bi sexual. They say they drink only socially and get drunk when we meet them. People will deal you from the bottom of the deck. They get angry when we ask questions of them as we do not trust anyone now. Men especially get bent out of shape when you question their profiles after they tell you something completely different.
Its a jungle out there. We do not ask very personal things like where they work or live but we do expect them to be straight forward. That seems to be difficult for some. Very sad.