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Are they one of the sexiest things about a woman? This is the Mr posting, and the other night she and I were talking about self-consciousness regarding things like stretch marks, scars, etc. I think I may have finally convinced her that I genuinely think it's hot! When I look at her body I don't look at those things as detracting from her looks, I know what they represent and it makes her that much sexier in my eyes. She of course would change things if she had her way but when I look at a womans imperfections I see them for what they represent. I know that the back story is that she gave birth to a great kid, got toxemia very late and very suddenly, and the doctor damn near lost both of them during an emergency c-section. They both pulled through thank goodness and she gave birth to a son who is the top 1% of the nations academia and will likely end up working for NASA. She came out of it with some battle scars that tell a great story when I look at her sexy body. So for those of you ladies who have some of these little things that you'd like to change, a couple extra pounds that you wish you could lose etc, I'm here to tell you that you are sexier than hell, and theres nothing hotter than the little 'imperfections' that make you a real woman in my book.
Thanks for this post! What a great compliment to your wife!
I didn't get stretch marks or scars, but I most definitely have other imperfections that I could do without. My man always tells me how sexy he thinks I am and I can tell he means it by the way he looks at me. I used to be very self-conscience, but he taught me to have confidence! It's nice to know that real men truly appreciate real women... imperfections and all.
I couldn't agree more with the OP, perfection has it's costs...beauty is what we see. I (mr) am a fond admirer of he female form. Each as beautiful and unique as the next, and each deserve that attention to find what makes them beautiful in their own right. A lot of people would argue that "that's something ugly people say", but the truth is. If there really are that many perfect people out there, how do we survive in finding new potential friends and playmates. Beauty is much more than skin deep my friends, look a little harder. ;)
Kudos to the original poster - it's those unique things that make a woman look amazing to a man (and vice versa I am sure). It also serves as a reminder to all us guys to always appreciate VERBALLY those things that excite us, turn us on, etc. about a woman that we think of or fantasize about with a secret grin.
This is what I needed to hear!!! (well....read)... I know my Mr. finds me sexy, but I needed to hear someone else's perspective as to why.
I have 3 children and it was my first pregnancy that wrecked my body beyond natural repair and healing... Like your wife I had toxemia/hypertension and emergency Caesarian, so I know what she's feeling!! It takes one hell of a supportive partner to boost that confidence we need! I feel as sexy as he sees me, even though I'm not flawless, my body has one intimate story to tell!!
One man's opinion:

I have NEVER been attracted to women with perfect, Playboy Playmate type bodies - airbrushed or in the flesh.
I'm FAR more turned on by real, everyday, run-of-the-mill (sorry if that terminology offends anyone) women.
There is no such thing as an unatractive woman.
Men are a WHOLE nuther story.

And I have a question for any of you guys who think you rate/deserve a PERFECT woman: "Where the hell are YOUR blue ribbons? lol
love this. :) thanks for the encouragement for confidence.
There are many things that make us who we are and what we have become in life and yes theta always things that we can improve with ourselfs but not change only improve .
I think many of us are put off by the folks with perfect porn star bodies. It basically turns into a contest of my wife is hotter than your wife. And this is not about that. The part about that is those folks are elitist for the most part and wont even entertain the thought of hanging with a normal couple who need about 10 more hours a week in the gym. I think most of us realize all of us have our imperfections and we make up for them in how dirty we are or our personality or whatever. I personally look for reasons to make a potential partner hot( nice lips, nice ass, swallows) and so forth. She looks for someone who is funny, clean and knows how to respect boundaries. So, really I guess I am saying to just relax people. Lets all get naked and screw. We love you all!
And here, I thought I was the only guy like this...

Good to see that there's more than just me....
Had a friend years ago that would walk over to a table where 2 or more females were sitting and pick out the, uhhhh.............. shall we say "least handsome" of the choices to ask for a dance.
Trust me, that guy got more ass in the parking lot of vanilla clubs and bars than most of us will ever get in bed.
And in all honesty, HE was butt-fucking-ugly.

Again, one man's opinion:
Most women who THINK they're hot - aren't.
Most women who ARE hot - don't realize it.
And nothing turns me off more than a BayWatch cutie who thinks she's all it and acts like (and believes) she's doing you a favor by doing you.

I'm no Tom Selleck - and I realize that.
So I have zero expectations of attracting Jennifer Lopez - and take what I can get.
But I do draw the line at Phyllis Diller and Joan Rivers.
I think Ann Margaret is the hottest woman alive, and I've lost count of all the fantasies I've enjoyed with her in them - but I also lust after Kathy Bates.
This from geekgirl... the female half:

Beauty is in the eye (and mind) of the beholder. We all have our own definitions of "beauty" and "handsome." Often, the most beautiful thing about a person is their personality. We can dream about the whole package knowing that the ideal probably doesn't exist. We choose life partners for many reasons and accept the parts of them that aren't perfect, even learn to love those elements. We choose swing partners (one-time, casual, or long term friends-for-benefits) for totally different reasons.

Yes, we all have preferences where body type/color/balance/etc. are concerned and it is often situation dependent as to what we find attractive... The imperfections you find in a person in a business situation are probably a whole lot different than those you find in a person you meet in a swing environment.

Who is to define "imperfection?" Certainly, not I.
TOMNTAMMY wrote:

Thank you to the Original Poster!! Thank you for talking about imperfections, When I look at myself thats all I see are the stretch marks and the not perfect body, I had 5 miscarriages and gave birth to 2 boys and my body isnt perfect. My man tells me all the time how beautiful I am and I have hard time seeing what he sees.... I think im harder on myself than any other person, I was 125 pds and a size 10 in high schl, so its hard to see the beauty my man sees, even my mom tells me I use to be pretty when I was skinny and in high schl. Now I will look at my imperfections as beautiful. I so needed to read what everyone wrote and it will help me alot!


YOU JUST PLAIN DON'T GET IT!!!
When you look at yourself, you're looking through YOUR eyes - CRITICALLY.
When hubby looks at you, he's looking through HIS eyes - LOVINGLY.
Which makes you an EXTREMELY lucky woman - even if you're Phyllis Diller's twin sister.
Enjoy it.
Revel in it.
And give thanks every day for a man like that.

DISCLAIMER:
The above comments were made only PARTIALLY tongue-in-cheek.
This was a great post. Women always like to hear that they look sexy. And it's nice to know that some men understand that we aren't always happy with our looks.

Thanks again.
Thank you to the swing community for providing the salve on a deep wound for women. In Vanilla-World, we see super-models' nude or nearly-nude bodies in the media far more then regular girls. I see differently now! I've even tried to console my Vanilla friends that there's no need for so much self-inflicted pain over this..if only they could see what I have seen! You're all just beautiful, and perfection? Totally boring. Find your confidence and flaunt your sexy self!
Great post! This has been on my mind a lot lately. Last time I was getting ready for a swinger party, I was looking in the mirror and doing what I think a lot of women do: noticing the extra fat, stretch marks, less than perfect breasts, and comparing it to the images of "beauty" we are saturated with and being extremely disappointed. Even on this site, you look at the home page, and event flyer images, all the nice boob jobs at the parties, and think "THAT is what is sexy, THAT is what guys want, WHY in the world would any guy want me?" It can leave a girl feeling a bit insecure and very UN sexy.
I've read these forums a few times and haven't felt the need to post anything yet. But today I read this and I feel inspired; I feel sexy! I am a single mother of one and so I don't have an "other half" to tell me how sexy I am, and I certainly get down on myself a lot about the stretch marks and "how am I ever going to attract someone with these things on my body!?" Thank you for posting this topic and letting us women- myself included- realize just how sexy we are regardless of the marks. They truly do make the person sexier.
Great post!! My wife...I mean my BEAUTIFUL WIFE has blessed us with 4 beautiful boys. Her body went through changes and unexplanibly so did mine...lol...now several years later with the kids not beating us into submission we're both taking a little time needed for ourselves and spend it working out together (mainly running)in attempts to erase some of the wear and tear we've experienced. WOMEN are BEAUTIFUL and have most often earned the things they call imperfections!!! I loved my wife skinny...loved her pregnant. We're trying to stay as in shape as we can because thats what makes us happy for the time being however we both know that eventually we will grow old and fat TOGETHER...lol....and HAPPY! We have had some opportunities to meet some great people here since we arrived in this lifestyle and all too often the people/person that everyone can tell thinks of themself as having the "pefect body" have the personality of a wet mop (sad to say)...and if you look close even they have flaws...we all do...so I say women please feel more confident in your beauty and sexuality, because a woman who has a good personality and is sexual and knows what she likes and expresses it openly is ONE VERY SEXY WOMAN regardless of any "imperfections."
'nuff said.
CURIOUSANDFUN34 wrote:

Thank you for you heartwarming post. I have to say that since beginning this life style I have felt better about my body. It helps that really great men can see our beauty even when we cant. I just wanted to say Thank you to all the great men and women that Ive met on here. You all rock!
.And I just want you to know that your body is absolutly amazing to me. cant wait to get my hands on it again ;)
Great post. My wife to me is very sexy. And it seems most of those with who we play with agree.
Thanks for all of the love and I was glad to see how much everyone enjoyed the original post, I'm even happier to see all the good that it did for some of you who felt the same way. Much love!
What about the guys? I have always struggled with my weight especially around the waist, I think Joan Rivers described it as such "Its not a love handle, its more like a death grip".
"You are perfect as you are. With all your imperfections you are perfect.
If you are imperfect, you are perfectly imperfect - but perfection is there."
--Osho

Seeing beauty is subjective; an abstract...

Those that see no beauty with the so-called "flaws" or "blemishes" of others are incapable of seeing beauty within themselves.

There are many ways that attraction can manifest and be discovered; why limit ourselves to the paradigm(s) of what mass-consciousness suggests as an exclusive definition of "beauty"?

Peace...
~J
SEXISFUN775 wrote:

What about the guys? I have always struggled with my weight especially around the waist, I think Joan Rivers described it as such "Its not a love handle, its more like a death grip".


I agree.
But for whatever reason, society holds women to a different standard than men.
The perception is, if a man carries a little extra around the middle, it's jokingly referred to as a "spare tire" or a "beer belly".
Let it happen to a woman and - "she let herself go".

Wouldn't it be great if, as members of society, we didn't have to deal with society - or have to try and measure up?
I went for years without sex and thinking I was not a sexy or desirable being. This lifestyle has turned things around for me, brought out the wild thing, and healed me in ways I could never have done otherwise. Thank you to all of my new found friends and I love ya! And I do not worry about my imperfections.......
THOUGHTGARDEN wrote:

"You are perfect as you are. With all your imperfections you are perfect. If you are imperfect, you are perfectly imperfect - but perfection is there." --Osho Seeing beauty is subjective; an abstract... Those that see no beauty with the so-called "flaws" or "blemishes" of others are incapable of seeing beauty within themselves. There are many ways that attraction can manifest and be discovered; why limit ourselves to the paradigm(s) of what mass-consciousness suggests as an exclusive definition of "beauty"? Peace... ~J


As always...

Perfectly put!
To follow on to what TG said. There is an element of perfection oft overlooked.

You are perfect. You are precisely and perfectly you. No one is more perfectly you than you. Others can only imitate the perfection that you innately are.

What have been identified as imperfections are exactly opposite that. They are perfections. The delicate touches, the careful accents.. the final touches that make you perfectly and distinctly You.
http://www.christianhut.com/look-at-yourself-after-watching-this-video/

before you judge others, remember others struggle more than we do. Don't allow your mind to go there. Watch this guy and I promise your next sex will be off the wall.