I Just dont understand why a single guys without a family under say 35 would be single for more than a few months?? I cant understand why you guys hang around here so much and for so long without a gal to bring into the game?
I got married at 28 but I dont think I was sans GF for more than a few months after I was 20.
I think some of you should go out and snag us all another female to add to this party.. When we go out it sure looks like alot of single galsare out there begging for attention and the guys standing with thumbs up there you know whats.
I got married at 28 but I dont think I was sans GF for more than a few months after I was 20.
I think some of you should go out and snag us all another female to add to this party.. When we go out it sure looks like alot of single galsare out there begging for attention and the guys standing with thumbs up there you know whats.
Thanks for the insightful reply Nomadic. I wasn't trying to start WWIII with this but after thoughtful discourse like yours. We sure didn't ask gals if they wanted to swing when I was young.. Maybe if they swallowed?? hehe
Maybemor:
There are a lot of couples on here and in the swing world that enjoy a chill and easy going single guy who is respectful. Just like guys want to have two women, there are women that want two guys (one for the mouth and one the pussy, DP, etc). Some of us have been in relationships and have had our long term things that didn't work out and maybe in the process of just enjoying life and enjoying the lifestyle.
I don't ever think that all couples should do single guy stuff...but to each their own...yeah i can go to the bar and get ass on any given night of the week...and still do at times or still date ..but not interested in a huge relationship right now...
I enjoy meeting people and making good friendships and playing when it comes to that..I was in Utah in the middle of may and I still talk to some of the members on here almost daily..not always about sex but about life, kids, school, work, weather, politics, etc...I enjoy those friendships and plan on keeping them for a long time whether or not i ever play with them again or not.
Jay in chicago (YES all you Utah'ers come visit me!!!)
There are a lot of couples on here and in the swing world that enjoy a chill and easy going single guy who is respectful. Just like guys want to have two women, there are women that want two guys (one for the mouth and one the pussy, DP, etc). Some of us have been in relationships and have had our long term things that didn't work out and maybe in the process of just enjoying life and enjoying the lifestyle.
I don't ever think that all couples should do single guy stuff...but to each their own...yeah i can go to the bar and get ass on any given night of the week...and still do at times or still date ..but not interested in a huge relationship right now...
I enjoy meeting people and making good friendships and playing when it comes to that..I was in Utah in the middle of may and I still talk to some of the members on here almost daily..not always about sex but about life, kids, school, work, weather, politics, etc...I enjoy those friendships and plan on keeping them for a long time whether or not i ever play with them again or not.
Jay in chicago (YES all you Utah'ers come visit me!!!)
Some people enjoy single life simple as that. Some people prefer being in relationships, some people enjoy being single. You don't have to have a significant other to be happy. Whatever works for each individual.
Besides, if there weren't young hot single guys on this site, I'd miss out on a LOT of fun. So I'm glad some of them are perfectly happy being single.
KITTY
Besides, if there weren't young hot single guys on this site, I'd miss out on a LOT of fun. So I'm glad some of them are perfectly happy being single.
KITTY
@Nomadic: don't rule yourself out buddy. 
i said young, not younger than me
i said young, not younger than me I just got out of a relationship and am in no mood to dive back into one. Human beings are at the most basic level, individuals first. Would a female half help me get laid more often with the community? Probably. Is it ethical to hunt down a single female just to get in your pants? Less likely.
I'm perfectly happy to be a single guy right now, beholden to nobody, and free to be accepted or not based solely on my own merits. As the old song goes, "I ain't got no body, and nobody got me!"
I'm perfectly happy to be a single guy right now, beholden to nobody, and free to be accepted or not based solely on my own merits. As the old song goes, "I ain't got no body, and nobody got me!"
Lol - frankly - I want to answer this from the perspective of the "socially retarded". See, some of us just don't do well with girlfriends. So why would we do well with marriage? On top of that - I have seen a lot of people in absolutely miserable marriages - and not just because they can't have sex with other people. Because their spouses (male and female) have made their lives an absolute hell. And I do not want to live in absolute hell.
And not all single gals are begging for attention. Sex maybe...attention...not so much. Some of us don't want/need someone under foot 24/7. Look, if any of us find the so called right person, then sure it can develope into whatever it becomes into but in the meantime single isn't a kiss of death, unless it's YOUR half who decides it's your new status. While I hate sleeping alone, i also love the fact that no one is farting under the covers and burying my head under there either. I might not be thrilled with that the perfect cock takes batteries but at least I don't have to shave my legs for it.
Pros and cons to both sides of the coin. We need to stop flipping it to see who has the better end of the deal and spend it on something worth buying. Like a life.
Pros and cons to both sides of the coin. We need to stop flipping it to see who has the better end of the deal and spend it on something worth buying. Like a life.
being single is like staring through a window at what looks like an awesome fucking party...Ur sitting outside saying "damn, i want in there!"...but the guy in the party is cursing saying,"ive been at this party for 6 fuckin years, im tired of this party, i want to visit new parties!
so pretty much both sides have their advantage...i was single for most of my adult life and loved it...but having someone to do all my naughty fantasies with is just as awesome
so pretty much both sides have their advantage...i was single for most of my adult life and loved it...but having someone to do all my naughty fantasies with is just as awesome
Maybemor, As a single older male entering the lifestyle I have not been in a hurry to find a sexual relationship and really have just been finding a place that felt comfortable to me and attempting to just get to know a few people and looking for the right friendships in the lifestyle and making sure that this is where I belong. I guess that a lot of them are simply doing the same.
A lot has changed since you and I were in our 20
A lot has changed since you and I were in our 20
my thoughts are....IF u like to be single..great...my experiences so far is that after a couple of years..people change and u get tired of the person ur with with so many new ways to meet people and connect to someone else y have just one? I guess thats what swinging is for...but u dont have to run off and get married(though thats what everyone in utah does) ...im not perfect, ive been divorced and i learned my lesson..so y not just have fun until ur old...u live for lets say...70 years so y get married and only have one person for 40 or 50 years
Nice thread folks... keep it going... been a long time since We were single and things have sure changed.
I have noticed multiple single girls on here who look like they would love to find a guy who is accepting of their sexuality and given the choice would let you do whatever you wanted. Looks like a win win. Just sayin.
It is interesting to see the difference sociologically between men and women. I really do not think there are more single men out there demographically then single men. Actually I think the numbers tend to favor the men when it comes to numbers. Now where these "single" women go to find men is another story. I know women who would rather not bother with dating men because it's so old and takes too much energy. But then there are women who withdraw, surrounding themselves with girl friends, kids, or finding other ways to stay unapproachable. Then there is a the societal pressure to not be a "slut", or "easy". A swinger site would be the LAST place a single woman would come in most cases. Even look at most of the single women on this site, most are from previous marriages that were lifestyle couples. They just understand what this is all about, does not make them loose at all.
Men tend to congregate where they can get sex. It's that simple. Clubs, bars, fruit stands at grocery stores and yes, Swinging sites like this one. In most cases men are better at compartmentalizing the sex from relationships. So why not is really the question most ask themselves, and it would be the one I'd ask myself as well if I was single. Why not have sex with a married women, where her husband is more then okay with you having sex with her, everyone is aware of what is going on, and usually the woman wants no emotional relationship with you at all. BONUS!!
I do have some friends though that swear the local LDS singles site is a meat market for horny single women. This actually makes a lot of sense in a demented way. Many of these women come from a culture that is bent on religious control. So now they have some freedom, but they don't want to come across as a slut, so no AFF or Swingular for them, but a good dating site (religious) and they in their mind can feel they are just trying to find a real relationship, where they as well want just a good "fucking" and then move on as well.
Anyway.. would love to see some study done with single men and women, in regards to where they frequent in terms of online locations for Love, connection and just plain old sex.
Men tend to congregate where they can get sex. It's that simple. Clubs, bars, fruit stands at grocery stores and yes, Swinging sites like this one. In most cases men are better at compartmentalizing the sex from relationships. So why not is really the question most ask themselves, and it would be the one I'd ask myself as well if I was single. Why not have sex with a married women, where her husband is more then okay with you having sex with her, everyone is aware of what is going on, and usually the woman wants no emotional relationship with you at all. BONUS!!
I do have some friends though that swear the local LDS singles site is a meat market for horny single women. This actually makes a lot of sense in a demented way. Many of these women come from a culture that is bent on religious control. So now they have some freedom, but they don't want to come across as a slut, so no AFF or Swingular for them, but a good dating site (religious) and they in their mind can feel they are just trying to find a real relationship, where they as well want just a good "fucking" and then move on as well.
Anyway.. would love to see some study done with single men and women, in regards to where they frequent in terms of online locations for Love, connection and just plain old sex.
MAYBEMOR wrote:]
Nice thread folks... keep it going... been a long time since We were single and things have sure changed.
Well - it sounds like you just don't understand that not everybody is good at dating, and not everybody wants to date. You said you were rarely without a girlfriend - so your view of the single world is way different than the view that many of us have. Quite a few singles don't really date that much. And quite a few of us, myself included, almost completely hate it. For so many reasons.
ABCWOMAN wrote:
I do have some friends though that swear the local LDS singles site is a meat market for horny single women. This actually makes a lot of sense in a demented way. Many of these women come from a culture that is bent on religious control. So now they have some freedom, but they don't want to come across as a slut, so no AFF or Swingular for them, but a good dating site (religious) and they in their mind can feel they are just trying to find a real relationship, where they as well want just a good "fucking" and then move on as well.
Hmm.....might be good advice for us single men
Tell me about it. Met the horniest but really judgemental returned missionary who called me a whore, hated that I was on swingular, told me he will never "have sex' but wanted me to get topless and give him a blow job every night after work. He got possessive and jealous and text me all freakin night long and went ballistic if I was with regular friends or if I didn't come over and perform for him Stupid asshat. I'd tell his bishop but we all know what that leads too...me corrupting more bishops. ~sigh~
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um....wow....that sounds like a story in and off itself - the bishop corruption part.
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
Tell me about it. Met the horniest but really judgemental returned missionary who called me a whore, hated that I was on swingular, told me he will never "have sex' but wanted me to get topless and give him a blow job every night after work. He got possessive and jealous and text me all freakin night long and went ballistic if I was with regular friends or if I didn't come over and perform for him Stupid asshat. I'd tell his bishop but we all know what that leads too...me corrupting more bishops. ~sigh~
um....wow....that sounds like a story in and off itself - the bishop corruption part.
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
Tell me about it. Met the horniest but really judgemental returned missionary who called me a whore, hated that I was on swingular, told me he will never "have sex' but wanted me to get topless and give him a blow job every night after work. He got possessive and jealous and text me all freakin night long and went ballistic if I was with regular friends or if I didn't come over and perform for him Stupid asshat. I'd tell his bishop but we all know what that leads too...me corrupting more bishops. ~sigh~
Well blueeyes, I think that is more the norm today than many would think.
I was raised LDS and in my church going days you always heard no tea, coffee, or booze but sex was seldom mentioned. The only rant was it was dirty and to wait until marriage when by a miracle it became clean and wholesome and I doubt that the word has changed in the slightest. We used to joke about the guys that went on a mission and came back an octopus.
My mother was first married to a fighter pilot for a while and used to tell us as teens that the fly boys of WWII had a saying about Mormon girls. It went something like
Maybe its just my experience (male typing), but every single female I have ever met in the lifestyle was trying to find a mate. They'd be on AFF until they found a BF then go off, until they broke up at least. Whenever I would meet the females, even though I always had a GF, they'd be asking questions as if they were dating me/us, not meeting us to fuck. This situation even applied to many women who were currently in relationships, whether married or shacked up.
With the single men, they wanted to get laid. Many times we found that they never participated in MFM or MMFM or MMFMM or....anyway, you get the picture...actions, so they have some issues. As Ron Jeremy said, 'You think acting is hard, try to remember your lines while maintaining a hard on!' So, yes, indeed it goes without saying, there's been many times where Jr. didn't 'rise' to the occasion.
I know I am not the only one who's had this experience, as my fiance has had the same thing happening with her since she entered the lifestyle.
So, why do men not get a GF to enter the lifestyle?
There's as many reasons as there are men.
The better question would be, 'Why would you want to know this about men but not about women?'
With the single men, they wanted to get laid. Many times we found that they never participated in MFM or MMFM or MMFMM or....anyway, you get the picture...actions, so they have some issues. As Ron Jeremy said, 'You think acting is hard, try to remember your lines while maintaining a hard on!' So, yes, indeed it goes without saying, there's been many times where Jr. didn't 'rise' to the occasion.
I know I am not the only one who's had this experience, as my fiance has had the same thing happening with her since she entered the lifestyle.
So, why do men not get a GF to enter the lifestyle?
There's as many reasons as there are men.
The better question would be, 'Why would you want to know this about men but not about women?'
Well I think one quick answer for women is most are Bi and are using this as a way to fulfill that need, desire, fantasy??
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
Tell me about it. Met the horniest but really judgemental returned missionary who called me a whore, hated that I was on swingular, told me he will never "have sex' but wanted me to get topless and give him a blow job every night after work. He got possessive and jealous and text me all freakin night long and went ballistic if I was with regular friends or if I didn't come over and perform for him Stupid asshat. I'd tell his bishop but we all know what that leads too...me corrupting more bishops. ~sigh~
Will never "have sex" but wants a blowjob every night.
Interesting.
His name wouldn't be Bill Clinton, by any chance, would it?
MAYBEMOR wrote:
Well I think one quick answer for women is most are Bi and are using this as a way to fulfill that need, desire, fantasy??
Really?
Most experiences I have had were with bi-curious women, as in women who were curious what a bi woman can do for them.
MAYBEMOR wrote:
I Just dont understand why a single guys without a family under say 35 would be single for more than a few months?? I cant understand why you guys hang around here so much and for so long without a gal to bring into the game?
I got married at 28 but I dont think I was sans GF for more than a few months after I was 20.
I think some of you should go out and snag us all another female to add to this party.. When we go out it sure looks like alot of single galsare out there begging for attention and the guys standing with thumbs up there you know whats.
Maybe some of us SM just like being single. Its cheaper, Easier, Less Drama and we get more sex then if we had a GF or wife more then likely. I dont like answering to anyone and that is why i stay single, I Own my own house. Have toys and live the good life as a single person. Marriage is not for everyone
ABCWOMAN wrote:
Men tend to congregate where they can get sex. It's that simple. Clubs, bars, fruit stands at grocery stores and yes, Swinging sites like this one. In most cases men are better at compartmentalizing the sex from relationships. So why not is really the question most ask themselves, and it would be the one I'd ask myself as well if I was single. Why not have sex with a married women, where her husband is more then okay with you having sex with her, everyone is aware of what is going on, and usually the woman wants no emotional relationship with you at all. BONUS!!
Yup, I think you hit the nail on the head there.
I enjoy dating and do plenty of it, however not everyone I take out is someone I want to sleep with, nor introduce them to this group of friends. When I find the right one for me and the group, I will be more then happy to share. And not all of us are perverts