Swingers Forum - Anyone else tired of the "bi-female" ploy?

Well, I don't know why you're complaining when YOUR profile says "BI-curious".......... How about you explain that first.

Wow..I see trouble on the horizon...but getting in anyway.

If you like a woman you are a Lesbian..not Bi? Hmm..no.
Last I knew Bi..means TWO...like in male..AND female.
Believe it or not...All of the ladies we have been with REALLY have enjoyed both....and EVERYONE has been in on the fun! Wouldn't change a thing there..nope!


But..Think you are right about one thing..there is an issue with just what Bi-curious..and bi-comfortable means..and We do feel that there are a number of girls who say they are bi-something in their profile..just to attract more interest..when..in fact..they are not. And yes..we have run up against a few of these. Not just guessing here.

As for JVMP's Remark about bi couples not wanting single guys...please notice that MOST couples..only the ladies are bi..the men are not. And..quite frankly..most ladies, I'm sure think like mine..Bi or not...THEY want their husband or partner to "get a little something" too..and honestly....a single guy dosen't have anything to bring to the table there. Sorry.

Let the flaming start..got my asbestos underwear on...

But unicorns are so pretty, and sportingly elusive ;-)

UTHOTCPLEXTREME wrote:

You know it's really getting old. It seems as though every single couple or single F profile out there is looking for a bi-female or a couple. Why the bi-female? Women are you honestly going to tell me that all you can think about is getting with another woman? I think we all know, in the end you are looking to get rocked by the male half. I've seen it time and time again where a woman willingly submits to another woman with full intention of doing so to get to the male half. I don't believe that everyone woman on this site is bi. Bi is a ridiculous word anyway. If you like women you are a lesbian. And in these cases lesbians don't sleep with men. Or at least most of them don't. My point is that it's so one-sided. How often do you see couples that want a single male or a couple? Yes they do exist but more often than not it's the female they are looking for. This is a double plus for the single female because she gets it from both ends if you know what I mean. I just think the whole "bi female" thing is getting over used and it's overrated. Isn't it just women wanting to have sex with women? Then having sex with a man when they are done exploring? And ultimately, isn't this what a woman really wants? You can't tell me some cold, plastic strap-on and a tongue are going to give you lifelong satisfaction. A big, stiff, hard cock will surely be required at some point. Anyway, I would like to hear what others think about this. Please be constructive and give me something with substance. Something that makes sense and justifies all this woman on woman stuff. I have a feeling men are becomming obsolete...

If you like women, you are a lesbian? Wow, I guess you are right on the money when it comes to classifications...

wow what a hot topic i dont think any male would complane about a "bi" if he was giving it to here while she was eating another "bi" out. sounds like fun to me

WOw. Do what you like, like what you do & call it whatever the F you want!! Women are soft, beautiful and WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more attractive and sexy than any man. I ADORE my man and find myself 100% NOT looking for another cock-- just the pure pleasure of sweet pussy in and around my fingers and face. Thank You & Enjoy!

Dammit. I spent the whole damn day in the kitchen baking bread, making cookies, and simmering enchilada sauce and missed the drama.

From now on if someone is going to have the audacity to speak for me, correct me on MY terms of being bi-what-the-fuck-ever I am, would SOMEONE please text, call, send a smoke signal, so I can be enlightened by YET another person who has it all figured out.

Maybe if I spent less time in the kitchen and more time fucking I would get it right.

Cookie anyone? I got chocolate toffee chip or for a calorie fat free "cookie", my pussy for that woman is still under the misguided notion she thinks I'm sexy and fuckable.

xox
Tammy

I'm not going to get into what is what here as I dont really know what the exact definitions of the be things mean. From my searches on this and several other sites there are very few st8t gals like less than 1%
That is a fact.
My theory is that if a gal has an interest in exploring something with a gal and tells her hubby Most husbands would be looking on the web the hour later or less. Its not like he can provide fulfillment to this want and most guy have this fantasy too. If a gal tells hubby she needs more sex he might be able to provide that need without exploring this area.

UTHOTCPLEXTREME wrote:

You know it's really getting old. It seems as though every single couple or single F profile out there is looking for a bi-female or a couple. Why the bi-female? Women are you honestly going to tell me that all you can think about is getting with another woman? I think we all know, in the end you are looking to get rocked by the male half. I've seen it time and time again where a woman willingly submits to another woman with full intention of doing so to get to the male half. I don't believe that everyone woman on this site is bi. Bi is a ridiculous word anyway. If you like women you are a lesbian. And in these cases lesbians don't sleep with men. Or at least most of them don't. My point is that it's so one-sided. How often do you see couples that want a single male or a couple? Yes they do exist but more often than not it's the female they are looking for. This is a double plus for the single female because she gets it from both ends if you know what I mean. I just think the whole "bi female" thing is getting over used and it's overrated. Isn't it just women wanting to have sex with women? Then having sex with a man when they are done exploring? And ultimately, isn't this what a woman really wants? You can't tell me some cold, plastic strap-on and a tongue are going to give you lifelong satisfaction. A big, stiff, hard cock will surely be required at some point. Anyway, I would like to hear what others think about this. Please be constructive and give me something with substance. Something that makes sense and justifies all this woman on woman stuff. I have a feeling men are becomming obsolete...

In one (single) man's opinion, I've made a couple observations that have me very confused about your post.
Unless I missed the mark completely, your vote seems to be against bi females.
And I have no way of knowing if this was posted by the male or female half of your releationship.
Yet, as has already been mentioned, the female half of your profile is listed as bi.
Also, as best I can count, all but one of the several couples you've played with, who have left comments in your profile, lists the female as bi in their profile.
You seem to have gone to great lengths to eloquently state your case in your post - yet I for one come away from it not knowing exactly what it is you're trying to say - or what YOUR stand on the issue is.

NAUGHTYGIRL101 wrote:

Oh shit...I'm lesbian?? Man, nobody tell Lucky, it might ruin his day

Don't look now sweetheart, butt by the above stated definition - Lucky and I are lesbians too.

CARRIERMAN wrote:

NAUGHTYGIRL101 wrote:

Oh shit...I'm lesbian?? Man, nobody tell Lucky, it might ruin his day

Don't look now sweetheart, butt by the above stated definition - Lucky and I are lesbians too.

Oh ok, well then we can just have one giant pussy licking party...I'm ok with that...but of course my only goal in doing this is to get to whatever dick might be around so I can have my world rocked...ppfftt *giggles*

*sigh* I know I shouldn't even jump on this bandwagon.... but as a Bi-sexual single female, (female being the operative word here) I just can't help myself.... I consider myself bi because i like being with men and women equally well.... I love being with a woman and offering her all the sexual things that I like... sex with a woman is sensual and nurturing and soft and frankly when I am with a woman I don't want a "strap on" or toys (with few exceptions) or anything other than her mouth, fingers, and breasts and I am perfectly content to have playtime with just a woman. If I want a strap on I'll go find me a man to satisfy that need... and yes I like a good hard cock just as much... but it's a whole different experience... and I like being with a couple, I enjoy bringing pleasure to both of them, and enjoy receiving from both... that is really my ultimate sexual encounter!!
I'm pretty sure that makes me NOT a lesbian, more than bi-curious and probably more than bi-comfortable
hope that helps....

What freakin difference does it make? Each persons profile is what THEY want it to be and if it does or doesn't attract the people they are looking for, who are you to put it out there to say what is being "overused" or getting "old". Gimme a break. If your not interested because someone puts "bi-sexual" then search the profiles that better fit what "you" are looking for. Geez for real! I think sometimes people post shit like this on here to get a rise! (no pun intended) But honestly people, this is a "swinging" site where people are looking for fantasy and fun. We might not like what everyone chooses on their profile but that is why we have "choice". I don't judge whether your straight, gay, bi, or other. We know what we want and what we are looking for and that is why we are here.

MASSMN, you might want to try a "dating" site, such as MATCH.COM.....just sayin

hmmm... it seems like one aspect of the original post was a question as to whether the women on this site were being truthful about their bi status; seems he was wondering if that many women truly are bi (whatever the definition). Only speaking from personal experience here, but in our foolin' around I have been told by several of the wives, even those that list "bi-sexual" on their profiles, that they really aren't bi or "aren't that bi." Are they mirroring my assertion of being straight so as not to offend, or is it that since they know I'm not bi, they feel free to admit the same? ...who knows. It has made me wonder if some people, though certainly not all, indicate they are bi because it seems expected here.

BTW, I (the wife) consider myself solidly straight, as in, I just don't - no matter how hard I've tried or how much I've wanted to - get turned on by women, I just don't. Yes, women are beautiful, sexy, smell good, they're soft, not hairy, lol, but to me men are sexier. A black and white photo of David Beckham... all sweaty, glistening, hard, and angular... wow. That being said, I've kissed or touched sensuously most of the women in the couples we've been with. Some was incidental, some was right time/right place, some was for show. If they've really wanted to do go down on me, I've kind of taken a what-the-hell attitude - if something feels good, it feels good, right? I'm very appreciative, but up front about not being into girls and not being interested in reciprocating oral.

We're relatively new here and I was amazed at first at how many girls describe themselves as bi. I thought it must be part of the sexual liberation that this lifestyle seems to bring. Maybe that is a bit piece of it... the freedom to try and see

K.

ok, fuck it.. Here's my 2 cents. Pluto, my dog is a loveable little bugger. He's always there with a lick to my nose and cuddles on my lap. When I get home from work, he always greets me with his playful barks and tail waggin so hard, you'd swear his back was gonna break in two.

Watts

Maybe this will help by describing my experience with the terms:

Bi-sexual women...are usually attracted to and like/enjoy/want to have sexual interaction with BOTH sexes...usually caressing, touching, oral, etc. We bi-sexual women tend to get just as passionate (if not more) with a woman as we do with a man. It doesn't usually include a strap on for me, I have the real thing.

Bi-comfortable and Bi-friendly seem to be pretty much the same- she thinks "I'm okay with another woman caressing, touching, and/or doing oral on me....I MIGHT respond with booby play or some kissing to give my man a show but it'll be a cold day in Hell before I ever reciprocate oral on another woman." Basically there are usually 3 reasons a woman does this:

1)They want to be the center of attention with their man and the woman they choose. This also helps them feel more comfortable with their man playing with another woman.

or

2)They are just doing it to turn their man on even tho it is not something they personally desire, they want a man. This is just a show and it's all an act.

or

3)It makes them feel desired to be played with by another woman...that they are attractive to both sexes. It's an ego boost.

I love truly bi-sexual women and at times, the bi-friendly/comfortable women too...sometimes I like to just spoil another woman without any reciprocation. It just depends on her personality and my mood. I will say that even tho I love going down on a woman, I am only half lesbian :P

I love girl juice and sausage for breakfast... especially when the girl fixed breakfast for me

As has been repeated in the Forums more times than I can count, there's a stigma to a man admitting to being bi, bi-curious, or bi-comfortable that doesn't exist where women are concerned.
Most men who fit into any of the above categories would never admit it in their profiles, and would certainly not admit it to the world.
Why?
Because we are a very biased and judgemental society.
It's always been acceptable for women to hold hands, dance together, go powder their nose together, etc.
And here in the Lifestyle, you'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE who looks down their nose at a bi woman.
Butt let a man even HINT at being bi-curious, and his fate is sealed.
Women, bi or otherwise, are far more tolerant of bi men than straight men are.
I suspect there are far more men with bi interests here on Swingular and other sites (and in the Lifestyle in general) than profiles reveal.
Many profiles specifically delete bi men, yet welcome bi women.
And, as a significant number of folks/couples have admitted here in other past Forum posts, the #1 reason they won't play with another couple with a bi man is because the mere idea freaks their hubby out.
Are there as many bi females as the profiles would suggest? Don't know - butt I suspect there are.
Are there far more bi men than the profiles would suggest? Don't know - butt I suspect there are.

Remove the bi stigma from men, and we'll see a LOT more of them come "out of the............."

Damn! I created a shit storm with this post. I knew it would though, hence my reason for posting it. And, thank you for the few who got what I was after and I did leave the post sort of vague which allowed some great debate and some soul searching. Love it.

So, a few of the points made are what I was after. Yes, my wife's status says "bi". Is she truly bi? I don't think so. She likes men. But the reason she puts bi is because there is such an incredible amount of couples looking for just a woman to join in the fun. Now would my wife join in the fun and dabble in a little clittle and some nipple if it got her to the cock? Yep, abso-fuckin-lutely. I don't really think that women are on a path just to get laid by a man and I believe many women and couple are on here to explore. We did it. After we explored, the wife decided she's definitely a connoisseur of the cock. Do I have issues with her wanting other men? No. Am I so insecure that I take away my wife's ability to try other men and just steer her towards being bi so she can play with women, only to deprive her of the reciprocation? No. That's just not fair is it?

So to some of you posters who got your chests all puffed out and stood up for the right of your bi-curious, bi-sexual, bi-whatever couples and singles.. relax. I'm not trying to start a war here but it definitely seems to have stirred some debate hasn't it? If it were so cut and dry I don't think this post would have had much attention.

So, my summary is this. There are women out there that like to play with women. I get that. But how many women are deprived of playing with men because their husbands are insecure? C'mon husbands, seeing your wife get laid is equally hot. Trust me. It's not going to make her think less of you and if she does, then maybe you are in the wrong lifestyle. Sex is sex. It's like taking a big dildo to her only it's warm, responds to her needs and cums in the end. Much funner would you agree? You have to detach yourself from the "OMG that guys going to fuck my wife away from me". Has it happened? Yes of course but it happens all the time even outside of this lifestyle. I truly believe that we are flooded with bi-women because men are insecure and scared to play it both ways.

I also truly believe that there are definitely less bi men because let's be honest, like one poster said, women are hot. Men are harry and brute like. I mean who wants to watch two Jeeps fuck? We like the sensuality, the softness, the beautiful skin just like women do in other women. So it's just not sexy seeing two men take it in the ass. I might be speaking for myself but I think a lot of dudes would agree. We want to watch the Superbowl and drink beer sometimes, not shoot on each others faces.. lol

Anyway, we are all libertines here. This lifestyle is about freedom and expression in whatever form you like and whatever form another single or couple is willing to let you explore. I get that. But I think we all need to be honest about our intentions, our real sexuality and not be afraid to call it like it is. Damn it women if you like men and want to try out another guy, say it! And to you who think I'm pissed off because I'm not getting enough pussy? Think again. My wife is 100% beautiful and I don't need any other pussy then the one she has. But, we play and we explore just like the rest of you because it's a blast! Legal kitchen passes. Can't beat that right? Sex feels good and there is nothing wrong with feeling good.

So, bi for now, I hope I haven't burned any bridges? LOL. And if this post offended anyone, sorry about that too. We really are an easy going, laid back fun couple. I just like to stir the shit in forums once in awhile to see where it leads. This one was fun!!

PS, the Male half wrote all the posts.

BRAVO Tamara!

Sounds like you're a confused bistander..

Enough with this simple topic.
Someone who is Bi-curious/comfortable need not put it as tour preference on your profile.
Just write it in your profile, so you can explain yourself, for people to read.
I would hope that anyone your interested in who has the tag "Bi-curious/comfortable" on their profile
you would talk to them first anyway.
WE STILL DO VERBILIZE TODAY DON'T WE...
I do have to admitt I don't see how a "HUSBAND" can enjoy watching his "WIFE" who he loves getting banged by another guy.
But I guess that's a separate topic on it's own.

I think I'm tired of this post...and yes, I do realize I have the choice of NOT reading it

WILDSPIRIT wrote:

[quote=JNK204] JNK204- can I use some of that in my profile?

Lol! Feel free. No copyright issues here...

I'm in agreement with Thoughtgarden. I think I just sprained my brain. But having come from a relationship with a very bi woman, I can say that bisexuality does exist and to say that they are nothing but lesbians is a bit much.