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That behavior had nothing to do with being a swinger and everything to do with being a complete asshat.
-Mr. FP
-Mr. FP
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Thank you guys...what really disappoints me is that this is a very well known couple in the lifestyle...I am just appalled at this kind of behavior...and the girl she said these things too...she is absolutely beautiful, a little bit bigger of a girl, but beautiful...and this scrawny twit had no right to say those things to her!!
omg.
tell me she at least had the excuse she was "drinking".
never mind. when children are present there is NO excuse to act like a trashy whore with no social skills. hope the hosts had the common sense to ask her to leave. nobody can be that desperate for friends to let it slide.
and before anyone gets their panties in a wad over you posting this, remember, had the person in question used good judgment and had some class to begin with, this post wouldn't exist.
but for the record, flashing boobs at a swinger event is highly recommended and if i had a boob job i would be showing any ADULT who wanted to check them out if they so much as hinted. LOL
tell me she at least had the excuse she was "drinking".
never mind. when children are present there is NO excuse to act like a trashy whore with no social skills. hope the hosts had the common sense to ask her to leave. nobody can be that desperate for friends to let it slide.
and before anyone gets their panties in a wad over you posting this, remember, had the person in question used good judgment and had some class to begin with, this post wouldn't exist.
but for the record, flashing boobs at a swinger event is highly recommended and if i had a boob job i would be showing any ADULT who wanted to check them out if they so much as hinted. LOL
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
omg. tell me she at least had the excuse she was "drinking". never mind. when children are present there is NO excuse to act like a trashy whore with no social skills. hope the hosts had the common sense to ask her to leave. nobody can be that desperate for friends to let it slide. and before anyone gets their panties in a wad over you posting this, remember, had the person in question used good judgment and had some class to begin with, this post wouldn't exist. but for the record, flashing boobs at a swinger event is highly recommended and if i had a boob job i would be showing any ADULT who wanted to check them out if they so much as hinted. LOL
HELL, at a Swinger event, I'll even flash MY boobs if it will help get me laid.
Haha...I have a hard time keeping the girls in as it is...as soon as their "fixed"...any appropriate event...they will be out!!
And very well put Blue...thanks
And very well put Blue...thanks
I am finding it very hard to come up with a nice rational "adult" response to this since it was one of my very very very best friends that this happened to and the "daughter" in question is like a daughter to me. So I will just say this, this "person" is so very fucking lucky that my friend did not find out about the remarks to her daughter until the following day! All other disgusting behavior aside, she deserves to be smacked down for that alone! This is a very impressionable "tween" girl who already has bully kids at school messing with her self esteem she doesn't need it from adults who should be building her up not tearing her down!
COUNTRYBIKERS wrote:
I am finding it very hard to come up with a nice rational "adult" response to this since it was one of my very very very best friends that this happened to and the "daughter" in question is like a daughter to me. So I will just say this, this "person" is so very fucking lucky that my friend did not find out about the remarks to her daughter until the following day! All other disgusting behavior aside, she deserves to be smacked down for that alone! This is a very impressionable "tween" girl who already has bully kids at school messing with her self esteem she doesn't need it from adults who should be building her up not tearing her down!
Not saying to do it here, butt within the "circle" I would "OUT" her to everyone - just so they know.
Unacceptable behavior should be rewarded in just such a way.
Oh I would never name her here, I have way more class than her apparently! But doesn't mean I will necessarily remain quiet either
OK, whipping them out in front of children I'll let pass. Not because she was drunk or had any other excuse, but simply because I don't see any issues with nudity, in front of kids or not. And I've known too many vanilla women who show them off at damn near anyplace when they get the puppies enhanced.
But to climb all over hubby in a sexual fashion? Not really much excuse in a place where public displays of affection aren't going that way for the group.
And making any kind of negative comment about a child's looks is just really crass and uncalled for.
But to climb all over hubby in a sexual fashion? Not really much excuse in a place where public displays of affection aren't going that way for the group.
And making any kind of negative comment about a child's looks is just really crass and uncalled for.
DARKNLADYJEDI wrote:
OK, whipping them out in front of children I'll let pass. Not because she was drunk or had any other excuse, but simply because I don't see any issues with nudity, in front of kids or not.
I have to say that I simply do not agree with your statement. If they are NOT your children, you don't get to decide nudity or flashing tits in front of them is ok. Period.
I hope I misunderstood you, and if I did, I apologize for making a big deal out of it. I'm a mom and if ANY of my friends did that they would find my fist in their face.
As to the rest of your response, I totally agree with it.
One of you that know who it is - send me a private message and I'll OUT them. There is absolutely no excuse for what she did - if she purports to be an adult then she can take the outing. The daughter who was humiliated will be scarred much longer.
COUNTRYBIKERS wrote:
I am finding it very hard to come up with a nice rational "adult" response to this since it was one of my very very very best friends that this happened to and the "daughter" in question is like a daughter to me. So I will just say this, this "person" is so very fucking lucky that my friend did not find out about the remarks to her daughter until the following day! All other disgusting behavior aside, she deserves to be smacked down for that alone! This is a very impressionable "tween" girl who already has bully kids at school messing with her self esteem she doesn't need it from adults who should be building her up not tearing her down!
Time to remove the "very best Friend" title. And in front of children, sorry but I
don't even go to Nudist parks just for that reason.
MASSMN wrote:
Time to remove the "very best Friend" title. And in front of children, sorry but I
don't even go to Nudist parks just for that reason.
I'm sorry, I am confused...... Why would I remove the best friend title? My friend is vanilla and was at a vanilla party and all things mentioned were done TO her and her daughter and all the other vanillas and children at the party..... Perhaps you were confused and thought I was friends with the "offender" not the "offended"?
4BANDS2 wrote:
One of you that know who it is - send me a private message and I'll OUT them. There is absolutely no excuse for what she did - if she purports to be an adult then she can take the outing. The daughter who was humiliated will be scarred much longer.
As much as I would love too...I am an adult and I just can't do it...these kinds of people will dig their own grave and others will see them for who they are...this isn't the only behavior I have seen/heard of from them and it won't be long before others do too, but I will be tactful enough to not name names...sorry
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
I have to say that I simply do not agree with your statement. If they are NOT your children, you don't get to decide nudity or flashing tits in front of them is ok. Period.
I hope I misunderstood you, and if I did, I apologize for making a big deal out of it. I'm a mom and if ANY of my friends did that they would find my fist in their face.
As to the rest of your response, I totally agree with it.
Agreed!
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:DARKNLADYJEDI wrote:
OK, whipping them out in front of children I'll let pass. Not because she was drunk or had any other excuse, but simply because I don't see any issues with nudity, in front of kids or not.
I have to say that I simply do not agree with your statement. If they are NOT your children, you don't get to decide nudity or flashing tits in front of them is ok. Period.
I hope I misunderstood you, and if I did, I apologize for making a big deal out of it. I'm a mom and if ANY of my friends did that they would find my fist in their face.
As to the rest of your response, I totally agree with it.
Oh don't worry, I respect your opinion. I just don't have any hangups about nudity. Simple anatomy isn't a big deal, around children or not IMHO. If you talk to children who grew up where nudity wasn't a big deal you will find they are generally more well adjusted towards sex than those who grew up where nudity was taboo. Same for family nudist resorts/parks/beaches.
That said, there is a distinct difference between simple nudity and sexual nudity. Popping the girls out to show off the new "enhancements", no big deal to me. Popping the girls out to make earmuffs out of them in front of kids, yeah, much bigger deal.
I can understand that to a degree. I nursed my babies and by no means did I feel inclined to nurse in hiding or use a cover up. I did try to be discreet and not whip out the whole boob while out in public but when at home, no big deal. I did grow up in a VERY conservative mormon household with a step mom who did not nurse and my parents were very prudish to say the least. Im not kidding. They told me to go into my own room or the baby nursery to nurse my son while they were in MY home. Uh. Not.
However, still, a friend of mine whips out her girls just to show them off in front of my boys, well, she's gonna need medical attention to her face next.
btw..I'm a little sensitive. My oldest one's girlfriend came over last saturday(the girl is 15) and she was wearing a low cut full cleavage shirt with spaghetti straps and she was laying and draping herself provocitively all over my son in front of his younger brothers. Ugh. I wanted to slap the slut right out of her.
However, still, a friend of mine whips out her girls just to show them off in front of my boys, well, she's gonna need medical attention to her face next.
btw..I'm a little sensitive. My oldest one's girlfriend came over last saturday(the girl is 15) and she was wearing a low cut full cleavage shirt with spaghetti straps and she was laying and draping herself provocitively all over my son in front of his younger brothers. Ugh. I wanted to slap the slut right out of her.
I have to assume from the conversation that the party was at a private home. Anytime someone goes to another
SEAKINGHER wrote:
But they do not swing with children present!!!!
If they did they should be taken out and shot.
OK, removing the whole "swinger" part of the issue. Did they behave poorly? Were they asked to tone it down? Were they asked to leave?
anyone that ive ever invited to come to my house when my kids are here knows btr to violate my kids in anyway , whether talking them down or showing anything , ya just dont do that ever, can get the parents in BIG trouble .... ever heard of dcfs..... thats problems u dont want
FRI3NDSPLUS wrote:
That behavior had nothing to do with being a swinger and everything to do with being a complete asshat.
-Mr. FP
I wholeheartedly agree with you here. That level of behavior is inappropriate for ANY gathering with minors. Wouldn't matter if every adult there was also a swinger. You just don't do that with children present.
From Blueeyes ....
but for the record, flashing boobs at a swinger event is highly recommended and if i had a boob job would be showing any ADULT who wanted to check them out if they so much as hinted. LOL
You don't need a boob job to have people wanting to see your boobs. Feel free to whip them out any old time.
but for the record, flashing boobs at a swinger event is highly recommended and if i had a boob job would be showing any ADULT who wanted to check them out if they so much as hinted. LOL
You don't need a boob job to have people wanting to see your boobs. Feel free to whip them out any old time.
I have to say that I don't agree AT ALL that those who know these people are keeping it mum. We're kinda new to this and have kids - teens who are very savy but who DO NOT know what mom and dad are up to. If the boob flashing happened at my house around my kids there'd be a lot of damage control to run afterward. They already know mom and dad have been dressing, er, different lately and going out a lot. I wouldn't need something like that to confirm or create suspicions. And, WTF on talking smack to a young girl! Not to sound too ghetto but I agree with blueeyes - that bitch would not make that mistake twice, although my weapons of choice are words not hands...
Not trying to come down on those who know this couple, but I work in the law & order world and one of the toughest things we deal with is people covering for the bad behavior of others. I understand not wanting to stoop to their level, but warning others is not stooping, its doing your daily good deed!! If they aren't willing to take responsibility for their behavior, maybe they need a little help!
Damn I'm heated here!!! (and not in a good way!)
K
Not trying to come down on those who know this couple, but I work in the law & order world and one of the toughest things we deal with is people covering for the bad behavior of others. I understand not wanting to stoop to their level, but warning others is not stooping, its doing your daily good deed!! If they aren't willing to take responsibility for their behavior, maybe they need a little help!
Damn I'm heated here!!! (and not in a good way!)
K
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
..... i would be showing any ADULT who wanted to check them out if they so much as hinted. LOL
HINT!! Pretty Please
POSSIBLECRAZY wrote:
Why didn't someone say something at the time?
I wasn't there myself otherwise you bet your arse I would have...and the girl didn't tell her mother what was said until the next morning
As far as why the 2 of us from here that know who it is don't name them...I feel like this, I was not there to personally see this, so it's not my place to name them, and being an adult I know it's not the right thing to do...and Admin would kick my butt if I publicly named someone lol
A little late on this post, but here's our two cents: We agree with all the foregoing, except the comment that whipping the boobs out in that context was appropriate for the kiddos.
NON-SEXUALIZED nudity, in the proper setting and context, can be healthy for children. From what was described, that was NOT the appropriate context and setting, and sounds like is was also at least borderline sexual in context. Also, like someone else said, you better damn well know that the kids and mom and dad are going to be okay with some nudity first.
The judgmental comments to the girl are 100% unacceptable. The whole idea of introducing children to non-sexualized nudity in the first place is to give them a grounding and understanding that their bodies are natural and beautiful, even if they don't look like everyone else. The comments and behavior together mark the flasher as vain, insecure and an "asshat", in our opinion.
Take the kiddos out of the equation, and we figure the adults can handle themselves, eh?
As for "outing" the flasher, we would only be interested in knowing the person's name so we could avoid inviting her to our home. Sounds like she's well on her way to outing herself anyway.
NON-SEXUALIZED nudity, in the proper setting and context, can be healthy for children. From what was described, that was NOT the appropriate context and setting, and sounds like is was also at least borderline sexual in context. Also, like someone else said, you better damn well know that the kids and mom and dad are going to be okay with some nudity first.
The judgmental comments to the girl are 100% unacceptable. The whole idea of introducing children to non-sexualized nudity in the first place is to give them a grounding and understanding that their bodies are natural and beautiful, even if they don't look like everyone else. The comments and behavior together mark the flasher as vain, insecure and an "asshat", in our opinion.
Take the kiddos out of the equation, and we figure the adults can handle themselves, eh?
As for "outing" the flasher, we would only be interested in knowing the person's name so we could avoid inviting her to our home. Sounds like she's well on her way to outing herself anyway.
FRI3NDSPLUS wrote:
That behavior had nothing to do with being a swinger and everything to do with being a complete asshat.
-Mr. FP
Lol!... "Asshat."
Wow, where do you begin with this? 1. Your at a vanillia party = no flirting or flashing! 2. Children are present! = no flirting or flashing! 3. Most importantly how Dare someone say anything hurtful to a child or anyone else for that matter = no class !! 4. These folks should be Outted I would hate for someone elses child to be the next victim because some folks dont have the testicular fortitude to speak out against such attrocities !! 5. This makes you as bad as them . Look in the mirror and ask yourself why you even posted this drama . Did you do it just to stirr the pot because you like the drama ? Or did you really want some good to come from this? Do the right thing and Out them and then ban them from all events. Bad things happen when good people do nothing to prevent it! Take a stand and choose your side there is no grey area here .
WENDYBLWMEHARDR wrote:
Wow, where do you begin with this? 1. Your at a vanillia party = no flirting or flashing! 2. Children are present! = no flirting or flashing! 3. Most importantly how Dare someone say anything hurtful to a child or anyone else for that matter = no class !! 4. These folks should be Outted I would hate for someone elses child to be the next victim because some folks dont have the testicular fortitude to speak out against such attrocities !! 5. This makes you as bad as them . Look in the mirror and ask yourself why you even posted this drama . Did you do it just to stirr the pot because you like the drama ? Or did you really want some good to come from this? Do the right thing and Out them and then ban them from all events. Bad things happen when good people do nothing to prevent it! Take a stand and choose your side there is no grey area here .
It is not allowed to OUT anyone in the forum on the website. If you out someone, Admin has the right to BAN you for outing someone.
WENDYBLWMEHARDR wrote:
Wow, where do you begin with this? 1. Your at a vanillia party = no flirting or flashing! 2. Children are present! = no flirting or flashing! 3. Most importantly how Dare someone say anything hurtful to a child or anyone else for that matter = no class !! 4. These folks should be Outted I would hate for someone elses child to be the next victim because some folks dont have the testicular fortitude to speak out against such attrocities !! 5. This makes you as bad as them . Look in the mirror and ask yourself why you even posted this drama . Did you do it just to stirr the pot because you like the drama ? Or did you really want some good to come from this? Do the right thing and Out them and then ban them from all events. Bad things happen when good people do nothing to prevent it! Take a stand and choose your side there is no grey area here .
Why do you choose to shoot the messenger? The person who did this reads these forums they know who they are. So in fact the original poster is doing something about it with out crossing any lines...And believe me it has not been easy for her . She wants to shout the name from the rooftop but it is not the ethical thing to do and it is against site policy. So she chooses to do what she can without crossing lines and now you come tell her she is just as bad as the person who did this? Wow very nice.......
WENDYBLWMEHARDR wrote:
Wow, where do you begin with this? 1. Your at a vanillia party = no flirting or flashing! 2. Children are present! = no flirting or flashing! 3. Most importantly how Dare someone say anything hurtful to a child or anyone else for that matter = no class !! 4. These folks should be Outted I would hate for someone elses child to be the next victim because some folks dont have the testicular fortitude to speak out against such attrocities !! 5. This makes you as bad as them . Look in the mirror and ask yourself why you even posted this drama . Did you do it just to stirr the pot because you like the drama ? Or did you really want some good to come from this? Do the right thing and Out them and then ban them from all events. Bad things happen when good people do nothing to prevent it! Take a stand and choose your side there is no grey area here .
As I said earlier, I am biting my tongue not screaming out who this person is...but as pointed out above, I would then be the one in trouble...so you ask why did I post this? No it was not to stir the pot or to cause drama (if I had outed them that would be causing drama)...of course I want good to come of this, I want people to realize that we as swingers have a bad rep as it is and we need to be aware that our behavior is seen by others and can affect everyone around us!
I have chosen a side...it's the side of being an adult and abiding by the guidelines that I agreed to when I signed up...I CAN NOT name the person...she knows who she is and she reads these forums and she will see that her behavior has disgusted many and hopefully she will act accordingly next time...the fact that you see me as bad as her...well that is your own opinion, but I know that I did the right thing here....
Kisses...Naugh-Ty
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I for one like my account and don't want to start a new one...so I think I'll stick to the rules...
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1. I have no doubt that the person in question has read this post and she knows who she is.
2. She has not spoke up to defend herself in anyway shape or form so HOPEFULLY see's the error of her ways and will no longer act inappropriately at Vanilla parties and/or in front of children again.
3. I HAVE read and follow the rules of this site and choose to continue to do so as I have made some very good friends who also follow the rules and even if I had the $300 to start a new account I would lose the respect of my friends.
4. I am a PROTECTOR of children and to suggest that either one of us is "as bad as" this person is disgusting and ignorant.
2. She has not spoke up to defend herself in anyway shape or form so HOPEFULLY see's the error of her ways and will no longer act inappropriately at Vanilla parties and/or in front of children again.
3. I HAVE read and follow the rules of this site and choose to continue to do so as I have made some very good friends who also follow the rules and even if I had the $300 to start a new account I would lose the respect of my friends.
4. I am a PROTECTOR of children and to suggest that either one of us is "as bad as" this person is disgusting and ignorant.
Some of you are just way over the top but anyway. Let me just say that, in my opinion, any excessive affection in front of children isn't appropriate swinger or not. Is this really debatable? I love sex and affection just as much as the next person but even I, a young sex driven male, see that it's not appropriate in any way to do any of these things in front of children, especially exposing yourself. It may be true that a woman flashing her tits at a young boy or whatever for example is making that kids day but the fact is...inappropriate. I hesitate to play kissy face in front of children most times but just my opinion. Plus, I am pretty sure that exposing yourself male or female to a child or in the presence of children is illegal anyway...
Oh and Naughty....didn't we just discuss the sarcasm or the lack of the other day? :P
JDTRUCKA66 wrote:
Oh and Naughty....didn't we just discuss the sarcasm or the lack of the other day? :P
I know, I know...I should learn to keep my mouth shut...but then I wouldn't be being me lol
NAUGHTYGIRL101 wrote:JDTRUCKA66 wrote:
Oh and Naughty....didn't we just discuss the sarcasm or the lack of the other day? :P
I know, I know...I should learn to keep my mouth shut...but then I wouldn't be being me lol
Pff whatever. I been sarcastic since day 1 and it wasn't too difficult finding the others on here that are the same lol.
I think, and no offense to the origin of this post, that this situation is first of all not at all "common" and should have just been left it outside of public and judgmental conversation. This kind of post gets way too much attention and just feeds the negativity.
LUSCIOUS_74 wrote:
I think, and no offense to the origin of this post, that this situation is first of all not at all "common" and should have just been left it outside of public and judgmental conversation. This kind of post gets way too much attention and just feeds the negativity.
No offense taken and I would have to disagree with you...the intent was that the person who did this sees this post and knows this kind of behavior is not acceptable by any and will hopefully prevent such future occurrences happening for her or anyone else...we should all take a close look at our behavior when we're around vanilla's or children....