Ok, who keeps editing their post and bumping this up to the top without making a new one?? I really agree with hungharleyman "it's time to put this one to bed"
This sounds like a Used Car dealership program LOL
PIXIESTYK wrote:
Is there a problem with people pretending to be single males??
Other than the fact that it is simply dishonest. Yes.
@party1981: I'd need three...
@Naughtygirl101: Excellent point! However, there were a fair number of people "in the area" (within 45-50 miles) most of whom were rather unpleasant in reply, if they even bothered to do me the courtesy of a reply. Which is another pet peeve of mine, but we'll save that for another thread...
@FlaGuy954U: That is a huge issue. It is somewhat disappointing to have a couple come up in a search as seeking solo men, and then have it plastered all over their profile "NO SINGLE MEN" as if we're leprous or something. There ought to be some way to eliminate this. Of course, the Admins aren't going to listen to solo males asking for things, since this business caters to couples. But it would be nice.
@SingleNudist: I think that is one of the best openers I've ever seen. I would really appreciate it if you sent me a message, as I'd like to ask you about it off thread. Thanks.
@Naughtygirl101: Excellent point! However, there were a fair number of people "in the area" (within 45-50 miles) most of whom were rather unpleasant in reply, if they even bothered to do me the courtesy of a reply. Which is another pet peeve of mine, but we'll save that for another thread...
@FlaGuy954U: That is a huge issue. It is somewhat disappointing to have a couple come up in a search as seeking solo men, and then have it plastered all over their profile "NO SINGLE MEN" as if we're leprous or something. There ought to be some way to eliminate this. Of course, the Admins aren't going to listen to solo males asking for things, since this business caters to couples. But it would be nice.
@SingleNudist: I think that is one of the best openers I've ever seen. I would really appreciate it if you sent me a message, as I'd like to ask you about it off thread. Thanks.
having been a member on here for a couple of years now and going from a couple to single i've noticed three things
1- 85-90% of the single males on here don't really give a shit about the lifestyle theyre here for pussy and they think coming to a swinger website its a for sure thing...wake up its not
2- because of the statement above real singles that r here to meet people that enjoy and appreciate the lifestyle get screwed...and don't get screwed..haha..sorry had to..anyways like some have said a lot of those get weeded out fast because they come to the realization that its not what they wanted cuz they were expecting a woman to just say hey baby lets fuck so as far as anything to help out the genuine single males females couples i'm all for u wanna measure how big my ass crack is just to see i enjoy the lifestyle and i understand there are limitations and boundaries then hell i'll go buy the tape measure and lets get to it.
All that being said there have been multiple suggestions that have been thrown out that are great ideas, the one i'm in most support of is the newbies that just sign up but not complete registration and send emails and i've seen some from when i was a couple and they can be pretty entertaining because some guys really think talking about how big their dick is or they can fuck all night will work. So limiting that might help out a little but who knows i could be wrong..
Anyways i am one who appreciates what the admin is trying to do here like i stated earlier having gone to single i see what kind of obsticales single males haveto deal with and i met a few really cool guys that i would of had no problem cumming over again...so anything go help i'm good with
Brandon
1- 85-90% of the single males on here don't really give a shit about the lifestyle theyre here for pussy and they think coming to a swinger website its a for sure thing...wake up its not
2- because of the statement above real singles that r here to meet people that enjoy and appreciate the lifestyle get screwed...and don't get screwed..haha..sorry had to..anyways like some have said a lot of those get weeded out fast because they come to the realization that its not what they wanted cuz they were expecting a woman to just say hey baby lets fuck so as far as anything to help out the genuine single males females couples i'm all for u wanna measure how big my ass crack is just to see i enjoy the lifestyle and i understand there are limitations and boundaries then hell i'll go buy the tape measure and lets get to it.
All that being said there have been multiple suggestions that have been thrown out that are great ideas, the one i'm in most support of is the newbies that just sign up but not complete registration and send emails and i've seen some from when i was a couple and they can be pretty entertaining because some guys really think talking about how big their dick is or they can fuck all night will work. So limiting that might help out a little but who knows i could be wrong..
Anyways i am one who appreciates what the admin is trying to do here like i stated earlier having gone to single i see what kind of obsticales single males haveto deal with and i met a few really cool guys that i would of had no problem cumming over again...so anything go help i'm good with
Brandon
Just my penny, I think that the test part isn't really very important. Any asshole could take and pass a test. It would be tough to bet a thumbs up from verified members though. That's what it should be based on, solely, I think.
most of us who come to sites like these have no idea what it is really all about (in the beginning) so, ignorance plays the most important part in why single males, single females, couples, bi, gay, straight or even curious individuals come in offending some of us...why not put an informative test out there for all new members to overview before entering this site?...each and every one of us was ignorant at one point in our lives about the lifestyle...as my Ethiopian counterpart would say, not so?
for example...I have noticed that most people don't want or accept friendship requests unless contacted by the owner of the request beforehand
for example...I have noticed that most people don't want or accept friendship requests unless contacted by the owner of the request beforehand
best to not have single males discriminated against...
i.e. stop picking on em.
thanks
i.e. stop picking on em.
thanks
I think there are a lot of valid points through this discussion, but if you already take a look at what the site has you can pretty much have the same things that are brought up. There is a comments section on everyones profile which has reviews from other people which you could use as the referal sytem brought up. I know i read them when looking at profiles. The other thing is what about the people who live in more rural areas? The reference system wouldn't really be effective if they have less oppurtunity to meet people. Also if people want to keep there aninimity and be discreet they would not refer the person.
As far as a test goes, I think its a good idea in theory but I don't think many single males would take it. The other thing is how many times could a single male take the test? Can he just keep taking it until he passes? Does taking the test really mean the guy has good character in person or just that he has a good memory and can pass a test? Or what if someone else takes the test for him? And if he can't take it to many times it may be a discouring factore for them and site.
I think having a class is a great idea though. For the guys who truely want to know how to compose themselves in the lifestyle. But i dont think it should be used to judge the males on the site. Some people just do not have the time to dedicate to the little things on the here.
All in all I think the idea is sound in theory but if it was applied it should be to everyone on the site cause there are couples and single females that also have the same issues as the single men. This could be used by all parties to help with thier descisions, but you will never truely know someone until you sit down and talk to them. A lot of people look good on paper but are scarey when you meet them......
As far as a test goes, I think its a good idea in theory but I don't think many single males would take it. The other thing is how many times could a single male take the test? Can he just keep taking it until he passes? Does taking the test really mean the guy has good character in person or just that he has a good memory and can pass a test? Or what if someone else takes the test for him? And if he can't take it to many times it may be a discouring factore for them and site.
I think having a class is a great idea though. For the guys who truely want to know how to compose themselves in the lifestyle. But i dont think it should be used to judge the males on the site. Some people just do not have the time to dedicate to the little things on the here.
All in all I think the idea is sound in theory but if it was applied it should be to everyone on the site cause there are couples and single females that also have the same issues as the single men. This could be used by all parties to help with thier descisions, but you will never truely know someone until you sit down and talk to them. A lot of people look good on paper but are scarey when you meet them......
how do we start a certified couples and female program ... i get more messages from flakes than kelloggs .....
ABCCOUPLE wrote:HUNGHARLEYMAN wrote:I think couples should certify single males. I'd certify you Hungharleyman. This guy is everything he suggests in his post. Hah.. have the couples certify the single males..but thats what the testimonial section is isn't it?
I've been reading all that has been said on this subject and I'll just add this. As in all segments of society there are people that get it and people that don't. I've been a single guy for about five years and I have never had so much fun in my life. My secret? I'm a considerate respectful person. Don't get me wrong, once I get to know someone it gets all kinds of fun. If there were to be a Certified Single Male program I probably wouldn't participate. I have met lots of awesome couples looking for that something extra in their sexual relationship and some really fine single women wanting a friend with benefits. It's not that hard guys. Just don't lead with your dick. Try and find some comon ground. Have a conversation. You can expect to put a steak on a cold grill think it's going to cook. Try getting things warmed up some first. And if you are rejected, don't sweat it. There are lots of different kinds of people. Not everyone is a good match. I think it's time to put this one to bed.
I didn't go back and read this for a while. Thank you! You guys rock too! Till next time
ORALLYBI4CPL wrote:
best to not have single males discriminated against...
i.e. stop picking on em.
thanks
I agree, "best to not have single males discriminated against..."
And it's my first hand observation (as a single male) that the only ones who are "picked on" are the ones who continually try to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're total jerks, more than worthy of being picked on, by posting the same obnoxious crap in every Forum topic.
I for one have NO complaints about how I've been treated here on Swingular - but then, I've always tried to be a gentleman - and not order breakfast every time I post.
CARRIERMANANDGEEKGIRL wrote:ORALLYBI4CPL wrote:
best to not have single males discriminated against...
i.e. stop picking on em.
thanks
I agree, "best to not have single males discriminated against..."
And it's my first hand observation (as a single male) that the only ones who are "picked on" are the ones who continually try to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're total jerks, more than worthy of being picked on, by posting the same obnoxious crap in every Forum topic.
I for one have NO complaints about how I've been treated here on Swingular - but then, I've always tried to be a gentleman - and not order breakfast every time I post.
Hey, CarrierMan, SHUT-UP. (Tee Hee, I only post that 'cause I think CarrierMan is used to the abuse and will know I'm just teasing.)
BTW, I am more than willing to personally be responsible for filtering out all the good single-men on here. So all the GOOD single men email me for proper MRS FUN4MWF validation. Jerks can go take the test mentioned in this post or something.
Just be aware that my own validation process can be very physically demanding so you should not wear proper clothing and you should cum prepared to sweat.
CARRIERMANANDGEEKGIRL wrote:
And it's my first hand observation (as a single male) that the only ones who are "picked on" are the ones who continually try to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're total jerks, more than worthy of being picked on, by posting the same obnoxious crap in every Forum topic. I for one have NO complaints about how I've been treated here on Swingular - but then, I've always tried to be a gentleman - and not order breakfast every time I post.
What? No juice and sausage for you?
THANK GOD!
xox
Tammy
p.s. We still have dinner plans tho right?
URIAH wrote:
There is an overwhelming demand for we single males, and there is no need for a certification program just for SMs.
Maybe you are in overwhelming demand, but the majority of single males that we talk to tell us they have very little luck hooking up on these kind of sites. So in general supply far exceeds demand. Just look at the limits for single males on parties for one example. They aren't actually being begged to come, quite the opposite, they are begging to come, and a lot of the time shunned altogether.
Funny how most single males don't want the certification program. Feel they are being picked on or discriminated against. We would appreciate a certification program for them. Just another tool to help evaluate a particular single male to see if he passes our criteria for being with us. It would also help those single males that took the time to certify and learn a few things becoming more aware of how to conduct themselves and understanding what is expected of them as a guest in a couples relationship.
Now, watch some single males jump on the table, stomping and spewing diatribe concerning how unfair and elitist we sound. Well, good for those that perform as such for we will know never to give a passing glance to them. That is what is great about the efficiencies of a market economy. We have an overabundance of single males to choose from and we are able to cull from the best of the best, and on a rare occasion have and very much enjoyed it.
Hmmm...I guess the question would be why? The Mrs. bitches about married guys more than anything else. "Hey look at this jack-wagon, he wants to hook up 'cause his wife is out of town and gave him a hall pass, but their profile, in ALL CAPS says they don't ever play separate." DUH? Guys tradin' their wives like chattel, lyin about hall passes, and being pushy and/or just plain obnoxious.
Single guys sure as hell don't have the corner on BEING pricks. Married guys can BE it rather than USE it as well. Not sure a test is going to change that.
Single guys sure as hell don't have the corner on BEING pricks. Married guys can BE it rather than USE it as well. Not sure a test is going to change that.
FUN4MWF wrote:
Hmmm...I guess the question would be why? The Mrs. bitches about married guys more than anything else. "Hey look at this jack-wagon, he wants to hook up 'cause his wife is out of town and gave him a hall pass, but their profile, in ALL CAPS says they don't ever play separate." DUH? Guys tradin' their wives like chattel, lyin about hall passes, and being pushy and/or just plain obnoxious.
Single guys sure as hell don't have the corner on BEING pricks. Married guys can BE it rather than USE it as well. Not sure a test is going to change that.
Absolutely correct. We don't even consider attached guys with hall passes no matter what, legit or not. With that said, for our purposes, the singe male certification would just be one more criteria we could use as a benchmark to see if we wanted to allow him to meet us. Not saying it is right for everyone, but for us it does have a benefit.
Honestly I understand why people feel the way they do however, I think this is a mildly prejudice proposal. For instance I am single, but a single dad so you would have me be further scrutinized to maintain a profile because I can no longer say "I have a wife"? I receive enough hostility from couples as is sometimes and that is in the initial chatting process. Often I get the husband and he is highly territorial, an understandable response but also one that is non-conducive to living the "lifestyle". People constantly tell us to be respectful but turn around and disrespect us in emails often. After consideration I will become certified but urge you to address the issues that we deal with as well.
I am not bitching as I really don't care either way but the fact is, this issue will never get resolved no matter how many things anyone tries to do. The fact is, every individual or couple will always have to filter through the bs. It comes with the territory of social networking and there is no good way to fix it really. No matter how many "tests" or how much information you present, the fact is if people don't bother to read the info that's already provided, they aren't gonna take the time to do anything else and even if they do, they will continue being idiots. I think everyone just needs to accept it for what it is, continue filtering as you would regardless and leave it at that
As for me, hey whatever. I joined the site with no expectations and maybe I am one of the few who doesn't really take anything seriously on this or any other site unless the situation leads to something otherwise. It's the internet and no matter what you do, there will always be assholes and always a way around the firewall so to speak.
Btw, how are ya'll? Haven't been here in awhile!
As for me, hey whatever. I joined the site with no expectations and maybe I am one of the few who doesn't really take anything seriously on this or any other site unless the situation leads to something otherwise. It's the internet and no matter what you do, there will always be assholes and always a way around the firewall so to speak.
Btw, how are ya'll?
Haven't been here in awhile! Does 'nt this site already have an educational segment for single guys! I m pretty sure I read something about life style etiquette, manors , and proper behavior when invited by couples. Also, unfortunately, relationships change from paired to single. Are you going to mandate the same programs to individuals in this situation? Why not just include education in the membership application process, and adjust fees accordingly. And why not offer incentives for participants to pair with a single person!.Just a suggestion.
Whoa...this is an old post! Where did you dredge this up? Whatever happened to the program? Seems it might have had some validity if executed well.
OMG. So funny. Thank you all for the smile on my lips and the laughter in my belly. Dumb is dumb. A "training" for single males might be needed, but probably not for any that we would be interested in. If you are a Neanderthal, you are a Neanderthal. If you are an educated gentleman, so you are. We look at verifications, references, etc. There are a lot of horny dudes out there and most only care about dipping their wick in something wet. I think I could educate most of the single men on here in about 30 minutes if they wanted to sit down and listen. I won't charge much. Any takers?
Way to dredge up a 5 year old post... cough cough. Too many cobwebs...
Mav
Mav
What does it take to prove someone's true nature and respect for this lifestyle, as a single male or other? If it's all in the eye of the beholder, the most fair may be the ability for everyone to request verification on any man, woman or couple.
1) A message is sent and received; 2) a request can be sent back to verify attitude via questionnaire; 3) quantify the questionnaire score by comparing profile and ranking; and 4) a personal assessment of response with or without quantified score can be applied.
There's something to be said for anyone willing to go through the process if the other requests it. This won't solve all problems, but it may reduce the amount of randoms not willing to understand the culture.
1) A message is sent and received; 2) a request can be sent back to verify attitude via questionnaire; 3) quantify the questionnaire score by comparing profile and ranking; and 4) a personal assessment of response with or without quantified score can be applied.
There's something to be said for anyone willing to go through the process if the other requests it. This won't solve all problems, but it may reduce the amount of randoms not willing to understand the culture.
I think it would be a great idea----as a single old widower I have found it hard.
.........yawn.....................................................................
I think a single male registry is a good idea. There are tens of thousands of them swarming into our lifestyle without being properly vetted. And many of them are likely radical bachelors. At very least, once allowed in, they should be registered and watched very closely for any suspicious activity. If they incur the slightest infraction then deport...er, I mean, kick 'em off the site! Let's make swinging great again!
Give Em Hell Evil?
Will anyone who is certified get a special wrist band, stamp, card for their wallet?
Really, sex has a lot to do with the whys and the wherefores for any of us purchasing a membership on this site. Obviously, a lot of men in general, single, or otherwise, are interested in sex. I cannot and do not fault single men for wanting to have sex, and I cannot and do not fault single men for buying a membership on a site that includes some women, married and single, at least considering the possibility of finding, and maybe even aggressively pursuing sexual encounters with men. Yes this is a sex friendly community, but not everyone is looking for the same things, sexually or otherwise. People who do not respect any of our boundaries, be they gender preference, age preference, body type preference, or any other preference, as individuals, or as a couple, or a group, or within an event, obviously do not really understand the concept of consent. Yes some people do things like send friend request, or send an email, without having read our profiles, or a group's membership requirements, or who a party's target audience might be. We all make mistakes, but those who have obviously had enough experience to have made a few discoveries, especially if those discoveries came from someone telling them no, that just keep on trying to get what they want from individuals, couples, groups, party planners, after having been told no over and over again, when once should have been enough, well those are the people that add a level of discomfort and sometimes even fear into the swinging lifestyle. These are the people that end up on our block list. There is a difference between interested and pushy, just as there is a difference between consensual and nonconsensual. Pushy online, or in person, in and of itself, is behavior that ignores consent. Ignoring the druthers of individuals, couples, groups or party planners is being pushy. How can you certify that someone understands consent and that someone won't be pushy?
I really appreciate you starting this conversation and working to get something in place. As a single (recently divorced) male who is new here and exploring the LS, education is great. Meeting people is great. I really have no idea what I'm doing in life, but I would like to play by the rules of the community and explore a bit.
The only question is, where do we put the single male refugee camp for the single males to live in while they're waiting to be vetted? Of course, once they get to the top of the list and are ready for the vetting process we should do what we can to make sure the vetting process doesn't last more than a couple of years. Hey, how about Erda? It isn't called the Palm Springs of North Central Tooele County for nothing. It would be a great place for a camp. Anybody got any spare barbed wire?
Fucking missed the sarcasm...
DAYBREAKMAN wrote:
I really appreciate you starting this conversation and working to get something in place. As a single (recently divorced) male who is new here and exploring the LS, education is great. Meeting people is great. I really have no idea what I'm doing in life, but I would like to play by the rules of the community and explore a bit.
Great idea. It just provides one more tool to utilize early deductive compatibility desires. Need to be careful for anyone defining "The Lifestyle" for others. One of the biggest mistakes is one person or a couple getting to put a label on anything for others. Tenure, or personal experiences may give SOME added credibility, but it means squat overall to anyone on this site and why they are on it. Actions dictate.
FLAVORSDIFFER wrote:
Great idea. It just provides one more tool to utilize early deductive compatibility desires. Need to be careful for anyone defining "The Lifestyle" for others. One of the biggest mistakes is one person or a couple getting to put a label on anything for others. Tenure, or personal experiences may give SOME added credibility, but it means squat overall to anyone on this site and why they are on it. Actions dictate.
Exactly, people say yes, no, tell me more first, and get the fuck away from me, to others, for reasons that have nothing to do whatsoever with a collective swinger identity or swinger's creed. Just because someone can recite a mantra, does not make them any more compatible, or afford them any more charm or interpersonal skills. If someone spends the time to jump through the certification hoop, it perhaps suggest something positive, as does someone getting verified as "Real" suggest they are being honest about who they are. It is perhaps a step in the right direction. People of near perfect integrity and character probably don't all find each other attractive or have the same sexual desires.