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After reading alot of opinons, in the forums, and Profiles about swinging and how to list certain things such as bi, bi-willing etc, gotta wonder if someone is a swinger or just looking for people to have sex. It seems that a TRUE swinger is someone who is very sexual and just wants to have sex no matter what their preference as long as it's enjoyable. Seems like there are so many different specific conditions being put on Profiles No wonder it's confusing on how to list bi, bi-willing same room etc...

Don't get me wrong that's fine but what is a TRUE swinger?
Someone who is totally open to the sexual experience or someone who wants sex but only if you meet their 15 conditions. Just curious. :)
I think it's a combo. I'm still a swinger even if I'm picky about who I have sex with. I'm open to sexual experiences and trying new things, but I do have a preference about who I'm gonna do it with. Doesn't make me any more or less of a swinger.
I think we are what we wish to be so I had better explain this. Swingers are strictly defined as a couple that trade partners in sex. Couples that invite singles into their play are not swinging by a normal
We never have viewed single males as swingers. To to us and most of our swinging couple friends single males are cheap sex toys you carefully pick from, use them on rare occasions and then return them and forget them. Sounds harsh but the great thing is that is exactly what the majority of single males that we have all met like. We have only met a couple single males out of hundreds that have broken the mold and surprised us.
We don't consider singles swingers, but have no problem playing with them on occasion. We play with both couples and singles and still consider ourselves swingers. Most the time, I initiate simply because I'm the more social and outgoing one. Sometimes he makes the calls. We both have to agree on the situation, but we can take turns making the calls. I think its more important to have fun and do what makes you happy rather than arguing about whether or not I'm a swinger, you're a swinger, they're a swinger, is everyone a swinger? lulz. I dunno. Am I a fake swinger cuz Mark gets to be in charge sometimes or because we play with singles sometimes? Oh well. Guess I'll just keep playing pretend. mwuahahaha.
T4REAL69 wrote:

Now to your question if you want to know what defines a swinger then go to a dictionary and look up the definition. Don't have one allow me "Swinger- One who engages in uninhibitedly in sexual activity" see there you go....swinger defined! Webster II New College Dictionary 1995

Note the definition has nothing to do with sexual preference, marital status or any of the other shit that others want to throw in there to make it fit in their pretty little boxes.

Perhaps you would have been best served if you had ask the question what does being a swinger mean to the individual? Had you asked then each person could give their perspective which is pretty much what you are going to get anyway.


On behalf of all SINGLE SWINGERS, thank you.
T4REAL69 wrote:



For the life of me I can never understand why some seem to think that every time a question is raised about swinger status that it's suddenly an open forum to bash single males...for the love of god get over yourself.


LOL. Typical single male response. You bring it on yourself.
"For the life of me I can never understand why some seem to think that every time a question is raised about swinger status that it's suddenly an open forum to bash single males...for the love of god get over yourself."

Pretty simple to understand, "T" - try and imagine yourself with an elitist, "I'm better than you are" attitude.
There, now that wasn't so hard, was it?
INVITESOME wrote:

T4REAL69 wrote:



For the life of me I can never understand why some seem to think that every time a question is raised about swinger status that it's suddenly an open forum to bash single males...for the love of god get over yourself.


LOL. Typical single male response. You bring it on yourself.


For carrierman and t4's sake... they're not the typical single male. they are respectful, very nice, never pushy, etc etc. Couldn't ask for better single males as far as they and a few select others are concerned.
CARRIERMAN wrote:

"For the life of me I can never understand why some seem to think that every time a question is raised about swinger status that it's suddenly an open forum to bash single males...for the love of god get over yourself."

Pretty simple to understand, "T" - try and imagine yourself with an elitist, "I'm better than you are" attitude.
There, now that wasn't so hard, was it?



Hmmmm. Lets see.

1. Couples to single male ratio - one to many
2. Most single males have the respect of a stray dog in heat
3. Most single males can't comprehend the meaning of "NO"
4. Most single males think a cock shot for a profile pictures with no other pics is the bomb

Pretty simple to understand. Imagine yourself with the above attributes or if you already have them reflect on them. There, now that wasn't so hard, was it?
We don't think single males OR females are swingers... if they are considered "swingers", then EVERY single person on this planet is a swinger. ;)
My definition of "Swingers" is a couple in which both partners have agreed to allow the other to have an intimate relationship with another person. There are lots of situations that fit that description and lots of emotional states that occur as a result of swinging but that description works for me. So as a single male I don't think of myself as swinger but as someone who enjoys hanging out with swingers!
WOW! So what some of you are saying is that a single male that fucked the wife in front of the husban is not a swinger? OK what ever call me what you want I guess. LOL
T4REAL69 wrote:



Didn't get enough hugs from your mom or is it a simple fact that you just wear your underwear too tight? Once again get over yourself!


Most single males don't know the meaning of "NO" and are just like stray dogs in heat that just keep coming back no matter how many times you hit them with a newspaper. Bad dog. Go away!!!
MRSTACY wrote:

WOW! So what some of you are saying is that a single male that fucked the wife in front of the husban is not a swinger? OK what ever call me what you want I guess. LOL



Now, for the record, Mr. Stacy is a classy exception to the single male mold.
T4REAL69 wrote:

INVITESOME wrote:

[quote=T4REAL69] Didn't get enough hugs from your mom or is it a simple fact that you just wear your underwear too tight? Once again get over yourself!
Single males don't know the meaning of "NO" and are just like the stray dogs in heat that just keep coming back no matter how many times you hit them with a newspaper. Bad dog. Go away!!!


Lol....typical response from the ignorant and uneducated. You bring it on yourself![/quote]



We need to get a bigger newspaper. Or maybe get the hose out. That may do the trick.
""Most single males don't know the meaning of "NO" and are just like stray dogs in heat that just keep coming back no matter how many times you hit them with a newspaper. Bad dog. Go away!!!""



Wow......most of the men I have had to 'swat' away with the newspaper are the married swingers whose wives get all the cock they want...but they are left with nothing. I consider myself a happy swinger...I enjoy sex but also known my limitations and respect others no matter what. Guess a happy swinging Adult..???
we just love these threads. it lets us know who we never want to know. so many suffer from galactic pussy syndrome. they think its out of this world. got news for you....
INVITESOME wrote:


Now, for the record, Mr. Stacy is a classy exception to the single male mold.


wait. so all single males are scum except for Mr. Stacy? I'm so confused. He's the one and ONLY exception apparently.
T4REAL69 wrote:

Kitty love you hon...muah!



oh wait. i take that back. your name isn't Mr. Stacy. lulz. juuuust kiddin. I still loves you. :P
INVITESOME wrote:

We never have viewed single males as swingers. To to us and most of our swinging couple friends single males are cheap sex toys you carefully pick from, use them on rare occasions and then return them and forget them. Sounds harsh but the great thing is that is exactly what the majority of single males that we have all met like. We have only met a couple single males out of hundreds that have broken the mold and surprised us.

For the record at least our experience we have met far more
couples where one or the other of them is just plain weird than
singles. In fact we almost prefer singles over couples for that
reason. Either way life is too short for bashing fellow Lifestylers.
People should take their bad attitudes & imagined desirability somewhere
else!
Seriously, why all the drama, this is getting soooooo old.
ABCCOUPLE wrote:


Dude, your mixing it up with the wrong guy. I'm actually friends with Mr Stacy and T, and there are a whole lot more single males that actually are mature as hell. Your comments were not even close to true. If you don't like single males thats your deal, but your opinion hardly matters to the majority of those on this site.

Kiss Mr Stacy's ass now if you want, but bottom line you managed to insult a number of couples with your comments as well. Frankly I think its more of a pissing match for you with T4real, but dude Treal is one of the classiest single men on Swingular. If you had gotten to know the guy you wouldn't be so quick to judge him. He's considerate, patient, and does not fit any of the comments you made about single males. And your 2 in a 100 stat is bullshit. Most single males are actually pretty cool, the problem is there are a FEW that seem to shit in the flower bed and fuck it up for most of these guys.

You want to stereotype, I guess its your right, but you look like a dumb ass when you do it. If you want to point out specific singles that meet your generalization statement about singles, then don't be a coward and tell us who they are.

Damn.. I guess this site needs its fill of drama each day.


Once again, the voice of reason. Seriously K, I so owe you a drink. And after reading this thread, sounds like a we could all use a drink. Honestly, some people are pretty damn hot but they only way you could fuck them is to put duct tape on their mouth or tie up their hands before they say something ignorant making them look like a complete ass. Whoops. There went their fucability rating.

Have I ever mentioned my contempt for stupidity? Pull up a seat.....;-)
As a relative newbie to the scene, I don't think I can enlighten the discussion much. But I will say this: swinging is reinvented for me with each experience. I think my preferences expand, rather than becoming more specific. I haven't felt myself evolve so rapidly since I was in my early 20s. It's fun, but unsettling. And for me, it's a lot about the people; as much as it is about the fun sex.
JULESVERNE wrote:

As a relative newbie to the scene, I don't think I can enlighten the discussion much. But I will say this: swinging is reinvented for me with each experience. I think my preferences expand, rather than becoming more specific. I haven't felt myself evolve so rapidly since I was in my early 20s. It's fun, but unsettling. And for me, it's a lot about the people; as much as it is about the fun sex.


Couldnt have said it any better. We have met a lot of great people in the lifestyle.

CB & KB
I love these posts...definitely gives you an idea of who to stay away from...I happen to know and adore 3 of the single males who are posting in this thread and you could not find more sincere, honest, gentleman than you have in T4real, Mr. Stacey and Carrier...luvs you guys!! Muuaahhhh...Naugh-Ty
Everybody knows that Austin Powers is both a single male and a swinger. That's all the proof you need.


'nuff said!!
Swinger = some one who is open about Sex, was normaly Just Couples Sharing there partners.
New Age Swinger Is couples looking for other couple but alowing singles to help with Fantacys after they are well screend in most cases.
So everyone has there rule's of what they are looking for so thats it the new age of Swinger = Love Sex but has to be Safe about it.
Poet
INVITESOME wrote:

T4REAL69 wrote:

Didn't get enough hugs from your mom or is it a simple fact that you just wear your underwear too tight? Once again get over yourself!
Most single males don't know the meaning of "NO" and are just like stray dogs in heat that just keep coming back no matter how many times you hit them with a newspaper. Bad dog. Go away!!!


Since you are obviously well qualified to both evaluate and judge "MOST" single males, I can only assume you've done extensive research into the matter by either playing with, or personally meeting "MOST" of the single men who consider themselves to be swingers.
Interesting.
And thank you for sharing the results of your years of in-depth studies with the rest of us - as oppossed to merely stating some half-baked personal opinion.
I hope to one day achieve your level of expertise in something.
Hahaha !!!! Funny shit ...... We dont think singles are swingers either just what couples bring in for extra fun !!!! Dogs in heat might be a little harsh Im sure if some hot single female wanted to join you and your wife she wouldnt be called a dog in heat ..... LOL What fun would swinging be if you didnt add a single in the mix once in a while ..... Just sayin


Badboy8p
Don't get me wrong that's fine but what is a TRUE swinger?
Someone who is totally open to the sexual experience or someone who wants sex but only if you meet their 15 conditions. Just curious.
_______________________________________________________________________
Was the main question not single bashing
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So quick and simple answer :

Pepole who wants sex but, With conditions. Since we need everything to fit the setting of the get togeathers.
We only have 14 conditions !!!! hahaha How stupid I hope you have a few standards or as you call them conditions ...... We need to have some conection with another couple or we wont even go there..... Why down grade just for sex ..... We love the friendships weve made and the ones weve lost through the 3 years of swinging because of drama and you know who you are .... Hahahaha
But cant we all get along its not all about sex !!!! Everyone says friends first but are so quick to judge others ........ Just sayin


Badboy8p
CHLOE468 wrote:

""Most single males don't know the meaning of "NO" and are just like stray dogs in heat that just keep coming back no matter how many times you hit them with a newspaper. Bad dog. Go away!!!"" Wow......most of the men I have had to 'swat' away with the newspaper are the married swingers whose wives get all the cock they want...but they are left with nothing. I consider myself a happy swinger...I enjoy sex but also known my limitations and respect others no matter what. Guess a happy swinging Adult..???


The same experience here, been saying it for years...

Are there single males who fit the mold? Of course, however, they don't last long before being banned.

Are there married males who fit the mold? FAR more than single one.

Are there single women who fit the mold? Of course, but far more rare.

As far as who's a swinger? Anyone who wants to be....It is a state of mind, not a marital status.
Here is a definition that I think is pretty good:

Swinging or partner swapping (sometimes referred to as the swinging lifestyle or simply the lifestyle) is a non-monogamous [1] behavior, in which partners in a committed relationship agree, as a couple, for both partners to engage in sexual activities with other people, sometimes referred to as recreational or social sex.[2] Swinging can take place in a number of contexts, ranging from a spontaneous sexual activity at an informal social gathering of friends to a swingers' club and can involve internet-based introduction services.
Well folks, this discussion sure has been fun to read. It pretty much shows the wide scope of the community. Everyone has a preference MASSMN. This discussion pretty well runs the gamut or opinions. I really don
SMILEMORE wrote:

Oh? Is this a swinger site. We didn't know that.... well.. okay... Wait! That's right. We joined because we're doing research into sexual behavior of unusual sectors of our society. we're just here to learn all the ins and outs of the life style. et humm. Yah, We were looking at witchcraft many years ago just for the education value. It's important to broaden one's mind and learn all they can about this world in which we live. We will now put you all under a spell to come together and give each other big hugs, kisses and etc.



I totaly agree with you.. We learn something new everyday.
fighty thread. fighty thread. does whatever a fighty thread does. can it swing... from a web? no it can't... its a thread. look ooooout! here comes a fighty threeead!!

haha. that's for everyone that missed my spectacular singing last night. :P
HELLO_KITTY12984 wrote:

fighty thread. fighty thread. does whatever a fighty thread does. can it swing... from a web? no it can't... its a thread. look ooooout! here comes a fighty threeead!! haha. that's for everyone that missed my spectacular singing last night. :P


Don't give up the day job.
SMOOCH!!!
CARRIERMAN wrote:

HELLO_KITTY12984 wrote:

fighty thread. fighty thread. does whatever a fighty thread does. can it swing... from a web? no it can't... its a thread. look ooooout! here comes a fighty threeead!! haha. that's for everyone that missed my spectacular singing last night. :P


Don't give up the day job.
SMOOCH!!!


shaddup you. :P i'll whap you on the nose with a newspaper you scumdog. :P
Now, now, children, play nicely. Having been around the scene longer than some of you have been alive I thought I'd throw my two cents into the piggy bank. First, the problem with some couples is they view the single male (or female for that matter) as "not bringing anything to the table" and this is absolutely true in the sense that up to a point one partner in the couple can be left out of things in the traditional sense of tit for tat (no pun intended) playing with partners other than your own. I think a lot of this attitude comes from the fact that "swinging" basically descended from "wife swapping". Yes it's true, deal with it people. Single males, unfortunately, are often seen as being nothing more than the garden variety dude who likes sex and pretty much will fuck anything in a skirt, and yes, this too is a fair assesment with SOME male swingles. However some single guys "get it" (yes there's that overused euphemism again) and understand their role with certain couples who want strictly (or even just occasionally) another dick to please the lady (of course then there's the whole cuckhold culture but that's quite different). Our experience has been that there are some awesome single guys out there that are hot, sexy, fun, nice, and yes respectful both of the ladies and of any given couple's relationship. And as we all know unfortunately there are quite a few more jerks that indeed kind of ruin it for the good guys. So what we're left with is swinging in 2010 and the fact that despite anyone's "definition" of swinging the lifestyle itself HAS evolved to include a WIDE variety of people, ideas, desires and individual preferences under the large umbrella that we label swinging. So hey, if ya wanna say that YOUR particular definition is the only viable one go ahead. There are plenty of people out there looking for plenty of different things and more than likely there is room at the table for just about everyone as long as you don't push your agenda on someone else.
Amen EVILDOERS. Swinging is a lifestyle and that lifestyle should include everyone that can open their mind and accept it.
I've been in the scene since the point in time that most of you were 30. HA!
OK, group hugg!
Sorry we don't hug SM's. They have cooties and stuff. :-) ....OK fine, bring it in MRSTACY. But if you pop a chubby the hug is OFF!
Evil
HELLO_KITTY12984 wrote:

CARRIERMAN wrote:

[quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]fighty thread. fighty thread. does whatever a fighty thread does. can it swing... from a web? no it can't... its a thread. look ooooout! here comes a fighty threeead!! haha. that's for everyone that missed my spectacular singing last night. :P
Don't give up the day job. SMOOCH!!!
shaddup you. :P i'll whap you on the nose with a newspaper you scumdog. :P[/quote]

As you can see by the previous posts, you and your rolled up newspaper better get in line. lol
CARRIERMAN wrote:

HELLO_KITTY12984 wrote:

[quote=CARRIERMAN][quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]fighty thread. fighty thread. does whatever a fighty thread does. can it swing... from a web? no it can't... its a thread. look ooooout! here comes a fighty threeead!! haha. that's for everyone that missed my spectacular singing last night. :P
Don't give up the day job. SMOOCH!!!
shaddup you. :P i'll whap you on the nose with a newspaper you scumdog. :P


As you can see by the previous posts, you and your rolled up newspaper better get in line. lol[/quote]

Whatever, I'm so awesome I automatically get bumped up to the front of the line.
My two cents....Who gives a fuck....If you feel your a swinger guess what?....Your a swinger....if Joe Blow doesn't feel your a swinger....Who cares there is somebody else that thinks you are...I agree with sexed101 its in you not what everyone else says...Oh and by the way T, Carrier, and Mr. Stacy you all know we respect the hell out of the three of you so let it go....

My definition of a swinger people who fuck other people for fun pleasure and friendship not necessarily in that order...

Thanks Lucky.
ok so what would you classify someone who was considered a swinger by some for 10 years but now that im single does that revoke my swingers card because i am no longer married?....just trying to figure out where all of us that fit into this category falls into for all of you that choose to define someone
T4REAL69 wrote:

HCOUPLE6988 wrote:

ok so what would you classify someone who was considered a swinger by some for 10 years but now that im single does that revoke my swingers card because i am no longer married?....just trying to figure out where all of us that fit into this category falls into for all of you that choose to define someone


Oh man that's easy you are now all that is wrong and evil in the world....I thought you knew....lmao...welcome to the "DARKSIDE" ;)


FUCK..... o well I guess I'll try and have as much fun as possible on the darkside now i just need to find a storm trooper outfit so i can fit in :)
CHUCKSTOE wrote:

to us swingers are people who want have fun some want to be friends and have fun, and the single males need to know there place and not be pushy or circle like a vultures.


Tell me you just did NOT insinuate that single males are not people who want to have fun and want to be friends...did I really misread that?

And quite frankly the majority of pushy vultures *I* have experienced on Swingular are MARRIED. And not just men either.

Being a pushy vulture is not related to marital status or gender. Just the lack of class and manners.
CHUCKSTOE wrote:

my bad i did not mean all single guys i should said some single guys and there is some couples too but but all in all everyone should swing and play how thay want and i,m sorry for saying things the wrong way and steping on toes


Lets just say some people suck. And not in a good way. LOL
Wow! When we invite single male in to join us - are we swinging but he is not? Uhmmm! I think we're all doing the same thing. He's joining us at our invitation with no expectations of a typical relationship, we're doing the same. Is that swinging?
For us a swinger is anyone were having sex with. Maybe that's too simple but even if there single it's just for fun so that's probably swinging. I think swinging ends when emotions go beyond just a good time or friendship.

Bob
Once again proof that every relevant social issue is addressed in an issue of south park. i.e. Last week our city council was addressing allowing chickens in the city limits and I brought up the chicken plucker episode. Still amazes me how many people don't watch South Park.

Bob
Didn't read all this but one word sums up swinger to us: SWAR "Sex Without A (romantic) Relationship".

We have our personal opinions, but aside from SWAR, who are we to tell another couple, male, or female what "qualifies" them as swingers?
How is a single not a swinger? I am with couples or singles, but I would say having sex with more than one person in the room, is swinging. I am a swinger weather I'm in a relationship or not. I rather be the single female in the group, that way I can leave:P
UT_4REAL_INSLC wrote:

I don't think this threads a dead horse....instead I think its a great character insight tool. As a single male I try to balance that line and show polite interest without being annoying or pushy. But its an uphill battle since most couples and single women are "on guard" because of the pushy annoying single males that have offended them in the past.

These posts are valuable though. Its always nice to get a glimpse at what someones really like when they aren't trying to get something from you. Reading some of these posts....wow! A lot of ugliness packed in some very attractive packages....better to find that out BEFORE the clothes come off.



Very Very true .....I can think of at least of 3 couples/f/m/ that I would never stand to talk to in person (or in here) Rudeness, is never sexy.
UT_4REAL_INSLC wrote:

A lot of ugliness packed in some very attractive packages....better to find that out BEFORE the clothes come off.


I was thinking sort of along the same line, except, much better to see those with unattractive packages BEFORE the clothes come off. LOL. Better look in the mirror.
Single swingers rock.
SHAZAMER wrote:

Other people may or may not define you as a swinger. But in your heart, you define yourself as a swinger. And really, who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks? I love single swingers. I love married swingers. I love hot sexy snooty swingers. I just want you to love me too...... with your sex parts. ;)
Nibbles & Licks,
Monika


Suddenly I'm a little turned on. :D

xox
Tammy
some one who wants' to fuck every good looking woman that walk's and have a wife too.
some one like me who love something new all the time. i love to fuck as much as i can.to me to fuck a new woman make me feel good. i like the hunt but after the kill i move on to the next fuck. that make me a swinger
well i guess this golden unicorn will retreat back into the magical forest ;)
Wow! So is this discussion what they call "Drama"? Lol
a swinger= 2 ropes tied to a tree limb with a plank of wood tied between the two at the bottom with a person sitting on that plank of wood and saying weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wee wee wee weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.