Yes you can say this is a swinger site and get lost. We understand. We have never swapped and might never. However we do have fun and there must be other couples out there that can still have fun without swapping? Maybe there is a better site for the softer side of things? We are getting the impression that after you have tried full swap that nothing less will satisfy you? And no we don't want the ones who think in the heat of the moment we will change our minds or something.
I ask isn't there a place for couples like us?
I ask isn't there a place for couples like us?
We've only had a full swap once. We actually love to watch, and be watched. We think this sight offers a wide range of different people and tastes. I'm sure that you can find what you're looking for here. Just gotta go get it. Maybe a booty call with your desires stated plainly.
I think that was a goal of Facebook (connection without sex). lol It looks like you might like to torture yourself, noticing your pictures of Desire; a place built for naked swapping, debauchery night/day on the beds, back room craziness at the disco, packed bodies grinding at 3am in the rooftop hot tub... Actually, we thought softswap meant you keeping the pillows on the bed. ;-)
Face book??? LOL we don't use that to know for sure what you mean but we suspect that is just another one of the mildly mean jokes that seems to typify the attitude towards acceptance of others with different ideas other than the mainstream of this side stream???? .
This subject is whats making it hard for us real swingers to find real friends !!!! I dont think they are trying to be mean by saying face book is a good place for ya they are just being honest ...... But I hope u find what your looking for dont really see much fun in it though !!! But each there own ... Just sayin ...
Thanx J
Thanx J
We are mostly a "full swap" couple, however we indulge in the "soft swap" occasionally as well. you can have JUST as an erotic time doing soft as you can full...just depends on the people and the mood. we dont ever let the couples/person's preference (ie. soft or full) dictate wether or not we meet a couple or not. now as far as the SUPER SOFT SWAP...not sure what you mean there but if it only involves holding hands..sorry count us out 
i find friends and hookups on facebook. its not impossible.
The nudist part of me says yes! I've spent lots of time hanging with peeps just having fun being nude. That's another great thing about being in this lifestyle, is that there are all levels of play. Just stay with whatever y'all are comfortable with and have fun!
We've been soft swap for years before recently going full swap. It does narrow your options when you are soft only. However, there are others on this site who are perfectly happy with any level of play. We can have just as much fun with an evening of flirting as we can in a full swap. It's really about enjoying the company you're with.
This topic really wasn't meant to about us specifically. Although that is ok. We can assure you that there is quite a bit of fun between vanilla sex and swapping. It is sad that some of you made the leap to full swap without taking time to enjoy the steps in between. The the other 90% of persons in the World would think that we are bold and out there. We didn't know facebook had a place to say "looking for other fit classy couples who like to share ,in close proximity to others, the sights, sounds and smells of hot steamy sex with our own partner." but if so let us know.
Some sites let you do searches on the other couples swapping style but it does not seem work that way on here? Anyone have other sites that allow this.
Some sites let you do searches on the other couples swapping style but it does not seem work that way on here? Anyone have other sites that allow this.
MAYBEMOR wrote:
Some sites let you do searches on the other couples swapping style but it does not seem work that way on here?
If you are looking for soft swap, you can search for it here. Just go to the search page, scroll down to advanced search and find the Soft Swap checkbox under Interests.
You'll be surprised to find how many members only soft swap. I'd say a high majority have never swapped partners before on here. It's the idea that gets them going.
while that is true you can find the folks that have checked the soft swap box but most all of those also have the full swap checked and you cant separate those out. I am sure some folks do both but so far it seems just like in the responses above that most folks wonder what we are doing here. It would be much better if we could find the other folks who dont have full swap box checked??
Sorry, nothing really meant by the face book comment but honestly, I could not think of a "soft site" to connect with people. However, asking for a "better" site than this one, all with a profile name indicating there "maybe more" then add in the sexy Desire picts... I kind of got a kick out of it. Sort of like stating your are vegan but absolutely love going to BBQ Rib festivals and wanting to be accepted for not eating meat. I was actually trying to imagine the opposite; a full swap couple wanting acceptance by soft-swap couples.
I think SECRETSINBED is correct, it's what you share. Be selfish for who are as a couple, confident in what you enjoy, and chances are what others think won't matter. We've been in this awhile, and I would have to say 8 out 10 times a couple is really worried about others views of their position in the LS, one of the partners wants more. Not always the case...
Anywhoo, enjoy it's what you make of it, not what other think. Unless, they can work in a lame joke. hee hee.
I think SECRETSINBED is correct, it's what you share. Be selfish for who are as a couple, confident in what you enjoy, and chances are what others think won't matter. We've been in this awhile, and I would have to say 8 out 10 times a couple is really worried about others views of their position in the LS, one of the partners wants more. Not always the case...
Anywhoo, enjoy it's what you make of it, not what other think. Unless, they can work in a lame joke. hee hee.
oops sorry for the typos! this site is such a PAIN on a iphone.. yur,yure... grrr!
There seems to be a variety of interests on Swingular, you should be able to contact people, maybe start a group and organize a get together, a great option might be the meeting at habits then adjourning to the new play place that was mentioned in a different post. We have enjoyed soft swap but it is like instant coffee kinda OK if you can't get the real thing.
Bob
Bob
Lets not make this a grammar issue. I would not say a vegetarian at a BBQ joint is the best analogy. Maybe we love BBQ but don't eat the beef brisket.. That still leaves ribs, chicken and pork.
IDCPL gave the best idea so far besides the face book joke.
Badboy send us all your un fun peeps. You make it sound like we are common and its hard to find real swappers because our types get in the way?
IDCPL gave the best idea so far besides the face book joke.
Badboy send us all your un fun peeps. You make it sound like we are common and its hard to find real swappers because our types get in the way?
MAYBEMOR wrote:Unfortunately, when it comes to searching, I don't think you'll find very many sites that offer search options that let you search for something people are 'not' looking for. Search is designed to find a 'yes' to answers and if someone selects both soft and full swap, you should take them for their word if that is what they are looking for. Unless of course you choose not to hook up with others that do both soft and full swapping.
while that is true you can find the folks that have checked the soft swap box but most all of those also have the full swap checked and you cant separate those out. I am sure some folks do both but so far it seems just like in the responses above that most folks wonder what we are doing here. It would be much better if we could find the other folks who dont have full swap box checked??
Don't take the words of a few saying that they don't understand soft swapping as the views of many others. You just have to be patient in your search and eventually the right couple will fall into your lap (no pun intended).
ADMINISTRATOR wrote:
You just have to be patient in your search and eventually the right couple will fall into your lap (no pun intended).
Oh you know that pun was completely intended lol
MAYBEMOR...really, don't get discouraged or let a few people get you down...like others have said it just takes some patience...we have been at this for years and it took a long time to find what we were really looking for and that continues to change so then it takes more patience and time...just have fun and enjoy the people you meet and the time you have together...kisses...Naugh-Ty
We know some folks are really fine with both. But others are just plain rude and quite a few of you. We think with the limited time of today's busy lifestyles folks are going for the full meal deal rather than just wine and Hors D'oeuvres. Maybe this site could be the first one to have that search function??
Folks those ideals that Secrets in bed listed come from our ultimate fantasy couple that we mention in our profile and are not our real world hard and fast requirements of other couples. Might as well add in the no smoking preference!!
There are some special couples out there please contact us.
As an example who wants to ski on East coats icy slopes after living in Utah for 20 years.. Same thing applies here.
Some of the reply's make it obvious that there is not full acceptance of others that don't share the full swap mentality.
There are some special couples out there please contact us.
As an example who wants to ski on East coats icy slopes after living in Utah for 20 years.. Same thing applies here.
Some of the reply's make it obvious that there is not full acceptance of others that don't share the full swap mentality.
wow....what a discussion. I don't think it's "sad" that some went into the full "swing" of things. Just means we were open to new things off the bat. You shouldn't be so defensive on others opinions, because that's all it is. We are all on here to have a great time and meet new people. I'm into full swap and have been since day one, but I also just like to meet new people in the lifestyle. Some of my good friends from here I have never touched. If you wanna soft swap, Utah is the perfect place because the "swinger clubs" pretty much suck. Everyone has or should have ground rules, but bottom line is we're to have fun. If your not having fun or finding what you want on here than maybe..this site isn't it. There's a ton of places to meet awesome people for a soft swap.
Hey Mabeymor
Dont get affended your the one that started the post ...... I have a few I will send your way and just because they are soft swappers doen't mean they are not our friends !!!! The way you make it sound in your post is that you dont do anything with anyone just like to hang out with peeps in the lifestyle ..... Like I said to each there own im not judging you !!!! But Im still wondering what (SUPER SOFT SWAP) is ???? I call soft swap 4play before sex hahaha ...... Just sayin
Thanx badboy
Dont get affended your the one that started the post ...... I have a few I will send your way and just because they are soft swappers doen't mean they are not our friends !!!! The way you make it sound in your post is that you dont do anything with anyone just like to hang out with peeps in the lifestyle ..... Like I said to each there own im not judging you !!!! But Im still wondering what (SUPER SOFT SWAP) is ???? I call soft swap 4play before sex hahaha ...... Just sayin
Thanx badboy
Though a bit defeatist, this started off as a reasonable post, and coming from an understandably frustrating overall experience. I am amazed at the level of ignorance following. Everyone getting all defensive about their choices, where they fall in the scheme of things, what I do and you should too. It's so unnecessary. I experience this in SO many different communities... The LGBT community is judgmental and coarse with Bisexual and Trans people, Western Medicine usually moves to deem Eastern medicine totally ineffective before acknowledging its place or use for anything despite its true benefits, in the realm of Non-monogamy the Polyamorous won't have themselves being mixed up with the 'likes' of Swingers, in the Swinger community soft-swappers are passed up as unadventurous. Time and time again I am shown how many adults truly do live with some sort of high school mentality, who is cooler, buys bigger, more liberal, commits greater, goes faster and farther, it is all SO ridiculous and unproductive.
Of course soft-swap can still be satisfying for those who have also done full. I don't think anyone healthy could look at this as a no-turning-back sort of lifestyle. As your life changes and grows so will your preferences and desires. Some of you scoffing at the soft-swappers may find yourself desiring that very thing in the future. And many soft-swappers will evolve into full-swapping. There will always be someone who's views are copacetic with your own, but why aren't there more that are respectful? You can take the time to understand ones position without agreeing with it, and better still, the tried and true "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." The ridicule is just not necessary. Best of luck to everyone, in all your adventures. I know we could sure use some.
Of course soft-swap can still be satisfying for those who have also done full. I don't think anyone healthy could look at this as a no-turning-back sort of lifestyle. As your life changes and grows so will your preferences and desires. Some of you scoffing at the soft-swappers may find yourself desiring that very thing in the future. And many soft-swappers will evolve into full-swapping. There will always be someone who's views are copacetic with your own, but why aren't there more that are respectful? You can take the time to understand ones position without agreeing with it, and better still, the tried and true "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." The ridicule is just not necessary. Best of luck to everyone, in all your adventures. I know we could sure use some.
You talk a lot about not being accepted by full swap couples. You seem to be just as harsh to full swap couples in return. Some people are just happy being unhappy.
some of you need to read this thread over. This thread started out saying that it appears that after you go full swap many of you (not all) don't want to stop. This is clear by the emails we have received saying "when you start swapping send us an email" and other not so forward let downs. The main question though was asking if anyone knew of a better site for types like us. The only site suggested was facebook. I am kinda disappointed by the responses you see here that show the unacceptance of others views. There is a wrist band color for us and we are not the tamest color but maybe close so I will not let the comments of a few spoil things.
Most come to this site for full swap... But there are couples that are into soft swap only.. Wish you the very best.
Ken & Kim
Ken & Kim
Really liked your profile, and I understand exactly where your comeing from. I recall the first time my ex and i got into a same room play time with a couple who were long time friends, my buddys lady was/is an exotic dancer and knew how to work her body and language to make guys start to perkalate.....shoulda seen the look on my ex's face when just by close proxcimity of her body and her very naughty wispers caused me to explode in very short order....imagine my leveel of surprize. great time and it went into the night with guys going down on thier own gal but close enuf to blow thier breath accross the thighs of the other woman, goose bumps like crazy and mulipal big o's.
my ex and i did do some limited full swap but never let a same room play date slip by, to us/me it is all about comfort and being able to only do as you feel , if and when some touching , kissing and yupper some very exciteing oral swaps with the others gal ...well nothing seems to pop the cork as a new touch and tounge that has never gone there before to really rush the heart,mind and body into bliss.
I have and always will enjoy my partner being licked to boil by a new man as I lay next to her encourageing her to let go and know it is what we all want , soon as she knew and heard my words it was on...lol or off .
any way dont stop looking you will find others who even if they have done the full swap do still enjoy all the other fun ways couples can come [cum?] togeather and enjoy them selfs...thats my storie and know it to be the truth, ...
dayum i be long winded.
my ex and i did do some limited full swap but never let a same room play date slip by, to us/me it is all about comfort and being able to only do as you feel , if and when some touching , kissing and yupper some very exciteing oral swaps with the others gal ...well nothing seems to pop the cork as a new touch and tounge that has never gone there before to really rush the heart,mind and body into bliss.
I have and always will enjoy my partner being licked to boil by a new man as I lay next to her encourageing her to let go and know it is what we all want , soon as she knew and heard my words it was on...lol or off .
any way dont stop looking you will find others who even if they have done the full swap do still enjoy all the other fun ways couples can come [cum?] togeather and enjoy them selfs...thats my storie and know it to be the truth, ...
dayum i be long winded.
First, it seems like there's a lot of folks here who have lots of different preferences. Yes, you have to sort through and find those with like interests. Just 'cause it's a swinger site with lots of open minded folks, don't expect it's not also the real world. Mean people are mean people, wherever ya run into 'em! Lots of nice folks here too. I'd EXPECT a majority of them to be full swap. Wouldn't you? In fact, isn't the term "Soft SWAP" kind of a misnomer?
Second, your profile is a bit intimidating. Sounds like your looking for Ken and Barbie. I'm afraid if I were to get naked, you'd be looking for the pull-string on my back that makes me say "Oh, Ken, you're so damn hot, even though you're not anatomically correct, I've loved the way your hair has stayed in the same place for the last 20 years. Do me baby."
I'm real, I have flaws, I live in the real world. Your profile exudes an attitude of perfection that borders on pompousness. The nice part of me thinks that hey, this couple has a point, I oughta talk the hubby into getting together with them for some harmless "soft" fun -- but then the profile convinces me otherwise. (And I absolutely do not mean this in a presumptive fashion, as if you'd even WANT to get together, 'cause, once again, your profile tells me otherwise)
Anyway, quit bein' so dang serious and keep sortin' through here 'till ya find the right soft swap folks just for you!!! Just ignore obnoxious people like me!!
Second, your profile is a bit intimidating. Sounds like your looking for Ken and Barbie. I'm afraid if I were to get naked, you'd be looking for the pull-string on my back that makes me say "Oh, Ken, you're so damn hot, even though you're not anatomically correct, I've loved the way your hair has stayed in the same place for the last 20 years. Do me baby."
I'm real, I have flaws, I live in the real world. Your profile exudes an attitude of perfection that borders on pompousness. The nice part of me thinks that hey, this couple has a point, I oughta talk the hubby into getting together with them for some harmless "soft" fun -- but then the profile convinces me otherwise. (And I absolutely do not mean this in a presumptive fashion, as if you'd even WANT to get together, 'cause, once again, your profile tells me otherwise)
Anyway, quit bein' so dang serious and keep sortin' through here 'till ya find the right soft swap folks just for you!!! Just ignore obnoxious people like me!!
ok we are gonna be real stupied here but what is considered soft swap ??
An excerpt from wiki.swingular.com:
Full Swap is when you and your partner will engage in sexual intercourse with another couple. The man of couple number one would be with the woman of couple number two and the woman of couple number one would be with the man of couple number two. There may still be rules that apply to the situation, such as safe sex, maybe oral sex or kissing would be excluded, but Full Swap means intercourse with the other couple.
Soft Swinging by definition excludes intercourse with the respective member from the other couple. Couples that are
Full Swap is when you and your partner will engage in sexual intercourse with another couple. The man of couple number one would be with the woman of couple number two and the woman of couple number one would be with the man of couple number two. There may still be rules that apply to the situation, such as safe sex, maybe oral sex or kissing would be excluded, but Full Swap means intercourse with the other couple.
Soft Swinging by definition excludes intercourse with the respective member from the other couple. Couples that are
What is "SUPERSOFTSWAP"? Let's be honest singlers sites are for SEX, yes you
might meet some "Friends" here but if anyone just wants to just watch why not watch Porn? I think you could find what you're looking for at a regular club/diffenately in strip clubs. Just meet another couple/female at a club as you talk with them you should be able to get an idea about what their into, friends, sex partners...It sounds like you're looking more for friends who want to play alittle.
From what I've read on this site it's more about sex, and that's fine, then any.
If you're not sure about this LS then don't get into it for obvious reason's.
Good Luck.
might meet some "Friends" here but if anyone just wants to just watch why not watch Porn? I think you could find what you're looking for at a regular club/diffenately in strip clubs. Just meet another couple/female at a club as you talk with them you should be able to get an idea about what their into, friends, sex partners...It sounds like you're looking more for friends who want to play alittle.
From what I've read on this site it's more about sex, and that's fine, then any.
If you're not sure about this LS then don't get into it for obvious reason's.
Good Luck.
We prefer soft swap, becuase we don't need others to satisfy our needs. But also we have met some wonderful people on this site, and have had the respect of our wishes. I would go for "super soft swap" as long as it meant taking time to get to know each other. In a way friends is more important that jumping in bed with someone.
I curious to know, are there any "soft swap only" couples, that "soft swap" separately? or would that be hard (core) soft swap?
We love soft swap and have done it many times - safer sex! "Super soft swap" would be fine with us also...
We started very slow (soft) and eventually ended up full+ - lol. From our experience and reading your profile, you are fairly new and seem to behave exactly the way a new couple usually does - great desires and fantasies with a touch of (good healthy) nervousness (which seems to put you a little "on edge").
We'd like to suggest that a little relaxation may help, and pay very careful attention because many times what your looking for is right under your nose ;-)
We started very slow (soft) and eventually ended up full+ - lol. From our experience and reading your profile, you are fairly new and seem to behave exactly the way a new couple usually does - great desires and fantasies with a touch of (good healthy) nervousness (which seems to put you a little "on edge").
We'd like to suggest that a little relaxation may help, and pay very careful attention because many times what your looking for is right under your nose ;-)
OMG! That's awesome there is a an outlet for people with no faces to do this! JK Althought, I'm am curious on the separate level with softswap couples.
Im getting so confused. Seems there are so many rules and borders. I was in a room w a soft swap couple and the attitude was rude and didnt even want anyone watching and had the doors closed alone, now Im sorry but why would you go to a swingers club to have sex in a room alone and doors closed, how stupid. Been turned off to "soft swap" ever since. I respect everyone's bag but if you dont respect others, you'r not gonna get it back . Im very glad Im in the vegas swingers scene and not utah anymore.....and BTW any old couples I used to swing w....Mike will be in Vegas soon! lol
TATERTOT1982 wrote:
Im very glad Im in the vegas swingers scene and not utah anymore.....
Interesting statement, we've often wondered about our perception that Utah lifestylers are a little more "odd", for lack of a better word??? Due to the heightened possibility of "social engineering" (AKA LDS).
As for doing it alone w/doors closed and no one watching in a club - we can understand that "thrill" level. I think the most important thing is that they dont lead people on to thinking there's going to be more before doing that. THAT would be rude, self centered and dis-respectful. I think this is the fine line where people get a little "ruffled" at the many levels of "comfort" in this lifestyle - its tough to get all turned on and revved up then shut out (usually what guys are used to getting from women - lol)...
It wasn't about being shut out ( i wasn't even feeling em) , it was how they did it. would never be right to lead on people( I would always hope to get the truth) but to slam a door in someones face, maybe a swingers club wouldn't be suited for that couple. Ill never forget em that's for sure. They just seem to remind me a lot of how this couple might react if you stood naked in front of them without having a checklist first. I'm done on this topic. Soft swap is vanilla than I am superman flavor......most mainstreamest....might find me a bit offensive. Blame it on that good Mormon upbringing lol
TaterTot,
Interesting, but recently at a party ( invited via this site) a single female we know was extremely frustrated that she busted her ass to set up daycare for the night, go to a party and have it be 10pm and nobody was playing. She told us that soft swappers wreck the parties, and bring down the energy. She claimed they love to mingle and dance but they promote an atmosphere of physical (contact) insecurity that everyone has to deal with. Her view was very firm that it's a swing party for swinging, and until the soft-swappers get shocked or drama themselves home, nothing happens till 3am. Not sure if that is totally the case, and it may be really a result of posers ( "social engineered" want to be's). However, we don't see that out of state nearly as much as in the salty city, regardless of full or softies in the mix.
Interesting, but recently at a party ( invited via this site) a single female we know was extremely frustrated that she busted her ass to set up daycare for the night, go to a party and have it be 10pm and nobody was playing. She told us that soft swappers wreck the parties, and bring down the energy. She claimed they love to mingle and dance but they promote an atmosphere of physical (contact) insecurity that everyone has to deal with. Her view was very firm that it's a swing party for swinging, and until the soft-swappers get shocked or drama themselves home, nothing happens till 3am. Not sure if that is totally the case, and it may be really a result of posers ( "social engineered" want to be's). However, we don't see that out of state nearly as much as in the salty city, regardless of full or softies in the mix.
SEXYMOOSE wrote:
TaterTot,
Interesting, but recently at a party ( invited via this site) a single female we know was extremely frustrated that she busted her ass to set up daycare for the night, go to a party and have it be 10pm and nobody was playing. She told us that soft swappers wreck the parties, and bring down the energy. She claimed they love to mingle and dance but they promote an atmosphere of physical (contact) insecurity that everyone has to deal with. Her view was very firm that it's a swing party for swinging, and until the soft-swappers get shocked or drama themselves home, nothing happens till 3am. Not sure if that is totally the case, and it may be really a result of posers ( "social engineered" want to be's). However, we don't see that out of state nearly as much as in the salty city, regardless of full or softies in the mix.
And this is why I am terrified of house parties. I don't want to be pressured into performing. Sometimes peoples thing is to JUST WATCH. While I would resent someone trying to force me into participating, I would never suggest that fucking at a swingers party is inappropriate either. Some people are exhibitionists and some aren't. And after all the drama about drunk/pushy hosts, rude guests, couple fights, and so forth I have heard about recently, I'm not convinced I'm missing anything.
Im still not sure what SUPER SOFT SWAP is ??? Can anyone tell me please .......
And Tammy u havent been to our house parties !!!! Nobody is pushy or rude just fun and if you get naked then thats your choice ......
Badboy8p
And Tammy u havent been to our house parties !!!! Nobody is pushy or rude just fun and if you get naked then thats your choice ......
Badboy8p
We only soft swap. We find it enjoyable exciting and it fits us. We have no intentions of going further and if people don't like it.. their bad luck.
Be confident in what you want and DO NOT endanger your relationship by exceeding your limits. Talk to each other and define as precisely as you can what your limits are and stick to them. Make them known up front and early to anyone you are interested in.
Most folks in the lifestyle will let you know if that is something they are interested in or if they are not. Every couple is unique so be confident in yourselves and what you want.
There are plenty of folks out there who enjoy soft swap so have fun.
Be confident in what you want and DO NOT endanger your relationship by exceeding your limits. Talk to each other and define as precisely as you can what your limits are and stick to them. Make them known up front and early to anyone you are interested in.
Most folks in the lifestyle will let you know if that is something they are interested in or if they are not. Every couple is unique so be confident in yourselves and what you want.
There are plenty of folks out there who enjoy soft swap so have fun.
I still want to know what super soft swap is too???
FUN4MWF wrote:
First ... isn't the term "Soft SWAP" kind of a misnomer?
Second, your profile is a bit intimidating. Sounds like your looking for Ken and Barbie ... Anyway, quit bein' so dang serious and keep sortin' through here 'till ya find the right soft swap folks just for you!!! Just ignore obnoxious people like me!!
I suppose the first sign of out-of-control posting is when you start quoting yourself! However, it was brought to my attention that I'm a moron. I just can't miss this opportunity to prove it!
I guess I got lost in reading all the responses and never addressed the (very simple) original premise/question of the first post by Maybemor: Isn't there a place for "Soft Swinging" here? My response should have been, heck yes, I sure hope so!!
I rambled on critically about the specificity in their profile, as to what they were looking for, which has nothing to do with their original post. In fact, it's good -- be straight up about letting other folks know exactly what you want so as to not waste their time.
And CERTAINLY, I can relate to people being critical about OTHER peoples preferences. Knock it off, dang it people!!!
I'm stickin' by my last statement to go lighter though, and not take this, or anything anyone says here, too darn seriously.
There. Now I feel better. I feel like I've atoned for my wrong. Gonna go see if I can hook up with Maybemor now. I'm pretty sure just a little of me and they'll be changing their minds......oh......crud.......just stop typing.......now......[right hand slapping left hand].....stop it.....stop it..... (they are sooo DANG sexy though!)
OK who here needs a good cuddling? LOL
ok. I'm just perplexed by this whole swap thing. I can understand NOT wanting to have intercourse with someone other then your SO...or that certain sex acts are off limits....but KISSING?
Omg. Really?
So let's just get this outta the way....if you (you in general - not specifically YOU) wants ME (yes, ME) in any way, shape, or form, there HAS to be kissing. I can't have sex without it. Yep. I tried. But its like eating plain unsalted unbuttered popcorn. Or drinking caffiene free diet Mountain Dew. What's the freakin point.
Yikes. Someone please stop changing the rules on me.
Omg. Really?
So let's just get this outta the way....if you (you in general - not specifically YOU) wants ME (yes, ME) in any way, shape, or form, there HAS to be kissing. I can't have sex without it. Yep. I tried. But its like eating plain unsalted unbuttered popcorn. Or drinking caffiene free diet Mountain Dew. What's the freakin point.
Yikes. Someone please stop changing the rules on me.
MRSTACY wrote:
OK who here needs a good cuddling? LOL
Me!! Me!! Pick me!!...you were offering, right?? lmao
BLUEEYESINUTAH wrote:
ok. I'm just perplexed by this whole swap thing. I can understand NOT wanting to have intercourse with someone other then your SO...or that certain sex acts are off limits....but KISSING?
Omg. Really?
So let's just get this outta the way....if you (you in general - not specifically YOU) wants ME (yes, ME) in any way, shape, or form, there HAS to be kissing. I can't have sex without it. Yep. I tried. But its like eating plain unsalted unbuttered popcorn. Or drinking caffiene free diet Mountain Dew. What's the freakin point.
Yikes. Someone please stop changing the rules on me.
Yeah that's kinda how we feel about it...for me kissing is very very sensual and a good kisser can get me going in seconds....BUT, each and every person has their own set of rules and I will respect those rules...as long as they make it known up front...I don't want to get my ass chewed by a wife because her husband and I kissed when I didn't know that was one of their no-no's...it's all about communication people...everyone just talk...then we can get it on...kisses...Naugh-Ty
If you have any jealous issues if your a new or experienced swinger you should step out now ..... This is not for the jealous types ..... Ok now the kissing thing this makes me laugh if you are willing to lick the othe girls pussy or suck the other guys cock then why the hell is kissing not ok ???? But I am fine with rules we like to stay with people that have close to the same rules as us !!!! Oh wait we have only one rule which is if you dont have fun then you shouldnt of been there ..... And im with abccouple that you should explain your rules to the other couple before you even hook up so everyone has a good time .......
Thanx badboy
Thanx badboy
I think there should be a new catagory called Superduperfuckingfantastic Swap. This is for people that just like to have fun. That is why we are here right?
I always get the party going lol.....I like it that way
lol.....I like it that wayAnd I agree with the superduperfantasticawesomelywetfucking as well!
Hey, I just checked on superduber.... fucking... and that domain name is available! Maybe we could create a site with that name in Utah and get... ah, maybe 11 members to sigh up. lol
I think the 11 are on this thread.....and the answer to the original thread is um doesn't really look like it......
LOL.
To each their own. Including me. Hard swap. Fine. Soft swap. Fine.
The only non negotiables are:
If you can't kiss me, not gonna happen.
If we fuck, you have to wear a condom. Period.
You may not pee or shit on, near, or by me.
No, you cannot stick your cock up my ass. OUCH.
Other then that, let's talk.
xox
Tammy
To each their own. Including me. Hard swap. Fine. Soft swap. Fine.
The only non negotiables are:
If you can't kiss me, not gonna happen.
If we fuck, you have to wear a condom. Period.
You may not pee or shit on, near, or by me.
No, you cannot stick your cock up my ass. OUCH.
Other then that, let's talk.
xox
Tammy
TNL4PLAY wrote:
I think there should be a new catagory called Superduperfuckingfantastic Swap. This is for people that just like to have fun. That is why we are here right?
Oh oh me me pick me....can I join the superduperfuckingfantastic swap club??
Sign us up for the Superduperfuckingallnightfantastic swap club !!!! We are in ...... Just sayin
Or how about the Superduperpowersquirters swap club that would be a yummy one tooooooo !!!!! LOL
Badboy8p
Or how about the Superduperpowersquirters swap club that would be a yummy one tooooooo !!!!! LOL
Badboy8p
lol at tammy.........those are great rules, and funny too.
We are here for the "Superduperfuckingfantastic" swapping too... It's all about having great times and giggles with "superduperfuckingfantastic" people!!! LOL
Much to be said for soft swap. Extremely erotic!
NAUGHTYGIRL101 wrote:TNL4PLAY wrote:Oh oh me me pick me....can I join the superduperfuckingfantastic swap club??
I think there should be a new catagory called Superduperfuckingfantastic Swap. This is for people that just like to have fun. That is why we are here right?
Join?
Hell - you're gonna be our poster girl.
Very interesting discussion, We are Soft only and don't get lots of flack about it. Of course we don't get many offers of play partners either but thats ok, we would rather people didn't ask us to play if they are not comfortable with our preferences.
That being said, we have had some awesome times within the "soft" boundaries that we have, which are pretty inclusive.
That being said, we have had some awesome times within the "soft" boundaries that we have, which are pretty inclusive.
BADBOY8P wrote:"real" swingers? posts like this is the kind that will drive others that aren't as "hardcore" away from the lifestyle forever! Look up swinging..Google, Yahoo..whatever..and read as many definitions as you can find..there are many facets to the lifestyle, not just yours. And just because something isnt "fun" to You doesnt mean it might not be fun to someone else. Maybe the idea of full swap isnt fun to this couple that posted this topic, ever thought of that?
This subject is whats making it hard for us real swingers to find real friends !!!! I dont think they are trying to be mean by saying face book is a good place for ya they are just being honest ...... But I hope u find what your looking for dont really see much fun in it though !!! But each there own ... Just sayin ...
Thanx J
UNICORN_CHASERS
"real" swingers? posts like this is the kind that will drive others that aren't as "hardcore" away from the lifestyle forever! Look up swinging..Google, Yahoo..whatever..and read as many definitions as you can find..there are many facets to the lifestyle, not just yours. And just because something isnt "fun" to You doesnt mean it might not be fun to someone else. Maybe the idea of full swap isnt fun to this couple that posted this topic, ever thought of that?
Unicorn
I think u should read the 4 other pages of this post !!!! I said to each there own .... We tried soft swap wasnt for us and full swap isnt for them !!!! Who cares ...... 90% of the couples in swinging wont make it anyways this rips relationships apart .... In 3 years we have seen tons of couples get divorces from the lifestyle ..... But the soft swappers shouldnt say full swap is bad either till they have tried it !!!! Just sayin
Badboy8p
"real" swingers? posts like this is the kind that will drive others that aren't as "hardcore" away from the lifestyle forever! Look up swinging..Google, Yahoo..whatever..and read as many definitions as you can find..there are many facets to the lifestyle, not just yours. And just because something isnt "fun" to You doesnt mean it might not be fun to someone else. Maybe the idea of full swap isnt fun to this couple that posted this topic, ever thought of that?
Unicorn
I think u should read the 4 other pages of this post !!!! I said to each there own .... We tried soft swap wasnt for us and full swap isnt for them !!!! Who cares ...... 90% of the couples in swinging wont make it anyways this rips relationships apart .... In 3 years we have seen tons of couples get divorces from the lifestyle ..... But the soft swappers shouldnt say full swap is bad either till they have tried it !!!! Just sayin
Badboy8p
Everyone has to start somewhere. The wife and I do soft swap as well as full swap. We have friends in the life style that we have never been to bed with. We have been naked with then played around witheach other and never had sex except with our own partner. I would say out of lets say 50 couples that we have been with (number is a little low) about 30% of them we go out with and have dinner and etc. and get naked with and have a great time with, but only have sex with our better halves. Then there the 15% we get down right wild with. Leaving the 2% we never do anything with. So hand in there and you will find what you want. Who knows when you find the right couple or couples one day you might just try the full swap. Jusst enjoy the lifes style and do it the way you want and don't let anyone push you into something you don't want. Also if you where't so far away the wife and I would do soft swap with you any time.
We actually enjoy play on all levels and to be honest some of the hottest situations we've been in were "soft". What ever you do don't let another couple or individual push their agenda on you. There are PLENTY of couples who aren't full swap Nazis that would enjoy playing at your comfort level.
Evil
Evil
We've not full swapped, may not, depends on chemistry with all parties...
Now, that being said, we'd go full with singles, but couples are a difficult match to make...
Now, that being said, we'd go full with singles, but couples are a difficult match to make...
JSTJIM72
Vote: We've not full swapped, may not, depends on chemistry with all parties...
Now, that being said, we'd go full with singles, but couples are a difficult match to make...
JSTJIM72
Hahahaha !!!!! This makes no sense full swap with singles soft swap with couples LMAO
Sooooooooooo is this called medium swap ?????? LMFAO
Just Sayin........
Badboy8p
Vote: We've not full swapped, may not, depends on chemistry with all parties...
Now, that being said, we'd go full with singles, but couples are a difficult match to make...
JSTJIM72
Hahahaha !!!!! This makes no sense full swap with singles soft swap with couples LMAO
Sooooooooooo is this called medium swap ?????? LMFAO
Just Sayin........
Badboy8p
I agree cant we all just get along !!!! LOL I think this is why you see alot of groups forming !!!! They stick together and dont play much outside the group because of the comfortable feeling you get when you know the rules and everyone in the group feels the same way .... There is way to much drama in swinging people say we are less judgemental and more open minded but as you can see from post like this we have more issues and drama then the real world has ...... This is for fun and to add some spice to your already awesome relationships so do what feels right for you and just dont worry about what everyone esle is doing !!!!! You can get a std from sitting on a toilet seat at smiths .... hahaha
You could trip on a crack in your driveway and die ..... So live life like every day is your last and be honest on your profiles and I think everyone could have a great time in the lifestyle ....
Badboy8p
You could trip on a crack in your driveway and die ..... So live life like every day is your last and be honest on your profiles and I think everyone could have a great time in the lifestyle ....
Badboy8p
Dental dams come flavored too. My favorites are the vanilla and the orange.
CARRIERMAN wrote:NAUGHTYGIRL101 wrote:Oh oh me me pick me....can I join the superduperfuckingfantastic swap club??
[quote=TNL4PLAY]I think there should be a new catagory called Superduperfuckingfantastic Swap. This is for people that just like to have fun. That is why we are here right?
Join?
Hell - you're gonna be our poster girl.[/quote]
Awwww.....you're too sweet! *blushing* But feel free to keep going...kisses...naugh-ty
I don't get mad about the 99% of people I know who have the rule that they don't swap at all. Why would I get mad about the rules that the amazing 1% of people I know who do swap have. If you're good peeps your good peeps. I know I know, 1%, we don't get out enough....
As far as safety goes. The safest swap is with yourself. Yeah, I just made a masturbation joke. Haha.
As far as safety goes. The safest swap is with yourself. Yeah, I just made a masturbation joke. Haha.
YES, I love the female side and not so much the male side. I love seeing the male side at work but I'm not completely comfortable with the swap thing. We have had several great encounters and love all of you............
Dawn
Dawn
Simply be OK with what you want, and say so. Like minded couples will see that you are into "soft swap" and will contact you if they are OK with that. If they don't want soft swap, they won't bother. It is OK if a couple has "full swap" checked, but they are perfectly fine with "soft swap", right? They will only contact you knowing that "soft swap" are your rules. And that is perfectly OK.
It seems like you are afraid of people being overly-agressive with you. My advice to that is to simply relax...you never, EVER have to do anything you are not comfortable with. And, there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that you are "soft swap" only. Like minded couples will have more criteria than just the sexual aspect. And, after all, that is what you are looking for, right?
It seems like you are afraid of people being overly-agressive with you. My advice to that is to simply relax...you never, EVER have to do anything you are not comfortable with. And, there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that you are "soft swap" only. Like minded couples will have more criteria than just the sexual aspect.
And, after all, that is what you are looking for, right?