Why is it ok to be a bisexual women, but considered wrong for men. I am a bisexual male in the lifestyle but most couples want nothing to do with a bisexual or bicurious male. I understand it is about choice, but just want to find some clarity on the matter.
I'm not totally sure other than society isn't ready for us yet. And the fact that most so called open minded guys/ people think it makes you more feminine if a guy is bi. I'm all man and very straight looking and acting and we also have and play with straight friends, who know I'm bi, as well as bi friends. So my suggestion is just be patient and there are more n more bi guys/ couples that are REALLY open minded, that are out there who enjoy bi guy fun. Oral is oral, no matter who is giving it, it feels great, if they know what they are doing. Bi-sexuality has been around since the beginning of time, it's time we stopped being scared of what others will think of it.
I prefer "Heteroflexible" and I'm sure these phrases have been around for quite some time, so I'm not takin credit for coining anything. Why does there have to be any kind of labeling or phrases to specify our sexuallities. Humans are sexual beings, enough said. Get over the labels, phrases and stereotypes if we are all as open minded as we claim, maybe check out Websters for the definition of the word "open minded" before we say that's our mindset.
At one point in time, my profile listed me as "bi comfortable" - until I started reading in others' profiles that they didn't want anything to do with bi-ANYTHING men.
So I changed it back to straight - which is what I consider myself.
But I'm certainly NOT homophobic.
My personal feelings are, when 3 or more people are rolling around getting happy, a lot of things can and often do happen spontaneously.
NONE of it means any or all of the folks involved is necessarilly one thing or another.
It just happens - and if it feels OK at the time, then it probably is.
I think it all comes down to the societal perception of the male and female sexes.
2 ladies can openly hug, kiss, hold hands, sleep in the same bed and go powder their noses together without ANYONE thinking anything negative about it.
NOT so for men.
I'm reminded of an old joke:
You can fuck 1,000 women, and no one will call you a stud.
But, get caught with 1 cock in your mouth, and you'll be labled a cocksucker for the rest of your life.
So I changed it back to straight - which is what I consider myself.
But I'm certainly NOT homophobic.
My personal feelings are, when 3 or more people are rolling around getting happy, a lot of things can and often do happen spontaneously.
NONE of it means any or all of the folks involved is necessarilly one thing or another.
It just happens - and if it feels OK at the time, then it probably is.
I think it all comes down to the societal perception of the male and female sexes.
2 ladies can openly hug, kiss, hold hands, sleep in the same bed and go powder their noses together without ANYONE thinking anything negative about it.
NOT so for men.
I'm reminded of an old joke:
You can fuck 1,000 women, and no one will call you a stud.
But, get caught with 1 cock in your mouth, and you'll be labled a cocksucker for the rest of your life.
I have to say I appreciate your entry on this forum CARRIERMAN.
There is another thing I find funny about all this stereptyping and that is how women will generally find gay men fun to talk to and hang out with. This always bothered me when I was more homophobic than I am now. My rejection as a heterosexual was perfectly ok but they would hang out with the gays I guess for picking out dresses..? Whatever.
I'm over that now more like I really could care less. I have lived with gays and worked with them. It doesn't interest me to be gay. I consider myself bisexual and I would only play with bisexuals, not gays.
I will always enjoy the feel of a woman and the entertainment I have with a woman. I would like the presence of a woman or women when I would like to play with another man. That does not make me gay.
So there is nothing wrong with being bisexual as a male.
There is another thing I find funny about all this stereptyping and that is how women will generally find gay men fun to talk to and hang out with. This always bothered me when I was more homophobic than I am now. My rejection as a heterosexual was perfectly ok but they would hang out with the gays I guess for picking out dresses..? Whatever.
I'm over that now more like I really could care less. I have lived with gays and worked with them. It doesn't interest me to be gay. I consider myself bisexual and I would only play with bisexuals, not gays.
I will always enjoy the feel of a woman and the entertainment I have with a woman. I would like the presence of a woman or women when I would like to play with another man. That does not make me gay.
So there is nothing wrong with being bisexual as a male.
I've always had trouble with the fact that as swingers we are supposed to be open minded and different from vanilla people but when it comes to bi men we are so homophobic, as a group. It's OK, more than OK for a woman to be bi but men have been shunned as bi, in the lifestyle for as long as I can remember and we've been in the lifestyle for about 18 years now. At a hotel after party in a room there were 8 of us and one person made a comment about one time he was doing a woman who wanted him to pull out and cum on her chest. When the time came he cummed at her chest and caught her husband on the stomach. This brought about several comments from the other men in the room none positive and one said that would do him in for the night... Shit happens when there are a bunch of people doing what feels good. What's the problem. As far as bi men go it has long been a stigma that they could or were more prone to disease than a guy who is not bi. Women, even bi women have stayed away from bi men because they think one has a better than average chance of catching some dred STD. While bi and gay men are in the forefront of the HIV thing bi men, in the lifestyle are, I would think, are quite a bit more careful about using protection and who they play with.
From my comments some might think that I'm bi, bi curious, or other unknown by me phrase. I am basically straight but definitely not homophobic. Someone said here that when you are in a pile it doesn't matter who is giving head if it feels good....regardless of what sex they are. I've used this example many times on various sites we have been on. Men who are bi do not want to cross the line and try to turn straight guys. Most are quite respectful for your preferences. Now all we have to do is get the notion that they are somehow dangerous, i.e., STD wise and that they want to turn straight guys. Might be some but I've met a number of straight guys who we find are not that arrow straight when you get to know them. They'll tell you when they find out that you are friends regardless of their preferences.
I think that through sites like these that bi men are becoming much less a thing to be shunned or afraid of. Remember that bi women are as much a threat to your manhood and as much a danger about STD's as bi men. Remember we are supposed to be OPEN MINDED in the lifestyle.
From my comments some might think that I'm bi, bi curious, or other unknown by me phrase. I am basically straight but definitely not homophobic. Someone said here that when you are in a pile it doesn't matter who is giving head if it feels good....regardless of what sex they are. I've used this example many times on various sites we have been on. Men who are bi do not want to cross the line and try to turn straight guys. Most are quite respectful for your preferences. Now all we have to do is get the notion that they are somehow dangerous, i.e., STD wise and that they want to turn straight guys. Might be some but I've met a number of straight guys who we find are not that arrow straight when you get to know them. They'll tell you when they find out that you are friends regardless of their preferences.
I think that through sites like these that bi men are becoming much less a thing to be shunned or afraid of. Remember that bi women are as much a threat to your manhood and as much a danger about STD's as bi men. Remember we are supposed to be OPEN MINDED in the lifestyle.
Bi men are more then welcome to my bed. I like having something in common with them. 
Just be as interested in me as you are in the other cock in the room and we are golden. but please please please let me watch you both 69 for a bit. ~drool~
Just be as interested in me as you are in the other cock in the room and we are golden. but please please please let me watch you both 69 for a bit. ~drool~I just gotta say it really does something for me to see a post by a woman who would like to be with bi males. 