We\'re lifetime members of this site but we have yet to actually meet anyone from here. This is not a desperate plea or anything as we have many lifestyle friends from another site. We have hosted many parties at our house so it is not as if we haven\'t been involved or engaged in swinger activity. But what is perplexing to us is that with all the members on this site that live where we live, no one seems to want to get involved, or contact us..are all site members in St. Augustine looking for perfect 10 bodies and faces?....The ubiquitous responses we get are usually to go to clubs like Club Indy in Jax...or go to meet and greets..the funny thing is, we do. We go to meet and greets every Wednesday night in Jax and Friday nights in Orange Park...and yet where are all the other St. Augustine folks?...lolo....as for Club Indy, we have been there several times with our group of about 100...it\'s a nice place but we prefer private home parties......so let\'s see if the St. Augustine members can prove us wrong...if you want to go to one of the meet and greets, drop us a line and we\'ll be very happy to tell you where......hope to hear from you.....
Know what?It\'s exactly the same for us.we have not met anyone from this site.
We have had people contact us and then ignore us if we reply favourably,and then there\'s the \"no reply\"brigade who won\'t answer messages we send.
we are members of other sites and have met and played with people from those.
We were beginning to wonder if it was just us.
We have had people contact us and then ignore us if we reply favourably,and then there\'s the \"no reply\"brigade who won\'t answer messages we send.
we are members of other sites and have met and played with people from those.
We were beginning to wonder if it was just us.
Same Here
same here
I\'m just another single guy here and i met a nice lady on here (she knows who shes is) and we had fun...
PS i gave her a nice comment on her profile hehehe

PS i gave her a nice comment on her profile hehehe

Maybe it\'s us ..Perhaps I am considered too old or perhaps people think we are not good looking enough to meet.I don\'t feel putting cock or pussy pics on our profile would increase our chances.After all it\'s the face that the othewr people are going to see first if you meet.
We seem to do ok on other sites as we said before.
We seem to do ok on other sites as we said before.
We\'ve had the same experience. Send email. Get no reply.
So what sites work? Details, please.
So what sites work? Details, please.
same here but oooh well life goes on :z
same everywhere, we guess????
we have met most of the cpls we swing with in chat rooms ....we have been members of other sites too, and in the 8 yrs we have done this only 3 cpls have we met from a site like this. but some of it is our fault. our family comes first. this is not really a life style for us just a part of our life we enjoy doing sometime
roger and vickie
ps but we do play
roger and vickie
ps but we do play
I\'ve met only 2 couples from here. The second couple I met developed into longterm friendship, and for that reason I consider this site a success. Unfortunately it took a long time of going through alot of B.S., but in the end it was worth it. Now, if I could just find that illusive bisexual female..lol.
and I thought it was the way things were only in San Antonio.. Strange isn\'t it? that so many people are on line most of the time and yet there are few that really want to meet hook up become friends or just continue to communicate. Always seems to be a flare in early e-mails then a sudden crash of interest. I\'l stick with mature players first they seem to be more secure in what they are looking for.. Good Luck all and
Merry Cristmas from San Antonio
Merry Cristmas from San Antonio
We have this problem not only on this site but on all others we are on.
very few ppl reply to contact
seems most ppl that reply are not interested in meeting or just string you along then stop replying
I guess it is that we live in country no one seems to be around here
lol
very few ppl reply to contact
seems most ppl that reply are not interested in meeting or just string you along then stop replying
I guess it is that we live in country no one seems to be around here
lol
wow..didn\'t expect such honest responses...thank you all..We\'re glad to know that this is a common thing...We knew though that we weren\'t the problem...like we said, we have many playfriends we have met through another site...not too sure if you can advertise the competition in an open forum...but it just seems that most people we email send no response..we\'re happy to get even a \"No, thank you\" answer, provided it is done in a polite manner and not just in a gruff way. What is perplexing is when you read a profile and think you have a match, and you get nothing, no response, why bother being on the site to begin with?..we know it\'s a free country, do whatever..this is why we ask on our profile to be honest and sincere. But it seems that is a characterisitic MIA....
We agree
at least reply with no thank you it is just common curtisy and decent manners
at least reply with no thank you it is just common curtisy and decent manners
WE have had the same experience. We have met and played with lots of others from other sites, but there seems to be a lot of game players and wanna-be\'s on here. I do not understand why couples get into this just to \"fuck\" with people (and I don\'t mean fuck in the physical sense). This site, in the beginning was one of our favorites, but we are tiring of the bullshit here. We still think that this site is put together really well. I can only guess that the generosity of it\'s owners in keeping the fees down attracts the undesirables. We are for real, and if anybody else on here is, we would love to meet you for the obvious reasons.
I have been in and out of the lifestyle for over 25 years. As a single male I have had more luck meeting females or couples (one couple and 2 females) then we have had as a couple (none in 3 years off a site like this). I think the best place to meet people are meet and greets, clubs and house parties. The big problem is meeting the right people to get invited to a house party. But that\'s another story!
it seems the same in wyo we write and no response:@
We\'ve actually met quite few people from this site. And have developed some great new friendships as a result.
I think that with any website its hit and miss. So all we can suggest is to keep looking, it happens eventually.
I think that with any website its hit and miss. So all we can suggest is to keep looking, it happens eventually.
We have not actually met anyone where this site was the inital contact. But hopefully that will change on New Years. 
There is a relatively small swinger community here, so the same people that are on here also have profiles in several other places including the local yahoo groups that we are members of. The yahoo group is actually where we have met everyone we have played with or are friends with.
But I still like this group as a connection to the overall swinger community. It\'s nice to see how everyone handles issues and other things and get some diverse feed back.
Carrie V.

There is a relatively small swinger community here, so the same people that are on here also have profiles in several other places including the local yahoo groups that we are members of. The yahoo group is actually where we have met everyone we have played with or are friends with.
But I still like this group as a connection to the overall swinger community. It\'s nice to see how everyone handles issues and other things and get some diverse feed back.
Carrie V.
The problem is extremely common on many sites. We are lifers on ..6 or 7 now and even if you are prolific with letters to members it will take quite a few before you hit paydirt. One particular thing to note is that most of the time, regardless of the size of the city, people are afraid to respond for fear of being recognized and possibility of loss of jobs or that family might find out.... We live in a very small town in NC where everyone knows everyone...I can\'t bring couples into my home for fear of rumors becasue of my neighbors.... Very BS religious community.. BS because they talk about their best friends and neighbors.... Good Christian people who go to church Wednesday and two times on Sunday. We publish our pics andwe attempt to contact people here.. We have had some little success but sucess all the same...
One reason that people suggest clubs or M&G\'s to meet is that they may have been stood up too often and wish to have productive recreational time even if you meet and don\'t hit it off... so that may be some of the reasons that you haven\'t met tooo many... I think if you really tried 5 yrs ago you could meet just about anyone ... People are now afraid to give too much info and or to meet outside of an environment where they can melt into the woodwork, so to speak. The more people you contact the better the chances to meet.....??Someone???
One reason that people suggest clubs or M&G\'s to meet is that they may have been stood up too often and wish to have productive recreational time even if you meet and don\'t hit it off... so that may be some of the reasons that you haven\'t met tooo many... I think if you really tried 5 yrs ago you could meet just about anyone ... People are now afraid to give too much info and or to meet outside of an environment where they can melt into the woodwork, so to speak. The more people you contact the better the chances to meet.....??Someone???
Hello,
Great comments and thread. I have been a member of 4 other swinger sites and have had some success. I signed up here as a lifetime member for two reasons
1. the cost was great
2. hopes of finding some like minded people in the greater Washington DC area
Well I\'d like to report that to this point I have met no one, left tons of emails with no replys and up until today hadn\'t even checked this site in like 3 months. I say that to say that even with all that I still think it\'s worth being a member here. I hold out hope that one day I will get an email back and met someone from here. Seems to be more people in the midwest and central part of the country meeting. SO I say LETS GO EAST COAST!! Over all I can\'t complain to much again the cost of the site is the best I have ever paid even without replys. I see some of the hottest cpls and women on this site so I would hope someone is getting some! If anyone would like to chat or meet please drop me an email ~wink~ (had to put in a plug)
Hope you all have a Safe and Happy Holiday season (and for christ-sake get laid)
Great comments and thread. I have been a member of 4 other swinger sites and have had some success. I signed up here as a lifetime member for two reasons
1. the cost was great
2. hopes of finding some like minded people in the greater Washington DC area
Well I\'d like to report that to this point I have met no one, left tons of emails with no replys and up until today hadn\'t even checked this site in like 3 months. I say that to say that even with all that I still think it\'s worth being a member here. I hold out hope that one day I will get an email back and met someone from here. Seems to be more people in the midwest and central part of the country meeting. SO I say LETS GO EAST COAST!! Over all I can\'t complain to much again the cost of the site is the best I have ever paid even without replys. I see some of the hottest cpls and women on this site so I would hope someone is getting some! If anyone would like to chat or meet please drop me an email ~wink~ (had to put in a plug)
Hope you all have a Safe and Happy Holiday season (and for christ-sake get laid)
We can\'t believe how well this thread has taken off..so very very cool. Our success has been on AFF; we joined this site for the prime reason nova did and that was the price was good for a lifetime subscription....it would appear that so many of you from around this country are in the same boat as us; (as far as this site is concerned)...our intention was to try and get some of the members in our city to come out to the meet and greets to see if they really existed..the wife and I have a bet on whether or not any lifestylers in our city are for real with the exception of two couples that we have met, one of which we play with and are good friends with too....but we understand the need for discretion and having kids etc......but we most highly agree with one comment on here that most it seems just want to string you along and have no real interest in meeting.....que sera sera
D and B
D and B
Try living in Montana where it\'s even harder to connect up with REAL couples. So tired of the fakes, photo collectors and cheats.
We\'ve not met anyone from this site either....
We\'ve not met anyone from this site either....
We have had no success on this site either but like a previous person mentioned some of it could be us because we dont have a lot of time......however we have had a lot of success from other sites. To me it seems as if this site is mainly concentrated in UT and Fl. I do however enjoy this site for the Forums they can be very interesting.
We have always wanted to vacation in Montana...not now though..maybe when it gets warmer...
I have met a few from this site, and like everyone else, I belong to a few other sites, it is hit or miss on any site I think, some have better luck then others just dig in and keep looking eventually, you find what your looking for and like everyone else, don\'t you hate it when you don\'t get a reply back? please reply even if yo only say sorry not interested its only polite...lol
Well,if any of you couples ever decide to come Tampa way,drop us a note.We promise we will reply.
Merry Christmas to all our readers.
Merry Christmas to all our readers.
We get offers on here alot, mostly from single men wanting to let hubby watch wifey get some good cock, NEWS FLASH guys, I must be doing something right we have been together for about 10 years and even when we do play she still comes home with me. but back to the subject, we have not had anyone nearby contact us to meet, lots from far away places , and not all of the single guys are wanting to leave hubby to watch, just had a nice invite from a Mike in Texas if we were closer.
Well, like someone said, this site is the place to be for our area, I am convinced that half of the people on here are from UT.
We are on other sites as well, but routinely tell people about this one for ease of communitcation. AFF is a complete joke, every poser and picture collector on the planet is on there. We have met a ton of new friends form this site and have hung out with a ton of them. We have \"played\" very sparingly, but not to any fault of the site, we are just very picky and the vibe has to be right too.
The price was right, and like all things, they take time to develop, I love the forums and the great discussions (and even the inane ones actually). I just wish the groups were a bit more active. But, I am sure they will come. I like the ease of verification, and find it easy to get a chat going with people from this site compared to others.
my .02
We are on other sites as well, but routinely tell people about this one for ease of communitcation. AFF is a complete joke, every poser and picture collector on the planet is on there. We have met a ton of new friends form this site and have hung out with a ton of them. We have \"played\" very sparingly, but not to any fault of the site, we are just very picky and the vibe has to be right too.
The price was right, and like all things, they take time to develop, I love the forums and the great discussions (and even the inane ones actually). I just wish the groups were a bit more active. But, I am sure they will come. I like the ease of verification, and find it easy to get a chat going with people from this site compared to others.
my .02
YEA I KNOW REJECTION SUCKS. BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. WE HAVE BEEN THROUGHT IT AND ALOT OF OTHER PEOPLE TO BUT WE HAVE NOT FOUND THE NEED TO CRY ABOUT IT.WE HAVE FOUND GREAT SUCCES ON THE SITE.MORE THEN WE WOULD LIKE SOME TIMES. BUT IT WAS NOT ALLWAYS LIKE THAT. IT WAS ALL ON HOW WE PRESENTED THINGS.IF YOUR 300 FUCKING POUNDS THEN GUESS WHAT YOU DONT WANT TO BE SHOWING ANY FULL NUDE SHOTS. YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR PERSONALITIE AND THEN GO FROM THERE. AND YOU FOR SURE DONT WANT TO HAVE A BIG FAT PIC OF YOUR HUSBANDS HAIRY ASS ON YOUR PUBLIC PICTURES.(YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE). ANYWAYS GET OVER IT.IF YOUR HAVING NO LUCK WITH RESPONCES IT PROBLY IS YOU. TRY CHANGING SOMETHINGS AROUND. WETHER IT BE PICKS POSTIONS ALFETS ( LOSEING SOME WAIGHT) WHAT EVER JUST TRY SOMETHING NEW ON YOUR PROFILE. BUT REMEMBER ALOT HAS TO DO WITH LOOKS(PICS) SO TAKE THE BEST PICS YOU CAN AND GOOD LUCK aNTHONY$TIFFANY
Damn Mr/Mrs all CAPS.... you are kind of blunt in all your comments. And of course free speech is good as is sharing thoughts. But MAN, do we need to so blunt? A little consideration and maybe some spell check would be good....
yea people need to be blunt some times becouse rejection hurts people so much some times that rather then face the truth they go into denile. as to the spelling i know its horrible. sorry i hope you can still understand the mesage that im trying tio convey. and i just looked at your file you guys seem like an fun out goig couple.
Um T4REAL...... baby if you were in utah.....you would be a very busy (female 1/2 of the couples comments....mmmm)
THAT\'S WEIRD...I\'M A SINGLE MALE AND I\'VE MET SEVERAL AWESOME COUPLES OFF OF HERE. MAYBE IT\'S YOUR APPROACH OR SOMETHING...SHOW RESPECT-GET RESPECT 

Hi Hawkeye34, you 2 seem to be a nice *cough*couple we\'ve never met or seen before in our whole life*cough*...lol. Just want to let you guys know that you\'re going to always be welcome to our home in Jacksonville *cough* as long as you bring those brownies*cough*. Seriously though, I\'ve heard your complaint and it is a very valid one. The Mr and I would have no problems making a few (maybe every 3rd Fri or Sat) planned visit to ya, neighbor.
As far as Giante reply: Sexy is a state of mind (I should know, b/c I\'m the gov. there...lol). I know a few people who\'d rather be with a, built for shock absobancy,figured woman. I also know quiet a few men who don\'t like the skeletal thin, sickly, looking women. If we can count your ribs and see your facial bones from a photo, you SHOULDN\'T BE TAKING SEMI NUDE SHOTS EITHER either. Hell I don\'t like me who has more hair on their chest than I do on my whole fucking head. Thats just nasty and has \"You\'re going to gag a hairball\" written all over it. Having saying that makes me probally just as tactless as you, but like you said being blunt can hurt. That\'s why I\'d rather not go there 99% of the time. Like our mommas say \"If you don\'t have anything nice to say, don\'t say anything at all\".
I feel as if we\'re a couple in the middle. Now waif thin not nor are we obese. With above average looks. And just like Hawkeye, we\'re down to earth, non superficial,non judgemental, easy and happy to please, kind of people.
Just b/c you wear a size negative 0 does NOT equate to much success on this site. We\'ve gotten alot of responses on here, it\'s just that 75% of em live hundreds of miles away. We too are apart of AFF and have more hits than misses,then again, could it be b/c the have more local people. Hence Hawkeye\'s problem...
As far as Giante reply: Sexy is a state of mind (I should know, b/c I\'m the gov. there...lol). I know a few people who\'d rather be with a, built for shock absobancy,figured woman. I also know quiet a few men who don\'t like the skeletal thin, sickly, looking women. If we can count your ribs and see your facial bones from a photo, you SHOULDN\'T BE TAKING SEMI NUDE SHOTS EITHER either. Hell I don\'t like me who has more hair on their chest than I do on my whole fucking head. Thats just nasty and has \"You\'re going to gag a hairball\" written all over it. Having saying that makes me probally just as tactless as you, but like you said being blunt can hurt. That\'s why I\'d rather not go there 99% of the time. Like our mommas say \"If you don\'t have anything nice to say, don\'t say anything at all\".
I feel as if we\'re a couple in the middle. Now waif thin not nor are we obese. With above average looks. And just like Hawkeye, we\'re down to earth, non superficial,non judgemental, easy and happy to please, kind of people.
Just b/c you wear a size negative 0 does NOT equate to much success on this site. We\'ve gotten alot of responses on here, it\'s just that 75% of em live hundreds of miles away. We too are apart of AFF and have more hits than misses,then again, could it be b/c the have more local people. Hence Hawkeye\'s problem...
Yeppers we are from St Augustine and even chatted with the cpl that started this thread guess we fell into the old and rolled catagory. Oh well,they are someone for everyone.We have met some very nice and very sexy cpls on this very site.
and there is so many people from Florida hehehehe
Gigante has made some valid points...however we would just like to re-state that we are in no way at all complaining or crying about having made no contacts on this site....That was never our intention in starting this thread....yet to be honest, since we did start the thread, our mailbox has been a bit more active...vedddddyyyy interesting.....and Mrs. Smith, the brownies are ready for you...(talk about ironic, eh?)....plus, stauggycple, 1,000 apologies...
It\'s funny, up till yeterday (and contacting some people off this post) we only had one new contact that we didn\'t know already (and it\'s been a great one)....while on another site we have been getting lots of hits (But again there are more people listed in a mile of us on that site than the whole area here)
So as this site hopefully grows in the DC area it might start working more for us (and the crash a few weeks back sure didn\'t help) but we like the other features a whole lot.
This thread has helped us too meeting new folks.
Have a great holiday!
Art and Dawn
So as this site hopefully grows in the DC area it might start working more for us (and the crash a few weeks back sure didn\'t help) but we like the other features a whole lot.
This thread has helped us too meeting new folks.
Have a great holiday!
Art and Dawn
Giante thanks we try to be fun loving people sometimes too well in that everyone seems to know me (that is how I got elected as the Mayor of the Midwest Secrets Club)....
And for some reason the cute 20somethings really dig a middle aged slightly balding chubby banker.... something about always makin em laugh....
We really belong to the sites for the forums and stuff. While we have meet peeps here it is normally thru the club chat (always seems to have people) and the clubs.
If your ever this way stop in and we will pull out the frozen Pucker and have us a round... and if we get your way... we will look ya up.
Marty and Tina Too!
PS sorry about the spelling crack just being a smart ass
And for some reason the cute 20somethings really dig a middle aged slightly balding chubby banker.... something about always makin em laugh....
We really belong to the sites for the forums and stuff. While we have meet peeps here it is normally thru the club chat (always seems to have people) and the clubs.
If your ever this way stop in and we will pull out the frozen Pucker and have us a round... and if we get your way... we will look ya up.
Marty and Tina Too!
PS sorry about the spelling crack just being a smart ass
hey, I wondered if the old man\'s hairy ass on the front pic was aimed at us?? LOL That pic even I don\'t like , but the wife says it is one of her favorites, go figure, merry chirstmas everybody.
looks as though this thread ran its course..very well done and thank you all...
Damn, wish the last few days weren\'t so busy, looks like this thread has pretty much died off already, but I\'ll add to it anyway...
I havn\'t met anyone from this site either, seems really to have the most people being from either UT, or FL, not that many in TX, even fewer in the Houtson area. That said I still signed up for the lifetime membership quite a while back. The price really was great, and I\'ve found the forums here to be great to read through, some interesting conversations come up and it\'s cool to see some of the varying opinions on them.
I\'ve tried AFF and definately have to wonder how many of the profiles are just complete and utter BS, never got any sort of responses there and their subscription prices are insanely high!
-Peter
I havn\'t met anyone from this site either, seems really to have the most people being from either UT, or FL, not that many in TX, even fewer in the Houtson area. That said I still signed up for the lifetime membership quite a while back. The price really was great, and I\'ve found the forums here to be great to read through, some interesting conversations come up and it\'s cool to see some of the varying opinions on them.
I\'ve tried AFF and definately have to wonder how many of the profiles are just complete and utter BS, never got any sort of responses there and their subscription prices are insanely high!
-Peter