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New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - Yes that would be amazing! Pool hot-tub bar dungeon room dance floor stripper pole private and vouyeer rooms are all great for making it fun! Would attend one a month.
The statistics of swinging - Relationship longevity in the lifestyle. - One thing we've noticed (and even had a few close calls with ourselves) is that, once the initial thrill of swinging/swapping wears off a little bit, many people look for the NEXT big thrill...usually separate play. And THAT, if you're not really prepared for it and don't go into it with your eyes wide open, is when things can get really sticky.
I have an acquaintance in the lifestyle who is a professor of physiology who likes to talk at length about the "love hormone", oxytocin, and how powerful it can be in some lifestyle circumstances. I guess a subset of this issue might be how many swingers who break up do so because they fall in love with someone else in the lifestyle.
One particularly insidious behavior that we've, unfortunately, encountered are men, both single AND married, in the lifestyle who attempt to ply Ms. Evil by saying things like, "If you were mine I would never want to share you.". There are probably a fair number of women (and probably men) who might be susceptable to that type of talk if they're insecure in their primary relationship.
Polyamory - polyanorous couples. - We have been in a Poly relationship with another couple for 2 years. There have been lots of great times and some rough times we have had to work through. It takes a completely stable marriage for the spouses and tons of open and honest communication from everyone involved. Both marriages are going on 20 yrs+ Every poly situation is different. Some have very strict rules, however we chose not to have rules. We just have mutual respect for one anothers marriages and each individual relationship between the four of us. If it ended today, I would have no regrets what so ever. Our lives have been enriched beyond belief and our marriages are stronger and happier than ever. I have learned so much about love, relationships, communication, and myself during these last couple of years and I wouldn't change a thing. We started out as Swingers and still have Swinger friends, but we are emotionally and sexually faithful to our partners. Five years ago, I could never fathom loving anyone else besides my husband. The other couple's kids are grown and we still have 2 at home. We will not tell our children the extent of our relationship with our couple until they are out of High School. Some Poly people blend homes and families. We chose not to do that, but do not judge those who do. Poly relationships are very challenging to say the least. It can be wonderful as well. Just my bit :)
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - "pecksniffian" lol
I would go break out the scrabble dictionary for that one but you dont want to appear too self righteous.
JIM
Favorite bars in utah - - Yes, I read the article. Our experience (getting close to 30 years in the swinging trenches) has shown that the authorities almost invariably use other (easier to prosecute) issues to shut down naughty things like swinging parties. Recently in Texas they're trying to use zoning ordinances and disturbing the peace and, believe it or not, parking ordinances. Quite often it's alcohol related. Not too many years ago with a local, fairly prominent swinger who held frequent parties in his upscale neighborhood they nailed him for providing alcohol to minors (apparently one girl at one of his parties was not yet 21).
And I would ague that Las Vegas is anything but tolerant for swingers parties or really anything related to sex. They love to sell the idea of sex but when the rubber meets the road they are as intolerant as anywhere we've been. I don't remember the last hotel takeover we attended in Vegas where a topless pool wasn't promised and then shut down by the local authorities. Of course the big money hotels have absolutely no problem providing topless pools...if they can charge a hefty premium to do so. Vegas is all sizzle and no steak (in the vernacular of my grandfather).
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Maybe the issue is that there are single men that do try "cold calling". Since the odds of them hitting a "single guy friendly" couple are not as good as hitting a couple that looks for couples only, they will tend to irritate that couple. Now, understand that we already are not interested in you. On top of that you bother us with your solicitations. Kinda of an "adding insult to injury" thing.
Sure, you say "It's not fair. You put us with the clowns.". Yes, you are right, it isn't fair. However, life isn't fair either for allowing some to hurt the group.
Disappointments! - - WE ALSO ONLY PLAY WITH GOOD FRIENDS , TO US WE ARE SWINGERS YES , BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT SALL THE LIFE STYLE IS ALL ABOUT TO US . WE WANT TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS . NOT EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY THAT WILL PLAY WITH US .TO US ITS NOT ABOUT HOOKING UP AND HAVIGN SEX . ITS ABOUT SHARING EACH OTHER AND EXPLOREING WITH FRIENDS .
WE DONT REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MEETING PEOPLE OR HOOKING UP WITH THOSE THAT WE WANT TO . AND WE FOR THE MOST PART ARE STILL GOOD FRIENDS OR PLAY MATES WITH ALL OF OUR FRIEND S.
WE TELL EVERYBODY WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR FRIEND S. THAT WAY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN A HURRY TO HOOK UP WILL LEAVE US ALONE . WE TAKE OUR TIME AND GET TO KNOWPEOPLE AND PLAY WHEN IT FEELS RIGHT .
THE BEST WAY TO FIND PEOPLE WHAT UA RE LOOKING FOR IS .
TO ....
PUT AS MUCH INFO IN YOUR PROFILE AS U CAN .
TRY TO WRITE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT SITES .
AND SAYING UP FRONT . U ARE LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS .
GO TO AS MANY PARTIES AS U CAN . THAT WAY U CAN MEET ALOT OF NEW PEOPLE ALL THE TIME .
STUFF LIKE THAT HELPS OUT ALOT .
MAYBE START YOUR OWN YAHOO GROUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT . WE JUST STARTED A NEW GROUP CALLED [email protected]
WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT FOR SWINGERS THAT ALSO WANT TO BE FRIENDS .
STUFF LIEK THAT CAN HELP ALOT .
TRY TO LOOK FOR NEWBIES . OR GROUPS FOR NEWBIES .
I THINK U WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE ON MEETING MORE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR FRIENDS ....
THERE IS SO MANY DIFFERENT SITES OR GROUPS OR CLUBS FOR SWINGERS . U HAVE TO FIND A FEW THAT WORK BEST FOR YOU AND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR . IF U CAN T FIND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR STARTING YOUR GROUP MIGHT BE THE BEST THING .
DONT KEEP LOOKING . CAUSE I CAN TELL U THERE IS COUPLES OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THE SAME THINGS AS U . U JUST HAVE TO FIND THEM .
NAUGHTY DREAMS
FREAKY KITTY
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - To all the men & women that have served this country thank you for giving me the right to serve this great nation also. To all those that have a problem with my brothers & sisters in arms just try to remember the stuff you were taught in History, if it wasn't for us you could be speeking German, Japanese, Italian, Aribic or English with a twist.
Nuendo - Battle of the bands - ok fellow swingers, we need your votes! It seems a band came outta no where and is no leading by 40 votes! Please if you wouldnt mind, go to http://www.klzxfm.com/greatunsigned and vote for N-U-endo !
Thanks,
Mike & Denise
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - A Yugo and 74 AMC Pacer.
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