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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - "now.. waiting for the attacks.. which usually come from those who feel inadequate, inferior or cannot make a rational decision.. " Kinda like what you just did eh? LOL! "I find it quite amusing as well as revealing how some of the comments made in this forum by some mebers are diametrically opposed to their previous posts." Could it be personal enlightment? "now.. waiting for the attacks.. which usually come from those who feel inadequate, inferior or cannot make a rational decision." According to who? You? lol. Replies are welcome in a forum. If it were not in good form to reply to your drivel, this would be a monologue with your delusional ass talking to yourself. Well, that's just the first part of your day. This is the second part. It's called a dialogue, unlike the personalities with in your dementia, we have our own voices and opinions, born in other perspectives. ;-) -D-

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - Well, ya gotta admit your wife has a FINE ass so I can see what set this perv off ...but yeah, that's fucked up! Evil

Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - How about instead of identifying other Swingers with objects just do a little flirting with other couples when out... they bite or they don't... but definately more fun. just a thought. :z

Which Motorcycle Survey? - In the market and want your opinion... - [quote=242]Oh, I have strong thoughts on this subject folks. And I am really doing my homework and shopping very thoroughly. I'm taking my time because I won't be buying until Feb/Mar at the earliest. And I've been watching the Can-Am develop over the past 3 years now. One of our nearby dealers carries them alongside Big Dog Choppers and Suzuki. Interesting line-up. It's not that what others think will make my decision or unduely influence it, but I am interested in reading others' opinions and thoughts to compare to my own. And I'm checking with a few different demographic groups. Let's face it: swingers tend to march to the beat of their own drum more than most folks! LOL I brought up the "cool factor" and image stuff in the context of what our own perceptions are of bike culture. I mentioned that we are cruiser types, not crotch-rocket people. I wear western style riding boots and a black leather jacket. But my jacket has armor inserts, all the modern upgrades, and even reflective piping on a traditional cruiser jacket frame. I wear a Bell military-style open face helmet and goggles. My wife rides a blacked out (Raven) 2011 Star Stryker. So we sort of blend the old w/the new a bit. I guess I'm hesitant about the style change. Thanks for the input and please keep it coming. You're helping me cogitate. LOL[/quote] Cogitate? I read somewhere that they've come up with a cure for that in the Netherlands.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - we would just like to say for all those who are in uniform and are fighting for this great country we salute you you are real class people and we have alot of respect for all of you,and lets all not forget what the are fighting for, your rights to be free to keep peace here for all our families.and once agian we salute all of you!!!!!!!!!!

Now that Halloween is ending... - now what - There is a great Swingers Halloween Party on Friday, Nov 1 downtown SLC. You can find it under the parties tab on here.

STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER! HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral. Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you. Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not! HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results. 70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding. http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person. There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things. SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner. But if that is not what you wish then: The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested. This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - FORE ! ~ ! ~ ! How are we suppose to golf in this shitty weather ? Grrrrrr. . . go away rain/snow and cloudly skies with Temp's in the 50's !~!~! Please bring on the SUNNY WARM WEATHER SOONER then Later, thank you ;)

How close is too close - - FITZNBELINDA Actually, swinging will very quickly bring out and magnify flaws in a relationship, even in good relationships. The difference is that a good relationship/marriage will use this info to increase the trust and communications and make that relationship stronger. You asked about swingers as compared to the general public... The divorce rate in the general public is between 66 and 77% depending on which figures you are looking at.. THis is both for 1st and 2nd marriages. Approx 70% of all married people, both male and females, in the general public, now will admit to extramarital affairs. Since extramarital sex is the essence of swinging that is not an issue but marriages in the swinging community are stable approximately 85% of the time or only 15% of swingers marriages fail... as compared with 75% failure in the general public... In other words non swingers are 340% more likely to get divorced than swigners... or 3.4 times as likely. Respect is one thing but sometimes Stuff just happens. We don't ask for it we are not open for it but still it still happens.... My love for others has no effect on my wife and my relationship.. She understand who I will be going home with and that I don't wish to cause others grief.. If people are honest with themselves as well as others and you respect people enough to understand what's going on and care about their feelings you just walk away before any damage is done...

Best Swingers club in Cincinnati area? - Swingers clubs - Hi everyone,, want to thank you for the kind words about SinDay, we do try hard to make your night out a great experience, full of fun, and excitement. if I may chime in about Princeton, and 440 also 101. All of you have many choices here in Ohio, there are many clubs to choose from, also in KY and INDY. Sure we at Club SinDay would love for you to always come to our club, but lets be real, no one wants to go to the same place over and over. and its nice to just get away for a change. So we encourage our members to go try other clubs, both for a change, but also, maybe you will come back and tell us what you like about another club, as to help us, improve on our own club. Those of you who have gone to Princeton know its a very big club, and a very nice club. When we designed SinDay we were trying hard to compete with them on the bar area and the dance area, there was no way we could compete with them on size. There is a reason Princeton is number one in Ohio, it is its size. and it is a nice club. I not afraid to say this, they worked hard to be a nice club, as we are working hard to become just as nice. As for 440 and 101, I havent been to either club in years, but have heard they have made a few changes, so you may want to go check them out also. All of the clubs have something different to offer, one may have a house party feel, another may feel more open like a banquet hall, and others may feel like a dance club. it really depends on what you the members are looking for. And the only way you will find out what you like best is by going to these clubs. Please dont let other convince you that one club is better then another, their idea of a club may be way different then what you think a club should be. And you will have some people that are so into a club, that they will down other clubs they have never been to, just to help their home club. so please judge for yourselves, go out, enjoy all the clubs you can, and remember that the number one thing you want from a club, is your own opinion of a club. Ok, ill stop rambling now, thank you for your time, and I hope to see you all soon at SinDay, please come up and say hi. Dane (one of the club owners)