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Whats good for the goose is good for the gander... - - Just one last thought on the subject. I rarely post on these issues, but have to throw this in on this particular thread. I believe the basic question that we all have to ask ourselves is: "Why are we in the LifeStyle to begin with?" I will not presume to answer for anyone on here, but for my wife and I the particular reason is to spend our lives living not living to spend our lives. As far as all the single males, fatties, skinnies bashing that appears to be occurring, folks, we are missing the basic premise of the swinging lifestyle here. It is to meet new people, establish friendships and to reap the benefits of those friendships even if they are just someone to go get a burger with. Just because you are on a "Swingers" site, sex is not all that there is. We are just as happy finding folks that want to grab dinner and see a movie as we are playing around with. Building lasting relationships and having people that one can count on is more important than notching our bedposts. As far as the body weight issue is concerned, K has gone through quite an ordeal to lose over 100 pounds in the past 15 months (and she is looking very good!). To those folks that apply the HWP stipulation to their profiles. all I can suggest is that perhaps you should redefine your limitations. You could be missing out on not only some great friendships, but actually some pretty intense sexual experiences. Kitty, anyone that has anything negative for you should seriously step back and examine who they are, what they want, where they are in life and why they are in this particular lifestyle. And BTW, I am with you on your own little world thing! It is ALL about having fun, making friends and enjoying life. The limits that each individual or couple places upon themselves, is by their choice and I support that choice, but they only limit the experiences they will have in our exceptional community. Secrets, I totally agree with you on the being good at being ourselves point. However, sometimes the choices and perceptions that we have are too overwhelming. Let's face it, no one is born into this lifestyle and all of our ideas, conceptions and beliefs are based on what we learned in our formative years. For some, that includes the perfective (is that a word?) states of looks, shape and health. Is that the goals that should drive us in a lifestyle of this nature? One last thing.....Kendra, love the tat on your back, but MAN that had to hurt!

Happy Thanksgiving - - Happy holidays to all you sexy swingers out there

Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - Going to be in Amsterdam for 2 nights in September and we would like some suggestions for swingers clubs. Has anyone been to Sameplace, it's look like it might be nice. We appreciate any suggestions.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - 78 MG midget

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=JESSEJAMES][quote=EDANY0178][quote=JESSEJAMES][quote=EDANY0178]DVP? [/quote] double vaginal[/quote]Yes me please LOL[/quote] deal![/quote]SWEET!!!

Orgy Party by Swingers Circle in Las Vegas - - [quote=SLCCOUPLEFUN]We attended once, left at the break...comically bad, like something that swinger horror stories are made of. Words can't describe the creep factor vibe that the organizer gives off, we still laugh about it several years later.[/quote] Same here, wouldn't recommend. I'm still having nightmares.

Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - I made a post in the forum with this exact topic, over 300 people have read it but no replys...weird...Check these out they are what you are looking for. http://www.swingrings.com/index.html J & J

How far are you willing to travel ? - - We've had kisses blown to us and I will generally answer with a note but have, as yet, not received our first answer. Most are quite far away and their profile, like yours says that you would like to be friends and hang out with as well as..... (Not exactly what you said but that's what I got out of your profile) If people are like us, we would travel up to 1 to 1.5 hours to meet or to play because that, to us, is a reasonable distance to have a friendship. If we were to meet someone at one of the clubs that we belong to, and became friends we might travel farther/further. If one believes that to travel a greater distance than would be practicle for friendship then that distance would set the limit. On the other hand, if a couple is out strictly for the sexual encounter and has no expectation or wish for friendship then maybe a stop over in a city on the other side of the country might not be out of the question... If someone sends a kiss and the couple respond it would be nice if that couple would acknowledge receipt of a note. Just common courtesy. On another site we have been invited, by a number of folks, to stop by if we ever get in the area for drinks, dinner, play what have you,,,simply because we participate in forums and we may send a note about their profile or their pictures or both... So ultimately it depends on the couples involved.. If someone were to cum here for a week or more and wish to meet and see what happens then that might be an acceptable situation. Or if we were to go to their area for MORE than a day or a few hours,,(Not just passing thru) then maybe we'd want to meet and see what might happen... We are not notchers or hardcord swingers...attraction is part of the equation with us...So distance is part of the equation virtually always. Ray

Howl at the Moon in Channelside _ floridians - - Just curious as to who all is going to HOWL AT THE MOON IN CHANNELSIDE (Tampa) this Saturday night. Apparently there is a swingers meet and greet. We are soooo trying to get a sitter and would love to meet some people there. Send us an email if you ae going.

LDS Survey Results - - [b]LDS Swingers Report[/b] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4436895/All%20Responses.pdf]Link to All Responses (PDF with graphics)[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4436895/Yes%20Very%20Active.pdf]Link to results for those who replied "Yes, Very Active"[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4436895/No%20Removed%20From%20Records.pdf]Link to results for those who replied "No, removed from records"[/url] Not too many surprises, but it is always interesting to me when there are couples who are still active believers. There were 10 responses who said they are still active and 39 who still believe but aren't active. This was a lot of fun for me, so perhaps I'll revise this and do it again in a few months. Feel free to send suggestions and interesting questions. There are a few things I would change if we were to do it again. For example, it would be nice to define what "sex" means or even what "porn" means. Also making all questions individual (not as couples) because some questions don't make sense as a couple. Who is taking this survey? [list]The Mr. (76/122) 62%[/list][list]The Mrs. (22/122) 18%[/list][list]Together (24/122) 19%[/list] Have you ever been married in the temple? [list]Yes (67/123) 54%[/list][list]No (56/123) 45%[/list] Are you still a believing member of the the LDS church? [list]Yes, very active (10/123) 8%[/list][list]Yes, not active (39/123) 31%[/list][list]No, still on the records (54/123) 43%[/list][list]No, removed from records (20/123) 16%[/list] How long have you been swinging? [list]Less than 1 year (12/123) 9%[/list][list]1-3 years (39/123) 31%[/list][list]3+ years (72/123) 58%[/list] Do you feel guilty after a swinging experience? [list]Yes (4/123) 3%[/list][list]No (100/123) 81%[/list][list]Not anymore (18/123) 14%[/list][list]Not sure- haven't actually participated (1/123) 0%[/list] Before getting married, how many people did you have sex with? [list]0 (35/123) 28%[/list][list]1 (8/123) 6%[/list][list]2-5 (34/123) 27%[/list][list]6-10 (17/123) 13%[/list][list]10+ (29/123) 23%[/list] After being married, how many people have you had sex with [list]1 (10/123) 8%[/list][list]2-5 (34/123) 27%[/list][list]6-10 (24/123) 19%[/list][list]10+ (55/123) 44%[/list] Check each of the following if they are true of you and/or your spouse: [list]We watch porn together regularly (41/112) 36%[/list][list]We have watched porn together but not very often (68/112) 60%[/list][list]We enjoy making our own porn (49/112) 43%[/list] Girl on Girl [list]Yes (91/118) 77%[/list][list]No (26/118) 22%[/list][list]N/A (1/118) 0%[/list] Guy on Guy [list]Yes (24/109) 22%[/list][list]No (82/109) 75%[/list][list]N/A (3/109) 2%[/list] Full/Soft swap [list]Yes (113/118) 95%[/list][list]No (5/118) 4%[/list][list]N/A (0/118) 0%[/list] Threesome (F-M-F) [list]Yes (80/113) 70%[/list][list]No (32/113) 28%[/list][list]N/A (1/113) 0%[/list] Threesome (M-F-M) [list]Yes (87/112) 77%[/list][list]No (23/112) 20%[/list][list]N/A (2/112) 1%[/list] Orgy [list]Yes (61/102) 59%[/list][list]No (39/102) 38%[/list][list]N/A (2/102) 1%[/list]