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Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? -

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We (Tami and I) have never ran across anyone that said they didn't want to have sex and only wanted to make friends. We have ran across those that want to be friends (have trust established), first. The latter I can totally understand, as we are two people that require trust in people we play with. We also find attraction in the personality and minds of the individual. Have there been exceptions for us? Yes, however, we have found that "spur of the moment" play was unsatisfying and regrettable. We try not to label people. We just avoid those that are into something we are not. Just as a couple not into anal sex would avoid sexual contact with those seeking anal. We avoid those that want to hook-up on first meetings without inhibition. Why? There are forceful individuals, there are deviants, there are bi-sexual males that think they can touch without permission, there are people who drug others, there are people that smoke pot and others that can't be around it due to their profession. The latter doesn't have to end a friendship as we happen to be in professions that don't allow exposure, we just had to perfect a little dance with our pot smoking friends. Many people view this as a "lifestyle". We certainly view the "free thought and expression" as a "lifestyle" but the "sex with others", is a recreational thing that we can turn on and off like a switch. Sometimes we feel like playin with our swingers buddies and sometimes we just like talking, drink and having other types of fun with them. Swingers or "Libertines", as I like to refer to them, are mostly "free thinker" types so I like to interact with them on other levels as well. Though there are still those types that only swing for the sex and still have closed minds in regard to everything else. Those are the types I find strange. How you can be a conservative swinger is beyond me. However, I respect anyone's desire to fuck. So I do not judge. I just decide who fucks me and my wife. That's all. We all can't be compatible with everyone on all levels, all the time. It's impossible. Whether it's fucking or writing in the forum, there is always gonna be someone that doesn't like you. Trust me, I know this first hand. So, like ole Rick Nelson once said... You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. That's a rule to fuckin live by.
-Don-

Willing To Earn It??? - We're willing to play...but... - You need to stick to what you believe in & what works for you. There are lots of different types of swingers out there. Some like to dive into a dark room with a bunch of naked bodies that they can't even see & go to town. Others just about want to know your whole life story & be reassured 9 different ways to Sunday before the clothes start to come off. Most are somewhere in between. The right ones for you are out there somewhere. You just need to find them. Look on the bright side. You know what you are looking for. That's a good start.

How close is too close - - FITZNBELINDA Actually, swinging will very quickly bring out and magnify flaws in a relationship, even in good relationships. The difference is that a good relationship/marriage will use this info to increase the trust and communications and make that relationship stronger. You asked about swingers as compared to the general public... The divorce rate in the general public is between 66 and 77% depending on which figures you are looking at.. THis is both for 1st and 2nd marriages. Approx 70% of all married people, both male and females, in the general public, now will admit to extramarital affairs. Since extramarital sex is the essence of swinging that is not an issue but marriages in the swinging community are stable approximately 85% of the time or only 15% of swingers marriages fail... as compared with 75% failure in the general public... In other words non swingers are 340% more likely to get divorced than swigners... or 3.4 times as likely. Respect is one thing but sometimes Stuff just happens. We don't ask for it we are not open for it but still it still happens.... My love for others has no effect on my wife and my relationship.. She understand who I will be going home with and that I don't wish to cause others grief.. If people are honest with themselves as well as others and you respect people enough to understand what's going on and care about their feelings you just walk away before any damage is done...

Single Females or Couples open to single men - - Sorry but singles are NOT swingers. You have a 40 year older lady, divorced, and lives alone. She is very open sexually and has a different playmate join her every night of the week. Most are single guys, one is a cheating husband from work, and one is a couple that the wife likes to watch her man fuck other women. The only swingers in that scenario is the couple. The rest are sexually non monogamous I think is the correct 2020 term. The reason we want to make that clear is the same reason people are going crazy on this post. You post you are looking for a single, or hosting a party they can join, then they send a bunch of dick picts and beg to join. When they find out the said party isn’t a fuck-fest orgy they don’t want to come. Yes swingers have sex with other people, but in 2020 and beyond, very selectively! If we can make this clear all the pic collectors and cheaters will move on to Fetlife or something and pose as fake Doms or bulls and leave us alone.

Swinging and Children Don't Mix With Me, What about You? - Unforgettable experience - I have to say, having children and trying to meet with couples can be very hard on your lifestlye. Family always comes first in my book, but it doesn't seem like every parent thinks that, which is why I'm letting you know why they should start thinking about it. We thought that maybe if we could meet with a couple that also have a child or has children, that we could have a better, lasting relationship and have other things to enjoy with these couples, besides just swinging. Well, one couple didn't work out with us and I don't know how to go about letting them know they were wrong in what happened. I'm the only one that even seemed to get upset about the situation and I wanted to get others opionion to make sure I don't owe an opology to them. Here's what happened..... Me and my husband met with a couple at a swingers club, which was off-premise, and we talked some and explained we had children and that we wanted to meet with couples, but it was hard with younsters and it was also hard to find a reliable and trusting babysitter to be able to enjoy the night out. They the told us they had a child and that if we wanted to talk more and get to know each other better, that we could come to their home for a dinner, with our kids. Now...we explained up front that we don't play seperate and we definitely did not play if we had our children with us. They said that it wouldn't be a problem, no hank-panky with kids around, because they too had a small one. This sounded really great to us, because we thought we found a good couple to be friends with and have some extra benefits too, if we wanted. Well, things started out okay. We were greeted at the door by the family, and our kids was introduced to their child, and was showed some computer games and such to play. That gave us time to talk a little to the couple and was shown the outside of their home and such before dinner. After dinner is when everything went WRONG. First, I had to go to the bathroom. Well, while I was gone to the bathroom, the Mrs. decide to give my hubby a tour of the rest of the house, mainly the extra bedroom....and when I asked the hubby where my hubby was, he said.."Don't worry about them, they'll be okay for awhile"...well, that really ticked me off, especially knowing our children were now mixed up in this...and our oldest asking where his daddy went with that lady.....that was about the last straw for me....but I was in these peoples home, not mine, and I respect others homes, but in this situation, I was ready to leave, and without my other half....because he too knew our rules of playing. Well, when the Mrs. and mine came back up, my other half knew I was mad, but for some strange reason, he felt like he had to still play around with her, and in the same room all the children were in!!!! Not to mention, she couldn't keep her hands off him, which was not making my situation of trying to calm down any easier. When I finally got my hubby alone, I "very persistantly" told him me and the kids were leaving...NOW..and if he was smart he had better be out the front door before me or I would leave him there, and I truely meant it. I was so angry and hurt by all of the happenings around me, I thought that if this is what it's like to try and swing...FORGET IT...my nerves or marriage weren't going to stay together if this is what I had to look forward to everytime. My hubby didn't get out the door before me..he was too busy kissing the Mrs good-bye....and I mean french-kissing..... but, thank Goodness I got the kids out the door before me....and that didn't help out any on his part, believe me. We stopped swinging for many years after that because of trust with one another and with other couples saying one thing and then doing another. This particular couple apparently feels that nothing was wrong with what happened, and actually contacted us again after many, many, many years after this incident happened. I'm not one either to "shun" anyone, but this expereince really bothered me then, and still does, and after them contacting us again, through an e-mail, not by phone, it makes me wonder about my feelings on the matter. Am I wrong to feel this way, even after all these years? I do trust my husband NOW, after the bad expereinces, because there was one more after that, but it took alot of talking, yelling, and regaining a trust that is hard to achieve after something that drastic that involved your kids in the process. I e-mailed them back, but I know it was short and blunt, nothing mean, I don't do things like that, but what if they try again to contact us...what do I say? Any help/advice/opinions is appreciated. Hope no one ever has to expereince something like this...most marriages would never have lasted unless you really had a great understanding with your mate, and we put ours to the test and passed.......barely.

Small Towns - - Meh. We say keep it hidden. Ms. Evil and I think it's much more fun that we have a dirty little secret that our neighbors would likely soil their garments if they knew. Most are extremely jealous (a few have even admitted it) when they see us sitting on our porch Sunday mornings in clothing they are encouraged not to wear, sipping our mochas while they drive by on their way to 3 hours of sheer boredom and oppressive indoctrination. It would just be too annoying if EVERYBODY swung (swang? swingded?...need coffee NOW!). I honestly think some of the most insufferable Mormons I know would be just as insufferable if they were swingers as well. Let's keep swinging on the DL and not let all the straights know how much fun it is. [em]Emo_96[/em]

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - [quote=JEFFSMITH1972]Can we talk about the kind of car we would drive if we won the lottery? [img]http://www.thesupercars.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/2009-bugatti-164-veyron-fbg-par-hermes-thumbnail.jpg[/img] Bugatti Veyron....cliche, but dude....just taking it across Europe...oooo..... I'm in a '99 Accord, can't complain :) Not as capacious as the minivan, not as thrilling as the camaro, and not as powerful as a truck, but I did find out that the governor stops it at 137 mph ;) [/quote] dude I didn't even look at this thread and you have the same taste as I do ! ~ ! ~ I about shit, when I saw that you posted that car as well. . . Most people that I talk to have no idea what I'm talking about when I bring up that BAD ASS SLED !

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - My 2005 Avalanche with 9 inch lift on 37's

Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - So based on another thread and a little quick and dirty research, we decided to test out the efficacy of publicly displaying obvious signs of a person in the LS to attract other members of the LS. At an undisclosed location in Harmon’s, in the District, in South Jordan 🤫 I loaded a grocery cart with swinger swag. See attached photo. I chose to do this on a Sunday afternoon to filter out more vanillas AND wore a black ring on my right hand, wedding ring on my left. Results: A few weird looks and no LS comments. We’ll retry this at another Harmon’s in Swingerville. AKA: Draper. Help us out peeps, where is the flaw in our experiment? 🤪 More 🍍 maybe? Oh and the unicorn cereal tastes like rainbow cupcake batter. Big hit with our little girl. 🤢

Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - As we posted earlier, we're going on a cruise out of Galveston on 4/1. This is NOT a lifestyles cruise. We'll be traveling with another couple, but what we're looking for is a way to let others know we're in the lifestyle. We're not looking for t-shirts that say "We are in the alternate lifestyle!!" - but rather something stylish like a necklasce, ring, bracelet, etc. If you have a suggestion on clothing that has a logo that others in the lifestyle would recognize we'd love to know about it. If you have found a way, or know of sites on the internet that have what we're looking for - we would enjoy hearing you! Thanks in advance!