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Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this. It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more. Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell. It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.) You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.) Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - We have been in the lifestyle for a few years and have had the pleasure to play with single men alone and in party situations. Occasionally there is a man who turns things into a "sausage fest". Meaning; we have seen married men pushed from the fray by single men, and the women being overwhelmed by uneven numbers. We have also had the pleasure (and I mean that literally) of playing with very respectful single men. I hate the fact that for some one bad apple... unfortunately that is kinda how it is among human beings. Sadly the majority of our experiances have not been really positive. There is the risk of attachment (been there, not good) We like the even numbers, in a house party situation but if what we are looking for is a threesome... Bring it on! By the way The name has nothing to do with it for us, I mean we are dodge! lol

Just a little friendly advise to most single male swingers. - Male swingers - Well said, Benz!

Swinging and politics. - - Which political candidate do you think would be most swinger friendly? 1) Duh, Trump. Fucker's been married...a LOT, to like supermodels...and likely is banging a few on the side. He'd totally be down with swinging. 2) Bernie Sanders. I mean think about it...socialism? Sharing EVERYTHING in society...including each others spouses? Socialism is ALL about swinging! 3) Hilary. She was totally cool with Bill gettin' a little head in the Oval Office so she'd be fine with leaving all us nasty swingers to our own devices. 4) Mike Huckabee. Cuz...well, cuz...I dunno, maybe somethin' to do with the Bible and concubines or something. Or maybe something to do with Duggars? Fine, that one's a stretch. 5) Cruz or Rubio. Hot Latin lovers, need I say more? 6) This is by FAR the stupidest poll yet, Evil. Politics is serious business and I for one can't wait to exercise my right as a citizen to vote...and maybe have a post-election orgy at my house. 7) Rand Paul. Hey, he says he's a Libertarian or a librarian (librarians are HOT!) or something so he'd be down with a little wife swapping. 8) Carly Fiorina. Yeah she's one hot babe and I can tell she wants it BAD! 9) Lindsey Graham. Cuz, well cuz he's prolly at LEAST bi. 10) I dunno. Probably one of those total kooks running on like the Constitution or Green party tickets. Some of those guys look like they live in a cave or a box under the viaduct.

Bubulaplease - Confidentiality - Something that has bothered me a little bit...when we went to Lumpys the doorman asked if we were there for the Sinful event. We says yes and as we were walking down the stairs some people upstairs asked him what was going on and he said it was a swingers party. I mentioned it to a few people that night and it seemed that it was a normal occurrence. We realize that going to the events we may run into someone we know, however, people who don't know about our lifestyle also go to lumpys. I would hate for them to know there was a swingers party going on and then see us leaving or something. My question..is this normal? Is it this way at, say, Sandy Station? Do the group organizers ask for confidentiality?

Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - As a shy 🦄 this would be very helpful in letting me know which couples are safe to eye fuck in public . Haha.

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - [quote=FUNCOUP4SEX]I wear an ankle bracelet on my right ankle, which is supposed to indicate we are into Swinging/Hotwifing. Haven't had one person approach us, or appear to notice it at this point. But it's fun and naughty, so we still go out with it. :) [/quote] Ah yes, the old (hot) wives tale of the ankle bracelet. [em]Emo_4[/em] Got into a rather heated argument with a guy on the other swingsite we're on regarding that subject a few years ago. He was ADAMANT that it was a surefire way to identify other swingers as well as hotwives. I finally posted a pic of a group of tweens I saw down at City Creek Center...all wearing ankle bracelets. [em]Emo_49[/em]

"Swinger Robots"?? - WtF?, Now, on top of everything else, we have to worry about Robot Swingers? - Ah, give the guy a break. He might just have thought it was funny like some lady's boob flopping out of her dress in an incredibly public situation, and isn't NECESSARILY transphobic. I'd suggest that there ought to be a term for folks who think someone inadvertantly embarrassing themselves is funny, except that I fear it'd probably end up being something like "normal". As Valentine Michael Smith said, "Perhaps I don’t grok all its fullness yet. But find me something that really makes you laugh, sweetheart … a joke, or anything else – but something that gave you a real belly laugh, not a smile. Then we’ll see if there isn’t a wrongness in it somewhere and whether you would laugh if the wrongness wasn’t there.” “I had thought – I had been told – that a ‘funny’ thing is a thing of a goodness. It isn’t. Not ever is it funny to the person it happens to." ~Terry '.

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site -

Wishbones - - seems like every swingers club has had the same disscussion with different symbols. getting to the point where you can't wear any kind of jewelry with out being labeled something or other. how about something more club oreinted like a swingular necklace or bumpersticker. there will still be those who would rather be more descrete but something the club should consider. as far as the wishbone? we'll wait and see if it becomes a fad or not.