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Moving - - I am seriously thinking I should move to Utah. Without going into a long discriptive reason why. And if you have read some of my posts you'ld know why. Untop of the fact that Ytah seems to be full of swingers that are healthy. I can't seem to find work in my home area of PA. You would think that a 30 year old cook,with ServeSafe and Department of Agriculture, Bureau of Food Safety and Laboritory Services certifications. Would be able to find a job real easy. And I have seen people get promoted to resaurant management for a lot less. In fact I worked at a Chi-Chi's a couple years back. And was asked to train for management by the district and regional managers. While I was training one of the pot head cooks got his waitress girl friend pregnant. They promoted him as soon as they found out. Maybe, I'm not getting the jobs I want because I'm open about swinging. Add to that I am 30 years old and single. Maybe I'm single cause I'm open about swinging. Eitherway I am in a bad situation and it needs to change. Pretty soon the bank is going to reposess my truck. And that will leave me screwed.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - If you choose individually not to play with singles, then that is ok. We all have our preference. However, why try and bad mouth the entire group, in an attempt to demonize them to everyone else or to exclude them from social gatherings.
But Don I am not trying to demonize them ALL I did say in my experiance 75 to 80% ...
LOL... I just host M&G and meet them there other than spend my time on emails.... and I don't bad mouth the entire single males group...... trust me I do give them a chance when writting to me... now if right of the bat I get can we chat on yahoo?... can we trade pics?... I say...pics for what?... you can see mine on here... I say am sorry but I don't think we are a match... now if it was like that pesky one this morning I say FU I already blocked you for a reason....
I host M&G's ever month over here... last time we had 3 cpls and and 10 single guys in my room... so obviously I don't push them all away....
Now Uluv...... he seems like a preatty decent, respectfull guy... but he is not our type, that is all... and I don't think we are his type either... so you see we all have our preferance when it comes to who we are going to take to the room, car, beach, rooftop ...lol
Trying to find a fun "lifestyle-nude" resort for a vacation... - any suggestions... which are better.. hedo11, hedo111, desire, etc.. (others) thanks - We have been to a number of the nudist resorts around the Southeast US and Florida. The posts that advise that overtly sexual activity in the public areas is not allowed are correct.
That is not to say that there is not some touching and flirting but it is generally in the hot tub or conversation pools and very late at night.
The more "adult" nudist resorts we have visited are:
Paradise Lakes, north of Tampa -- nice upscale resort. The dance on Saturday night can get very close to an off premises swingers club. Couples can connect at the dance, move to the conversation pool and then back to your room or condo.
Caliente, a bit farther north of Tampa -- a true resort, very upscale. The dance on Saturday night can get wild but in our experience a bit more restrained (other than the ladies costumes) when compared to Paradise Lakes.
Both Paradise Lakes and Caliente have Yahoo Groups that serve as an swingers introduction service.
Pleasure Grove -- north of Atlanta near Cleveland GA. -- This is not an AANR resort so they are more relaxed about adult play. It is couples only, adults only. After the dance on Saturday night the party moves over to the Charter House. The Charter House is an on premises swingers forum. The problem is the accomdations are very rustic and the crowd can be small in numbers and large in other ways.
One thing to remember as you explore adult resorts is that not all nudists are swingers and not all swingers are nudists.
If you decide to try any of this adult play grounds, drop us a line. We have a home in Florida about an hour from Paradise and Caliente and a home in the mountains about 15 minutes from Pleasure Grove.
Swingers clubs are the new singles hangout? - - Actually I am referring to clubs like Ranch4Play in Eustis and the Playground in Samsula. I have also heard that the ponderosa has seen a small increase in the numbers of single men and women who are not necessarily interested in the lifestyle but are looking for that special someone to share their life with.
Richard
B_k_lovers - Getting over first-time jitters - ^^Most definitely
Honestly, a large part of the lifestyle (in our experience) is figuring out what you want and how to communicate that with other couples. Personally, I would not just strip unless I'm sure all 4+ people are on the same page.
They did a few seminars on this topic at Young Swingers Week in Jamaica last week. There were some good pointers there, such as using body language/touch (shoulder is casual, elbow is more interested, small of back is intimate) and gauging reactions. Or giving the other couple plenty of chances to say "yes" either through word or action by opening up opportunities to do so.
One of the things that we like to do as a couple is invite another couple (or single friend, or small group) over to play naughty board games. Turns out you can turn any game into a strip game if you're creative enough, and that's a good way to allow people to ease into whatever their comfort level is. Every gets as naked as they feel is comfortable, then you can start swapping "favors" or "truth or dare" style challenges or whatever instead of stripping once you're as naked as you want to be.
Swingers of Color - - I did wonder about that as recently as 7 yrs ago. Today the number of blacks and mixed couples is doing well and increasing everyday. Hispanics are also coming more to the fore in recent years... And the statistics of only a few years ago are now defunct. More and more 45 - 60 yr olds are joining the ranks of swingers. Many are looking for simply another couple for friendship with benefits on an exclusive basis but it's still swinging.. The empty nesters and retirees are on the move. Don't sell them short either... experience is really worth something.
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - TCMISSY... Let us know where to get that game (Blush).
A good dare for a woman is........ she has to put her cell phone on vibrate and insert it inside herself. Everyone takes turns calling her. We have a game that has that and it was hilarious.
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I wear a black silicone ring on my pinky finger. The silcone is more comfortable than a hard ring. But never had anyone acknowledge it was a swinger ring. Funny Story. On a first date with a girl that I had asked her # at a dance club. On the first date she said one of her past relationships was with a man that had been a swinger and she didn't want that again. She never swung as far as I know. Awkward! I'm sitting there with my ring on. I wish you couples would line me up with friends you think would enjoy the LS. Sorry, but I'm not getting married again till we have proven to be compatible over time, a long time. 17 years of loyal monogamy so don't give me shit about SM suck and are only validated once they are with a woman. I was happy as a vanilla but wanted to have more fun in many ways. No! sexual expression was not the reason I left. But if sure is fun to finally have my sexual freedom back. Not all will enter the LS by vanilla marriage turned swinger. Any suggestions on how to meet women who would like the LS are welcomed.
Las Vegas Swingers club - - We are locals. Most agree that Whispers and Playhouselv are the places to go.
Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Bottom line is, no matter how big an area you reside in, (it can be the entire state) if you drop dime, it WILL catch up with you! Always best to keep your guts on the inside...
~D&T~
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