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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Bunny, It's stuck... help! -D-

Frappr Web Toy - A cool free Google thing - That site is neat. I was in there already under my str8 handle in a cycle group but added the both of us to both the cycle swingers and U.S. swingers.

In response to GSC posts and Swingular. - - Lookie what I found in my inbox today..... ------------------ From: NTAKTAGF [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:37 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: NTAK Update Fri 11/02 Kind of long. Swingers, Here is an update as of Friday, November 02, 2007. SW Admin did contact NTAK counsel today. The essentials of this conversation were relayed to us by counsel over the phone. As we understand it, Rob has removed GSC

Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - [quote=ROYFUN]Me and my GF are heading to Las Vegas tomorrow morning. She is curious about the lifestyle and want to take her somewhere fun but not to wild. Any recommendations? [/quote] Flirtslv is our favorite club. Check out their website. Flirtslv.com

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=GOODWINE5646]I was a journalist and I know Heidi. Hers was a reasonable, balanced report that focused on one woman who clearly had an awful experience. I'm sad she focused on a couple who were LDS. From our experience, I suspect she represents the majority who "try" swinging. There was a TV story done many years that was far worse than this one.[/quote] Please explain how you define "balanced." A balanced report on one woman's experience? The woman she reports on was abused. "Looking back, Susan said she feels like she was groomed into the lifestyle." "It was a lot of pushing by my ex-husband, a lot of coercing. He had friends call and talk to me about it." This is typical of an abusive relationship. She was thrown into the lifestyle to cure her relationship, let's also talk about the other abused women forced to do things they aren't interested in, that would be balanced. Also, "but she contracted the STD after he engaged in solo sex with another woman." Interesting, this solo woman could have been a swinger, a woman he picked up at a bar, a church function, or even a prostitute. Not a very clear report on this abusers sexual escapades. I'm just glad "Suzan" was still wearing her black ring..

ARE THEY REAL? - - T4, Well the thing is.....we have over 2200 views on our profile and those people have probably got as much action off this site as us. I think there are ALOT of fakers out there in Swingular land. We have all but given up on meeting real swingers on this site, (maybe we need to fly out East and hook up with some of you real swingers!!!) I mainly use the site now for the forum, hopefully I will be proven wrong. ~K~

Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - There are a lot of Utah members on here because it is based here in Utah and Rob does a great job of promoting it locally.

Are you still interested! - Dynamics amoung swingers - Two comments I am going to try to keep short. First.. there are the couples we see somewhat regularly, we enjoy the more intimate moments with them, but we need to take a break every so often and just be friends. We are glad they understand that. When we are ready to get back into the bedsheets with them, its much more meaningful and fun. We respect them when they feel the need to become vertical friends for a while and not horizontal. So its not always a loss of interest, just a temporary change of scenery or personal events in our life... (Then again, some people do have issues that change their attitude towards lifestyles altogether.. and you have to respect their needs when they become just vanilla). Second. Old topic, but similar in nature to this string. Whatever happened to plain old honesty? Its a frustrating experiences to chat over a period of time, feel a friendship is developing, finally meet and spend a great eveing together... talk about getting together again soon only to be continually stood up or given a rash of excuses. I think everyone understands that finding a good match with another couple comes with several disappointments. Its so much easier to accept when you are told straight out that its not going to work out, rather than being lead on and on with the premise that there is something developing. Common courtesy goes along way and commands respect. Even after a relationship that may have developed for extended periods of time, why not be truthful and let the other party know when the interest is dying or gone? Or when its just a social relationship you are comfortable with.. why not be honest? There are some great friendships that can be made here that dont require sex. It happens to all of us.. think about how you want to be treated when you are on the recieving end. HUGS... Cyn, (and him)

is soft swap swinging??? - -

YOUNGANDSEXY,

Anyone who tells you that soft swap is not swinging, is not a swinger. They are trying to oppress you with their idea of sex and relations with others. That in itself goes defies the definition of swinger. So just say fuck those fuckin fuckers. They are not worth your time. Vaginal intercourse with a stranger, does not make a swinger. If that were true, then all prostitutes are swingers. If it were me, I would say, "I'll full swap if I can take a morning shit in your fuckin mouth." Be sure to tell them they're not true swingers unless they fully open up to you. Lay on the pressure. See how they fucking like it. I hate fuckin' people that use snakey tactics and pressure.


-Don-

Exclusive Couples - couples who are committed to another couple - Ok! You have heard from someone who is poly....ME. But we are still swingers and no one expects us to be exclusive either.... anymore than we expect them to remain true to us and us alone. Polyamorous is a conjunction of a Greek and a Latin word. Means to love more than one.....I don't fall in love with everyone that we have sex with but I do have 2 secondary relationships. One woman is separated and we met her in the lifestyle.. We love, yes WE love her as much as people can feel love. The other were seeing what swinging was about and came to a club that we attend. The lady and I started talking and then on line and we discovered that we loved each other. I stopped by their house and talked to her husband and we, that couple and us are great friends and she and I are lovers.... and everything is open and above board. Recently while I was in the hospital from a heart attack, they came to visit everyday. So poly really isn't about swinging at all but there are poly people in swinging who are looking for exclusive relationships... I let people know that I'm poly because if the lady and I hit it off...... I don't want any surprises... BUT I never go looking for that type of loving relationship in the swinging community, i.e., "the lifestyle" I think that some people use the word without a true understanding of what poly really is... Poly can involve sexual relationships but those are based on love not sexual recreation. My wife is not basically poly however, she loves that lady who is not attached as much as I do... so in a way she may be poly but does not wish to define herself that way. When talking about poly and swinging one has to make a distinction as to what people are looking for in a relationship. And, let's not kid ourselves...swinging and sex with people outside of your marriage or relationship is really a relationship aleit maybe a short lived one but one all the same. I'm just a person who can and does love more than one person. Like being hetro or BI or whatever..... that's just part of my make up.. I have chosen to be a swinger and if it lead to something I hope that I have let people know ahead of time and found out their feelings on that possibility... If they are not open to that but are sexually attracted, then we can keep it on that basis and I simply have to be aware. I think it can best be analoged to a couple or one of the partners in a couple being bi. They find a couple to play with but that couple are not bi or have no curiosity in that bent.... So they play and the bi part is never an issue because they discussed it beforehand and everybody was fine with the situation.... I belong to a poly group here in my state. the group is more a discussion group although they get together once a month and every mon or Fri to discuss poly issues. Most of the people who are in that group, over 300, will say that poly and swinging are two entirely separate issues and they are totally unrelated. There are a number of members, both single and couples, who are also listed on swinger sites....They are looking for sexual companionship and maybe, if it happens, loving relationships... So poly and swinging are not so exclusive nor does it mean that poly swingers are only looking for LTRs any more than bi women will only play with couples who have bi women in them.... Being poly of Bi ain't an issue...playing is... There may be some who are in the lifestyle to find lovers... Easy to find out and make a decission about....