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Same Sex Marriage - If you support - I support gay marriage.
I support my sister's right to love whom she chooses, to give her heart and soul to the person she chooses. My sister just happens to love another woman.
Why is her love any less than yours or mine?
How does her being able to marry the person she loves hurt your marriage or take away from your relationship?
Gays would take the same vows would they not? They'd make the same commitments? They'd love, cry, fight, makeup just the same?
I'm tired of the sanctimonious, claims of how gay marriage will weaken straight marriage. Is your marriage that damn insecure that someone else being allowed to marry will cause issues for you?
I'm tired of the what next argument. Folks will be marrying goats. BS!
How about this one, swingers shouldn't be allowed to marry because of how they trash their vows to remain faithful? Not too cool? Stay out of the love lives of others and you'll get the same in return.
You want your version of love and commitment respected, how about giving some of that respect in return?
First time? - - Well said by doers...I think its normal for different approaches to this as well. We've been members on here for quite sometime now, but we really havent done anything in this while...I guess we wouldn't call ourselves "swingers" either but we do enjoy going to the occasional party/event from time to time and catching up with old friends...both of you need that communication as one maybe "ready" whereas the other may not be...that being said...the one that feels "ready" should never be pushy...just take it slow...have fun..and in time, things will happen ;)
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - HMMM KT that one is very good, only YOU can think of something as erotic as that... Can we choose ALL OF THE ABOVE? lol
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - we were kinda getting busy last night when the story aired, and just now watched it on the web. Wanted to add something useful to this thread, but see that it has taken a downward, spiraling turn into some geeky abyss.
New Relationships - - [quote=Trulie][quote=EVILDOERS]Yep. Swinging is couples centric. If there weren't couples what would swinging even be? Hooking up. But there are plenty of couples who also like to add the occasional single to the mix. Hell, some even play that way exclusively. As far as single swingers meeting each other to form relationships (if I'm reading you correctly) that's a much tougher row to hoe. We've seen a few singles become couples over the years but they're in the minority unfortunately. The lifestyle is a tough place to date and find love for many reasons. Many couples WILL give you more than a casual look if you indeed have a regular play partner that you can bring to add to the mix. Otherwise you'll just kind of have to resign yourself to the plight of a single guy in the lifestyle. Sorry, life isn't always fair.[/quote]
This ^^ it isn't always about "hooking" up. Sometimes it's about having open-minded friends that you can just hang with, sometimes it's about treating your significant other for their birthday... but we all know, she runs the show, if she's not into it, nothing is happening![/quote]
You got it right buddy.
We miss our friends :(
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=HOTTIEHOGANS]I LOVE dp :) love love love. I would like to try dvp too. but we don't do single guys and finding girls that want to do it/allow their hubby's to do it is difficult. :([/quote]
Is single out because of the worry about attachment? What about a married guy playing alone?
Children - - am a momma bear when it comes to my kids. They know am a nudist but they DO NOT know my lifestyle. The reason why they don't know about it is because I think in their teen age years they have a lot to worry about and also they are discovering the world outside the home. I give them a lot of advise and talk a lot to them to the point that they know what is swinging but again they do not know that we are swingers. My 14yr old daughter knows that am bi because a lot of her friends are bi and she was very confused as to the whole thing.
Not even our closes swing friends know my kids. We each talk about our kids and brag about them. I have met theirs and this summer we are planning to have the families join but this is ONLY because we have been friends for a while and we talk and know a lot about each other even private problems that only the closes family members would know. I know how they are with their kids and they know about how we are with ours, so I am comfortable with them meeting them.
I chatted with a cpl for a long time and we even played a few times. We got comfortable with each other and in one conversation the topic about the kids came up... We talked and bragged about the kids. After a few weeks I was asked if I wanted to see their kids on cam. I said ok just because we had played and talked a lot. I saw their kids and everything seemed normal. It turned out after a while the mother told me her daughter was bi and she loves to watch her daughter have "fun" with her friends. She sits back, plays with herself and tells her daughter what to do, another thing that was disturbing to me is that this person is a high school math teacher.
MY KIDS ARE OFF LIMITS... even when am chatting, emailling or just checking the site my laptop is posittioned in a way that no one can see the screen except who ever is in front of it. I also know that newborns till about 4 or 5 depending on the child development is ok to do as you please, but I remember things when I was 5 years old, things that my mom says but you where so small. To my opinion anything older than that should not be exposed to anything.
There are so many sick minds out there. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING.
Swingers unnerve families at hotel - - The morning radio station had one of the fathers of the soccer team players live on a call this morning and he said the kids saw alot ..more by the pool ....They had to send some kids to thier rooms and the kids are like\" why are we being punished\"? LOL He also said it was terrible planning the next time they will NOT go there ...
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Friend collectors or swingers - - Well...if this is any indicator, we currently have 61 pending friend requests. None of which sent us a message to go along with their request.🤨 And after looking at the sender’s profile (not a match ...nothing in common), it’s apparent most are simply looking to see the pictures in our private album. We’re not always in Utah as we have homes in several states, but we’re beginning to think this is a Utah thing. 🤔
GLTA
Porn & Marriage - Since we're the most sexually liberal people... - k, I have a friend who found porn on her husband's computer. In this case, she's not a swinger, and she's actually gorgeous, but doesn't quite have the body she used to because of pregnancy and a couple of C-sections. Huge body image issues, always had them, had an eating disorder in high school because of it. She goes to talk to her husband (only been married 6 weeks) and then he locks his computer so she can't get on it anymore. They aren't swingers, but she's not a prude either.
Thoughts? Anyone?
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