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Utah? - - Is there anything in Utah besides swingers?
We're seriously considering our relocation options and I want to know if I should put a bug in the wifes ear about Utah.
After seeing how many swingers reside there vs other states...I'm interested! :)
Question for those in the lifestyle - What is the answer! - I'm not going to speculate as to who caused his dilemma, there's not information and it's one sided. I think his main problem now is VENUE.
Why would you choose swinging as a method for satisfying your sexual REQUIREMENTS? You're not going to find a more unsympathetic group of people when it comes to cheating, it goes against the whole ideology of swinging. Why not open a road side porn shop in Iran, sooner our later you will have a customer but you'll mostly get dirt blown in your face.
I'll give you the 4 stars for the honesty, it's always good to have a heads up you might get named in a civil suit (divorce) and have to appear in court and explain to the good judge why we were bedding her hubby and how we all met, so yes you get props for the honesty.
Among our vanilla friends which includes people we work with, family members, friends of friends etc. the number of swingers pales in comparison to the number of cheaters. If this group ever UNIONIZES we are in deep doody, they have the numbers in membership.
Also, I think most of the non-married single men in the lifestyle would tell you being single can be a challenge without any "issues". You would also be far more welcomed in the union group (cheaters) and they would be more sympathetic to your needs as you would for their needs. This kind of "sharing" could even lead to a long term cheating relationship, I've never seen one last but you could be the first.
If there's one theme that runs through profiles I'd say "NO DRAMA" is one of the top 5 on the countdown list. Your "unique" situation has the potential of bringing great drama to couples who just like getting naked with a few friends as an escape from everyday life.
You have been on this site well over 2 years, that could mean you have had a lot of dirt blown in your face and you thought it was time to mount an ad campaign.
My advice, look for the UNION LABEL.
Can bieng Mormon (LDS) and a Swinger co-exist? - - Every time I see this topic somewhere I wait until there are a number of replys and then put my $ 1.28.7 ( dollar three eighty seven ) into the pot. Religion is a means to control populations. Moral and ethics are dictated by religion and or organized religion first and then government... But lest we forget that organized religion was the government in the early days of the church.. Monogamy is the product of religion and government to make sure of heritage and property rights. BTW this is not simply a Christian practice but many religions do exactly the same thing..
Now, as for the Bible. The Bible is a collection of books and stories that were handed down by word of mouth and then laid down in writing in Sanskrit, and ancient Hebrew and then to a more modern form of Hebrew as well a Ancient Greek.. then a more modern version of Greek. These text were translated by the "Holy" Roman Church and transcribed for humanity and the masses control by monks under papal control. many of the Cannons of the Roman Catholic Church have been more or less adopted by the secular or temporal law, the law of the government. Some things need to be understood about the Bible. IT was written by men translated from dead languages or languages that had changed and it is entirely possible that it was manipulated for the purposes of the Church...
So where does that put us.... We believe what we want to, what we have been programmed to or we modify that programming to allow for us to do what we feel we have a right to do. What we believe will allow us to still live a good life even if it is against the mores and ethics of the church and or the temporal laws. It kind of like going 70 in a 65 MPH zone... We feel we have a right, besides we'll probably not get caught and maybe we just want to see if we will get caught.. Doing things against ones religion is like that to some extent... Maybe God is watching Mary down the street. Maybe I don't believe that my church is right. Maybe heaven and hell are a fabrication of religion to keep us in line... Maybe God was invented by man to explain why things are what they are and why things happen the way they do...
Do we have to reconcile our lives to religious "BELIEFS" or do we live our lives the best way we know. Harm no one if possible. Live life to the fullest, it's too short to play it too safe. Oh and before I forget, someone stated that they love their creator....Isn't that kind of like swinging.... He/She is not our mate. Oh and how about the old testament... All the wives of Solomon and David. How about Isaac... His wife gave him her hand maden and besides if you look at the text... he already had several concubines as did many other biblical figures.... I think maybe we could call them all swingers.....So beat this subject to the ground and in the end it's all up to what you WANT to BELIEVE.
Why make it so HARD? - pic posting - Pics are a huge part of successfully meeting someone on ANY dating site. It has been proven that your chances are 80% greater. Everyone understands the need to be discrete for some people but there are things you can do to get around that. First, of all, you are on a swingers dating site and anyone else who is on here, is here for the same reason. The chance of someone stumbling onto this site and finding you is very, very slim. There are thousands of adult sites out there. Honestly, they would have to have some presumption of you being on here in the first place to even get close. With that said though, that chance can still worry some people but that is why we have private and custom photo albums. It allows you to pick and choose who you wish to view your photos. So unless you use your real names or a familiar username on your profile, there is no way anyone can relate your profile to your real person. As a second measure of protection, cut off the picture at your heads or blur out your faces. Then as you move along in your contact, send an attachment with just your faces.
There are plenty of ways you can protect yourself yet still allow someone to see your photos. But if you still believe that someone is going to catch you with those slim chances, then maybe your best bet is to not even create profiles on a dating site. Because without pics, you probably won't meet many people.
Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - We use the net, as clubs are not an option for us at this point in time. We have met some great people, but would love to meet more!
Sue
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - [quote=Wildcatz]So I couldn't resist doing some research on the legal side....as we know Utah is a legal mess when it come to sexual issues. But, I did find how a swingers club in Tennessee got around the entire issue....ready for this? They became a church!
Religion in Utah has some serious protections and freedoms. Might be the way around the problem..[/quote]
That is a good idea!
I wonder about the membership idea, don't have a cost to attended but people must buy memberships.
I have seen a lot of unique ideas in the tech area. One being membership tokens. These tokens have value and are traded but they can be used for access and services, if the club had no cost but only membership tokens, it may work around the law.
Here is how a strip club in Vegas is using them. https://legendsroomlv.com/
Would something like that fly here?
Wannabes and net fakes - Will the real lifestyle members please stand up - Well said!----We agree completely. We have another term to add to your list: cyber-swinger. It's a wanna-be that doesn't really have the balls to be in the lifestyle so they hide behind their computer screen. We try to sort them out very quickly. After an introduction email or two we talk on the phone and then offer to meet for drinks. If there's any reluctance---they're done. We have neither the time or energy to waste on cyber-swingers. Fortunately for us they have been the rare exception. We have been lucky enough to meet some wonderful people so far and are looking forward to meeting lots more! ;)
Mardi Gras 2007!!!!! - Its never too early to plan - A group of people from Las Vegas have worked with a hotel in New Orleans and set up the entire hotel for a huge swingers gathering at Mardi Gras for 2007. The event is open to anyone and we hope will help with getting New Orleans back on its feet. We know this past Mardi Gras was a success for the city but next year should be a huge blow out.
Already half the rooms of the hotel are booked. So they are going quickly. The package is for just the room and transportation to the airport upon the completion of Mardi Gras. It also includes access to theme rooms throughout the hotel and access to specific rooms for balcony access to Bourbon street and a walk down the parade route.
For more information please check out http://www.mardigrasswingers.com/ when you sign up remember to let them know that Alini refered you.
An entire hotel dedicated to swinging couples at Mardi Gras. Its as close to heaven as it gets......well you know what we mean.
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - We agree. SOMEWHENTIME , where did you get yours? What type of ring would you all prefer? Do you like the idea of the silicone rings. Hell we could even print on it your preference. MW4MW OR MMF MFF whatever it may be.
Ken and Barbie Syndrome...... - is this a real affliction? - So we just read Classy's profile. We find nothing wrong with it. In fact, we agree completely. Wish we had worded ours to say it that well. We also prefer face pics. That is the most important to us.. face pics. besides.. Parts is parts.
Just because someone thinks they want to fuck you, doesn't mean you have to fuck them...
We may be here as swingers, but we don't have to swing with everybody.. there HAS to be attraction. We realise that we don't appeal to everybody either. :)
Maggi & Luke
PS. You crack me up UTHOT :)
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