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Where to start? - So many options, so little time! - Sorry but people’s advice here is waaay to complicated. And honestly not really specific for these times. Make a promise to each other that no matter what happens you will be honest with each other. This is the key! And you will be respectful and honest with whom you meet. Then find a meet and greet style of party, show up, meet people and ASK QUESTIONS! Swingers love to help newbs. Use the car ride there and home to have honest discussions of the wants and why and then after you meet people positives and whom you might wanna ask out for a date. If you start right now trying to find blind dates on sites like this you may get so frustrated you will quit before you start. It’s a disaster. Most things are moving to fb because people are tired of this online fake profile/cheater mess.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - A Memorial Tribute To help the friends and family, to understand the call. That took your names from off lifes list, and place it a this Wall... You fought a war, unpopular, in Nam so far away. And now you've found the greatest peace, as we stand here and pray... Beyond the Wall we hope to find, the reason for it all. Why you with pride went far away, to answer duty's call... Perhaps the flag that others burn, became your symbol proud. Why you gave life, proclaim your love, of country, very loud... So rest in peace, my Warrior, my nurse and doctor too. And rest assured forever more, we'll all remember you... The Wall means much to everyone, these names on granite cast. To keep your memories alive, as long as time will last... So look upon the granite face, and touch the names with pride. For all their spirits linger there, beyond the Wall, inside... ~~This verse was placed in "The National Archives" on September 30, 1993.~~ ----------- They walk along the granite block, past names all etched in stone. Among so many others here, but feel so all alone... So many here to touch a soul, that passed so long ago. And tears now streak from off your cheek, emotions, have to show... There are so many people here, who wish the pain to end. Why not reach out a hand to them, to listen, be a friend... The Wall can bridge the largest gap, it made our nation one. We thank the nurses one and all, and every soldier, son... Whose names we see forever etched, upon the granite stone. Though painful make us realize, that we are not alone... The sacrifice, that you all made, that bring us to this shrine. Bring all those closer, left behind, perhaps the grand design... ------------------------ God Bless America!! Thank you to Men and Women that gave us the Freedoms we have! And Thank You to Those that continue to do so Today, Tomorrow and in the Future!! -------------

Question for those in the lifestyle - What is the answer! - I'm not going to speculate as to who caused his dilemma, there's not information and it's one sided. I think his main problem now is VENUE. Why would you choose swinging as a method for satisfying your sexual REQUIREMENTS? You're not going to find a more unsympathetic group of people when it comes to cheating, it goes against the whole ideology of swinging. Why not open a road side porn shop in Iran, sooner our later you will have a customer but you'll mostly get dirt blown in your face. I'll give you the 4 stars for the honesty, it's always good to have a heads up you might get named in a civil suit (divorce) and have to appear in court and explain to the good judge why we were bedding her hubby and how we all met, so yes you get props for the honesty. Among our vanilla friends which includes people we work with, family members, friends of friends etc. the number of swingers pales in comparison to the number of cheaters. If this group ever UNIONIZES we are in deep doody, they have the numbers in membership. Also, I think most of the non-married single men in the lifestyle would tell you being single can be a challenge without any "issues". You would also be far more welcomed in the union group (cheaters) and they would be more sympathetic to your needs as you would for their needs. This kind of "sharing" could even lead to a long term cheating relationship, I've never seen one last but you could be the first. If there's one theme that runs through profiles I'd say "NO DRAMA" is one of the top 5 on the countdown list. Your "unique" situation has the potential of bringing great drama to couples who just like getting naked with a few friends as an escape from everyday life. You have been on this site well over 2 years, that could mean you have had a lot of dirt blown in your face and you thought it was time to mount an ad campaign. My advice, look for the UNION LABEL.

upside down pineapple? - - [quote=SUENDAN]Greetings from your fellow 20+ yr. LS veterans. I think is a forced meme with more fuzz than action. But is relatively new, 4 yrs at most. You haven't missed anything. We would not approach anyone using an upside down pineapple because there are plenty of safer, foolproof ways to meet playbuddies. Also, what if I'm wearing a pineapple upside down at the mall and a single male approaches us about it? My pineapple will for sure go up his ass and then I'll lose it. As per urban dictionary, The pineapple represents hospitality and welcoming. A pineapple is placed on a porch or mail box by swingers to signify that a swinger party is going on. A pineapple is turned upside down when a person is in search of a swinger party. Originally it was turned up side down in the individuals shopping cart. But pineapple popularity has made it accepts on clothes and other items. Swingers use this symbol to identify each other in public. I'll stick to the good ol' internet or quality, single male free LS gatherings. There are plenty of those.[/quote] Well as a 30+ years as a LS enthusiast I think it’s just good old fashion fun. We have them in our RV just for a reaction. And the internet doesn’t seem to have a positive outcome as it did in the past.

Alex - New to the lifestyle looking for my first encounter into couples and single females - Utahldscouple / openmarriage - My mistake. I read two different responses and mistakenly attributed them both to openmarriage! The other was "don’t understand how single guys can be swingers". My bad.

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Okay but we're gonna put Heidi Hatch's name on the gift tag for the doggie sex doll. [em]Emo_12[/em]

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - Since I've been sucked into the swirling vortex of this thread, the only way I can feel like I haven't been robbed of the last 1/2 hr (give or take) of my life is to add my .02 Ok, I know I could just chalk it up to that which doesn't kill me only makes me stronger, but adding my input seems more satisfying. I'll start off by saying that if you are doing this much research regarding religions and what they allow or don't allow regarding sexual activity it has to make me wonder if you're seriously considering converting to another religion just to save yourself the guilt of sin brought upon by whatever religion you happen to be at the moment. All religions have been formed and molded over the years by people. People who are not perfect, who have their own agendas. A sense of right and wrong doesn't come solely from religion. Many religions would like you to think that in an attempt to keep you in their camp and they'll be more than happy to tell you what is right and wrong for the rest of your life (in case you can't think for yourself). But if you have to switch religions just so that you can sleep at night after a fun-filled evening of swinging, you have some other things to figure out. Or perhaps you should just start you're own religion, where you can make all the rules. In any case, I think its fairly safe to say that most religions believe quite strongly that those of us engaging in the swinging lifestyle are sinning by engaging in immoral activities, just cuz they don't use the actual word sin, doesn't mean anything. Its just more politically correct these days to say immoral. In any case though, they most certainly believe that we (swingers) will most definitely be going to a very special level of hell, a level reserved for... (sorry, narrowly avoided an obsure pop culture reference) As for me, yes I believe there is a God. And one of the few things that I think is accurately stated repeatedly in the bible is to love thy neighbor and I'm more than happy to spread the love around in whatever way/shape is available to me. -SG

New Yorker Shutting down - - [quote=summerlovin] Whatever. Enjoy your cesspool thread of bitching and moaning about Ross and the New Yorker. [/quote] World famous swingers here gracing us with their lovely words. Flying monkeys. We had several anonymous and fake accounts come after us both on FB and here when we brought up issues at the New Yorker. And heard they are still deleting and removing people for bringing anything up on the group about the article. [img]https://dfzses8qx79cf.cloudfront.net/C4cVIp1PtUVFA7LYirrZMi7MbOY=/780x0/smart/photos%2Fb%2FBACK4GOOD-211370515464e92f97b964c.jpg[/img]

Swingers gone bad?? - - TR, concise, astute and very well said. I don't believe any of us living in glass houses are chucking rocks. I'd like to think that the majority of us would want our 14-15 year old kids to discover their sexuality in a healthy, natural way. Remember playing doctor in gradeschool w/other gradeschoolers (not their parents!)? Love me, not my kids (or I'll kill ya!).

Swinging in Tokyo or Shanghai - - This might sound obvious, but look up Japan lifestyle, or swingers in a search engine....i'm sure there has to be a page or 2 in english...