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Family Swingular Members - OMFG and you do a search and see a close family member on the list..... - My boyfriend was checkin out who was online and came across my parents. It was both shocking and kinda expected as I knew my parents were swingers and have for quite awhile. I texted my Mother and asked if she thought sexual orientation could be genetic and needless to say we had quite the conversation after that lol.

Go turn on Oprah - re:swingers - It is 12:30 here in Utah and I can't find it coming up on any of my Satellite channels. Too bad we were really hoping to catch it.

Any swingers advise for Spain? - Swing clubs in Madrid - Advice? Yes. Stay away from anyone using those castanet things when your naughty bits are hanging out. Looks like a painful accident just waiting to happen. [em]Emo_8[/em]

How close is too close - - FITZNBELINDA Actually, swinging will very quickly bring out and magnify flaws in a relationship, even in good relationships. The difference is that a good relationship/marriage will use this info to increase the trust and communications and make that relationship stronger. You asked about swingers as compared to the general public... The divorce rate in the general public is between 66 and 77% depending on which figures you are looking at.. THis is both for 1st and 2nd marriages. Approx 70% of all married people, both male and females, in the general public, now will admit to extramarital affairs. Since extramarital sex is the essence of swinging that is not an issue but marriages in the swinging community are stable approximately 85% of the time or only 15% of swingers marriages fail... as compared with 75% failure in the general public... In other words non swingers are 340% more likely to get divorced than swigners... or 3.4 times as likely. Respect is one thing but sometimes Stuff just happens. We don't ask for it we are not open for it but still it still happens.... My love for others has no effect on my wife and my relationship.. She understand who I will be going home with and that I don't wish to cause others grief.. If people are honest with themselves as well as others and you respect people enough to understand what's going on and care about their feelings you just walk away before any damage is done...

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Morals are a set of rules we live by; some can be bent, some can be broken, right? It's that thing that allows people who are religiously devout to swing despite whatever teachings there are about such things; it's that "twist" in thinking that allows people to be bi- or homosexual and all despite what the majority has to say about it. It's all about what works for you within the framework of what society considers to be moral. There's right and wrong... but it's really about what's right and wrong for you, isn't it? And, really, if someone busting your ass about your "immoral" behavior, well, what skeletons do they have hiding in their closet, hmm? To that end, isn't it a matter of he who is without sin casting the first stone? I'm thinking there won't be a lot of people reaching for rocks... Rob

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - ULUV, Insecurity, fear, unwillingness, ignorance etc. I believe a true swinger or "Libertine" is one that exercise free thought and actions without regard to morals or a dogma. This means not only in sex, but all things. I strive to be openminded with everything, but no one is perfect. I, like everyone am at a level of openmindedness in my life and I am striving to achieve new levels of understanding everyday. Some of will remain, some of with regress, while some us will continue to advance our whole lives. Willingness to open up to new ideas and concepts helps. Hate will exist as long as ignorance does. Kinsey is among many scientists that have and do explore the realm of human sexuality. Many people don't try and take the time to better understand themselves. We are such egocentric creatures fundementally, that we often lose sight of reality through our own perception. That perception has ben clouded by propaganda, ignorance of fact and misinformation. I strive to better understand those around me, by coaxing them to interact with me here. Sometime, I admit, I manipulate them with controversial subject matter to "stir the pot", but it get shit moving and get's people talking and interacting. There in the combustion chamber, can we all see what's happening. We just have to do our best to take of the clouded goggles of our perceptions and open our minds to the sometimes harsh, sometime beautiful reality. I am still trying to get mind all the way off. -D- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Reports

Swing Clubs in Las Vegas - - We are going to be in Vegas the middle of November for 5 days. Staying at the Hard Rock or Planet Hollywood, haven't decided yet. Are there swing clubs there that you would recommend? Also this is our first time in Vegas, what are the "must do's"? Not the boring stuff you would find on tripadvisor, but the fun stuff that swingers/nudists would do ;))) Thanks!!

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - there arent as many new members for sure.....and it does seem that activity has dropped by a good bit....

Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=Mrnmrsb]Can people who have been to both flirts and playhouselv explain the differences, pros and cons, and such? Been to playhouselv and loved it. Debating flirts. Any help would be great![/quote]Simple. Flirts allows byob and provides mixers, playhouse alcohol is prohibited. Second, playhouse filters and screens it applicants where flirts allows most anyone. Playhouse is in a commercial building and flirts is in a residential building (very well designed layout for sexy fun, e.g. the glass wall play rooms above the DJ). Playhouse allows single males and flirts is couples and single females only. That is about it. [/quote] Playhouselv allows single guys on Fridays only. Saturdays are couples and single females

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - Mark it on the calendar, I agree with Tequila Rose!!LOL Tact is usually taught by our parents and environment, not geography. However.........(speaking of Southern Utahans) We live in a "Jack Mormon" area of the "south" people don't shove religious beliefs down our throat, different Mormons in different places (not trying to bag on Mormons, just a using them to make a point) 50 miles south, they are not as tolerant of us "Non-members" My point is this......TACT is something you have to WANT to learn and apply to your life, where you live usually only decides how far you can run your mouth before getting punched out, some people tolerate others better over different subjects, you might find more racism in a community that has a majority, the more mixed the culture, the more diverse, the less mixed, probably less diverse (that can be a matter of geography.) BTW, how did this topic take such a sour turn? from swinging seniors to tactless posts on the forum........UGH Anyway......back to the sex...... ~K~