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Tired of Politics and Religion! - - Let me reiterate what others and myself have said.. I also find it funny that people are "tired of reading about politics and religion", when they have the choice whether to read and/or participate in controversial topics. What I have noticed, to the contrary of the minority that complain about these subjects, is that there is far more participation (reading and or writing) with controversial subjects from the majority of this site. This includes the very people that complained. Shit, I mean they actually read the title of the thread, clicked on it, read through it and then take the time to post their judgment of everyone else participating, instead of taking that same opportunity to post in a sex thread or start another topic they deem acceptable for the website. I find a lot less of my friends participate in the forums and on the site all together, when all the forum subjects are sex oriented. Many people, as well as I, find this website to be dry and boring when the only topics in the forum are, "Hey Look at my wife's gaping cooter" or the 10,418, 231, 121st thread about how much some insecure married dude hates single males. This is a sex site and not a single male bashing site right??? HAHA! So instead of going in those threads and bitching and whining like a fucking baby, I create my own... See how that works? Anyway, It's interesting to see in any social group, that there is always someone that tries to limit the group to the boundaries they think acceptable for the entire group. Why are we trying to put conservative limits on a liberal lifestyle? I think boundaries should only be set in matters of legality, privacy and consent. What's interesting is that there are so many conservative swingers here, that would push their ideas of morality and within the rules of this website, try and stifle others freedom of expression and speech. Perhaps you few should quit the lifestyle and go to church. -D-

When does interest become pushy??? - - I've been thinking of this topic a lot since it first came out. I appreciate all of the comments made. EVILDOERS said, "Confidence is sexy", and I agree. I see a coupe of things here worthy of comment. First, in this game, women are totally in control. Sex is probably the strongest power position they have. All men want it, women control it. When they say no, or not interested, it's the end of the line for a man. HOW they say it is different. And how a man receives the rejection is different. Anybody who knows me social or professionally would never characterize me as shy. I'm outspoken and engaged most of the time. Because I've been rejected less than politely for advances in the swingers scene before, and after a lot of retrospection didn't deserve the rudeness of the rebukes, I'm a little more reserved, maybe even gun shy. The fact is, in this lifestyle, no matter how good you are, sooner or later you're going to get rejected. The person doing the rejecting may have had a bad day and be less than polite, but it also could be that you're not handling rejection well. Recently at a meet and greet I made an advance that seemed more than just welcomed, almost asked for, but was politely refused. I misread the signals, obviously. That happens to all of us at some time or another. The lady was polite in her refusal, and I think that's the key. I think at some time or another we all will give signals that welcome an advance, but do so in error. When an advance comes that we don't want we can reject it, but doing so politely is key. It's simple common courtesy. If the person making the advance persist, then something stronger may be necessary. Again, common courtesy would be to desist when told to do so. It's all about treating people with respect. We're in this lifestyle to be sexually connected with others. Advances are generally, but not always, welcome and expected. We need to be polite and respectful in both our advances and rejections, whichever side we're on. Mr. Sexperimentors

Do you Expect to get laid at Swinger Parties? - - We never expect to play...we just go to have a good time. If we meet a couple to swap with...thats jsut a bonus. We have a great club/group of swingers around here....only thing I can say is try places and if ones not right try another....and word of mouth is the best at finding the one that might be right for you....or group does a weekly online chat night and helps inform people that want to know about of group and what to expect there. Also they do a Meet and Greet at a local bar on certain weekends to let newbies get to know the regulars.

Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - SUMINDYFUN: To attempt to better answer your question, this is what we've experienced/learned in our poly-type relationships... This is so much more of a complex subject than just a quick "blurb", we like to compare it to guessing a 4 combination lock, you know at least 1 or 2 of the correct numbers... but do you really??? You find out an amazing amount about YOURSELF through this process! We have seen just about everything emerge, from complete unbelievable bliss to complete unbelievable hurt. However, what we've learned is TOTAL honesty, trust, respect, patience and absolute untethered communication are key! These things can either make or break it and breaking it earlier rather than later is a good thing, because if it breaks later then it usually means one or more people missed one or more of the fore-mentioned items and will cause much greater hurt because of all the time/work that was put in by the others. BTW, apparently the bliss is much more powerful than the hurt because we keep trying and trying for some reason? Yep, its like a drug and we're addicted! This is why we dont fault any one for not wanting to "step through that door" so to speak. We suggest to any one that they open that door very, very slowly and even walk away for a bit before entering fully. ABCMAN: You hit the nail directly on the head... from our experiences, social conditioning is extremely difficult for most people to overcome.

LVSTRIPPERBABE IS BACK!! I missed you guys!! Any swingers in Col - - indeed...welcome back!

Swinging in Utah - What makes A Pretty Great State a great place to swing? - So I could be totally wrong about why I think Utah is right up there (at least considering our relatively modest population) with many places that are much more...well let's just say cosmopolitan. Thought an informal little poll would be fun to get some feedback as to why others think the lifestyle scene is so active here in Zion. 1) It's all the warm sunny weather and sexy, sandy beaches. 2) Something in the water...other than fluoride. 3) It's rebellion from the influence from the LDS church. 4) A younger population equals more hormones and horniness. 5) The high alcohol beer makes us lose our inhibitions quicker. 6) Utah is no different than any other place as far as the number of swingers, etc.. 7) It's so cold here we have to swing to stay warm. 8) We're wired for swinging because of our ancestors and their polygamy. 9) We grew up reading Prayboy and Repenthouse so we're just bundles of hormones waiting to burst! 10) The churches missionary program teaches us to share the gospel so we're all just trying to share the swinging gospel with others. 11) Because green jello is a natural aphrodisiac. 12) Because we're all curious as to what REALLY goes on behind those "Zion Curtains". 13) Because hottubs remind us of those nice warm baptismal fonts. 14) We're jealous of the polygamists who can have hard core swing parties without ever leaving home (and they are never sausage fests!). 15) It's a mutant virus spread by brine fly bites. So, here's your chance to let everyone know why YOU think we're all a bunch of horny little carrot snappers. [em]Emo_12[/em]

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - Done...guilty!!!!

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Yes need Kik. Contact me after you get it

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - I have to agree. Unfortunately it is guys like that that make even just dating almost impossible for us "nice guys". It ruins it for men like me. Guys like that think they are such a gift. Far from it! Didn't your parents teach you clowns some Manners? On a lighter note, there are still some good classy people out there, not just for the "lifestyle", but in general socially. Keep the faith folks, you will find those good ones and want to keep them as long time friends and associates. Take care all and have a wonderful Independance Day!

Fly-fishing Swingers - New Swingular Group - ummmmmm... Garden Hackle girls! Luv em!